assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00086647 = 13.127 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.485 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.481 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.48011113 = 0.9602 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "Alienation of Affections and Criminal Conversation lawsuits are allowed in North Carolina to preserve the sanctity of marriage and the institution of the family. It is estimated that over 200 alienation of affection cases are filed in North Carolina each year."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18272 @ 0.00086576 = 15.8192 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 23 @ 0.0055 = 0.1265 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48012 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (551 shares, 3.03050000 BTC), 7D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (4376 shares, 24.06800000 BTC), 30D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (35395 shares, 194.67250000 BTC)
mircea_popescu: ahaha it just occured to me... do the utah nsa people wear special blessed underwear ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform listen maybe im geometrically challenged, but!
mircea_popescu: the silo + 9 tanks 1st picture is not contradicted by the silo + 9 tanks last picture in that scroll ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18450 @ 0.0008685 = 16.0238 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: it would seem to me it's not possible for both snaps to represent the same solid.
benkay: mircea_popescu yeah on state machines ;)
mircea_popescu: . Recently, our classified NSA Oak Ridge facility made a stunning breakthrough that is leading us on a path towards building the first exaflop machine (1 quintillion instructions per second) by 2018. This will give us the capability to break the AES-128 encryption key
mircea_popescu: also afaik aes-128 is something to the tune of 10^40 ?
mircea_popescu: in which case exaflop is not particularly useful in any sense
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> also afaik aes-128 is something to the tune of 10^40 ? // what do you mean ?
mircea_popescu: im a phb not a tech see. i think in practically useful terms :D
Apocalyptic: <asciilifeform> i thought it was strange that your first thought was in base-10... // that's what confused me yeah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00299999 = 0.75 BTC [+] {2}
MisterE: When will it test 500 already? Waaah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000198 = 0.198 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw if it wasn;t obvious, base 10 because of the exaflops.
mircea_popescu: MisterE you know there's a lot of people with no bitcoins because they decided they will buy if it goes under X and it never did.
MisterE: mircea_popescu: I'm a minnow though
MisterE: I personally feel like interest in LTC is waning
MisterE: hasrate has not been stable
MisterE: yea I was banned from #bitcoin the day doge launched for saying "it will be disruptive"
MisterE: falling hashrate is a really bad thing for your currency though
kakobrekla: did ya mean disturbing instead disruptive?
MisterE: it's like when the sex goes in a relationship, the writing on the wall
mircea_popescu: MisterE hashrate fell for bitcoin on multiple occasions.
mircea_popescu: tho one could fill a hard-drive with the drivel of the various speculators who knew shit on the topic at the time(s)
MisterE: thought it was a straight march up
benkay: ultimately we come back to the personal responsibility thing
MisterE: benkay: I'm American you'll need to explain that to me
MisterE: what is this responsibility thing you speak of?
MisterE: mircea_popescu: I'm not waiting to get in at 500 I'm wanting to see if support at 500 is broken how low it can go
kakobrekla: So a "serious" exchange only offers "serious" coins? By what criteria does a coin count as serious? The answer to this question is bound to be controversial, but note that dogecoin has:
kakobrekla: Trade volume rivaling that of litecoin
kakobrekla: Whatever may be said against dogecoin, the fact is that it has gained traction very rapidly and become a very serious coin for trading. Why wouldn't a serious exchange want to offer it? We are after all in the trading business.
pankkake: it had more real usage than litecoin ever did
mircea_popescu: the reason a serious exchange does not want to offer a scam is contained in the expression "serious exchange"
pankkake: the mistake is to take litecoin as "serious"
mircea_popescu: otherwise the arguments presented could have been presented by any scam to date, and in fact were so presented
mircea_popescu: starting with the "forum bankers" listing pirate "securities" on glbse
kakobrekla: supporting altcoins just gives you a lot more low net worth retards to deal with
pankkake: which is the exchange in question?
Duffer1: is it that vault of satoshi thing the redditers are talking about?
kakobrekla: they brought forex to bitcoin or something remember
pankkake: they have xrp, they have ven… doge is more serious already
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00087086 = 11.147 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: I really need to start paying more attention to MMA matchups. There's a decent fight tomorrow and I totally missed the chance to submit a Bitbet.
BingoBoingo: Great upset potential as well, would have been a great bet to take both sides on.
benkay: some days i wonder if learning how to gamble effectively is +ev or not...
pankkake: by definition it should be, otherwise it isn't effective?
benkay: you're a landlord, not a startup.
BingoBoingo: benkay: It's less learning how to gamble and more trying to spot pricing errors and finding patterns. One pattern I have found profitable is if betting against Serena Williams would multiply your bet by 12 or less in a certain match, there's prolly a fuckton of money to be had.
benkay: i just doubt i'd do much better than stochastic bouncing around, pankkake - much like gamblers or traders. up one day, down the next; cognitively biased against tracking returns etc. it's a goddamn emotional shitshow is what it is.
pankkake: well, I guess it depends on the gamble. I'd agree that most things gamblers and traders think as skill isn't
BingoBoingo: Wait for lines that don't seem priced right, still lose a lot and hope EV come.
pankkake: maybe one of my submitted bets will actually turn out to be the crazy option :)
pankkake: not necessarily, you get the unlikely house bet to your name
pankkake: I didn't know that when I started creating bets though!
pankkake: there's a good mpoe-pr post about it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 50 @ 0.00339999 = 0.17 BTC [-]
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bitcoinpete: The single post, hot off the press, is quite relevant to #bitcoin-assets, or at least referenced
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Duffer1: " I can’t separate out the signal when there’s that much noise." i had that exact conclusion a couple months ago
BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: I think you've got your Middle America metaphore flipped around. Buffet chooses Omaha for a reason.
mircea_popescu: that scary moment when you google a word that you know means ho and you discover that as far as google knows, the only instances it was ever used are on your blog.
kakobrekla: lets see some more posts before we conclude this is not trolling!
mircea_popescu: let us conclude this is not trolling now and then be butthurt later
kakobrekla: imma get some buttcoins if we plan to get butthurt
mircea_popescu: come to think of it : buttecoin. proof of work ? collapsed buttes.
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taub: whats the latest update with gox?
taub: no coins or fiat out?
lnovy: like every year...
BingoBoingo: What's the prevailing market rate for Buttcoins nao? 25 Gox BTC or 0.035 BTC sound right (price adjusted upward because writing implements are overdone, into the future buttchugging hotsauce is the new standard)
kakobrekla: BingoBoingo lets wait for some beggars to come in and try to get a quote
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Sure. I've got coin from Betting against Serena to devote to some lols.
BingoBoingo: I know mircea_popescu suggested peppers, but with skin intact, much of the entertainment isn't going to leave the pepper.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know, the asshole is the strongest dessicant known on earth.
BingoBoingo: Of course. It is why you need a good oil based lube. KY just dries too fast.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1001 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: It is, that is why it makes such an effective irritant.
mircea_popescu: right. well... i guess you'll have to peel the peppers.
KRS-One: what do you think of the sphincter as a hole?
BingoBoingo: That, might be more painful than the sauce, because liquid is going to stimulate a bowel movement in short order. Probably before they can get a picture. Then it is done. A peeled pepper is going to get crushed by an anus and I imagine would linger longer than the sauce would have.
Duffer1: i'm not sure i'm prepared to click that
Duffer1: everything went better than expected
BingoBoingo: According to the Serena Williams principal I'm going to suggest an interesting sweat tomorrow might come from betting Sara McMann to beat Ronda Rousey, IF you can find an appropriate venue to do so (Sorry for dropping the ball on proposing a BitBet)
lnovy: mircea_popescu: prague, I think I know even where...
lnovy: very old photo thou
lnovy: that my fatherland! yeah :)
BingoBoingo: Goldman offers non-answers and suggests problems that are actually well documented non-problems. Either the Janitor is answering questions or they don't want to admit they are buying coins.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00086725 = 5.4637 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i don't remember the last time a bank released something intelligent.
mike_c: "there is no liquid derivative market for Bitcoin" only because of gox!
BingoBoingo: I think all of the incentives are to favor releasing unintelligent things.
mike_c: until they get the coins they want, then it will be the best thing since sliced bread
mircea_popescu: generally you can tell who they're affraid of by checking who they don't mention.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: No, they will sowly turn positive.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.50499997 = 2.02 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: But yeah, the lack of mentions of actual derivatives markets highlights their fears.
chetty_: mike_c: did you get Eulora running?
mike_c: no, that seg fault stopped me
mike_c: otherwise i would be crafting, not chatting :D
mike_c: ubuntu.. very recent version
chetty_: did you compile or just run? binary should work - was compiled on 12.04
mike_c: just ran it. got CS from the v0.0.1 bundle
chetty_: try running client directly, not from launch - ./euclient see what happens pls
mike_c: will do, but that box is in the office so it won't be til monday.
mike_c: i tried, but since it crashed i had to work..
mike_c: anyways, i'm the boss :)
mircea_popescu ponders whether he should mention the even much cooler thing for the NEXT update
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 450 @ 0.00086725 = 0.3903 BTC [-]
mike_c: we just got this build. gotta save something.
mircea_popescu: i recall someone saying they run windows at some point
mike_c: i'm on it right now. i looked at compiling it, but gave up reasonably quickly. looked like i would have to modify jamconfig pretty heavily.
mike_c: there is supposed to be a command with jam that will generate a VC workspace, but it didn't work.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I imagine if I ran a cube farm somewhere I'd have everyone's terminal set up to report that it was running Windows 95 release and Netscape 4.0
mike_c: can't be as bad as a mac that sends the contents of your hard drive to the cloud for you.
mike_c: ;;goodle dorm progesterone
gribble: Error: "goodle" is not a valid command.
mike_c: ;;google dorm progesterone
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no need to look it up, we know why all the boys on reddit sound like girls.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Also relevant to the people catching them. You can catch some large fish downstream from a wastewater treatment facility, but eating them...
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KRS-One: greenspan_fan: Stick with the sushi diet. Pretty soon we will see some pretty interesting sushi dishes due to Fukishima.
Duffer1: r/wicked_edge I would actually recommend
greenspan_fan: the problem w/ reading reddit for self-improvement is, of course, sample bias
Duffer1: how to shave proper with a dual or single edge blade
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 i used to do that, i had a barber using a how you call the things, like a knife
BingoBoingo: It is weird that salmon is one of the newest fish to be used as sashimi and served raw in suchi
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo pretty much my favourite. i used to get premium tuna but now i dont trust it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he means those old things, metal with a screw on handle
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I like that Salmon doesn't live long enough to accumulate the weird shit tuna does.
mircea_popescu: dude, they have how to's about how to tickle the clit these days.
Duffer1: remember the audience though, fatherless kids who think a 5 blade face mutilator is how to shave correctly cause tv said so
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform about 90% of reddit has never shaved with it
BingoBoingo: Ah. Here we have Pacific farmed salmon and Atlantic mostly wild salmon. Usually though I prefer putting up with cooking to enjoy the local freshwater fish though.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00086572 = 2.2942 BTC [-]
greenspan_fan: I'd try using a straight razor but tv has made me think that they will peel off my face
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo im in flatlands, freshwater fish is unedible.
Duffer1: a straight is an enormous amount of work
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Understandable. It really doesn't take much distance to find places from here where that is true.
Duffer1: if you can afford a barber sure, but if you're doing it yourself...
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 what, you think being a barber is like a talent ?
Duffer1: i'm sure it could be, but if you're not doing it yourself then it would be overlly expensive
greenspan_fan: brb, googling for topless shaving fetishist website
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BingoBoingo: I don't think I've actualy shaved, rather than merely trimmed my face in the past year, but I have shaved my head probably 10 times more frequently than I have hard my hair trimmed.
greenspan_fan: I'm thinking that counts as extremely taboo for muslims
BingoBoingo: Oh, the lake better manage to get itseld up to 62 degree sometime this next month.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2878 @ 0.0008667 = 2.4944 BTC [+]
cazalla: tats, peircings, ear plugs, total degenerate
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Namworld: Look at the 21 supported countries.
Namworld: Also some countries are 3 countries, obviously.
Namworld: 3 japans, 3 pakistans, 3 singapores. 2 Australias.
Namworld: There's actually 10 countries in that list.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07020001 = 0.351 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 51 @ 0.07018045 = 3.5792 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.505 = 1.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07249879 = 0.2175 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0701002 = 0.1402 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 23 @ 0.00499998 = 0.115 BTC [-]
cazalla: quit speaking bitcoinanese, you a doge
bitcoinpete: The houseguests have departed and I'm back
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 31 @ 0.00468998 = 0.1454 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Welcome back bitcoinpete, shame you could not party harder and longer this Firday night.
bitcoinpete: They were going to a "show" and there's only so much hearing damage I can take
bitcoinpete: especially since I need to stay nimble for a badminton tournament tomorrow
BingoBoingo: Well, I did mean Firday literally. Yesterday and today's winds left a good portion of one of those Woody bastards on my roof.
BingoBoingo: And yesterday (Thursday) morning after passing out from a mix of Vodka, instant coffee, and concussion I also had that older debris to clear as well.
BingoBoingo: I am rather poor at badminton, but I took a class in college, like most college classes it probably only served to make me worse at the pursuit.
bitcoinpete: I also played badminton in college, scholarship and everything
BingoBoingo: Seriously, if it wasn't for the electric line I would have taken down the rest of the thing myself, sunroom be damned.
BingoBoingo: I just needed PE credits and I did power walking and though how hard can badminton be?
bitcoinpete: For my 2nd degree anyways, badminton is only college here, not uni
bitcoinpete: the higher levels aren't like the backyard stuff
BingoBoingo: I'm going to take a wild guess. Are you an Aussie or a Brit bitcoinpete
bitcoinpete: Plaid-wearing, canoe-rowing, maple syrup-chugging
BingoBoingo: Nah, the definition that Google should turn up first.
BingoBoingo: White trash, prisons everywhere. But Chicago so more prisons than other white trash regions.
bitcoinpete: Chicago's great to visit, I hear it's terrible to live in
BingoBoingo: The nice compromise that comes with being close to St Louis while still being on the Illinois side of the river is you get to be further from Chicago without having to deal with scorpions.
bitcoinpete: I'll visit St Louis after I visit Savannah GA, Washington DC, Nashville, Cincinnati, maybe even Detroit.
BingoBoingo: Sounds like a decent order to do things in. Detroit will make St Louis (even East St Louis) look like paradise.
BingoBoingo: The missouri scorpions aren't too bad though.
BingoBoingo: They leave a welt a lot bigger than any bee does, but they don't do anything life threatening.
BingoBoingo: Missouri scorpions only present a problem in that they can live nearly anywhere. So 9999 times out of 10000 you can touch shit on the ground, but that one time... world of pain.
BingoBoingo: My introduction came though when I was going to Mizzou and one of those fuckers came into my apartment in the middle of summer while I was sleeping, and I guess I tried to swat it off my ass or something.
BingoBoingo: Swatted it and smashed it into the covers (only evidence it was a scorpion was the parts intact. Didn't completely wake up then, but... When I woke up I couldn't sit.
bitcoinpete: So BingoBoingo what do you do with Bitcoin? Other than hang out with this gang
BingoBoingo: I blog some too, but I've been neglecting the blog for two long (a few weeks)
BingoBoingo: I was lucky to come into the space when ASIC in general looked like scams but GPUs didn't look promising either.
BingoBoingo: So late 2012 I started trying to get some without buying it (huge mistake when they were trading for $4-6)
BingoBoingo: I made decent BTC through early 2013 abusing altcoins and betting, but seeing how fast shit was rising made the mistake of cashing out too readily because I wasn't as read in trilema as I could have been.
BingoBoingo: I hang out here because during the great fork of March 2013 people here made more sense than people in -dev did.
BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: What brought you into Bitcoin?
bitcoinpete: I first heard about BTC in late 2011 at $0.90 and misunderstood it as a PayPal competitor
bitcoinpete: 1.5 years later, after reading more economics, finance, philosophy, risk management, and I finally got it
BingoBoingo: I first hear of it in 2009 and mistunderstood it as some Derp distributed computing project.
BingoBoingo: Well, everyone gets here later than they wish they did.
BingoBoingo: Even Hal Finney wishes he would have made Bitcoin instead of Beta testing it.
bitcoinpete: True. I'm glad I moved when I did. I look around at the "successful" people in my community and none of them are even close to getting it
BingoBoingo: And that is where 10-100 thousand dollar bitcoin comes from in part.
bitcoinpete: Just like they didn't get Apple in the late 90's and Twitter before the turn of the last decade
BingoBoingo: Well to be fair, apple could have completely died anytime in the 90's
bitcoinpete: Not too iffy for me to buy a bunch of AAPL
bitcoinpete: If you could call Bitcoin a technology, it would be the 3rd after Apple and Twitter that I was in the first 1%. Not on my CV, I swear
BingoBoingo: Well, in 2004 freshman year of college I put extra financial aid dollars into buying Sun Microsystems stocks, so I have little room to criticise anyone.
chetty_: I doubt even 'oldtimers' here really grasp what bitcoin is .. or where it might go
BingoBoingo: Definitely, the oldtimers seem to understand Bitcoin the least.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.505 = 2.02 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: ;;later tell mircea_popescu nu ye legūma ka porkul
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00469975 = 0.2162 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: If you are ok with losing that much maybe jsut offer ROTC and Afghanistan
greenspan_fan: "A people that sells its own children is more condemnable than the buyer; this commerce demonstrates our superiority; he who gives himself a master was born to have one." -- Abraham Lincoln
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4276 @ 0.00086737 = 3.7089 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00086663 = 5.3731 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00086737 = 5.4211 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00086523 = 5.9701 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Oh, Kiev seems like it is on the market nao.
chetty: Venezuela is sounding nasty
BingoBoingo: Yeah. Venezuala, Thailand, and Ukraine is like the perfect storm for chaos in can whore countries.
chetty: eh the list is longer than that .. they just don't make the news anymore
moiety: Bosnia and Guinea in there too
BingoBoingo: Sure, the Phillipines as well even though their government outlawed the industry.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00086509 = 9.0834 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 234 @ 0.07007092 = 16.3966 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 38 @ 0.0666576 = 2.533 BTC [-] {5}
BingoBoingo: I think I've found a fake book [Prolly scam]//www.betcoinsports.com/faq
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5398 @ 0.00086491 = 4.6688 BTC [-]
MisterE: ya'll probably know already but...
MisterE: Ukraine's capital fell into the hands of the protesters Saturday morning. Without a shot fired, opposition units surrounded and took control of parliament, the Council of Ministers building and most important, the Presidential Administration ...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12746 @ 0.0008646 = 11.0202 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: MisterE: This is how actual revolutions happen, as opposed to the occupy wall street stuff where the only casualties are protesters who get brained by CS grenades.
MisterE: less will die if they are fat and can take more rounds like in the US
Duffer1: weren't dozens killed by snipers?
BingoBoingo: MisterE: Maybe you got the wrong implication out of that statement. The point is for a revolution to happen, the aspiring revolutionaries have to inflict casualties on the force opposing them to drop the qualifier of aspiring.
MisterE: no I got it, the tree of democracy must be regularly watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots and all
BingoBoingo: Basically a protest encampment is worthless. A protest encampment getting owned by the 5-0 is worthless. A protest camp that can put some hurt on the 5-0 however qualifies as a revolution.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00086459 = 13.8767 BTC [-]
MisterE: and a revolutionary is a rebel until they win when they become freedom fighters
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 730 @ 0.0029025 = 2.1188 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.50948698 = 10.1897 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.06299985 = 0.63 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1151 @ 0.00285341 = 3.2843 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14450 @ 0.00086913 = 12.5589 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00087081 = 2.6995 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1900 @ 0.00044516 = 0.8458 BTC [+] {9}
jurov: davout: bitcoinity is "waiting for some serious exchange" lol
davout: for his transparency thing?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 988 @ 0.00082809 = 0.8182 BTC [-]
jurov: What transparency thing? I thought it't for ads.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0047 = 0.1175 BTC [+]
jurov: davout just go there, select any market anf you'll see it.
jurov: That space is usually used for ads and it seems quite lucrative.
davout: yea it's the transparency thingy gmaxwell fished out of the ideasphere
davout: just click on the "serious exchange" thgin
davout: basically an exchange publishes list of accounts+balances+matching signed cold storage
davout: OR sum of asks+matching signed CS
jurov: Oh i see. First time there something completely unrelated flashed so i closed it.
ThickAsThieves: I don't think you're ever gonna see exchanges fully publishing cold wallets
davout: if you have the sum of asks you're not proving you're solvent
davout: if you publish a list of accounts it has serious privacy implications unless done exactly right
davout: AND you can omit accounts selectively
davout: OR you can serve different lists to different people and claim the differences stem out of the different time they were requested at
davout: i'm not saying it's absolutely impossible
davout: but it's harder than what they make it sound
ThickAsThieves: think we're asking two different contexts of the question
davout: ThickAsThieves: i might whip something up quickly
davout: for the sake of the reddit points
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete the cannonical form of that where i'm from is "pasare ca porcu' nu-i."
Jere_Jones: mircea_popescu You still looking to compile something on windows?
Jere_Jones: I don't think I've ever mentioned the os that I use.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29400 @ 0.00087184 = 25.6321 BTC [+] {4}
Jere_Jones: However, yes, my main machine is windows.
Jere_Jones: I'm about to take my daughter to art class. I'd be happy to when I get back. It'll be about 3 hours.
mircea_popescu: i'll be more than happy if i have a compile within a week heh.
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Jere_Jones: Do you just want the binaries or do you want to be able to reproduce it?
mircea_popescu: well since you're doing it keeping notes would be very good, so others can reproduce it or try to if they wish
jurov: ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:ea10c310edc19ca952ab8cdaee3e1d95f150b05f0d08850dda334bf0
gribble: You are now authenticated for user jurov with key 677ABD62D0AEE7D7
jurov: ;;rate random_cat gave him a loan with ltc collateral, all went well
gribble: Error: 'gave' is not a valid integer.
jurov: ;;rate random_cat 1 gave him a loan with ltc collateral, all went well
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user random_cat has been recorded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00087328 = 9.5188 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14391 @ 0.00086567 = 12.4579 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.16230094 = 0.6492 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07244124 = 0.1449 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 240 @ 0.00295585 = 0.7094 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 164 @ 0.0048 = 0.7872 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07243323 = 0.7243 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 15 @ 0.16230094 = 2.4345 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.0629 = 0.8177 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00086726 = 4.5965 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 340 @ 0.00085779 = 0.2916 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1549 @ 0.00279474 = 4.3291 BTC [-] {18}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.98055355 BTC to 2`465 shares, 80347 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00017467 = 1.7467 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 2.17250000 BTC to 86`900 shares, 2500 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3222 @ 0.000174 = 0.5606 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.000174 = 0.87 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00017336 = 0.3467 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 240 @ 0.07328322 = 17.588 BTC [+] {16}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8733 @ 0.00017093 = 1.4927 BTC [-] {15}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0745 = 0.298 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07449999 = 0.745 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.48414211 = 0.9683 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.0745 = 1.1175 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.0745 = 2.235 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0745 = 0.745 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.075 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 30 @ 0.0055 = 0.165 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.075 = 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.076 = 0.912 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.484122 = 0.9682 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0760397 = 0.8364 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1510 @ 0.00086724 = 1.3095 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.48412175 = 1.9365 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.0765 = 1.9125 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.484121 = 1.4524 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0765 = 1.53 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.07692307 = 2 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 450 @ 0.002 = 0.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.077 = 2.156 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 42 @ 0.00339999 = 0.1428 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.08 = 0.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06150511 = 0.123 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.08 = 0.32 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7258 @ 0.00016015 = 1.1624 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.08045454 = 0.885 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.081 = 0.324 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.081 = 3.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.48345022 = 4.3511 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.48114287 = 6.736 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.0849875 = 1.3598 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.00442998 = 0.3588 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 65 @ 0.0894 = 5.811 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 15 @ 0.07400343 = 1.1101 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0908 = 0.1816 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.00278062 = 0.2669 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0908 = 0.5448 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0908 = 1.1804 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.48011113 = 0.9602 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0908 = 0.9988 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0908 = 0.3632 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0908 = 0.1816 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 34 @ 0.0908 = 3.0872 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.48006056 = 0.9601 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.09616665 = 0.577 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.097 = 0.291 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00086752 = 6.3763 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.07400001 = 0.148 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.07316683 = 0.439 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.09763333 = 0.5858 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0984 = 0.492 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0984 = 0.6888 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00086755 = 0.4338 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.09733327 = 0.292 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.098 = 0.196 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00450314 = 0.1261 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.098 = 0.392 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.00278037 = 0.3893 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.09807997 = 0.9808 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0984 = 0.492 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00087074 = 15.7604 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0981 = 0.4905 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0984 = 1.2792 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.09982489 = 9.9825 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.1 = 0.6 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.100001 = 1 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.104 = 0.728 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.10400015 = 1.352 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.104 = 1.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.10966999 = 1.7547 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11 = 0.22 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4849 = 0.9698 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.11 = 0.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 993 @ 0.00081588 = 0.8102 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.11 = 0.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.11 = 0.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.11 = 2.53 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4849 = 0.9698 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4849 = 0.9698 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 132 @ 0.00440163 = 0.581 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.11 = 1.54 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2750 @ 0.00298746 = 8.2155 BTC [+] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.11 = 1.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.11 = 0.88 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 151 @ 0.00424006 = 0.6402 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.48010001 = 1.9204 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.11 = 2.64 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11 = 0.22 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.112 = 0.224 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.112 = 0.224 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.112 = 0.672 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.1135 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.11369999 = 0.5685 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0044 = 0.132 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11541666 = 0.6925 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.1175 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.01937428 = 0.1356 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11003001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02089999 = 0.1254 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.0209857 = 0.1469 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 87 @ 0.00299695 = 0.2607 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.117249 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.11742 = 1.0568 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.1110006 = 0.888 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.111 = 0.999 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14768 @ 0.00087292 = 12.8913 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11739899 = 0.3522 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.11739899 = 0.587 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11742 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 323 @ 0.002997 = 0.968 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11742 = 0.2348 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.11742 = 0.4697 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02129988 = 0.1065 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.1175 = 0.47 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 236 @ 0.00299999 = 0.708 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11739899 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 229 @ 0.003 = 0.687 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.1175 = 0.705 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.118 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.09799165 = 0.294 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.09799251 = 0.49 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 11 @ 0.10297258 = 1.1327 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 17 @ 0.1099794 = 1.8696 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 19 @ 0.11230735 = 2.1338 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 300 @ 0.0004 = 0.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 11 @ 0.12913581 = 1.4205 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.480105 = 0.9602 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11899999 = 0.238 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 161 @ 0.0055 = 0.8855 BTC {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 34 @ 0.13392634 = 4.5535 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 15 @ 0.1358999 = 2.0385 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11899999 = 0.357 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.11899999 = 2.975 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.119 = 0.238 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.11899999 = 0.595 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00087322 = 11.7885 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11739899 BTC [-]