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assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1500 @ 0.0002151 = 0.3227 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 41859 @ 0.0002085 = 8.7276 BTC [-] {18}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 120741 @ 0.0002 = 24.1482 BTC [-] {6}
dexX7: howard wang, the former dev of labcoin has spoken ... http://pastebin.com/rQfbUA8d
pankkake: raise 7500 BTC, hire random dude on oDesk
BigBitz: LOL
BigBitz: yeah.
BigBitz: insane
dexX7: read further
dexX7: it's even worse
pankkake: they don't pay the guy :o
mircea_popescu: lol.
mircea_popescu: the flaming globes sigmund! it is just as you have prophesized!
mircea_popescu: TheSeven http://pastebin.com/rQfbUA8d you got a comment ?
pankkake: I had to google that, I forgot about Flaming Globes of Sigmund
pankkake: I wish Rochelle, Rochelle existed
kakobrekla: odesk is 99.5% indians and losers at same time
kakobrekla: the .5 is just indian or just loser
pankkake: I don't know odesk specifically, but most similar websites are like that
mircea_popescu: well what are they gonna do.
knotwork: hmm what is this AVAtrade whose ad I just saw on facebook? A onventional forex site now including bitcoin?
mircea_popescu: "And, it happened that we have access on some 130nm library, so she decided to continue with this library."
mircea_popescu: "we stole some more software".
mircea_popescu: which reminds me, haven't heard of the bitfinex thing in a while.
pankkake: raise 7500 BTC, be a cheap ass and don't pay for anything
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1633 @ 0.00019993 = 0.3265 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: it just goes to further show exactly what forum fuckwits are worth
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10112 @ 0.00018719 = 1.8929 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu: comes out of nowhere, "we" and "our company", all "professional" and whatnot...
mircea_popescu: hasn't seen a whole bitcoin in his life.
dexX7: well, they have a history going back to q3 2012 on the forums
pankkake: hehe, the "we" always make me lol
mircea_popescu: dexX7 theswede was registered in march.
pankkake: I should speak on behalf of Pankkake Industries Corporation Limited
mircea_popescu: what history ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 25150 @ 0.00018393 = 4.6258 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: pankkake what's wrong with kramerica ?
pankkake: theswede is just random pr guy - those are old time scammers
pankkake: some italians
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: i wonder what rosenfeld is doing these days.
dexX7: rosenfeld = the bdt guy?
pankkake: hm, yeah my next company will be Vandelay Industries
mircea_popescu: dexX7 meni rosenfeld, the foil for the bdt scam, but much older history.
mircea_popescu: he created a fake "short" asset for pirate, he has a long history of trying to be the "respectable" part of various scams.
dexX7: yeah, i saw some posts of him when i did a quick search for alberto
mircea_popescu: tho after his utter failure to rehabilitate that nick with his "vanity thread" etc i suppose it's not surprising he just let it drop.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.0074996 = 0.375 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: Sep 30 22:27:12 <zhenhua_wang>once again we advise all investors to buy shares while they are cheap, We are confident in fact that the price will raise tenfold in respect to IPO
mircea_popescu: Sep 30 22:34:00 <zhenhua_wang>mircea_popescu: you are simple minded. sorry but your are a psychopathic
mircea_popescu: ahh the good old days of last week!
dexX7: wtf
dexX7: is this from the log?
mircea_popescu: yeah.
dexX7: that was just a faker
dexX7: the original quote is from labcoin made on the forum
mircea_popescu: no, he came here because i went over on their chan for lolz.
pankkake: sure, but it was a troll
pankkake: quoting real things labcoin said though
dexX7: zhenhua_wang = the guy who wrote the message which is on pastebin. he never was here on irc.
dexX7: yup, pankkake
mircea_popescu: pankkake the distinction blurs.
pankkake: labcoin is trolling itself so yes
mircea_popescu: some emo chick that doesn't wash ironically is still an slovenly slut.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 anyway, it's common for pr to repeat the official line. -pr quotes me all the time.
mircea_popescu: how's that prove it's a troll.
dexX7: hm? i'm just saying that "zhenhua_wang" has probably no connection to the "real" labcoin team
dexX7: just to underline that this is not the guy who wrote the message
mircea_popescu: but probably why ? on the basis of what ?
dexX7: 1. those quotes are from user "labcoin" (persona "sam" which is actually alessia), 2. howard/zhenhua wang is external and was hired by labcoin to create an asic, 3. wang never appeared on the forums/irc
dexX7: so how likely is it that this guy surprisingly appears on irc to mock labcoiners?
dexX7: according to the messages he was scammed by them, too and he seems to be a nice guy :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [COG.F2] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3671 @ 0.00018207 = 0.6684 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: we're not discussing whether this guy is or is not X random person irl.
mircea_popescu: we are discussing if this guy was actually paid by / working for labcoin or simply trolling.
mircea_popescu: on the face of what he said, the former would seem to be rather the case.
mircea_popescu: now whether it was really sam/alesia/theswede/whoever the fuck else that came here to bitch under that nick.... who cares.
pankkake: doubt it
pankkake: he just wanted to play with you
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.19 = 2.38 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: right, and the duck i ate earlier was just feigning.
mircea_popescu: because it's really impossible it be the case that the redditard generation is quite fucking stupid enough to do something on sept 30th and the exact oposite on oct 5
mircea_popescu: without being able to actually confront the fact that looky how fucking retarded we are.
pankkake: you're such a simple minded psychopathic :)
pankkake: [03:13] <samuel_jackson> we'll put motion up as soon as the board is up
pankkake: [03:13] <samuel_jackson> to take over the company form the scammers
pankkake: [03:13] <samuel_jackson> 70% is majority by far
pankkake: lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 19999 @ 0.00018124 = 3.6246 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: those guys are still deluding themselves
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/salo-9.jpg
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 50269 @ 0.00015826 = 7.9556 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 728 @ 0.00018056 = 0.1314 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 249 @ 0.002989 = 0.7443 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00298982 = 0.1943 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00085123 = 8.7251 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.002989 = 1.1956 BTC [-] {2}
Au-WireBeard: .d
ozbot: 148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 88 blocks | Estimated Change: 27.5702% in 0d 10h 24m 34s
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 800 @ 0.0001514 = 0.1211 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00084841 = 5.8116 BTC [-]
dexX7: ThickAsThieves: do you have a copy of am's latest statement made by the board? could you put it on pastebin or so?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.002989 = 0.8967 BTC [-]
VanCleef: ;;seen ThickAsThieves
gribble: ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 2 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <ThickAsThieves> a tor detector detector
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 75 @ 0.01189999 = 0.8925 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 20 @ 0.041945 = 0.8389 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.002989 = 0.8967 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4229 @ 0.00015265 = 0.6456 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 103 @ 0.00299 = 0.308 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5771 @ 0.0001512 = 0.8726 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 714 @ 0.00084841 = 0.6058 BTC [-]
dexX7: http://i.imgur.com/jEgzE7eh.jpg bruce willis is into bitcoin? x.x
pankkake: lol
pankkake: if you ignore the hair, somewhat
pankkake: it's that bowtie guy right?
dexX7: no idea ;)
pankkake: jeffrey tucker
nejon: could this be related to cointerra ipo on picostocks? http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1586249/000158624913000004/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml
dexX7: picostocks ipo is confirmed scam
nejon: how is that confirmed?
pankkake: because cointerra said it's a scam
pankkake: from what I understand of cointerra, they do not want to touch bitcoin at all
dexX7: but what you posted.. what does that actually mean?
nejon: have source?
dexX7: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1npqw8/cointerra_ipo_on_picostocks_any_details_about_this/
dexX7: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1npqw8/cointerra_ipo_on_picostocks_any_details_about_this/cckz2ln < to be more specific
dexX7: if kleecksj is kleeck from here, he's legit
pankkake: there's a screenshot of the support ticket somewhere
pankkake: (not that you should trust screenshots)
nejon: not sure if I should even trust some guy on support
nejon: are they supposed to know everything
pankkake: lol
dexX7: why should they use picostocks lol
nejon: based on how clueless some support people can be
dexX7: nothing against picostocks though
pankkake: yes, 1) why picostocks 2) why no announcement before actual ipo 3) the support guy didn't say i don't know, he said no stock selling
nejon: yes because he knows they are selling machines
nejon: what they should use then?
dexX7: bf i think
nejon: and that would make a difference :D
dexX7: ukyo spends a lot of coins for lawyers to make bf more legit
pankkake: and also would spend the 5 min required to see if it's legit
nejon: maybe you should spend more than 5min too
pankkake: nejon: at that point, I'm starting to think you're the scammer behind it
nejon: based on what?
pankkake: defending an obvious scam
nejon: can you point where I'm defending something?
nejon: anyway I would find it strange if bitfury team member was involved in scam like that
pankkake: what?
nejon: but I guess we will see soon enough
pankkake: see what?
dexX7: so what's the story behind this sec form?
pankkake: The Securities and Exchange Commission has not necessarily reviewed the information in this filing and has not determined if it is accurate and complete.
pankkake: The reader should not assume that the information is accurate and complete.
nejon: maybe you should ask the support guy about that form too..
nejon: I'm sure he is in the know
nejon: like many people working in support
dexX7: right now trading hasn't started yet on picostocks
dexX7: strange
dexX7: https://blockchain.info/tx/c5c6436dc53cd90306e6e9f958af32cde67506888ed012e4d57cd34e6bb5460a 50 btc were paid as "ipo fee"
ozbot: Bitcoin Transaction c5c6436dc53cd90306e6e9f958af32cde67506888ed012e4d57cd34e6bb5460a
nejon: what is strange about that?
pankkake: 50 btc to list on picostocks?!
dexX7: yes
pankkake: lol
VanCleef: very legit
dexX7: it's strange, because i wouldn't expect a scammer pay 50 btc for something that could be busted within a few minutes
nejon: ah
VanCleef: gotta spend money to scam money
dexX7: sure, but all it needs is a word from cointerra to end it
nejon: anyway I'm not convinced by some random support reply
nejon: and why wouldn't leszek verify with cointerra?
nejon: "If You accept the IPO evaluation You can close it at a selected price. After this You have 2 weeks to sign the sales contract with PicoStocks and submit the signed documents to the IPO office. If You miss this deadline the IPO will be canceled (the asset will be withdrawn from the system). You can also cancel the IPO any time yourself if You are not satisfied with the results and
nejon: withdraw the asset. In such case all investments in bids for the shares of this asset will be returned to the investors."
nejon: so it's impossible to scam if the owner of the exchange is not involved
nejon: which I would find very strange if he was
dexX7: https://picostocks.com/users/bitcoins/25 << that account payed the 50 btc
ozbot: PicoStocks : 1BASfHfaxhR3tb1HpHqiLBkSxPnc4A7AYn : User's Bitcoin transfer log
dexX7: Created:2012-12-22 14:02:50
dexX7: rephrased: not this account payed the fee, but the fee was payed from the same address
nejon: quite a lot of bitcoins on that account
nejon: that account seems like it's associated with picostock owners
nejon: doesn't really help anything
dexX7: maybe it's just a transit address
dexX7: ipo creator -> picostocks transit -> x
nejon: yep
nejon: and ipo fee might have been paid with bank transfer too
nejon: picostocks has that option
dexX7: https://picostocks.com/docs/index/31
ozbot: PicoStocks.com
dexX7: here are some names about people involved
dexX7: i don't know them
pankkake: why bother? if it's legit, cointerra will announce it
nejon: I think they wouldn't announce
pankkake: what
nejon: they have just filed with sec
nejon: sec hasn't made any decision
pankkake: so they certainly would not show it on picostocks then
nejon: what do you know about the legal issues?
pankkake: what the fuck
nejon: dexX7 I think leszek is the main guy
dexX7: of picostocks?
nejon: he was one of the main investors in bitfury too
nejon: yes
dexX7: k
nejon: with bioinfobank
dexX7: and koji, do you know him?
nejon: koji is his account
nejon: on picostocks
dexX7: ahh i see
nejon: you can see the info on that account
dexX7: i'm not familiar with ps :)
nejon: I bought some 100thash shares long ago
nejon: have a friend who knows leszek
dexX7: so, maybe i just don't see it. when does the ipo start?
nejon: it has started already
nejon: but closes after 7th
dexX7: no asks, no trades, no volume
nejon: total bid volume:2819.29566986
nejon: btc
dexX7: https://picostocks.com/stocks
ozbot: PicoStocks.com
dexX7: yes
dexX7: people placed bids
nejon: there are ipo shares for 8000btc
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4350 @ 0.00017 = 0.7395 BTC [-]
dexX7: but the issuer hasn't put up shares for sale
nejon: I'm just trying to find out if this is legit
nejon: would be suprised if leszek was involved in a scam
nejon: he has made a lot of money with bitfury
nejon: and why ruin the reputation
dexX7: please report back, if you get some information on it
nejon: I've sent a few emails but no response yet
nejon: dexX7 the shares will be put up for sale when the ipo is closed
nejon: and 7th is the deadline
pankkake: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7246/the-rush-to-bitcoin-asics-ravi-iyengar-launches-cointerra grep shares
ozbot: AnandTech | The Rush to Bitcoin ASICs: Ravi Iyengar launches CoinTerra
nejon: after 7th*
dexX7: now i understand..
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1027 @ 0.0012746 = 1.309 BTC [-] {2}
nejon: anyway even if the ipo is legit then there is still the thing about cointerra delivering something :)
dexX7: "The concept the selling of shares is blurring a legal line, especially in the US. We are not sure if that model is possible within our boundaries. There is also the issue regarding dealing with Bitcoin and converting to cash, thus becoming a money service. We do not want to be in any grey area, and we want to be clear with our business model. The goal of CoinTerra is to be a hardware
dexX7: product company first, rather than a base for Bitcoin distribution."
nejon: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1l0plk/an_insiders_take_on_cointerra_the_bitcoin_mining/cburgf6
ozbot: dtuur comments on An Insiders Take on CoinTerra & the Bitcoin Mining Sector
nejon: then there is also this
nejon: "CoinTerra will announce other products in the future. Also, chip sales find their way back to smaller scale investors in the form of IPO's and cloud hashing services."
assbot: [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 172 @ 0.00812 = 1.3966 BTC [-]
dexX7: "in form of ipo's"... sounds more like a project like the 100th mine
dexX7: but hard to tell
nejon: I'm leaning towards the ipo not being a scam because leszek does really have more to lose than win if he would be involved in that
nejon: he is running the exchange with known identity and he is making a lot of money already with the bitfury equipment
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 80 @ 0.01241 = 0.9928 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [BMF] 100 @ 0.0155 = 1.55 BTC [+]
pankkake: I didn't get my winnings for http://bitbet.us/bet/527/ebay-will-accept-btc-before-october-6/
kakobrekla: wasnt paid out yet
jgja: is Labcoin moving to direct shares on Monday?
kakobrekla: nejon we all know who nefario is, too.
kakobrekla: ;;seen nefario
gribble: nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 1 week, 4 days, 9 hours, 19 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore
pankkake: it's weird to show the resolution but not have the payout
kakobrekla: money cums soon after the resolution, up to 24hrs is normal
[\]: kakobrekla's a slow cummer
pankkake: a scummer
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 400 @ 0.00026993 = 0.108 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1350 @ 0.00027799 = 0.3753 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 900 @ 0.00027799 = 0.2502 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.141 = 2.282 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.13 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 93 @ 0.00122229 = 0.1137 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 100 @ 0.0012 = 0.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 107 @ 0.00116 = 0.1241 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.0366 = 0.366 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.11999999 = 1.2 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 800 @ 0.00027799 = 0.2224 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 400 @ 0.00028358 = 0.1134 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 534 @ 0.0029 = 1.5486 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 410 @ 0.0029 = 1.189 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 26 @ 1.25746153 = 32.694 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 31892 @ 0.00015272 = 4.8705 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: http://gizmodo.com/does-political-belief-make-you-suck-at-math-1440010845
mircea_popescu: basically, it does.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00085412 = 1.452 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4986 @ 0.00084993 = 4.2378 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 8069 @ 0.00014168 = 1.1432 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 500 @ 0.00028844 = 0.1442 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 500 @ 0.00028844 = 0.1442 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.11 = 0.33 BTC [-]
Vexual: good day gents
phish: .d
ozbot: 148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 42 blocks | Estimated Change: 27.4550% in 0d 4h 58m 59s
phish: ;;genrate 30000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 30000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 148819199.805, is 0.101379361754 BTC per day and 0.00422414007307 BTC per hour.
mircea_popescu: heya.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5773 @ 0.00084887 = 4.9005 BTC [-]
Vexual: How are you MP?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 9 @ 0.01189999 = 0.1071 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: great.
Vexual: That is good to hear, I am having a quiet evening watching a sliver of the moon sitting on a beautiful sunset. It feels as though everything is right in the world.
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 250 @ 0.00121157 = 0.3029 BTC [-] {4}
Vexual: http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-09-18/science/42182028_1_sunspots-maunder-minimum-solar-cycle
ozbot: Solar activity drops to 100-year low, puzzling scientists - Times Of India
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 35505 @ 0.00013024 = 4.6242 BTC [-] {10}
mircea_popescu: its man made.
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 822 @ 0.0001226 = 0.1008 BTC [-]
Vexual: indeed, 10,000 year model is no good with the cosmos
mircea_popescu: esp when it's a 55 year model extrapolated through the use of purpose-tailored math.
Vexual: dont get met started on the misuse of orbital telescopes
mircea_popescu: :p
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9VQye6P8k0
ozbot: Patience - YouTube
mircea_popescu: this has got to be the best google translate ever : http://postimg.org/image/4dyqw79x3/
Vexual: savage
jurov: http://i.imgur.com/4nsBBpq.jpg just a morning wo..er wisdom
b0n1: are the passwords of bitcointalk salted? If so, were the hackers able to read out the salted random numbers?
mircea_popescu: The whole enterprise of counting publications as a means to evaluating research excellence is pernicious and completely absurd. If a 12 year-old were to write 'I fink that Enid Blyton iz bettern than that Emily Bronte bint cos she has written loads more books' then one could reasonably excuse the spelling as reflective of the stupidity of the mind that produced the content. What we now have in academia is a situation
mircea_popescu: where intelligent men and women prostitute themselves to an ideal which no intelligent person could believe.
mircea_popescu: b0n1 as far as anyone knows they were not salted but put through 7500 iterations of whatever goop.
pankkake: that's pretty much what all scientists say - or maybe I have biais on those I know
pankkake: and yet, it goes on
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.002979 = 0.1192 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmeTAWyXx00
ozbot: Bob Marley Babylon System Demo 1979 - YouTube
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5978 @ 0.00012292 = 0.7348 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 13000 @ 0.0001227 = 1.5951 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 90 @ 0.0098 = 0.882 BTC [-]
Vexual: a funny thing i have noticed about university et al, is that professors will get students to write and submit papers that for the basis of what they want to say later
Vexual: *form
Vexual: form over substance
assbot: [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 40 @ 0.00812 = 0.3248 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.0816 = 0.2448 BTC [+]
Vexual: it can be called gruntwork, but when someone else is pulling the strings...
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 3 @ 0.1346 = 0.4038 BTC [+]
jurov: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 262051 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 28 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 hours, 6 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 189402885.915 | Estimated Percent Change: 27.27046
jurov: lol it's going to be 30% again?
pankkake: and this despite the many ddoes
Vexual: theres some facinating data mining going on in neroscience that throws the convention oh "hypothesis" out the window
Vexual: imaging crazy brains is cool science
Vexual: and when those wizards release their tools to the genetecists, boom, info 2.0
Vexual: psychiatry, where philospohy meets science
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 52 @ 0.01 = 0.52 BTC [-]
Vexual: datamining with obscure data. dem patents
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 26 @ 0.008002 = 0.2081 BTC [-]
Vexual: its a pity how all the good shit is fully funded
jurov: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1nt0k3/what_is_something_youve_seen_that_no_one_will/cclqu68 the shit i'm reading sometimes
jurov: i should stop
Vexual: is america still a thing?
jurov: it's a hypothesis
Vexual: its people and acres and a spirit of innovation
jurov: and bald eagles
Vexual: but theyre all mental
Vexual: weve got fucking wedge tailed eagles which are way more boss, and would beast a bald eagle in any competition imaginable except baldness, and we just go about our business and don't parade our awesome eagles much very oft at all
pankkake: "Now, I I only had a government..."
pankkake: http://www.reddit.com/r/MURICA/ is fun
ozbot: 'MURICA FUCK YEAH!
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
Vexual: australia is best ralia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fXO0CDSZT0
Vexual: also mining lease fees ahvent changed for 100 years, and we got rocks
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7800 @ 0.00014788 = 1.1535 BTC [+] {4}
Vexual: kennilworth investors bought the operators a landcruiser and some salaries
Vexual: the magnetic imaging was done,it was double talk and paper pushing
Vexual: real miners never own the land where the lease is
Vexual: unless it wasnt owned before
Vexual: mining warden is nearly as boss as queen here
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0029 = 0.29 BTC [-]
Vexual: goes like this
Vexual: applicant: i want 100 hectares as bordered by hese coordinates
pankkake: so kenilworthnothing is a scam?
Vexual: warden: are the borders runnung north south and east west and do you have the $374 and the approprate form
Vexual: applicant: yes
Vexual: warden: will you attempt to mine the and in your lifetime?
Vexual: applicant: yes
Vexual: warden: the court accepts the license
Vexual: pankkake, how much money did they get?
pankkake: I don't know, didn't follow it much
Vexual: i dont think its a scam by australian standards, but i'm guessing if they wanted they could chase burnside for more money
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
Vexual: are they listed on the asx too? its well dodgy
Vexual: its about what one would expect with a speculative mining lease multiplied by bitcoin 2013
Vexual: and i'd say if the ira was a bother to uncle sam, their names might ring bells with prism
Vexual: but weve got more war criminals and psycopaths per capita than south amrica, so who cares
Vexual: freedom fighters, whatever your fancy
pankkake: I have a hard time understanding your points
Vexual: the world isnt big enough for speculative leaseholders anymore
Vexual: what you want is smart dudes, on the ground, mining in cheap labour countries
Vexual: gold in the philippines and africa
Vexual: people skills
Vexual: not buying diggers incase the land is profitable
Vexual: coz when the go bankrupt, they keep the diggers in the shed until after the creditors are paid, and noone stops them
Vexual: its the third oldest trick in the book, after selling your cooch and "get em hooked and jack up the price"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 516 @ 0.0029 = 1.4964 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.00285003 = 0.1055 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.25 = 3.75 BTC [-] {3}
Vexual: kenilworth is a mining lease taken out on a family farm with no intention of ever mining or allowing it to be mined, if there's even anything there
Vexual: new landcruiser.
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 10 @ 0.08 = 0.8 BTC [-]
Vexual: im gonna have to get a gun like mp if i keep talking shit on the internet
Vexual: i imagine he had a german made 45 pistol
Vexual: the kind of thing that stops a conversation abruptly
Vexual: i imagine one can be a gentleman and own a gun in romania, but i might be wrong
Vexual: manila, now there you buy a $10 license and its cod machine pistols
Vexual: is just that little bit right of guam you know
Vexual: pankkake was it you talking of laying new sea cables the other day?
pankkake: no
Vexual: oh
Vexual: are you asian?
Vexual: coz asia is the place to lay cable
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0120685 = 0.6034 BTC [+] {4}
Vexual: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Lower_NTK_Estate_old_squat_toilet.jpg
Vexual: goat
Vexual: coming soon to the crime section of bankok international airbort bookshop
Vexual: how dpr1.0 framed dpr2.0 for his own murder
Vexual: everyone gets off and they take more acid
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 136 @ 0.001244 = 0.1692 BTC [-]
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lTAT0dZMRw
ozbot: Scott McKenzie - San Francisco REMIX - YouTube
phish: .d
ozbot: 148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 13 blocks | Estimated Change: 26.9513% in 0d 1h 30m 32s
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 1.26 = 13.86 BTC [+]
Vexual: cexio 2002
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.263 BTC [+]
Vexual: no riddles today, theres a solar storm coming in three days
Vexual: id bitbet it, but it would be immoral
Vexual: yes i mean a coronal ejection from the sun
Vexual: quantify the magnitude you say?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1308 @ 0.00125214 = 1.6378 BTC [+] {6}
Vexual: i say print out your bitcoin wallets just in case
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 68 @ 0.01206999 = 0.8208 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 405 @ 0.01214887 = 4.9203 BTC [+] {3}
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnBi-LNM0Og
ozbot: Happy Mondays - Step On - YouTube
jurov: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-payment-protocol-makeover/ - plan to establish bitcoin certificate authorities
jurov: But concerns over certificate security irritate Hearn. “The reality is that [certificate technology] is the best we’ve got, it’s being improved via initiatives like cert transparency, and it has a track record of stopping worst case adversaries.”
Vexual: i want afuckin refund
jurov: not a single word who shall manage the root certificate
jurov: Vexual: sorry to break your happy mood
Vexual: ya cant
jurov: oh it's prolly meant to build on existing SSL CA infrastructure?... god save us
Vexual: seems like bitcoin devs are going beyond what is required of the blockchain
jurov: oh, they do it since satoshi left. except when they have to fix the breakage.
Vexual: but we dont have to bip
Vexual: satoshi left ike dpr1.0
Vexual: except satoshi didnt keep getting a paycheck
Vexual: hey i made a disruptive thing, im audi
jurov: you mean like we "don't have to" buy a recognized ssl certificate?
jurov: i can see where this is supposed to go... to provide "SSL-secured(r)(tm) bitcoin deposit address"
jurov: you'll have to pay CA scammers for ssl cert?
Vexual: dont make me say it
jurov: cause, how else will the poor customer be sure the address is really yours?
Vexual: read
jurov: makes me sick... hopefully this won't fly
Vexual: it will, you dont need to use it
jurov: me not. but what if i get inquiries like "but my wallet says coinbr deposit address is untrusted!!!"?
Vexual: :)
Vexual: relax
pankkake: bitcoin developers using broken CA system when they have… namecoin
Vexual: ill grant you its more kinds or irony than a trilemma post, but just like them, don't lose no sleep
jurov: pankkake: this. or the addy can be verified in distributed manner by other my customers gpg signing it
jurov: heck, or even btc-signing it
Vexual: my handspan exceeds my inet nippular siastance
Vexual: *inter
Vexual: *distance
jurov: and what does it mean? heightened testosterone?
Vexual: marfans?
jurov: kleptomania?
Vexual: no
Vexual: i just like vectors
Vexual: where do you live jurov?
Vexual: i like to work out the geographical crow flight half way point
Vexual: ill also just get your mothers maiden name for your star chart
jurov: wait, they use what now in star charts?
Vexual: penis size?
Vexual: its just for the chart
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 84 @ 0.001221 = 0.1026 BTC [-]
jurov: and i did tell where i live several times already, do your research
Vexual: did you?
Vexual: ddid i?
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 8 @ 0.4625 = 3.7 BTC [+]
Vexual: i actually am interested in halfway
Vexual: unlike your mother or your penis
Vexual: as a bonus you get to knpow the direction to avoid
jurov: as a result of half-assed research?
jurov: if, then i want full-assed one
Vexual: well im gessing its somewhere in the middle of the pacific'
Vexual: see how i dropped the u?
jurov: no idon't want to see what ur doing with the keyboard
Vexual: i always eat the extra enter key
VanCleef: vexual pinoy ka ba?
VanCleef: muzta?
Vexual: shabbadabba
VanCleef: siiiiige
Vexual: yeah i dont know what that is
Vexual: where are u vancleef? holland?
VanCleef: brazil
jurov: i didn't considered human tallow there edible
jurov: *consider
Vexual: human tallow? fork man
Vexual: are u dutch vancleef?
jurov: on the other enter key
Vexual: our halfway is pacific ocean
VanCleef: i'm not a filthy dutchmen
Vexual: why so van?
VanCleef: because i use soap
Vexual: to the root?
VanCleef: i dont believe in your magic
Vexual: i dont undertsnad the connection
jurov: i think our halfway is the atlantic then
Vexual: wise
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.01509, Best ask: 135.49499, Bid-ask spread: 0.47990, Last trade: 135.00505, 24 hour volume: 3673.53219031, 24 hour low: 135.00505, 24 hour high: 138.00000, 24 hour vwap: 136.56759
Vexual: vancannibal, our halfway could be mauritius if we went the ,ong way
Vexual: sau paulo
Vexual: your dad made a machine
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7574 @ 0.00013347 = 1.0109 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.0124 = 0.124 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7574 @ 0.0001304 = 0.9876 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1.2889 = 3.8667 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00084843 = 2.9695 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 20 @ 0.0082 = 0.164 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 80610 @ 0.00012366 = 9.9682 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1116 @ 0.00129789 = 1.4484 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: http://ethno.ihp.sinica.edu.tw/en/southwest/imgs/WA/WA_07-06.jpg
assbot: [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 180 @ 0.0082 = 1.476 BTC [+]
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfS5tgNC6qw
ozbot: BULLET STUNT KAMMO TAKHAR - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.29000001 = 2.58 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 6450 @ 0.0001517 = 0.9785 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1.3 = 3.9 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.29000001 = 2.58 BTC [-]
Vexual: there was a storm on the 3rd, i might be wrong
Vexual: fuck it, let it ride
Vexual: 10/10/13
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 29 @ 0.01256896 = 0.3645 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 256 @ 0.00066004 = 0.169 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 212 @ 0.00065094 = 0.138 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.266 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 5 @ 0.08 = 0.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.298875 = 10.391 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 1.299 = 16.887 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.04197 = 0.3358 BTC [+]
Jere_Jones: ThickAsThieves: Your presence is requested in #asicminer
mircea_popescu: any competition imaginable except baldness << lmao
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> so kenilworthnothing is a scam? << it's an amazing business minus the amazing and the business part.
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
mircea_popescu: jurov that dude is retarded jesus.
jurov: who? vexual?
mircea_popescu: no hearn & co.
mircea_popescu: "certificates are shit but nevertheless i don't understand anything and really want to matter so here's my authoritative opinion on shit i really have no business discussing
mircea_popescu: please pay attention to me because i hjave a proven track record of having accidentally forked the chain and i really suck at coding"
mircea_popescu: anyway, forget about power rangers. here : The programmer’s wife tells him: “Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.”. He comes back with 12 loaves of bread.
VanCleef: < mircea_popescu> H<HpankkakeH>H so kenilworthnothing is a scam? << it's an amazing business minus the
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
VanCleef: amazing and the business part. - lol
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
mod6: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 262097 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 1998 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 16 hours, 46 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 326660200.57 | Estimated Percent Change: 72.57927
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: "I gave the fool an ax, so he would bring some twigs; so to the mosque he ran, and smashed the door to sticks."
asciilifeform: (impromptu hack of a translation from russian, originally of a persian rhyme, that i read as a kid.)
asciilifeform: (re: programmer & his bread.)
mircea_popescu: :p
mircea_popescu: about the ddoses : i suspect bitcoin mining will fundamentally change the way internet adressing works.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that even if you aren't trying to do a 50% attack, it is now more lucrative to ddos someone than to increase your mining farm.
mircea_popescu: if you hold 10% of hashpower and another dork holds 10% of hashpower, you can either spend mns of dollars to add another 1% to your hashing or to knock him offline
mircea_popescu: never before has it actually been millions of dollars in cash for ddosing a target.
asciilifeform: knocking the competing miner offline helps all of the survivors, not just you, though
mircea_popescu: and quite frankly nothing else happening on the internet today matters by comparison, so it'll have to change.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah. which is why you can probably just start it and they'll pile in.
mircea_popescu: becomes very much lord of the flies.
asciilifeform: when rats in a box, they eat each other, the last one dies of its wounds, and the box will eventually contain something else.
mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: this is much more of a problem for the future than anything the retardevs are fiddling with.
asciilifeform: the sad part is that this isn't even a hard problem.
mircea_popescu: im not so sure.
asciilifeform: trivial solution: a kind of reverse mining pool, where people are paid small btc continuously to run single-purpose proxies
asciilifeform: that makes your mega-asic-cluster look like a mining botnet
asciilifeform: nothing to ddos
asciilifeform: or, more intelligently, solo mining distributed over multiple independent proper btc nodes.
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1343 @ 0.001221 = 1.6398 BTC [-]
KRS1: wouldnt that make it more robust and less prone to failure
assbot: [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 212 @ 0.0082 = 1.7384 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 124 @ 0.0025 = 0.31 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 164 @ 0.002501 = 0.4102 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the latter would be the ideal solution.
mircea_popescu: my secret hope is that THIS is what will end up resolving the "not paid to convey tx" problem
mircea_popescu: you will be paid, by the miners who don't want to be ddos'd to shit.
mircea_popescu: if that indeed is how the chips fall i'll be quite impressed with satoshi's genius, for originally i thought the node pauyment problem was oversight.
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 18000 @ 0.00016296 = 2.9333 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 115 @ 0.01255 = 1.4433 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.0001749 = 0.3498 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4832 @ 0.000175 = 0.8456 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: fuckin microtik, pressed the wrong button, lost an hour of life.
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.0001787 = 0.3574 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2458 @ 0.0001788 = 0.4395 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla same thing happened to me earlier.
mircea_popescu: was fondling this chick, accidentally touched the button, one hour later i was back on my feet.
kakobrekla: :p
pankkake: I'm not sure I understand this analogy
pankkake: also, microtik does not respect your freedoms
mircea_popescu: http://www.urbit.org/2013/09/26/palaz.html < loller.
ozbot: Urbit - Tea at the Palaz of Hoon
jurov: what? and bitches do respect?
mircea_popescu: totally.
jurov: mircea i read that yest, had brain meltdown, filed it for later
mircea_popescu: if they don't it's the little room for them.
mircea_popescu: jurov for the record, i'm not pushing it, asciilifeform is pushing it. imo the guy's walking around with shoes too large for his feet. but anyway.
jurov: yea i know it's originally from him.. and i understood so far he sems to intend to implement some
jurov: insanely simplified functional language
jurov: in , say, 500 transistors
jurov: and thus make provably correct hardware
mircea_popescu: basically, let's take all the reason people don't use forth and add mud.
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10001 @ 0.0001787 = 1.7872 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.01250002 = 0.3125 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.01250001 = 0.975 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 477 @ 0.01250041 = 5.9627 BTC [+] {2}
mod6: this urbit thing is neato
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 63 @ 0.01288959 = 0.812 BTC [+] {4}
nubbins`: hi
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.01289999 = 0.6708 BTC [+]
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i've got a list of magistrate judges that were serving in 1993, but your blog thinks i'm a robot.
mircea_popescu: heya!
mircea_popescu: you need to give it a few seconds after you load a page, otherwise if you just paste shit in
mircea_popescu: it will spit
nubbins`: hmm, been on the page for a good 10 minutes now
nubbins`: n/m, there we go
nubbins`: there were apparently only 46 magistrage judges in 1993
mircea_popescu: nubbins` 46 ?
mircea_popescu: no fucking way ?!
nubbins`: i know, that's not even one per state
nubbins`: and new jersey had like 5
mircea_popescu: hmmmm
nubbins`: i guess there are other types of judges besides magistrate judges
mircea_popescu: you know magistrature is relatively recent ...
mircea_popescu: well yes, district judges.
mircea_popescu: holy shit no fucking way 46 ?!
nubbins`: yep
nubbins`: http://www.fjc.gov/history/export/jb.txt
nubbins`: CSV dump
nubbins`: "Bankruptcy and Magistrate service" is the final column
mircea_popescu: The directory includes the biographies of judges presidentially appointed during good behavior who have served since 1789 on the U.S. District Courts, the U.S. Courts of Appeals, the Supreme Court of the United States, the former U.S. Circuit Courts, and the federal judiciary's courts of special jurisdiction.
mircea_popescu: it's the presidentially appointed
mircea_popescu: i thought they get appointed by the court itself
nubbins`: a ton of them got appointed by clinton in late oct 1993
mircea_popescu: hmmm
mircea_popescu: you know you might be right even.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 48 @ 0.03766228 = 1.8078 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.00013013 = 0.6507 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: anyway, i probably precluded myself from any of that bounty by posting that info so early
mircea_popescu: why ?
nubbins`: well, i just saved someone a bunch of work
mircea_popescu: still gets allocated to you
nubbins`: o
nubbins`: anyway, fun task
nubbins`: #2 is a LOT more work
mircea_popescu: yeah.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1.335 = 4.005 BTC [+]
Namworld: [14:04] <@assbot> [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.00013013 = 0.6507 BTC [-] {3}
Namworld: lol
Namworld: 1 month to fall to 1/30th of price
mircea_popescu: but what a month.
kakobrekla: !t bt labcoin
assbot: [BTCT:LABCOIN] 1D: 0.0001226 / 0.00017 / 0.0002495 (591825 shares, 101.2 BTC), 7D: 0.0001226 / 0.00024 / 0.0004 (3022640 shares, 713.3 BTC), 30D: 0.0001226 / 0.00149 / 0.003989 (16872541 shares, 25162.5 BTC)
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 60 @ 0.005011 = 0.3007 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.33899999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.251 = 3.753 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 502 @ 0.00129843 = 0.6518 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.3 = 2.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 700 @ 0.01341969 = 9.3938 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4865 @ 0.00028845 = 1.4033 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: mod6 http://trilema.com/2013/so-this-urbit-thing/ might interest you then
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 3 @ 0.51 = 1.53 BTC [+]
mod6: I just saw that. :)
mod6: This thing is pretty neat, might take me some time to learn hoon tho.
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 26 @ 0.005012 = 0.1303 BTC [+]
KRS1: oh cool complimentary trilema articles
mod6: I don't wanna get too far off course just yet. Gotta wrap up this current bitotter work and get further along with my look into cramer-shoup
mod6: i kinda think the idea of the urbit ship being virtual real estate. Can only be transfered 9 times before it has no value.
nubbins`: "And then for each of these individually compile a record showing all their rulings, orders and decisions which in any way touched upon individual rights of privacy, broadly construed so as to include anything relating to the production of communications of private persons in any written form, limited to an adversarial proceeding in which the US Government, or any agency or representative thereof w
nubbins`: party, with proper case reference by number and where available link to published court proceedings"
nubbins`: ^^^ is this restricted to the period of time when they were a magistrate judge?
benkay_: mod6 it's not a permanent thing
mod6: Strange. Yet, kinda cool at first look here. I'll play with it a bit.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.3 = 5.2 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yup
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 1.23205 = 24.641 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: ok, great
mircea_popescu: obviously if they become a senator it's moot
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: this is going to be a very small list
nubbins`: to my surprise
nubbins`: well, wait now
nubbins`: i mean, some of these judges are still judges
nubbins`: just not magistrate judges
mircea_popescu: hm ?
nubbins`: for example, Africk has issued privacy rulings in 2005 and 2013, but was only a magistrate judge from 1990-2002
mircea_popescu: well as long as he still issued rulings, you wan them
nubbins`: sure
mircea_popescu: how do you establish he's only issued so in 2005 and 2013 ?
nubbins`: searched records from us gov printing office
nubbins`: to be fair, i used the word "privacy" as a search qualifier, so i may have missed privacy-related rulings that did not use the word "privacy"
mircea_popescu: indeed.
nubbins`: but i suspect that the number of said rulings would be vanishingly small
mircea_popescu: broadly construed so as to include anything relating to the production of communications of private persons in any written for
mircea_popescu: i don't think there's any way to avoid going through his caselist
mircea_popescu: you can sort to exclude cases where govt is not a party, and maybe cases where no persons are parties,
nubbins`: yeah, that removed most of the chaff
mircea_popescu: but otherwise you kinda have to skim the complaints
nubbins`: can a court visit the issue of privacy without using the word, though?
nubbins`: i mean, they can talk all they want about communications in any written form, but unless the word "privacy" or "private" comes up, they're not really discussing privacy, are they?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.01304204 = 0.6521 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: yes they are.
mircea_popescu: if Joe is ordered to produce the letter Moe sent him during discovery of Jane's divorce,
mircea_popescu: this qualifies.
mircea_popescu: arguably the part where privacy is touched upon without being specifically said so is more important than the other.
nubbins`: arguably i could exclude all such cases and still win a fat bounty if nobody produces evidence that i left out any rulings
mircea_popescu: arguably.
nubbins`: that's probably what i'm going to do, fyi
mircea_popescu: well, free market of bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: it's how mining works too.
nubbins`: wait, mining works?
nubbins`: lel, &c
mircea_popescu: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 280954568.202 based on data since last change | 212713646.91 based on data for last three days
mircea_popescu: holy shit!?
nubbins`: yeah, lots of sad pandas with usb block erupters today
nubbins`: not just today, of course
mircea_popescu: lol pity the forum isn't up so i could forcefeed everyone -pr's buffett quote
nubbins`: take consolation in the fact that they're quietly worrying while hitting F5 on /r/bitcoin
nubbins`: now, if you'll excuse me, i'm told there is a cat in my bed that i must go bother
mircea_popescu: bother all the cats.
saulimus: is there a precise time announced when btct will disable trading?
dub: does anyone give a fuck?
KRS1: hmm
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 156 @ 0.001221 = 0.1905 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.0414 = 0.1656 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: yes, a negative fuck.
mod6: don't destroy the universe!
kakobrekla: :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0131 = 0.393 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: you can't unscrew a pregnant lightbulb.
kakobrekla: 18:40.43 ( mircea_popescu ) about the ddoses : i suspect bitcoin mining will fundamentally change the way internet adressing works.
kakobrekla: doesnt p2pool solve this already?
mircea_popescu: not large enough yet i don't think, and has other problems
mircea_popescu: (does it work with mm yet ?)
kakobrekla: i dont think mm is an issue
KRS1: thats pretty deep
kakobrekla: apparently mm already works with p2pool
mircea_popescu: a ok
mircea_popescu: then pretty cool, maybe it gets more widely used.
kakobrekla: it will if there will be a need for it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0134 = 0.335 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: <KRS1> thats pretty deep // indeed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0134 = 1.34 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.16 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 12000 @ 0.00016 = 1.92 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.12005 = 0.2401 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.12 = 0.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.08107 = 0.2432 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 8 @ 0.01319374 = 0.1055 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: "Has anyone started a "Yelp" for bitcoin: Exchanges, clients, vendors, and mining hardware?"
ThickAsThieves: lol, reddit has gone full reddit
ThickAsThieves: it's not enough to tell every bitcoin thing how it should be working, now they will rate how well it does so
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.33899 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.33899 = 2.678 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.0014 = 0.14 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.11110001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.0012 = 0.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 135 @ 0.00114012 = 0.1539 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1239 @ 0.00028 = 0.3469 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2 = 2.4 BTC [+]
dub: http://terriblerealestateagentphotos.com/
ozbot: Terrible real estate agent photographs
dub: having just spent a year or so looking for a house I could have contributed some reat content
dexX7_: http://25.media.tumblr.com/40f72ad800fbc7d885c237420144a71b/tumblr_mu8ys4WzLu1rrqskho1_500.jpg xD
jurov: http://31.media.tumblr.com/ce83f6c430336d4551704835f4617b6c/tumblr_msg5kgiXox1rrqskho1_500.jpg i like this vampire one
jurov: and horse, too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 1.33899999 = 13.39 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.34 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 598 @ 0.00016799 = 0.1005 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: man, when i was in the market for a house, i saw some crazy shit
nubbins`: one house had a moat cut into the concrete slab in the basement
nubbins`: another had a dirt floor
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
dub: I put an offer on one where they'd left grow lights behind in the basement
dub: behind an obvious fake wall
nubbins`: hahaha
nubbins`: yeah, i've seen a few houses with "rooms" in the basement
nubbins`: no light fixtures, just hooks in the ceiling and ventilation everywhere
nubbins`: i ended up buying the row house with the schizophrenic hooker w/ tourette's next door, so uh, victory nubbins`
freshcoin: !hax
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 1.34198 = 6.7099 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.000168 = 0.168 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.31179999 = 6.559 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 14 @ 0.0415 = 0.581 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 195 @ 0.00287127 = 0.5599 BTC [+] {3}
jborkl: Kncminer smoking out
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00285104 = 0.1426 BTC [+]
jborkl: http://m.imgur.com/2UZuUzH
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: oof
kakobrekla: hardcore
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.32 = 3.96 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: where is this from jborkl, their lab or shipped miner?
jborkl: I think shipped miner, I found it on their forum posted by a regular user
kakobrekla: aha
jborkl: Ther are two units reported burned from what I can see
dub: toasty
dub: I just heard alberto is behind labcoin
jborkl: http://m.imgur.com/a/hyA3a
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: alberto european styling gel?
kakobrekla: BDT alberto?
kakobrekla: you gotta be shitting me
jborkl: Who is Alberto?
nubbins`: http://www.albertoeuropean.ca/DynamicContent/Stylopedia/images/6739b7d0-d29e-40b4-8ac0-2f5f74a13dad_MainImage.png
dub: bitscalper, bit day trade, etc
kakobrekla: guys 20k btc iirc
kakobrekla: eh
kakobrekla: owes
kakobrekla: to the guys
dub: https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=alberto+armandi
kakobrekla: yeah
kakobrekla: scammer
kakobrekla: >>Alberto Armandi, an ex-boyfriend of Alessia
kakobrekla: zomg
kakobrekla: http://newsbitcoin.com/?p=14153
ozbot: An overview and update of the Labcoin scam | NewsBitcoin.com
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7161 @ 0.00017036 = 1.2199 BTC [+] {2}
dexX7_: kakobrekla: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1ncdf1/labcoin_outed_as_a_scam/ << summary
kakobrekla: i hope two things happen here,
kakobrekla: 1. people lose as much money as possible
kakobrekla: 2. AA goes to jail
dexX7_: sounds fair
kakobrekla: i know all about AA and his failures, even spoke to him on skype a year or so ago, total retard
kakobrekla: i just wasnt sure it was behind labcoin
kakobrekla: though i made that joke a while ago
kakobrekla: that it would be extra funny if AA is behind it
dexX7_: all that above is speculation though
dexX7_: this is one of the newest clues: (from the frist q&a on aug 8 - still needs confirmation) [11:41:30] * labcoin_dev (~alberto@host173-29-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #labcoin
kakobrekla: lmao
kakobrekla: makes sense
kakobrekla: since he cant show his face around anymore
dexX7_: he's most likely in hong kong right now
kakobrekla: nothing will come out of it
kakobrekla: except he made some coin again
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.01349975 = 0.567 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: i see ppl haveing lots of problems running kncminers
nubbins`: are they expected to ROI? i seem to recall figuring at one point that people would need them in-hand in september in order to break even
blastbob1: kakobrekla: 34 of 36 boards are working fine :)
kakobrekla: so you ordered like 9 of those ?
blastbob1: have 27 in total
blastbob1: got 9 for now
blastbob1: rest should be hashing coming week
kakobrekla: not bad
blastbob1: had problem with the recommended 850w choice
blastbob1: first firmware pulls 4.4amps
blastbob1: so it killed the fuse on the PSU
kakobrekla: cooling is adequate?
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2212 @ 0.0001331 = 0.2944 BTC [-]
blastbob1: yea
blastbob1: DC with good flow
kakobrekla: shame you have to have external ugly atx psu
blastbob1: yea, got messy in the racks
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.09833333 = 0.295 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: got any pics?
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 25545 @ 0.00013093 = 3.3446 BTC [-] {7}
blastbob1: http://p2pool.nl/blog/mining-update/
ozbot: Mining update | 2GMTA Blog
kakobrekla: a, you are running addiction?
blastbob1: yea Tyrion and me
kakobrekla: who is Tyrion
blastbob1: Tyrion70 on btctalk
kakobrekla: a i see he is here too, k
blastbob1: yea
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 99 @ 0.003005 = 0.2975 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 81 @ 0.006212 = 0.5032 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00084229 = 5.6433 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 262139 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 1956 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 5 hours, 46 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 229942987.596 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.48218
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 201 @ 0.0006014 = 0.1209 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 138 @ 0.01362767 = 1.8806 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1160 @ 0.0001301 = 0.1509 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.0138 = 0.3726 BTC [+]
phish: ;;genrate 30000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 30000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 189281249.281, is 0.0797078186573 BTC per day and 0.00332115911072 BTC per hour.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.345 = 2.69 BTC [+]