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mircea_popescu: and in other diana_coman lulz, asciilifeform now thinks somebody wants to "convert" him. hey you! you didn't fucking leave, ~you got kicked out~. for being a moron. part and parcel of the very substance of that being a moron is your utterly ridiculous relationship to reality. stop tryina fucking retcon the past into something more amenable to your howling idiocy.
mircea_popescu: but no, i don't expect you to do all that by yourself. ~TALK~ to people why the hell won't you ?!
mircea_popescu: not that i wouldn't like a static lamp stack ; but why go on solitary missions with this kinda thing ? it just makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: i confess it's the most boggling aspect to me at the moment, whence this tendency to mentally compartimentalize the republic. if it's a shitty influence, why bother with it. and if it isn't a shitty influence, as it damn well isn't, then why not USE it for all it's worth.
mircea_popescu: what i don't understand, though, is... why not talk about it ?
hanbot: ahahaha commit colors indeed. kinda interesting that "claim disused public platform" still occurs first, over "make own", even in meatspace. "it's not worth making my own thing for this half-hearted non-message" "so stfu" "can't, i'm an activist"
mircea_popescu: it's a social game, some old bitty bidding three clubs at her bridge club isn't treasonable thereby
mircea_popescu: anon rando tortard's both very abundant and systematically inconsequential, dunno how to best put this... there's nine million cul-de-sac suburban teenager cliques "taking over the world" during that summer before end of schooling and first full time job. it doesn't DO anything.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1950067 <-- I'd really like to contribute to that, the only reason I didn't do it thus far being that there was always a pile of other shit to do
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1949938 <-- can't say yet whether that'd take 1.5 or 3 months, but... it was my understanding that http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947274 is a pretty important item. either way, as I've said before, that plan ain't set in stone, any suggestions/guidance on priorities is more than welcome. I [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#
lobbes: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950221 << I don't mind setting out to do so, but I also don't want to delay the bot's deployment (I have found that I am quite slow and inexperienced still). Would you want this patch before deployment?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-08 02:45:51 mircea_popescu: i guess i didn't make myself very clear. the ~displayer~, python-based as opposed to apache based, has no future.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-08#1950213 << aa okay. For whatever reason I didn't take your meaning, but now I get it.
mircea_popescu: i guess i didn't make myself very clear. the ~displayer~, python-based as opposed to apache based, has no future.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 10:03:46 mircea_popescu: i don't foresee any future for the current python-powered item.
lobbes: on second thought, I guess redundancy doesn't necessarily follow from "more convenient to run a logger". Okay, I restate my second merit to simply be: "convenience" (for what that is worth)
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 10:03:46 mircea_popescu: i don't foresee any future for the current python-powered item.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 12:43:55 hanbot: mircea_popescu i browse, but haven't strictly "kept up". i can spend a day or two getting there tho', what's up?
BingoBoingo: Pacific coast has Lima, Santiago, and other second and their tier targets. Asian side of Pacific I'm not particularly interested, prioritizing on the level of western european shitholes that don't speak Spanish.
BingoBoingo: Especially if they can't shoot the lesser theives for Oslo larp reasons.
mircea_popescu: really hard to run a 40 thieves' cave where the lesser theives don't steal anything
mircea_popescu: and if i do that, i'd better do it before i publish later logs on trilema, so the guids aren't in three waters.
mircea_popescu: there he sat, the fuckhead, FOR YEARS, "oh, one day will mp-wp, hurr durr". one day, rite. then, when push came to shove, DID NOT KNOW what didn't know. because hadn't done. because etcetera.
mircea_popescu: i don't foresee any future for the current python-powered item.
diana_coman: I am maintaining the logger and I intend to maintain it but any further development can happen only when I get some pages finally up to speed to help as I really don't have currently ~any time left to sink in that.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: re-reading the discussion yesterday it occured to me that the loggers & irc weren't mentioned at all
diana_coman: I might take you on the offer there for my blog if I don't manage to scare up something locally; I have currently some guys next door that I want to talk to, they seem to be at least talkable-tio
mircea_popescu: not that i blame the pm, there wasn't one. but the fundamental reason why "adding more manpower to a late project only makes it later" is that lots and lots of "manpower" is actually -ev.
lobbes: However, after that I wouldn't mind the idea of 'apprenticing' under trinque on cuntoo related things. I could use the education to be honest, and I know he needs hands
mircea_popescu: anyways, eventually we'll get a troop out of new kids ready and able to actually do useful & meaningful shit in computer science, and whatever, the failure of one particular generation won't look that much more remarkable than the string it's part of.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, you're in absolutely no position to do any of this wtf. aren't you supposed to first find yourself a job ?
BingoBoingo: trinque: If I do get a Cuntoo running this weekend, you can expect me to submit Cuntoo-ified versions of my desktop work tools at the speed I port them. Everything I depend on seems to have already been ported to musl based linux distributions. I can't promise doing this fast, but it can be something that would help make a noob-cuntoo image down the line.
mircea_popescu: i can see baking it on protocuntoo ; with a view to moving it to cuntoo, ~if cuntoo is a thing~. if it isn't... no view.
mircea_popescu: as a factual matter, stock'll have to be taken, we can't just pretend lalala and keep sending people to do impossible things.
mircea_popescu: trinque, i absolutely don't want you to pretend to be 20.
trinque: and you have fewer men than you'd like, and I'm not going to pretend to be 20, and then cry when I fail at it. that's why I said I'm looking at kernel + busybox for my own stack. even it isn't human-sized, but it's about two orders of magnitude less twine and shit than "standard linux distro"
mircea_popescu: i don't think you are, no.
mircea_popescu: which is actually what i'll do, i don't perceive the value of waiting on products while people get their shit in order.
mircea_popescu: if you don't want to do so, my options are either to try and promote someone else, or else drop the whole pretense and simply use the latest whatever the fuck it is.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 21:18:49 trinque: I don't think it'd be wise at all to try to own something with 900mb of dependency source.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 21:00:07 billymg: at the moment i don't have the necessary time to be fully involved so for now i'm just happy to see diana_coman and her pages chipping away at it. but i'm very much looking forward to getting back into it once i've successfully jumped the fence
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 21:00:07 billymg: at the moment i don't have the necessary time to be fully involved so for now i'm just happy to see diana_coman and her pages chipping away at it. but i'm very much looking forward to getting back into it once i've successfully jumped the fence
trinque: unless you actually want the thing. I don't need the coin.
trinque: nah man, I don't want you to do that.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Shipping FUCKGOATS won't be anywhere near as awful in pricing as 1U servers.
trinque: BingoBoingo: as for liquidating my stuff, I wouldn't mind getting a FG or two out of the deal if it can be swung
trinque: do you recall if I ever bought a FG from you gents? iirc one wouldn't fit in my chassis, and I forget where we landed.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Are you still inclined to completely write of your server and FUCKGOATS, or do you want me to try to recover some value from it for you and get you a pair of FUCKGOATS. I don't need an answer immediately, but would prefer one by Monday.
trinque: I don't think it'd be wise at all to try to own something with 900mb of dependency source.
trinque: I don't think it should be considered anything more than a liferaft
billymg: at the moment i don't have the necessary time to be fully involved so for now i'm just happy to see diana_coman and her pages chipping away at it. but i'm very much looking forward to getting back into it once i've successfully jumped the fence
BingoBoingo: I've made it clear to the lawyers I rather don't expect they are solvent enough to collect anything when I win a suit. I'm more inclined to pass a bulletproof fraud denuncia to the Fiscalia and let them sort it out.
BingoBoingo: Also their lawyer now isn't their lawyer I apparently mean with
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, not that she shouldn' t be in there or anything ; but there's #hanbot, might as well make two of these seeing how yours seems to work
hanbot: mircea_popescu i browse, but haven't strictly "kept up". i can spend a day or two getting there tho', what's up?
diana_coman: (the dev server can run but won't do anything for current client)
diana_coman: I don't use that init command but at any rate, it's fine as far as I looked at it first pass
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: this is added on my tree, I didn't yet get to sign it
ossabot: Logged on 2019-07-21 08:57:32 diana_coman: hm, current vtools still don't handle move of files or what am I missing here? I made a simple test with moving one file to a different location and as far as I can see, it's still delete + create, no move
diana_coman: granted, this is relatively small snag for S.MG, not like eulora can't go on without it but it's annoying esp because of this "seems to have been done"
diana_coman: tbh (and possibly outside S.MG's direct scope) I don't get exactly why don't we have already a command line replacement to gpg, ugh
mircea_popescu: why can't it just use the client key ?
mircea_popescu: don't bother, i remember.
mircea_popescu: people don't like it, people come here ask how to help like good doobies, thing's fixed in no time. otherwise people are more then welcome to go fuck their ugly mothers / cluck on facebook until they fall over.
diana_coman: there would be perhaps some bits like movement calculation but there is no possible reason I can see for that to pull in the whole cs or something ffs; ie it can be done separately, why wouldn't it.
diana_coman: to answer your q as stated: I can move it but it will take a lot of effort and time (atm I don't have a clear estimate for it but I doubt it's less than a month given all deps)
mircea_popescu: so even if we had hardware you couldn't bring one up ? what was the "testing" in re http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945429 ?!
diana_coman: not like s.mg hasn't provided service to the republic so far otherwise.
mircea_popescu: this is a fact, and i ain't choosing a while calling this republic.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I can add detail if/where needed but atm I don't have something I see to add there.
diana_coman: he can't complain he didn't get feedback :D
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as scientist "by himself". contrary to whatever mistaken notions poor schooling, science is a purely rational process ; the incommunicably stubborn self-directed bullshit ain't science ~except by accident~. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: English isn't a consistent enough language for me to want to save the noun "post" on blogs through comparison to other English language constructions.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-05-24 02:56:37 mircea_popescu: what do you find scarier, a mouth open so wide you can see the teeth, or a mouth open so wide you can't even see the teeth ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-05 10:10:53 PeterL: But I wouldn't call a picture of my cat an article, even if it is a blog post.
mircea_popescu: the funny thing is i thought there was a chan in that vein registered already. wasn't there ?!
PeterL: But I wouldn't call a picture of my cat an article, even if it is a blog post.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-11-05 08:41:55 mp_en_viaje: peterl & all : would you mind terribly if you referred to your articles, on your blogs, as articles ? it's what they are, i get it, you post them, but calling them "posts" makes about as much sense as calling cars "a drived" and girls "a fucked". you don't go about bars with a "hey, fucked! wanna do shots ?", do you ?
spyked: hm. also, it's possible it might have missed some when I purged the notification queue following the spam this weekend. lemme know if they still don't get delivered when you go online using mircea_popescu
diana_coman: yes, but "post" there for all its similarity to "to post to the blog" is just as made up, as far as I can see; a blog post, as there is a newspaper article, dunno; and in the vein of "just as much to do with what they are doing otherwise", wouldn't that hold for articles too?
mp_en_viaje: dude doesn't understand why software development ~couldn't~ be done in the past, which'd be the only point making a discussion of v worthwhile in the fist place.
mp_en_viaje: things haven't changed because "the present" meanwhile turned into "in the past" through the unyielding workings of jesus' birth ever distancing itself from us at the rate of 1 year each easter.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-05 04:46:58 mp_en_viaje: peterl & all : would you mind terribly if you referred to your articles, on your blogs, as articles ? it's what they are, i get it, you post them, but calling them "posts" makes about as much sense as calling cars "a drived" and girls "a fucked". you don't go about bars with a "hey, fucked! wanna do shots ?", do you ?
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-05#1949532 - technically it was "a blog post"; going for correctness there, I would even question wtf is "blog" anyway, since I get it, binary log except I don't write in binary, what.
mp_en_viaje: while lyrical is a story of women -- which is why it doesn't USE NAMES.
mp_en_viaje: spyked, i wouldn't say "romanians" did it. piulitia did it, the sort of retarded wanna-be bureaucrat goat. "extorsiunea unui degajament", exactly.
mp_en_viaje: peterl & all : would you mind terribly if you referred to your articles, on your blogs, as articles ? it's what they are, i get it, you post them, but calling them "posts" makes about as much sense as calling cars "a drived" and girls "a fucked". you don't go about bars with a "hey, fucked! wanna do shots ?", do you ?
bvt: i didn't think any special activity was urgently required from me, and the blogpost with my comments on the matter will come a bit later; i can see re weak sample
mp_en_viaje: in the terminology of turns, people who don't get their turn are more likely to also not do anything to fix it. so i'm tryin to make a point of it.
mp_en_viaje: like, plainly : people who do a lot but don't talk a lot may be not talking a lot because they don't need to ; but may also not be talking for extraneous reasons, even though they do need to. it's impossible to dsicern which of the two is taking place from the other end, specifically because low volume = weak sample = no basis to guess.
mp_en_viaje: i don't think it's a pressing matter ; i'll certainly read it.
nicoleci: mp_en_viaje, oh yes you're missing out....you should see that thing! asciilifeform couldn't convincingly larp an isp, & is now going to larp - the whole orchestra instead
mp_en_viaje: wouldn't it be more towards this side of sanity river to actually be doing shit to crawl out of whatever bowl of soup, perhaps documenting them / working with the people specializing in helpong etc ?
mp_en_viaje: mod6, that's a rather weird way to think about it, don't you find ? wtf am i, the man-eating ogre ? and wtf are you, princess rapunzel, asleeep in a castle, waiting for prince to come wake you up with a kiss / eat your babies, at his options ?
mats: i'm embarassed, and i haven't played the game in a decade
diana_coman: so uhm, don't do that?
diana_coman: there are also exercises and all that but honestly if that's bad I can't consider the keyboard+mouse "fine"
mod6: mp_en_viaje: Thank you for the response. I don't plan on doing anything to get neg-rated. Just having been in the soup, as it were, for some time. Figured, my turn is coming. But I hope I'm wrong about that.
diana_coman: I don't actually know mats' age.
mp_en_viaje: mod6, i'm sorry, i don't have the time/patience to follow alf dramaz. re being negrated and mpex function, in general : i've always to date sent people their shit ~before~ negrating them, because indeed the substantive meaning of my negrating you is that you can't use any of mine / my friends' shit anymore. this hasn't prevented the occasional asshole from making the occasional false claims, which situation hasn't much int