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mircea_popescu: i have nfi why anyone would EVEN COSNIDER doing anything with a usg agent
mircea_popescu: also why the fuck does he even have mips on that list, i thought they had their own bs.
asciilifeform: i looked far and wide, even turned up, e.g., that renesas still manufactures the super-H (sega!)
asciilifeform: back to thread, briefly, i regularly survey the market for cpu-that-could-bitcoinate
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: After I finish latest piece in que digesting email
asciilifeform: briefly back to thread, every other month or so i do an exhaustive survey of commercially-available cpu
asciilifeform: no, where do i get 'full source for x86'
asciilifeform: but ftr i discussed the intel and amd 'palladium' engines in detail in the old logz.
asciilifeform: i have this machine, sweated over it for ages, no useful result.
mircea_popescu: shinohai> I see there is no way shinohai can just donate the shares back to qntra and forget about it all. << you can prolly instruct jurov to sell them and donate proceeds to foundation say.
PeterL: and I don't think the liabilites add up right?
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/OuxUtC3.jpg
BingoBoingo: PeterL: That's what I'm suggesting too, but I'm suggesting he makes a bigger pile to do it with
shinohai: I see there is no way shinohai can just donate the shares back to qntra and forget about it all.
shinohai: Certainly not, I find great joy in reading but writing may as well be Chinese water torture for me.
shinohai: BingoBoingo: << Pile more qntra shares on top of them? <<< since I suck at writing, I don't see that happening.
mats: i'll wear my sunday best and see how it goes
mircea_popescu: i guess he must!
asciilifeform: i dun even have a dog or cat.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and guess what i do here at rupture farmz!
mircea_popescu: i'm all for "20 years ago", but they're fucking idiots.
mircea_popescu: i am convinced it is the best we can do, as far as the human element goes.
phf: given the state of things, i'm not convinced that hawala is the worst we can do ☟︎
asciilifeform: and at this point i don't much care what burns, for it to come back.
phf: i.e. symbolics ada
asciilifeform: (incidentally this is an actual thing, and a decade ago i actually thought that i invented it, but then learned that it was cristina cifuentes's thesis)
asciilifeform: that is, if i want to run it on an arch that gets auto-genned on my fpga every morning, i oughta be able to.
asciilifeform: i actually REMOVED the asm optimizations from my fork of gmp, for instance.
phf: i'm just anticipating the next tmsr language
asciilifeform: if this were available somewhere else, i would look into the somewhere else.
asciilifeform: 90% of why i like ada is that it 'compiles like c' (i.e. without massive runtime or bytecode claptrap in place of ida-able binary) WHILE having bounds-checked array accesses etc.
asciilifeform: (i can't fathom ~why~ you would, but yes, you can)
asciilifeform: folks who have been experimenting with gnat prolly already realized this. but i am leaving it here for n00bz.
asciilifeform: the reason i asked was that i noticed that ada links just fine with cpp crud, both having been shat out of ordinary gcc
mircea_popescu: truth be told our diligent efforts over the years - and by our i mean mostly not mine - exposed so many hooks for fixing and improving it's not even funny.
asciilifeform: aha this is what i thought.
asciilifeform: i regard it as a mircea_popescutronic question.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu i had a notion: if we're no longer holding the 'father's pistols' line, is there any good reason not to replace openssl in trb with, e.g., ada bignum ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have not forgotten the broadcast! it will appear tonight.
danielpbarron: yep, I did
danielpbarron: trinque, i did gettrust PeterL and gettrust jurov in private to make him leave the 2nd time
trinque: PeterL's problem was that the thing's caps sensitive; I'm going to fix that today
danielpbarron: I don't claim to or care to study all religion, except to say that I will often look into those claiming to believe the Bible for the purpose of exposing false teachings to whoever showed it to me
danielpbarron: at a quick glance, I see cathars believed the old testament God was a different God than the one in the new testament
mircea_popescu: PeterL no, i am saying that opposition to myself has ~0 chances to come from the sort of mind that ignores half of what happens.
PeterL: <mircea_popescu> what did your evaluator make of that line ? "i suppose i could be my own judas, bla bla" ? << well, yes, sometimes I just skim over half your statements
mircea_popescu: you seem to think it's an isolated and meaningless incident. i'm willing to bet it's both systematic and fundamental, moreso than any positive principle you might identify on deliberate survey.
PeterL: somehow I glazed over the whole second half of your sentence, I don't understand what cathars have to do with Judas?
PeterL: oh, now I see it
mircea_popescu: what did your evaluator make of that line ? "i suppose i could be my own judas, bla bla" ?
mircea_popescu: "<mircea_popescu> i suppose i could be my own judas, in a strange sort of kathar approach to it."
PeterL: now I feel lost, where did we see cathars that I ignored?
mircea_popescu: i guess.
PeterL: yes, but I can dream!
PeterL: I figure retirement is when you get to do whatever you want
mircea_popescu: i dun particularly wish to be rewarded!
mircea_popescu: well i dunno how much the xtian plagiarists understood of the thing they were trying to steal&rename, but
mircea_popescu: i suppose i could be my own judas, in a strange sort of kathar approach to it.
mircea_popescu: and wouldn;t you know it, no nsa report. hey asciilifeform how is it that BingoBoingo hanbot jurov etc all manage to do their reports in time and you i always have to remind ?
mircea_popescu: agorecki> how would mp shoot down a blockchain protocol change? I've never seen him post on the bitcoin dev mailing list <<<< ahahaha what the fuck is this now.
danielpbarron: trinque, ^ I killed the bot somehow
asciilifeform: ftr i will not be raising my max bid. if anyone wants the thing, they can bit 9 + epsilon.
davout: danielpbarron: i'll give more details later, working on bitbet for now
agorecki: no. I'm a prisoner of the illuminati... I'm afraid I missed that event...
agorecki: if miners were using his client is what I was meaning. don't know how hard it would be to get bit coin companies to use his software
ben_vulpes: i wanted to see his brain melt when you linked him to the foundation, ml etc
agorecki: how would mp shoot down a blockchain protocol change? I've never seen him post on the bitcoin dev mailing list
phf: ben_vulpes: i'm not, that might be the problem
ben_vulpes: it's a half-decent bug report i think
danielpbarron: heh i was curious if space was acting as a command character
phf: ben_vulpes: i don't mean it in a sense of clarify your sloppy thinking, i mean it in a sense of i have no idea what you talking about
phf: it doesn't, unless i'm missing something
ben_vulpes: i've yet to determine if ndos survives serialization
ben_vulpes: but i do mean cblock specifically, and in the context of producing hashes.
ben_vulpes: in other completely unrelated news, i went out to what passes for wine country here to refresh the office cellars. found some delicious bottles for not absurd prices, lovely people, etc. but! stunner to me at least:
trinque: davout: I figgered it out. it was pissed about whitespace at end
danielpbarron: i think it was probably a genocide (as opposed to a war or however the turks spin it) but that's probably more humiliating a stance for the armenians to take
asciilifeform: as i understand, the ones to be clobbered were the ~most~ turk-integrated
danielpbarron: i'm not bitter about it; seems to me those that survived are better off for it
danielpbarron: heh i guess
phf: i'm vaguely disappointed that chinese didn't preserve tibet as a kind of natural habitat, but had to go civilizing the place
mircea_popescu: to celebrate, ima share that i saw kundun, and it's fucking stupid.
mircea_popescu: tbh i really liked the old log css.
phf: hmm, almost, maybe 2 more hours of work. deployable, but i want log collector to stand on its own, rather than rely on znc before i deploy
mircea_popescu: lol. asciilifeform is learning phf'sproblem-solving algo i see!!!
asciilifeform: i've been using his log for dayz - http://glyf.org/h/t-a
asciilifeform: phf is learning mircea_popescu's problem-solving algo i see! l0l
asciilifeform: (i have shit gnat on crapple also, it is not hard)
phf: fwiw i have working gnat on os x
phf: i'm having a hard time deciding if i should just keep using 10.9 until it's fully deprecated by unix userspace even, or switch asap
phf: i suppose it's one of those cases where one is good at what one knows
asciilifeform: still more usable than crapple, where i was unable - despite many weeks of sweat - to get very very basic things running (e.g., a locally-built gnat, or a mips-gcc toolchain)
asciilifeform: phf: i never managed it. but you ~can~ run it on a box without dbus, it appears.
asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/cZlRWor << what i had lying round
asciilifeform: or possibly one of my old colleagues did, i left a bunch of those roms and my microscope with them
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes> and for asciilifeform: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3834/19305969764_42490e7635_o.jpg << i think i posted that
ben_vulpes: http://i.imgur.com/6B1syOO.jpg
davout: it answers that way when i feed it the decrypted otp back
davout: which i fail to compute
davout: i get "deedbot hands you a broomstick."