assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21712 @ 0.00084001 = 18.2383 BTC [-]
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 472.54, Best ask: 473.95, Bid-ask spread: 1.41000, Last trade: 473.78, 24 hour volume: 4830.36694909, 24 hour low: 471.0, 24 hour high: 477.99, 24 hour vwap: 0
gribble: Error: "laeter" is not a valid command.
kuzetsa: [17:42:40] <+cazalla> kuzetsa, are you playing project 99? << oh sorry, I was ingame (everquest... and no, I don't even know what project 99 is)
cazalla: kuzetsa, it's classic type server, expansions slowly roll out
cazalla: perfect if you're of the idea that the game went to shit after velious (greatest expansion ever)
cazalla: have you played archeage yet?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38138 @ 0.00084334 = 32.1633 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: MolokoDesk +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
decimation: asciilifeform: have you ever tried to use the 'perf' utility in linux?
decimation: yeah but perf works on a live software package without interfering too much
decimation: unfortunately it's ability to fully backtrace a particular function is limited
decimation: I wish I could put a computer in my computer so I can run programs while they are running.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5389 @ 0.00084963 = 4.5787 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 230 @ 0.00464054 = 1.0673 BTC [+] {13}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know as a result of the fanfic discussion with kuzetsa it occurs to me : fifty or so years ago, the amateur "thinking man", ie, someone who could read and write and took delight in both, would mostly write (ie, try his amateur hand) science fiction. that is a sort of fanfic to the canon of nature.
mircea_popescu: with the revolution of comfortability, the "same" guy is now writing fanfic to the canon of some derpy author or other, inept substitute for the actual god of the gaps.
mircea_popescu: this is obviously a lot easier to do, it doesn't take nearly as much work to find an exploitable weakness in the "world" predicated by some schmoe working for some us publisher as it takes to find an interesting hole in nature.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8161 @ 0.00084714 = 6.9135 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: for being easier, it's also a lot less interesting, which is why the entire system relies on the walled garden concept : none of these write properly, ie, for the world. they all write for an arbitrarily restricted audience, which makes their task all that easier : athena can turn a single crow black from where it was white. a bunch of sweet singers of michigan can turn a multitude of birds a multitud of colors, and al
mircea_popescu: that pretense is not good, of course, but nor does that matter : they don';t care if their pretense is good, they just want to hold on something. they similarly don't care if their lottery ticket is good, just as long as it's a lottery ticket.
punkman: what's that with the birds and colors
punkman: mircea_popescu: just looked it up
mircea_popescu: they do this sort of thing a lot, keep rewriting the fundamental myths without citation.
mircea_popescu: basically, if you make 500 "separate" literatures, you get 500 people who can all be employed as dante, the theory goes.
mircea_popescu: this is obviously easier than actually writing something good.
mircea_popescu: so thus you have the "universe" of x, y and z. they're all by and large rewrites of themselves, but hey, it pays the bills.
mircea_popescu: in a culture composed mostly of monolinguistic, ignorant twerps, such as the us (or, for that matter, china), it's not even so very hard to do.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 873 @ 0.0007099 = 0.6197 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.17954999 = 3.9501 BTC [-] {6}
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 477.37, Best ask: 477.38, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 477.37, 24 hour volume: 4925.88884078, 24 hour low: 471.0, 24 hour high: 478.0, 24 hour vwap: 0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00084443 = 21.1108 BTC [-]
assbot: Technotronic - Pump Up The Jam - YouTube
cazalla: does anyone know what amount of coins are held in blockchain.info wallets?
mircea_popescu: cazalla generally nobody really knows what amounts are held in any wallets.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, what about blockchain.info specifically, looking at the amount of wallets created and the demographic that uses web wallets, surely it isn't that high and ball parkable figure?
RagnarDanneskjol: if I had to guess, would say between 10-15% of btc in circulation
mircea_popescu: cazalla nobody of any relevance uses weballets as a matter of course.
mircea_popescu: maybe as a temporary measure for small sums, but otherwise, there's no good reason and too much risk.
assbot: Coverage Video | The Sophisticated Investor
cazalla: they use the blockchain.info wallet numbers to project their own growth but who would care if you had 100 million users if they barely had any btc to rub together
mircea_popescu: cazalla you're describing a collection of clueless yet eager beavers.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 265 @ 0.002001 = 0.5303 BTC [-] {4}
gribble: Current Blocks: 319055 | Current Difficulty: 2.7428630902257874E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 320543 | Next Difficulty In: 1488 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 0 hours, 26 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 29033742801.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.85196
mircea_popescu: i wonder what the eventual result will be with that culwick fellow
cazalla: brock the rock wins the bet eh
mircea_popescu: cazalla yes. in the end, "nothing has changed - no prevails" won the day.
assbot: Why Social Engineering Should Be Your Biggest Security Concern
chetty: who taught them what that means?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19230 @ 0.00084029 = 16.1588 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: eh i mean married. i always mix up the two.
kakobrekla: yeah, but then again it depends who the girl is.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1411 @ 0.00070999 = 1.0018 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.179 = 1.432 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.17764285 = 2.487 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.176 = 1.936 BTC [-]
nubbins`: just yelled at a bunch of schoolkids eating pizza subs outside
nubbins`: they were throwing their trash on the ground!
chetty: bet they all march and celebrate on earthday too!
nubbins`: i made one kid come back and pick his trash up after he tried to walk away when i started swearing
nubbins`: chetty i think it's earth hour now
nubbins`: a day was too much of a burden
nubbins`: soon it'll become buy a head of organic lettuce day
mircea_popescu: next it'll be shove a head of brocoli up your ass for the environment
assbot: Well, this socks: Great Dane eats 43 - CNN.com
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gribble: Current Blocks: 319085 | Current Difficulty: 2.7428630902257874E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 320543 | Next Difficulty In: 1458 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 9 hours, 6 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 28979317962.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.65353
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nubbins`: BingoBoingo: more like a mediocre dane
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: True a Great one could have gone for at least double that
nubbins`: you know how many fuckin socks neils bohr could eat?
mircea_popescu: Alas! Lord and Lady Dalhousie are dead, and buried at last,
nubbins`: don't even get me started on hans cristian andersen
nubbins`: you think he wrote all those tales on an empty stomach?
mircea_popescu: The Late Sir John Ogilvy: in praise of Sir John Ogilvy, 9th Baronet, MP for Dundee. "He was a public benefactor in many ways, Especially in erecting an asylum for imbecile children to spend their days."
mike_c: dollar is strong like bull
mike_c: beats up euro with one hand and btc with the other.
kakobrekla: ill take the hand over the horn any time
mike_c: mixed metaphors are the best metaphors.
mod6: this whole "cleanest dirty shirt" stuff is for the birds
mike_c: the argentine peso got the horn.
chetty: <mike_c> the argentine peso got the horn.// ain't it great!!
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> mixed metaphors are the best metaphors. << "mixed metaphores are the best concrete"
kakobrekla: someone should do like short only fund until we hit 1:1.
mike_c: if only there were a forex expert around who could set something like that up
mike_c: your tea leaves think it will keep sinking?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.40896790 BTC to 15`370 shares, 9167 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 9.60239980 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 835 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.0107 = 0.535 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53250 @ 0.00083924 = 44.6895 BTC [-]
assbot: "What is Bitcoin?" silkscreened posters [6/50 left]
nubbins`: heh, [14:40:39] assbot (~assbot@unaffiliated/kakobrekla/bot/assbot) joined the channel.
nubbins`: nod, i squeezed my url in between the quit and join
kakobrekla doest see parts and joins and all that jazz
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1404 @ 0.00071999 = 1.0109 BTC [+] {4}
nubbins`: anyway, if a poster gets bent, blame the post office
nubbins`: sorry, conditions of sale state that you will
mircea_popescu: why is "being propped against a fence" supposed to destroy posters ?
mircea_popescu: or does it have something to do with "proximity of icebox" ?
mircea_popescu: and why is "being taped at a weird angle to a doorknob on a door that for some reason rests by itself in a hallway at an angle" dangerous to posters ?
mircea_popescu: that shot looks like the fucking "alice in wonderland corner test facility"
mircea_popescu: why is it under a chair in the sun ? what is this, the waldo package ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00005009 = 0.5009 BTC [+] {6}
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin difficulty to fall before November"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1040/ Odds: 20(Y):80(N) by coin, 21(Y):79(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.11998 BTC. Current weight: 94,619.
nubbins`: the stairs one, that's how it landed when i threw it :(
nubbins`: chair was a bend-test, i don't keep other packages on the deck so i had to make do with what was around 8)
nubbins`: it was hard to take pictures of me hitting the edges and corners on things, as i don't yet have a selfie wand
mircea_popescu: i am surprised and appalled at the shocking lack of rabbits with this package on their head.
mircea_popescu: so i'm reading up on the darien scheme. while i always suspected the scottish people to be by and large a bunch of useless louts more or less on par with romanians,
nubbins`: next best thing i can do, the cat with a bunch of shit on top of her
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1425 @ 0.00071974 = 1.0256 BTC [-] {4}
[]bot: Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/ Odds: 90(Y):10(N) by coin, 87(Y):13(N) by weight. Total bet: 62.48191626 BTC. Current weight: 45,828.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9726 @ 0.0008366 = 8.1368 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.176 = 1.056 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.1701 = 0.8505 BTC [-] {5}
mike_c: hm, asicminer actually releases a product and stock price sinks?
assbot: [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.17010000 / 0.17781352 / 0.19400000 (74 shares, 13.15820011 BTC), 7D: 0.15000000 / 0.19404829 / 0.27889900 (1014 shares, 196.76496445 BTC), 30D: 0.15000000 / 0.24538999 / 0.34200000 (2477 shares, 607.83099490 BTC)
TheNewDeal: Why does bitbet continue to place house bets?
TheNewDeal: Are those the initial less than .1 bets?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.17025 = 1.0215 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: TheNewDeal: both sides together are always 0.1 btc
jurov: TheNewDeal but pls read after yourself, you're clear as mud
TheNewDeal: But those are the only bets that are considered house bets, or are there additional bets being placed
jurov: no, house bets are only the initial 0.1 ones
mircea_popescu: you generally see two bets on the highest weight, they're the house bets. if there's three, one's the bet proponent zeroconf.
kakobrekla: there cant be 4, but zeroconf can be in front of house bets.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla technically one can make 500 zeroconf bets by sending to the same addy
kakobrekla: zeroconf can be in front of house bets. < this happens if house bets are not confirmed in first block.
mircea_popescu: a it adds it all up ? and what, shows as inbound the most recent ?
kakobrekla: all we care about is the total sum on the address, always.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1024 @ 0.0006552 = 0.6709 BTC [-] {13}
TheNewDeal: Couldn't someone make two bets after the bet was made, and by luck have them confirmed in the same block?
kakobrekla: whatever is in same block is grouped. whatever is in zero conf is grouped.
TheNewDeal: Talking about bets on both sides of course. But I'm done speculating here
kakobrekla: its a different address for different side
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal a block has to ellapse between when bet is proposed and when it's accepted. for this reason the poster's counter bet would come out in a different weight from his zeroconf
assbot: KnCMiner Announces $14 Million Series A Funding Round
assbot: Man made 180,000 from online betting scam, court is told (From York Press)
mircea_popescu: yeah, i don't want to buy their products myself, but i'd rather be long than short knc i think.
gribble: ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 4 hours, 6 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <ThickAsThieves> oh great now youre gonna tell my wife this.
mircea_popescu: hmm, any of the gamblers in attendance care to point me to a respected gambling blog ?
jurov: ben_vulpes: why the artificial limit of 0.0015 for van?
mircea_popescu: Welcome to the Two Plus Two Poker Blogs Posted: February 25th, 2008, by Two Plus Two o.O
mike_c: 2+2 is the best gambling forum. not so much blog.
assbot: Tony Ansell | Sports Betting Advice | Tony Ansells Blog
mircea_popescu: im shocked there's no trilema of gambling, seriously. considering the piles of interest and the shit on tap, minimal ability would prolly earn someoine a living with less work than a college degree requires.
mike_c: gambling is a bit broad for a blog. you interested in sports, poker, other?
mircea_popescu: i wanted to have a few reputed voices look over the berkshire bet for their audience.
mircea_popescu: it's really easy to forget just how shitty google has become over time, for as long as one sticks to obscure topics and generally the long tail.
mike_c: probably some of the big time poker players would be good targets.
mircea_popescu: mike_c tbh i don't care for fit past betting, inasmuch as bitcoin is the bottleneck anyway
mircea_popescu: and besides, i'd rather pay bloggers to write than spend money on "advertising".
mike_c: well, what are you looking for? somebody with a random blog that you could pay to write an article? or somebody important who will write about it if it interests them?
mike_c: i.e. are you looking for coindesk or ascii?
mike_c: if you're looking for somebody smart i'd try to reach out to phil laak. he's a famous poker player who is really into prop bets and has a very smart/analytical mind.
mircea_popescu: mike_c ascii. nothing has changed, i promote the same things, work with the same kinds of people...
mike_c: he has an audience, haven't checked for a blog.
mircea_popescu: to paraphrase a famous assbot saying, i've never been as handicapped by my ignorance as when i started a betting site.
mike_c: although i think he recently fucked himself up in an atv accidant
mircea_popescu: "o i know, let's get all the disadvantages of skateboards, bikes and vans into a nice tight package. tight enough to keep all the advantages at bay"
kakobrekla: grass cutting blades are now propeller hat
assbot: Antonio Esfandiari (MagicAntonio) auf Twitter
FabianB: assbot is identified as german by twitter?
mike_c: he is not related to magicaltux
mircea_popescu: FabianB most people haven't got the memo that slovenakia is not actually a german province anymoar.
mircea_popescu: maybe i fundamentally misunderstand something. such as perhaps the market hates reading.
kakobrekla: such as perhaps the market hates reading. < yup, you have to bash the message by video+audio
mircea_popescu: punkman ok, but his blog 2nd post is in april, "My dad died this morning, smiling up until the end. "
mircea_popescu: if i cast this wide a net i might as well import phantomcircuit.lib and email @internet
punkman: mircea_popescu: yeah I don't really follow his blog. but he's written a bunch on the topic
mircea_popescu: reddit at its finest : "Sports Betting at it's finest - Reddit"
assbot: Articles by Matt Levine - Bloomberg View
mircea_popescu: in other news, the large soros spy put now sits at 2.2 bn
mircea_popescu: fittingly, that hungarian is going to run the dollar into the ground, after having raped the pound.
mircea_popescu: even icahn noticed yellen is about as clueless of financial matters as obama of politics....
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assbot: Half of young women unable to locate vagina and 65% find it difficult to say the word - Health News - Health & Families - The Independent
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "20% difficulty increase before 2015"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1036/ Odds: 43(Y):57(N) by coin, 42(Y):58(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.43303586 BTC. Current weight: 94,845.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00083361 = 7.0023 BTC [-]
assbot: Dreadnoughtus: A New Dinosaur Discovery - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.18832812 = 1.13 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: Charges: Minn. Man Ejaculated In Co-Workers Coffee « CBS Minnesota
cazalla: i wonder if that's more common than you think
TheNewDeal: "oh don't worry, it's a minnesota welcome"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12212 @ 0.00083352 = 10.1789 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00083314 = 7.1233 BTC [-]
TomServo: she said "I knew it." ... wtf.
TheNewDeal: next week: "Starbucks has record sale with new flavor - Tampered coffee"
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 489.0, Best ask: 490.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 490.0, 24 hour volume: 10780.61801125, 24 hour low: 471.04, 24 hour high: 497.0, 24 hour vwap: 484.03328394
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 734 @ 0.00070006 = 0.5138 BTC [-] {6}