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BingoBoingo: <phf> 1,6k is for
a standalone, i'm sure rowhouses are cheaper. they have
a few standalones for sale, dc- "cheap" 600k or so << lol, divide by 3 or 4 for cheap here
mircea_popescu: but if i'm not, i'll never know. the situation where i'm friends to you, and you say hi to me in
a channel of 10`000 people i don't know ; and the situation where i'm friends with you and you say hi to me in
a pm are identical.
mircea_popescu: so if you want to say "hi" to 5 people, you say hi 5 times to one at
a time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is no such thing as "to X Y", gossipd being
a pairwise protocol.
mircea_popescu: no, just, you filter it out. if you want to hear what your friend
A says to B, must make B your friend.
phf: how do you deal with situation of in-wot
A talking to out-wot B?
mircea_popescu: if however you pick the whores you entertain carefully, it's empowering to
a degree uknown by nazi derps.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-16 14:43 mircea_popescu: and the (otherwise spurious) concept of "
a chan" reduces to "
a list of specified broadcast recipients".
mircea_popescu: electric stoves are ok ; but they better be gas-stove standard, not
a lulzy teapot warmer + microwave.
mircea_popescu: but these days... wtf is with the paper walls, and the attendant fire sprinklers and fire drills and whatnot ? you couldn't pay me to live in
a place with firesprinklers.
mircea_popescu: apparently this is
a permanent item, usg-born orcs forcibly integrated by usg, revert to the tribal arrangements that are adequate to their needs and capacities.
mircea_popescu: but, as with all things, nobody's going to bother putting in the effort for
a shitty apt.
mircea_popescu: even that, yes. this is
a whole profession, buying property managed into the dirt by idiots and making it shine. pays pretty well, too, most hands-on types end up doing that.
mircea_popescu: myeah. "longer life expectancy" turns out to be
a horrible idea.
mircea_popescu: there's also
a large one discussing with some guy his idea of bootstrapping on
a shoestring
a landlord governing body, because he's
a 20yo brogrammer and that's how governance works in his mind.
a111: Logged on 2015-12-07 23:34 mircea_popescu: and if you want actual numbers, i just got
a coupla girlies an apt. the sale value would have been i guess 160-170k or so. the monthly rent is 750. the first month, the washing machine went, and the owner replaced it. the next month, ac went (brother was that an incredible pos job wow), owner replaced it. so far owner's been making 0 from his property.
mircea_popescu: that if i don't say "obama is
a whore's dog" over ssh, aws can't produce
a correctly signed token for "mp said obama is
a whore's dog" over ssh.
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, amazon has buried the ingestion point for ssh pubkeys in
a truly obscure corner of their systems
mircea_popescu: to bobbeck, to attach
a subservient aparatchick to the sort of entreprise lords might have either heard of or outright respect, so as to puppet it along the nazi cause.
mircea_popescu: i subscribe to "the end is nigh" theory, the usg dept of berkshire convened the rich kids for
a visit over with obama and they all agreed to donate moar money to the nazi party.
danielpbarron: idk i'm kinda of the opinion that if i'm gonna have coffee at
a place, it should be served into
a ceramic mug by
a waitress and come with free refills
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: there's nothing wrong with
a well-used airpot in theory, but it does require dumping the remains every ~10 minutes for
a fresh pot. yes, this means that low-volume shops cannot serve good coffee from an airpot, but since when has that stopped anyone.
phf: 1,6k is for
a standalone, i'm sure rowhouses are cheaper. they have
a few standalones for sale, dc- "cheap" 600k or so
danielpbarron: speaking of which I've resolved to stop eating at
a local cafe/brunch place because half the time they can't be arsed to use the espresso machine, sometimes claiming that it's 'broken'
mircea_popescu: the fact that you can't find
a decent cofee house at north pole does not signify you should give up the cappuccino habit.
mircea_popescu: if you have that money, you find
a partner and start
a real estate corp, and go rent yourself
a house.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck BUYS oceanfront property for instance. other than
a hedge fund / the miami mahjongg club
mircea_popescu: you have nfi what pile of people all over think "like in america" is
a superlative.
mircea_popescu: hey, that's their problem. you're there on business, gotta have the pics to make
a call.
mircea_popescu: you gotta plox take pix and make
a blogpost of this once.
mircea_popescu: and the (otherwise spurious) concept of "
a chan" reduces to "
a list of specified broadcast recipients".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: at which point u1 can verify that HE didn't get the A5 or the A9. And he couldn't care less that it's
a "network problem" or intentional withholding, much like MPEx doesn't gas what proxies do or don't do on the way.
mircea_popescu: and in the relationship u1-u2 G is "Hai u2 howru" and then A1(G) is "fine ty.", and A5(G) is "urmom's
a ho!" and A9(G) is "lol j/k",
mircea_popescu: similarily, the ACTUAL order of message, and the presence or absence of "j/k" messages in there can
a) never be established beyond reasonable doubt and b) can only be usefully guessed by people. which is to say, well connected, intelligent nodes.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: as
a side-effect, the ability to extract political time out of this arrangement reduces to being well connected to well connected nodes that are connected to well connected nodes etc.
mircea_popescu: and if in THAT conversation it uses C(B1(A1)) to transmit {
A(G1) ;
A(G3) ; B(A3(G3)) ; B(A8(G1)) ; B(A5(G3))} then that's that.
mircea_popescu: could have
a binary or decimal scheme where 3 * 2^1 + 5 is compared with 1 * 2 ^ 1 + 8
mircea_popescu: could have hard-lowest-level-first sortage, so it goes before
A(G3) because it's off G1.
mircea_popescu: this, i believe, should be
a setting exposed to the user. wherever the fuck he wants it to be sorted.
mircea_popescu: if at this point
a B(A8(G1)) should show up, it should be sorted somewhere in the list. but where ?
mircea_popescu: once B(A3(G3)) shows up, it goes obviously before B(A5(G3)), so the list is now {
A(G1) ;
A(G3) ; B(A3(G3)) ; B(A5(G3))}
mircea_popescu: message
A (G3) shows up, if no
A(G1) or
A(G2) is present, it goes in first. if
A(G1) shows up later, it goes before
A(G3). which means the list gets reordered.
mircea_popescu: so : the genesis message, ie, the first communication between
a pair (gossipd is
a pairwise comms mechanism) includes 10 keys.
mircea_popescu: (this being
a problem first encountered by monks with books)
mircea_popescu: if later i get
a message with key 1, i put it before the 3rd key one.
mircea_popescu: then if i get
a message with 3rd key and none with 1 or 2, i put it first
mircea_popescu: note that there's no hard limit here. suppose, and again, this is just
a blackboard mock-up, not
a technical implementation :
mircea_popescu: anyway. nothing wrong with that split. i guess eventually "Sane irc client" will be
a project.
mircea_popescu: one of these days i should get
a client that's not retarded enough to split urls.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't ever speak to the PRINCIPLE of the cellar, however. it's always
a discussion of the circumstances of the house.
mircea_popescu: yet some general considerations are possible. like, if the house's in
a swamp, safe bet it has none. stuff like that.
davout: this guy has it: "Just start
a new one. Call yourselves "the official foundation", register
a domain and go."
BingoBoingo: Anyways once you find their holes pour
a bit of gasoline down there and then plug the hole with dirt.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-16 01:43 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> we even have something called
a 'ground wasp' here << easy to get rid of
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Errored out on loading, but basically they closed the DAOscam bet early with
a refund.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> we even have something called
a 'ground wasp' here << easy to get rid of
☟︎ mircea_popescu: you don't argue uphill with
a dumbass. you just smack him now and again.
mircea_popescu: point's been made, let em stew in denial now for
a little bit, we come back to it later.
mircea_popescu: not that much of
a priority. let them read the logs, what.
mod6: im ciked that phuctor is crushing keys while i sleep, ride the train, eat
a sandwich
mod6: if anyone has some interesting in working on
a CI project with ole mod6, lemme know. it'll take some doing, but it could be pretty worthwhile.
mod6: <+shinohai> just as
a backup at least cuz i love t so much << ok no worries then, just wanna ensure we're not duplicating work and what not.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 14:43 asciilifeform: they ~will~ have one. it is, to use mircea_popescutronic terminology, simply
a question of how thick the spiked club they will be raped with until submitting.