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phf: mircea_popescu: it's very spot on, it's like everything that happens is a neurotic mannerism, "of course that's what she would say, of course that's what he would do", all the props fit too. painful, because i'm not in argentina and these people are way too familiar

mircea_popescu: i guess in a sense that's what they're doing yeah

mircea_popescu: "i was merely following along with the crowd"

PeterL: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: i still can't fathom why bicycle is permitted but not horse. << horses leave piles of stinky shit lying everywhere, nobody wants their roads covered in shit

phf: well, i think in this case it's an attempt to throw sand, like "other early scholarly texts i read that you idiots didn't have wholly different words in there"

phf: (first line here http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=apis_inv;q1=6238;size=20;c=apis;subview=detail;resnum=3;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=apis;entryid=x-3555;viewid=6238_32.TIF)

phf: i.e opposition to power/leaders/nofuckingambiguityhere ... god's will opposes

phf: so i checked p46, and 13:1 is missing, but 13:2 follows the translation that you give

danielpbarron: right, I don't mind going back to original greek if that's what's actually being done

mircea_popescu: "oh wait... i don't want anyone to fuck me... so... how about holding hands ?"

phf: i checked out when he went into a very tedious explanation of what a turing machine is

phf: i didn't get that far :)

phf: his argument perhaps support what you're saying, because it's reduced to "i wrote this thing, and if you say this is therapy, then you are a waste of space"

phf: mircea_popescu: i can't argue the substance, but in weizenbaum's case he was saying therapy requires empathy, where's therapists were talking up eliza

danielpbarron: i burned my i ching books along with my yarrow stalks

BingoBoingo: hmmm. I guess making one could be third/fourth or fifth job

danielpbarron used to be into the I Ching

phf: oh i see

phf: if you are looking for the latter, than i ching, tarot layouts, markov chains trained on philosophical and religious texts

BingoBoingo: Well, technically I'm looking for a sponsor more than a therapist

phf: well, weizenbaum's point is that "real therapy" relies on empathy, rather than random feedback loop, which is more like divination/insight techniques i might add

phf: alf recommended it, but i haven't gotten through it yet

BingoBoingo: phf: I haven't read it, but I don't see anything wrong with the idea

danielpbarron: i used to have one that ran off supybot

danielpbarron: ah i misunderstood the query

BingoBoingo: phf: I looking for something that runs locally

BingoBoingo: That Tay character seems interesting, but I dun wanna run any microshit code or give it seekrits

BingoBoingo needs to find a new therapist. Emacs just hasn't been cutting it since I sobered up. Anyone know a better chatbot for this. Preferably one I can run in emacs?

mircea_popescu: teh frenchwoman : "ah, it was fabulous, the first day i was the wife of pierre and jean-luc was my secret lover and autre-pierre was my autre-secret lover and then next day stephen was my husband but he didn't know i was secretly married to lucien and also..."

mircea_popescu: teh english rose : "oh, had a lovely time, went for long walks on the beach..." "but what about the men ?" "oh, i did see some gentlemen, but we weren't introduced."

mircea_popescu: did i tell the joke with the various women in various countries ?

pete_dushenski: how could i not ?

pete_dushenski: now that Great Divestment is upon us, i am in fact considering ru bonds.

asciilifeform: i thought pete_dushenski was mega-l0ad3d

pete_dushenski: can't bring myself to calculate how [much] rich[er] i'd be at such rates.

mircea_popescu: i used to do the same thing, but meanwhile moved in a country where everyone pisses in the govt's face. (seriously, teh unions are actually putting up ads going "ganancia no es ingreso", ie, they don't have fucking income tax here)

pete_dushenski: i don't think my lavishly publicised expenditures on eizos and lexuses are going to help that effort.

mircea_popescu: lol. i c.

pete_dushenski: so i largely avoid expenses that i can't bill to a company in one manner or another.

pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: ah but you see, i'm cheep.

mircea_popescu: i thought you were a filthy kulak, what jerb.

pete_dushenski: cuz i'm not sure i can even keep up with the amount this bam-bam eats.

pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: costs 0! grows by self! << there was an amusing bit in 'what i learned losing a million dollars' about how feller bought 'investment horse' and spent boatloads on medical bills before thing... croaked.

shinohai: +mats i look forward to moar attack surface <<< keks

ben_vulpes: i thought systemd was modeled after windows

mats: i look forward to moar attack surface ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i'm arguing with a composite of people i don't know.

mircea_popescu: i'm not arguing with you!

ben_vulpes: hey i never said better

mircea_popescu: schmucky socialists, you know, always with their bs. "oh cars are bad because oil - bikes better" "horses even better!" "oh that's not fair because uses beast, bike uses your own ass". o i see how it is, the only thing they ACTUALLY hate is powerful people, as long as it results in a reduction of individual power they like anything it may be.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've often wondered if the final de-horsing of major cities happened at the magic moment when tetraethyl lead made the roadside flora deadly enough.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i still can't fathom why bicycle is permitted but not horse.

mircea_popescu: hey, don't take this the wrong way, i understand why there isn't one, which is why ~i~ haven't said anything about it.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm testing a very preliminary cstron.

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> subject of, why did mircea_popescu choose to stay on fleanode? << i chose nothing. i simply saw that teh republic chose to not make any usable susbitute yet, and so here we are. why do you ask ?

mircea_popescu: it means something about structures of meaning, and that's about all. it doesn't even insist you don't go "lalala i cant' hear".

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> afaict there is mircea_popescu's court, some dismally jolly sappers digging tunnels, and some people emptying bedpans in their finery << becauyse why, we're 5yos and the alternatives we perceive are either cartman's own "whatever, i do what i want" or otherwise "we live in a dictatorship!111" ?

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo> "She wanted the buoy," he recalled. "I said: 'There's been some damage done, due to the loss of days, and time,' and she said she's not authorized to relinquish any money. At that point, she said: 'Don't you know we're the US government?'" <<< bwahahaha

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i argued that giving equal haircut to (1) and (2) is a communist idiocy.

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: see if this rings a bell. there were two kinds of bettors on bbet. one that did not get double-paid. and one that 1) did 2) kept quite, kept the coin and possibly a 3) got double-paid, returned the coin. i am not aware of any (3) and kakobrekla stated that 3 was empty set.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i have nfi, ask him

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: if you don't care for the answer, i won't bother to try and convince you. i believe that we already had good thread about this in the old logz, with davout even (who is stuck with the actual surgery)

ben_vulpes: trinque: i'd expect at least a court and a forum

pete_dushenski: to the extent that i have an itch, and to the extent that commenter bro is outside of wot, sure

trinque: ben_vulpes: many things called themselves republic throughout history, but I don't see how there being a court precludes there being a republic.

asciilifeform: 17:26 <+ben_vulpes> tangentially relatedly, i've been trying to reconcile "designing a fork to heal the breach between miners and nodes" with "proceed from causes not towards purposes" << this is not a mega-conundrum.

ben_vulpes: tangentially relatedly, i've been trying to reconcile "designing a fork to heal the breach between miners and nodes" with "proceed from causes not towards purposes"

pete_dushenski: i tried !!

pete_dushenski: in other news, i managed to [absent-mindedly] get a 0txfee tx broadcast, and am now waiting to see if any miners are going to snap it up. doesn't look like there are many 0txfees being incorporated into blocks atm, so i'm not holding my breath on a quickee

BingoBoingo: "She wanted the buoy," he recalled. "I said: 'There's been some damage done, due to the loss of days, and time,' and she said she's not authorized to relinquish any money. At that point, she said: 'Don't you know we're the US government?'"

mircea_popescu: oddy i recall this piece.

ben_vulpes: http://i.imgur.com/lQxpEJk.png

phf: asciilifeform: there's a good kebab place in vienna which is a 30 minute drive for me, but i still make the trip from time to time, it's worth it. the food is OK, but the atmosphere is very "faux upscale tehran"

asciilifeform: somewhere in the 1,000,000,001 things-i-hate-about-usaschwitz is that it is a world with no past.

phf: haha, yes, it's there and it's exactly how i imagined it in person. very medieval christian soldier

mircea_popescu: i think i still have teh pictures somewhere.

asciilifeform: lulzy how we are having this thread just as i am about to walk into shit city and eat shit

mircea_popescu: i ended up hitting it 2x every time i was by, something else that place. tiny shop too, 100 feet of corner or such.

phf: in philadelphia you can buy into a cow share and get a bunch of excellent steak for i suppose once in a year feast

asciilifeform: i believe it.

mircea_popescu: i haven't really been following hence.

phf: but i've said that before, there are places in u.s. where food is good verging on excellent. there are couple of places in dc (pasta mia in adams morgan, temari in rockville) that have good food, but they are far and few

mircea_popescu: when i first left romania, "everyone" was pretty sure that ain't never happening. even had driver carry distraught damsel all the way to airport, 400 miles, and then carry her bawwing earthly coil back to cluj.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think you might have me mixed with TaT

phf: i'll keep that in mind

mircea_popescu: i hope to one day live to see alf unable to leave because love.

asciilifeform: phf: i utterly forget the name, but it is on dupont

asciilifeform: PeterL: aaaactually i can't move because wurk

asciilifeform: but generally i am not near it.

asciilifeform: phf: on occasion i go to this cellar in old dc where a buncha turks make ~actual ice cream.

asciilifeform: aha suuure i will drive 1000km to eat.

asciilifeform: but every so often i will eat it, because there is not another.

asciilifeform: i do not often eat ice cream, because it is made ~of dish detergent here.

mircea_popescu: i cringe still, the fucking nonsensical horror.

mircea_popescu: phf think on just one thing : i also train women to be human. oft they get a task to talk to random people. they NEVER get a fucking task to memorize and recite random strings.

mircea_popescu: ONE GUY survived. but i had 1k+ of the things, and god damned i used most.

phf: there was that "if i were an evil overlord thing i will and won't do" list, which ranted on that point

mircea_popescu: it did rock. i once won an attack by the fucking muttons with he.

mircea_popescu: i dunno if you ever played x-com interceptor, which was a splendid game

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, the original trope of 'fortress with many corridors going nowhere' has a root in history: anti-undermining tunnel systems from medieval times. largely undocumented (passed by word of mouth) and in some cases survived to 19th c., spawning the meme.