assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 9825 @ 0.00023995 = 2.3575 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.96410008 = 21.2102 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2237 @ 0.0008746 = 1.9565 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 1.06999999 = 5.35 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 1.07377999 = 10.7378 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.94000001 = 3.76 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.98000001 = 3.92 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.98 BTC [-]
jborkl: Wow so there was a 7000 btc bet that list on just dice
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.01 BTC [-]
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 535 BTC profit, 52.2k BTC invested, 153.29 mio bets, 3.94 mio BTC wagered
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 39 @ 0.00337102 = 0.1315 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 153 @ 0.00900102 = 1.3772 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 22 @ 0.00812 = 0.1786 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 14 @ 0.035 = 0.49 BTC [-]
gribble: A market order to sell 26000 bitcoins right now would net 3239896.0492 USD and would take the last price down to 114.3095 USD, resulting in an average price of 124.6114 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 15.9039 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 1 = 18 BTC [-]
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.44499, Best ask: 137.45000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00501, Last trade: 137.45000, 24 hour volume: 16088.60262100, 24 hour low: 131.52000, 24 hour high: 139.80000, 24 hour vwap: 135.42569
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.9853 = 1.9706 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.981 = 9.81 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.1346 = 0.2692 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5337 @ 0.00023997 = 1.2807 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2117 @ 0.0002487 = 0.5265 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.045 = 0.18 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 31 @ 0.00858966 = 0.2663 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 200 @ 0.00621 = 1.242 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.005 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 48 @ 0.00510025 = 0.2448 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 883 @ 0.0002487 = 0.2196 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2200 @ 0.0002489 = 0.5476 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.07999997 = 2.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 72 @ 0.00996352 = 0.7174 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 2600 @ 0.00019891 = 0.5172 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1114 @ 0.000199 = 0.2217 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 500 @ 0.00020503 = 0.1025 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.006 = 2.012 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 1.01 = 18.18 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 31 @ 0.00940001 = 0.2914 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.30000004 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 13000 @ 0.00024902 = 3.2373 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 550 @ 0.000254 = 0.1397 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00602 = 0.602 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.00945499 = 0.416 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00999799 = 0.5599 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 1.08438332 = 19.5189 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.13 = 2.26 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00087694 = 2.9816 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 80 @ 0.36000002 = 28.8 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 740 @ 0.000254 = 0.188 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 199 @ 0.001255 = 0.2497 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2000 @ 0.00126884 = 2.5377 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [COG.F2] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5425 @ 0.00087694 = 4.7574 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.045 = 0.27 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 1.075 = 16.125 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 1.099 = 17.584 BTC [+]
ozbot: The Institute for Justice
mircea_popescu: "Can the government use civil forfeiture to take your money when you have done nothing wrongand then pocket the proceeds? The IRS thinks so."
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 29 @ 0.13990689 = 4.0573 BTC [-] {5}
pankkake: this institude for justice seems to do pretty cool stuff
gribble: Current Blocks: 261801 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 278 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 14 hours, 7 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 185413506.454 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.58978
pankkake: many doctors seen, and for now, nothing concrete
pankkake: hence my time spent insulting people on forums
kakobrekla: i do that too, but without the headache
pankkake: oh, I did try the 28 hour day for a while
pankkake: but even my minimal social life was affected
pankkake: always blame the lack of buttsex
pankkake: I mean you have to think if you're going to be sleeping at some hour
pankkake: it's not like ok I can be there that day
pankkake: it's also very weird when you get out and the sun isn't where it should be
kakobrekla: lucky for me i hate people enough so i dont miss the socialization
pankkake: well, I thought I was - but I gave up after a month I think
pankkake: I think doing it like 26h week (and cycle over 2 weeks) would be idle
pankkake: I wanted to go to sleep but forced me no to
ozbot: Why you need Bitcoin, simply put. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: i used to buy them on the silk road. now that the feds have disrupted silkroad, my supply of tits is gone.
pankkake: let's create titcoin. has 42 million titcoins, and you can only spend them by two
kakobrekla: make that a titocoin and maybe someone will go for it
pankkake: hm, you can probably have a tit fingerprint and convert it to a private key
kakobrekla: if diablo were here hed say "peniscoin!"
pankkake: I still have the best altcoin idea ever, the bernankoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.0008771 = 6.4028 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: I'm already too lazy to actually create it, so understanding the PoS dynamics… probably not :p
kakobrekla: just follow the 'make your own bitcoin fork' manual
pankkake: yeah, I think I bookmarked it for the occasion
pankkake: there's also some Krugman pics I could use
pankkake: egotistical giraffe, egostistical goat
ozbot: Attacking Tor: how the NSA targets users' online anonymity | World news | theguardian.com
mircea_popescu: dexX7 it's really very badly written, nonsensical goop.
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine schneider actually penned that. he must have sent sometyhing that got "edited for clarity"
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 7 @ 0.5 = 3.5 BTC [-]
dexX7: are you saying "the content is inconsistent" or "the presentation is just bad"?
mircea_popescu: i am saying that numerous concepts are employed in a way which belies unfamiliarity with the field, and the general structuring of the narrative is such that you suspect the author does not have a birds eye view of the topic.
mircea_popescu: neither of those goes with the alleged author, unless he was very very drunk at the time.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i guess now i have to go into details as otherwise this is all useless nonsense. brb.
dexX7: ;;later tell mircea_popescu "hmm.. got to go now, but if you actually came back with a more detailed answer - i'll read it later!"
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.099 = 5.495 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 1.13999999 = 5.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 72 @ 0.009998 = 0.7199 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [COG.F2] 1 @ 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 568 @ 0.00120006 = 0.6816 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 495 @ 0.00025002 = 0.1238 BTC [-] {2}
gribble: Current Blocks: 261816 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 263 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 9 hours, 45 minutes, and 14 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 185935645.524 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.94063
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.50001, Best ask: 136.09991, Bid-ask spread: 0.59990, Last trade: 135.50001, 24 hour volume: 13773.94364398, 24 hour low: 131.82491, 24 hour high: 139.80000, 24 hour vwap: 136.33476
gribble: Error: "avg" is not a valid command.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00087248 = 3.2718 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.021 = 2.042 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 522 @ 0.0002135 = 0.1114 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2415 @ 0.00024997 = 0.6037 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.021 = 2.042 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.0499 = 0.1497 BTC [+]
ozbot: 148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 231 blocks | Estimated Change: 25.6612% in 1d 4h 35m 46s
mircea_popescu: "Alexander further detailed that the metadata is collected under Executive Order 12333 from 2009."
mod6: ya 12333 would have been during reagan
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
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assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 457 @ 0.00139973 = 0.6397 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00026399 = 0.264 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00026399 = 0.264 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 202 @ 0.00999857 = 2.0197 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 11 @ 0.01 = 0.11 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1090 @ 0.000249 = 0.2714 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.01 = 1.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.07 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 211 @ 0.00289526 = 0.6109 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.09919998 = 27.48 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 25 @ 0.048 = 1.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.04232142 = 0.2962 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 1.15253846 = 14.983 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 827 @ 0.0104562 = 8.6473 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1250 @ 0.01074999 = 13.4375 BTC [+]
ozbot: Feds Try to Close the OCEAN Because of Shutdown
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 23 @ 0.00515 = 0.1185 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: It's sad US citizens are too lazy to start militias and start chaos.
mircea_popescu: i was thinking, the correct thing to do for a state governor is to simply pass a bill ordering all federal employees arested
mircea_popescu: for instance the arizona people could do it, after the entire "close grand canion" bs.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 211 @ 0.00285007 = 0.6014 BTC [-] {3}
Kleeck__: "It is on par with the government's ham-fisted attempts to close the DC WWII Memorial, an open-air public monument that is normally accessible 24 hours a day. By accessible I mean, you walk up to it. When you have finished reflecting, you then walk away from it. "
mircea_popescu: basically obama's horde is trying to show to congress that they can do absolutely anything and the sheeple will just take it.
Duffer1: he didn't shut down anything, congress did
mircea_popescu: all that's still needed is a logo and away we go!!1eleven
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.13774999 = 2.2755 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: NSA report on the Tor encrypted network - The Washington Post
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller WHEREAS, the individuals named have recently launched and intend to operate for the foreseeable future an unregistered corporation by the name "No Such lAbs" (NSA) dedicated to the production and marketing of a series of strong, fully integrated cryptography products, ensuring customers absolute immunity from third party attempts to access their data or communications ;
ozbot: Not Even the NSA Can Crack the State Dept's Favorite Anonymous Network | The Cable
mircea_popescu: basically every contact in the "press" is being herded to defend this holy grail of "tor is actually safe"
mircea_popescu: it's possible, but not likely. what happened is that one set of bureaucrats made tor at great expense, and another set used it in a disaster-of-commons way
mircea_popescu: this is why big governments can't have nice things, irrespective of what uyou might have heard.
ozbot: Talk by Roger Dingledine of Torproject.org at the NSA - The Washington Post
thestringpuller: in other news, mircea_popescu can officially get medical marijuana
mircea_popescu: but anyway, for everyone's lolfactor : ion tiriac is a rich romanian banker guy. his son is a retard.
mircea_popescu: coupla years back he was caught with ~3kgs of uncut cocaine in his car, and had his license suspended
mircea_popescu: i guess it's a good thing he didn't try to sell it on silkroad.
mircea_popescu: it'd have taken all of six months and landed him in jail for 800 years on account of it being bought by a dozen different undercover agents working for five or six different agencies.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what i meant was, as long as you have a port open, it's open for nmap too.
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 41 @ 0.45378048 = 18.605 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00084566 = 1.1839 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.13999999 = 2.28 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, has anyone ever looked into ubuntu packaging ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 152 @ 0.00126659 = 0.1925 BTC [+]
pankkake: to download the .debs, you need a downloader
mircea_popescu: it will run just fine w/o wget, and w/o avahi, and without jesus fucking christ.
pankkake: even other distros do require wget
pankkake: ubuntu-standard is windows, certainly, but wget isn't a good example
mircea_popescu: there is no sane reason to require wget for -standard.
mircea_popescu: there's no reason for -standard to depend on the updater being present.
mircea_popescu: people go fucking crazy over "having a car requires you having insurance"
mircea_popescu: then go around putting retarded dependencies in software.
mircea_popescu: the ridiculous thing is, they have the concept of "recommended". not like it's either depend or nothing.
thestringpuller: also the ubuntu updater is based on aptitude no? why not just base something on debian instead of ubuntu?
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 9 @ 0.45 = 4.05 BTC [-]
Duffer1: thestringpuller how's cookies going?
ozbot: Remains of Doma: Photo
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 25000 @ 0.00024884 = 6.221 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3300 @ 0.00024939 = 0.823 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 50 @ 0.45 = 22.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.13999999 = 2.28 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.041 = 0.123 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 33 @ 0.451 = 14.883 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 10 @ 0.45 = 4.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.0401 = 0.1604 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.04001 = 0.2401 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 500 @ 0.000245 = 0.1225 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.07605 = 0.1521 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.04001 = 0.16 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.03986666 = 0.598 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.03726 = 0.1118 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.086 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.035 = 0.525 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.01089999 = 1.0355 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.011 = 0.374 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 850 @ 0.00120354 = 1.023 BTC [-] {6}
ozbot: In the ‘ho’-tel biz: Lauren Silverman’s husband owns Panama ‘prostitute’ palace | New York
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 26 @ 0.006212 = 0.1615 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.14 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.035 = 0.105 BTC [-]
ozbot: We are being watched... : Bitcoin
pankkake: redditors really want to name theymos, thermos
mircea_popescu: "Who else knows about your subversive projects?" herp.
mircea_popescu: in its 10 year history, nothing subversive came out of reddit.
mircea_popescu: in the remainder 5ish years of lifetime it still has, nothing subversive will come out of it.
pankkake: oh I agree with almost much of the hate about reddit
mircea_popescu: spent their time being a shitty network back when everyone used stumbleupon and digg,
pankkake: I used it mostly in its first years, and I was slowly disgusted by it. despicable people who want to believe they're nice (and intelligent, and whatever)
mircea_popescu: so now the contingent of highschoolers are telling each other stories about how cool they are on reddit.
pankkake: there is a saying, redditors are stupid people who try to appear intelligent, while 4channers are intelligent people who try to appear stupid (expect it's probably better said)
mircea_popescu: well to their credit the 4chaners succeed a lot better than the redditards.
pankkake: well, reddit is famous for stealing content. many top posts "my daughter made this" etc. revealed to be fake
pankkake: that's when you realize karma, user moderation is shit
mircea_popescu: turns out there's not an army of competent and dedicated people just waiting for the chance to make nice things for free.
jurov: so what's new about nsa labs except some lame bet?
mircea_popescu: who knew, seriously. and how racist, chauvinist and everything that is.
thestringpuller: you must have had a bad experience with reddit mircea_popescu
jurov: good.. and eulora does have some site?
jurov: i'd like to try newest eulora client, it's somewhere?
ozbot: Eulora August update pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
pankkake: so I tried to make an altcoin (the bernankoin), but I'm stuck. not having bitcointalk doesn't help either
pankkake: no, that must be why it doesn't work!
pankkake: actually I'm stuck at the genesis block, or something like that (but I fixed the problem that is on the altcoin howto, not the one I have now)
jurov: yes... just wanted to explore around
mircea_popescu: server may be down if they're dicking with it tho, so might have to retry later.
pankkake: belize. the country of bitcoin scams
jurov: i can add cherries and trucks and rainbows
pankkake: I've done crappy logos with inkscape
pankkake: oh, the american NSA logo is hard. I wanted to try a parodyw
pankkake: what I would see is NSA, with the A being a flask
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 650 @ 0.00104684 = 0.6804 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: did you run out of pixels or what happened to that a ?
kakobrekla: jurov can you add the rainbows to this?
pankkake: fuck, I did it in in insckape, but pressing esc erased my whole thing
pankkake: no, that's not how it works; esc while I was drawing the unfinished path
pankkake: jurov: lol, I don't even know how to do that
mircea_popescu: that's like the most illegible logo in the history of grafitti.
mircea_popescu: why not just write the letters on top of each other and bne done with it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.14 BTC [+]
ozbot: Sassys Teddys 3 font by Dingfontbats - FontSpace
pankkake: that's even for bizness than trilema's comic sans
jurov: but you can't put them on top of each other
kakobrekla: and a message from our sponsor hypnotoad: buy stock.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [+]
dexX7: mircea_popescu: thanks, great post.
dexX7: not so much information, but nice to read, to continue with my first statement ;)
dexX7: so why are the forums still down? i mean, 90 % of all "job offers" are "i'm a dev etc." posts. is the hole crew so uberleet?
pankkake: looking for how they got hacked so it doesn't happen again?
Kleeck__: Last I read Theymos said they were rebuilding the server and reinstalling the software stack.
dexX7: pankkake: yes, that's the goal. there is a 50 btc bounty for the one who can reconstruct the hack.
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 26 @ 0.45 = 11.7 BTC [-]
dexX7: how wrong this is..
dexX7: actually they do want to liquidate the coins
dexX7: and the best for the community would be to just "lose" them
dexX7: i'm not that interested that stupid fbi guys unload 28k in a market order =D
dexX7: I support the idea that the FBI should set up a Bitcoin faucet to give these back to the community slowly. << well okay, that's a cute idea
pankkake: someone is ddosing a lot of pools
gribble: Current Blocks: 261954 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 125 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 13 hours, 45 minutes, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 188534237.595 | Estimated Percent Change: 26.68677
ThickAsThieves: I support the idea of punishing bitcoiners that assume every situation would be better decided by themselves even though they have no actual authority over or experience in anything
dexX7: what was the "better" pool overview website again?
pankkake: ThickAsThieves: but you can't do anything about it (except create a change.org thing?)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 1.16076923 = 15.09 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 111 @ 0.0115 = 1.2765 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you don't understand the free market man.
ThickAsThieves: opinions are like assholes, some should be explored, most are just shitty
ThickAsThieves: if i were the fbi and saw that change.org crap i'd basically be devising the way to cause the most tears
ChaangNoi: change.org crap? im out of the loop
ThickAsThieves: reddites telling fbi to give SR btc to the 'community'
ChaangNoi: hmm if the fbi kept the btc, the rest of the btc would be worth more...
ChaangNoi: fbi giving the funds to the bitcoinfoundation or whatdver would not look good imo
ThickAsThieves: maybe they should send it to the btc address with the most coins
pankkake: but why would they give it? when they seize usds, they don't give it to the usd community
mircea_popescu: pankkake you don't understand reddit. ask it anything, it'll say the same thing : "i want sum gimme"
ChaangNoi: that seems like it will go no where
Diablo-D3: [07:15:04] <pankkake> but why would they give it? when they seize usds, they don't give it to the usd community
Diablo-D3: the fbi consumes siezed USD as part of their budget
Diablo-D3: thus allowing the fbi to do more on their congressional budget
jurov: good. let's go ask reddit to sign a petition for fbi to invest it into mpoe bonds
pankkake: no, they would ask to bail out labcoin
blastbob1: we can put them into more tor open source development
pankkake: the FBI would never do something as productive as hookers and blow
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 5045 @ 0.00021932 = 1.1065 BTC [+] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 4105 @ 0.00022997 = 0.944 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: so you can have within tor this plaintext protocol which nobody can identify
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 28 @ 0.45 = 12.6 BTC [-]
dexX7: so let's say you cloak and sign traffic with gpg or something like that.. like you do for order transmission. that's what ssl does, right?
dexX7: yes, because it's via a 3rd party
mircea_popescu: not exactly and not just. think about it : gpg requires that i have your public key to send you stuff
mircea_popescu: ssl only requires you have the server's public key. it's thus half a protocol.
mircea_popescu: more importantly, using pgp-style tools you have a dedicated signature identification step. you somehow acquire my signature. such as, from me.
mircea_popescu: in ssl, you acquire it on the basis that a third party says its ok, much like the dns system.
mircea_popescu: the dns system is notoriously insecure, as proven by all the cache poisoning attacks etc.
mircea_popescu: recently google had its domains hijacked and there was jack shit it could do. for like days.
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 19275 @ 0.00021543 = 4.1524 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: in opposition to this, something like scp over keybased ssh would be secure, in the sense you can't read messages.
mircea_popescu: it would still not be anyonymous, which is in general a much harder problem than cryptography. which is why bitcoin is secure but not anonymous, and why tor fails to deliver on anonymity etc.