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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.00515382 = 0.4896 BTC [-] {8}
KRS1: bankster
benkay: banksters & co
benkay: excellent btc company name
truffles: banksy?
KRS1: bankster=gangster
KRS1: Gangster Bankers, Inc.
KRS1: Rates you just can't refuse.,
pankkake: 90% ROI (Rate of Incompetence)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41776 @ 0.00085518 = 35.726 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00085595 = 4.023 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Just a reminder. I have court Thursday so if I go missing for a month Occam's razor suggests my location would e the St Clair County Jail.
truffles: u beat some cop at chess?
BingoBoingo: I wish truffles
truffles: we can rematch now if uwant
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.57430693 = 8.0403 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: truffles: Imma be offline soon for the weekend.
truffles: :(
BingoBoingo: I submitted a move though
truffles: ive got white collar on the side so im preped
BingoBoingo: Well.
BingoBoingo: Bb5 was a mistake
truffles: i didnt complain when i made mine _D
BingoBoingo: You just dun know bette ryet.
truffles: u drinking already?
BingoBoingo: 785 ml already
BingoBoingo: Just remembet I take a break as soon as hockey coems on
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.575 = 1.15 BTC [+]
truffles: u mean snail pace
truffles: and it begins
diametric: evening gents
truffles: sigh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00085271 = 8.2713 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.001 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 44 @ 0.00339336 = 0.1493 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 160 @ 0.0052946 = 0.8471 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00529752 = 0.5298 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.00529971 = 0.371 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1696 @ 0.00085271 = 1.4462 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 228 @ 0.00531639 = 1.2121 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00535 = 0.2729 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 36000 @ 0.00008503 = 3.0611 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 489 @ 0.0052507 = 2.5676 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.571 = 2.284 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.57 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.0052 = 0.2496 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.57 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00529998 = 0.2756 BTC [+] {4}
twizt: man i dont understand how timewarner cable stock is so high
twizt: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Time-Warner-Cable-Loses-Another-215000-TV-Viewers-127299
ozbot: Time Warner Cable Loses Another 215,000 TV Viewers | DSLReports, ISP Information
VanCleef: lol fail
twizt: fucking quant easing
twizt: all these fake gains in equities
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 97 @ 0.003395 = 0.3293 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 40 @ 0.005 = 0.2 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00084997 = 5.8648 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.57 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45479 @ 0.00084807 = 38.5694 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.001 = 0.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3263 @ 0.00084499 = 2.7572 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C080T] 5 @ 0.04231494 = 0.2116 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.57 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00084635 = 8.4212 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1392 @ 0.003 = 4.176 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.003 = 0.201 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 533 @ 0.003 = 1.599 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22250 @ 0.00084635 = 18.8313 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 62 @ 0.0034 = 0.2108 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 29 @ 0.00348 = 0.1009 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00349 = 0.349 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 180 @ 0.00387722 = 0.6979 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15789 @ 0.00084644 = 13.3644 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.571 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15432 @ 0.00084644 = 13.0623 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00084603 = 22.2506 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4716 @ 0.00084644 = 3.9918 BTC [+]
frankenmint: hello?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.571 = 1.142 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02980003 = 0.1788 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00084901 = 8.7024 BTC [+]
KRS1: hi
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG.F2] 1 @ 0.599 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10069 @ 0.00085008 = 8.5595 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02630062 = 0.263 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00085008 = 14.3664 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00085217 = 7.2008 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00085217 = 5.113 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00085217 = 7.4139 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7143 @ 0.0008523 = 6.088 BTC [+] {2}
b0n1: https://cloudhashing.com/contracts do you think this is a profitable offer if they offer a bonus of 300 gh fro platinum membership at the enf of january?
ozbot: Bitcoin Mining Contracts - Cloud Hashing
b0n1: is there any big asic shipments coming up or any other reasons to cause unusually increases of the difficulty
b0n1: ?
pankkake: yes, many new generations of mining equipment
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00085294 = 22.347 BTC [+] {2}
b0n1: pankkake dont the new fast asic chips with 2 TH for roughly 6k USD only come about may?
pankkake: cointerra is supposed to delivery a big january batch
pankkake: deliver*
b0n1: how big estimated?
pankkake: hashfast was supposed to deliver months ago; many preorders
b0n1: how many hashes to deliver?
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283820.0 has an estimate of preorders
ozbot: Estimate of ASIC pre-orders: 13 to 15 PH/s (diff 1.8B to 2.1B) by end of 2013
b0n1: thx pankkake really helpful
b0n1: with this perspective, the offer doesnt look that attractive anymore
pankkake: glad to save you some btc :p
b0n1: with an assumption of 20% diff increase we have a break even in 97 days
b0n1: if its 25% we have no break even at all
b0n1: maybe 25% is a bit too much to assume but anyway, its totally risky
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12261 @ 0.00085326 = 10.4618 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7245 @ 0.00085454 = 6.1911 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56999 = 1.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00085501 = 23.5128 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56999 = 1.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00085571 = 4.4069 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: aite, who dinged me
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell benkay well, in the meta sense that setting what and how much clothing chicks wear in your town counts as natality allocation.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: b0n1 currently the money is about 30:1 that difficulty will be over 2bn this month.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16703 @ 0.00085274 = 14.2433 BTC [-] {2}
Neil: mircea_popescu: More like 50-to-1 I think.
Neil: I have to agree it's looking very likely
Neil: Everyone was saying nothing coming online, but it's gone up 25% since 1st Jan
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 458/7
gribble: 65.4285714286
mircea_popescu: 65 even
Neil: I reckon these companies are creating and mining for the house
Neil: ;;calc 358/7
gribble: 51.1428571429
Neil: Math
Neil: No-one seems willing to bet no yet... so probably higher to go
mircea_popescu: o right you are hehe
mircea_popescu: in general people seem to be more like fishing for "the sure thing" than acting strategically.
mircea_popescu: if real odds are 30 and the site shows 50 you're more likely to see people piling on the heavy side i think
Neil: Next diff change looks like ~ 1.82 bn
mircea_popescu: .d
ozbot: 1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 325 blocks | Estimated Change: 23.6009% in 1d 17h 2m 52s
mircea_popescu: more like 1.75 neh ?
Neil: Nah; definitely over 1.8
Neil: I reckon instantaneous diff is ~ 2bn
Neil: (i.e. from instantaneous hashrate)
mircea_popescu: instantaneous hash rate is a myth tho
Neil: I disagree. You can make good estimates of it.
Neil: There is of course quite wild variance, which is where a modicum of skill comes in, but not much
mircea_popescu: but hash rate is "how many times per second did we fail to solve a specified problem"
mircea_popescu: this in principle is infinity.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68100 @ 0.00084821 = 57.7631 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: anyway, sipa's dirty estimator kind-of agrees with you, http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-10k.png
Neil: I track it in a s/s of my own; do my own thing :)
Neil: It's amazing the 25% replacement rate continues.
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
Neil: I wonder if we make 1 exahash/sec this year.
mircea_popescu: at the rate it's going...
Neil: Well, baggsied that as a new proposition, and funded it :)
ThickAsThieves: the Yes bets keep piling up, taking all my hard-earned bettings
Neil: ThickAsThieves: You could always bet No :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64884 @ 0.00084716 = 54.9671 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: weight drops too slowly :(
Neil: Satoshi was quite forward-thinking; clearly saw the possibility of such high difficulties given the FP-like format "bits" is encoded as
mircea_popescu: lol hard earned betting
ThickAsThieves: i'm always hard when I earn
mircea_popescu: you've not earnd till it pays out
ThickAsThieves: premature hardening
Neil: These difficulty bets should have a slightly larger window of closing to resolution than 5 days IMO. It tends to be too obvious then. At least a full cycle (10-12 days) should be the gap.
mircea_popescu: Neil i think our 50:1 bs is misstating the point. a guy betting no only gets 4x his btc
mircea_popescu: and let me point out to you that originally nobody thought there's a chance in hell it reaches 2bn by feb.
mircea_popescu: so the window was ample back when the bet was made.
Neil: True. A guy betting Yes just gets a crumb :)
ThickAsThieves: even now you can throw 50 btc at it and get 3.5btc, but of course that will turn to .35 btc by the time the bet is over
Neil: I think the only one profiting from this bet is bitbet
mircea_popescu: so basically you can either risk 1 btc for 7 cents on one side, or risk 1 btc for 4 btc on the other side
mircea_popescu: this does not equate to 50:1, not really.
ThickAsThieves: basically betting that there's a fork or something
mircea_popescu: if there's a 2 day fork say the no people will make out like bandits.
Neil: 2-day fork, lol.
ThickAsThieves: btcusd would go to 135 again
ThickAsThieves: hehe
mircea_popescu: the march one was what, 18 hours ?
ThickAsThieves: this reminds me
ThickAsThieves: back then, all the pool ops worked together
Neil: Not that long; I was watching it. Perhaps 12.
ThickAsThieves: but now, ghash.io is a big player
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure it was over 12 but under a full day
ThickAsThieves: do they play nice with all the other ops?
mircea_popescu: i find it fitting that the first comment on the largest prop bet in the history of bitcoin is "beware of this scammy website"
Neil: ThickAsThieves: It's still game theory; they'd lose if they piss too many players off. More incentive to be nice I think.
Neil: mircea_popescu: Well let's see if you pay out...
mircea_popescu: i suppose the #1 reason noobs are still being scammed blind is the fact that idiots run arround making false scammer claims all teh time
mircea_popescu: that's a point i guess.
ThickAsThieves: The boy who cried BFL
Neil: Yeah this is about $1.3m now. Insane.
mircea_popescu: Neil that gaming theory has the barb that it workls in reality, not in people's imagination. there's a huge premium on pissing off the right crowd of people.
Neil: Don't understand your 2nd sentence?
ThickAsThieves: After all the reddit scare, I wonder if the pool simply set up a way to anonymize some of its hashing
Neil: ThickAsThieves: That thought occurred to me too.
mircea_popescu: Neil take bitbet. part of its success has to do with me pissing all over the reddit crowd and its sensibilities.
mircea_popescu: basically bitcoin rewards exactly the opposite behaviour that us elections reward.
Neil: mircea_popescu: You're on reddit? Dunno the history there.
mircea_popescu: ;;google bitbet stole
gribble: BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC) - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.0>; BitBet - US Federal Minimum Wage will be raised above $7.25 by ...: <http://bitbet.us/bet/355/us-federal-minimum-wage-will-be-raised-above/>; BitBet - Bitfinex insolvent by end of April: <http://bitbet.us/bet/362/bitfinex-insolvent-by-end-of- (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: read teh first one
Neil: Ah yeah I know that one.
ThickAsThieves: they voted to return the money, why havent you!?
ThickAsThieves: :)
mircea_popescu: because i think their opinion is not worth the shit it's carved in.
Duffer1: lol
Duffer1: voting, that's cute
mircea_popescu: no but see, that's the electoral system. people with no skin in the game vote on how the game should be run
mircea_popescu: then you get the us govt.
mircea_popescu: another way of saying "concern trolling on a planetary scale"
Neil: ThickAsThieves: ghash.io is part itself (cex?) and part individual miners. They could move their own hashing to appear anon. Can't do that with external miners to the pool I think.
ThickAsThieves: i think it's funny that voting is optional
ThickAsThieves: Neil, I'm sure there's a way they could do it
ThickAsThieves: have it all be in the pool
mircea_popescu: they could just solve each block off a different ip.
ThickAsThieves: but not show as such
mircea_popescu: who's to stop them ?
mircea_popescu: even ipv4 cost like 2-300 bucks per c block
Neil: mircea_popescu: Then the pool payouts wouldn't match contributed hashrate.
mircea_popescu: ipv6 are free pretty much
mircea_popescu: neil why not ?
ThickAsThieves: they could sort that too probly
Neil: All GHash.io blocks are stamped that way.
mircea_popescu: no but they just broadcast the block off a new ip each time
mircea_popescu: they can trivially separate broadcasting, what's to keep them
Neil: But then what would they be paying miners with? A miner would notice he got a block and the pool didn't claim it, at some point.
mircea_popescu: i don't follow what you are saying at all.
Apocalyptic: neither do I
Apocalyptic: "A miner would notice he got a block" // how so ?
ThickAsThieves: the goal isnt to hide earnings, its to hide who made them from the public
Apocalyptic: miners just solve shares
mircea_popescu: and all the public has to go on is the very dubious blockchaininfo ip identification
Neil: Apocalyptic: Miners don't know when they got the one that solved it? I'm sure they do.
mircea_popescu: sooo /
ThickAsThieves: its okay for the miner to see what they solcve and get paid bonuses
ThickAsThieves: we only need to mask the source in public
ThickAsThieves: ghash.io is probly at 60%
ThickAsThieves: double-spending selectively
ThickAsThieves: :)
mircea_popescu: lol right
mircea_popescu: double spending selectively some confused dork's unheard of casino site
mircea_popescu: help help.
decimation: hi. I'm a noob to the channel, but I note the conversation shifted to mining - and I was wondering if anyone had experience with kncminer stuff?
VanCleef: i only buy labcoin hardware
ThickAsThieves: didnt kako buy one?
mircea_popescu: decimation you mean running it or what ?
mircea_popescu: i thought kako bought furries
ThickAsThieves: you may be right
decimation: yes. I ordered a "2nd batch" neptune for ~11 btc and I was wondering about the probability it would actually arrive and work would be
Neil: ThickAsThieves: Was that your comment about closing the bet now? hehe
mircea_popescu: afaik knc actually delivers.
ThickAsThieves: Neil, no, hehe
Duffer1: decimation yea knc will deliver, just don't buy any more
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00084527 = 18.0888 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: they may deliver, but will you get 11btc from it....
Neil: lol
mircea_popescu: i'm looking forward to the "bitbet should close all the bets and send all the bitcoins to me plzkthx"
mircea_popescu: i know they're coming.
decimation: yeah, that's the dubious part, they claim 3 TH/s, but the difficulty in 6 months ...
decimation: perhaps I should hedge on bitbet :)
ThickAsThieves: like blockchain beggars
ThickAsThieves: that's a nextgen band name
Duffer1: gambling is not hedging :P
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves in a functioning economy he gets it just in time to mine 10.98x btc off it
ThickAsThieves: The Blockchain Beggars
ThickAsThieves: The Blockchain Beggars Club
pankkake: knc delivers but from what I understand the miners eventually explode
mircea_popescu: pankkake all miners eventually explode. even the radeon ones,
mircea_popescu: and those had like you know, actual qa done on them
pankkake: gpus can be put in microwaves and they're as new!
ThickAsThieves: i sold one of my GPUs for more than I paid for it new
mircea_popescu: or in really really hot girl's snatches
ThickAsThieves: baffled me
mircea_popescu: i read it on reddit so it must be troe
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/712/bitcoin-difficulty-over-5-6b-before-april/ << these'd look a lot better seeded the other way lol
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty over 5.6B before April
KRS1: https://bitcoinstarter.com/projects/85
ozbot: Bitcoinstarter - Bitcoin Crowdfunding | PeerCover
Neil: 5.6bn is quite high; could easily miss on the downside there
mircea_popescu: so we got 2bn end of jan, 5.6 bn end of march, 14bn july 14th
mircea_popescu: sounds legit
Neil: July looking like the outlier
Neil: too low
KRS1: what do you guys think of that?
ThickAsThieves: come March, itll be petahashes added through the day
mircea_popescu: KRS1 "yet another tranny thinking he's a woman / guy with dreamweaver thinking he's a coder / guy with a student loan thinking he's a financier making some dumbass social platform tht won't go anywhere and he won't stop talking about"
KRS1: i have no idea how you can insure a bitcoin wallet.
mircea_popescu: but that's just me.
KRS1: huh..its wallet insurance
Duffer1: i don't see how it will be used for anything other than scamming
mircea_popescu: no it's not. it's a website and a dumbass.
KRS1: hmm..ok
mircea_popescu: or a dumbass and his website, or a website and its dumbass or however this works.
Neil: I don't get it.
ThickAsThieves: dont bother
Neil: But then I'd have said that about bitcoin back in 2009
mircea_popescu: yes well just because we found a black swan is no reason to go looking for black lions.
mircea_popescu: the apex predator in africa is blond and that's that.
KRS1: is it even possible to provide wallet insurance and successfully make a profit?
Neil: Wouldn't be surprised to see 2bn difficulty bet could get to 1500 total. Would that be a record?
mircea_popescu: KRS1 does it work irl ? anyone insure wallets ?
KRS1: i cant see how
KRS1: there is a new offering from the U.K. for that
Neil: KRS1: Only in a controlled and verified env I suspect.
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ that's the prev record
ozbot: BitBet - BFL will deliver ASIC devices before March 1st
decimation: one can purchase jewelry insurance in the US
mircea_popescu: ~1690 btc
Neil: Ooh, that'd be tough
ThickAsThieves: Black lion: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_heeghxjKZE/T9fI6Cqtn7I/AAAAAAAACVE/OZADVRPqecw/s1600/Black%2Blion%2Bin%2Bmud.jpg
KRS1: maybe thats why the U.K. offering is hosted on AWS
mircea_popescu: i knew that'd turn into a challenge :D
KRS1: ok well I'll leave you guys alone..thanks anyway.
mircea_popescu: decimation yes, but not against "i accidentally flushed it down the toilet" scenarios
Neil: I give it 60% chance of getting to 1690. The leeches will come in in about 1 week (on either side) when the outcome will be clear, even to scrape a 2%
Neil: If it veers to no, I hate to think how big the bets become
mircea_popescu: srsly, if there's a sudden gulp and it looks like no have the upper hand...
mircea_popescu: whoa nelly.
Neil: bitbet's Jan earnings should be good
mircea_popescu: maybe some dork manages to send a donation bet for whatever, 5k btc
mircea_popescu: prolly the sort of thing i deserve for my hybric nature.
Neil: The difficulty is known at the block prior to the block with the new difficulty (it's a 2015 block window). So theoretically bets in the period of the 2016th block should be refunded.
Neil: trivia
ThickAsThieves: heh
decimation: http://www.perfectcircleinsurance.com/PerfectCircle/media/MediaLibrary/Images/content/Perfect-Circle-Jewelry-Insurance-Sample-Policy.pdf
decimation: There is an example jewelry insurance policy
KRS1: hmm
decimation: they insure against loss; not intentional loss
KRS1: yeah i dig it but...its not a bitcoin wallet.
KRS1: its easier to lose or flush down the toilet..wondering how peercover will do this
decimation: Indeed, the risks are obviously much greater for a btc wallet
KRS1: i bet the said wallet has to be hosted on their platform or something
decimation: and there are not any actuarial tables
Neil: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty
KRS1: and under 2btc for $X plan
Neil: "Here's a fast way to calculate bitcoin difficulty" folllowed by lots of spaghetti from Amir.
Neil: There's a much faster way that uses no logs or bignums...
mircea_popescu: decimation the argument could be brought that all loss of a bitcoin wallet is intentional.
mircea_popescu: Neil afaik that site/article is 1-2 years out of date throughout
Neil: The facts are right I think; the code sucks.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24937 @ 0.00084499 = 21.0715 BTC [-]
Neil: Though he doesn't mention the 2015 block peculiarity
mircea_popescu: the only actual datapoints are the block timestamps.
mircea_popescu: given the nature of hashing these can only be extrapolated into a hash estimate, which may vary arbitrarily much from the real value
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 290 @ 0.00514406 = 1.4918 BTC [-] {9}
diametric: morning
diametric: afternoon or evening I suppose.
KRS1: hey
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.10739999 = 1.074 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.53619775 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 68 @ 0.00538578 = 0.3662 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5749999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.001 = 0.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5749999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.5783333 = 3.47 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.0053828 = 0.3122 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.0053828 = 0.2261 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5749999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00513209 = 0.5132 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.0051512 = 0.3091 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 290 @ 0.00511562 = 1.4835 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31092 @ 0.00084566 = 26.2933 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 1757489193.24 based on data since last change | 2051188187.74 based on data for last three days
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00084412 = 3.7141 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 100 @ 0.005 = 0.5 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5875 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 210 @ 0.00048924 = 0.1027 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 250 @ 0.005 = 1.25 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/more-about-caesar-cyphers/#comment-97491 << the mystery solved.
ozbot: More about Caesar cyphers pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: apparently my mistake was thinking the mobsters can spell.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 2.17250000 BTC to 86`900 shares, 2500 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2148 @ 0.001 = 2.148 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.0008455 = 11.4565 BTC [-]
the20year: Anyone want to take a look at this next revision of the RentalStarter biz plan?
truffles: must be amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
the20year: :D
the20year: Started with 12 pages, it's now 26
the20year: My goal there is to keep showing new revisions, asking for feedback on things people want answered, and add it to the next one
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.00297 = 0.2079 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04999999 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00296 = 0.74 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.04999999 = 0.65 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11453 @ 0.00084572 = 9.686 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29674 @ 0.00084506 = 25.0763 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.58743333 = 1.7623 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: hi
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.5876625 = 2.3507 BTC [+] {3}
the20year: hi
nubbins`: what's new
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 92 @ 0.00295208 = 0.2716 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04999999 = 0.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22973 @ 0.00084418 = 19.3933 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47677 @ 0.00084324 = 40.2032 BTC [-] {3}
the20year: just working on this rentalstarter biz plan
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00510002 = 0.1275 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 100 @ 0.005 = 0.5 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02996999 = 0.2997 BTC [-]
b0n1: hey guys! I remember there will be a bitcoin conference in romania beginning for 2014, right?
b0n1: when is it and where can I register?
b0n1: for=of
Duffer1: ;;google 2014 romanian bitcoin conference
gribble: 2014-03-06: Texas Bitcoin Conference - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=363816.0>; Meetups - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=86.0>; Bitcoinvention - the First Bitcoin Conference in Asia - PRWeb: <http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11250158.htm>
KRS1: ta daaa
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00521992 = 0.4698 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00084756 = 7.1195 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04999999 = 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02640021 = 0.2376 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 14 @ 0.0264002 = 0.3696 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 65 @ 0.00345822 = 0.2248 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02650002 = 0.2385 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i dont think theres one correct link there
kakobrekla: b0n1 : trilema.com/2013/the-conference-second-edition/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00523 = 0.2406 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04999999 = 0.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00084437 = 17.1407 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: are there any smart smoke detectors avail?
ThickAsThieves: Nest
ThickAsThieves: https://nest.com/smoke-co-alarm/life-with-nest-protect/
ozbot: Life with Nest Protect | Nest
pankkake: oh, that is interesting. I came home and the detector was beeping
kakobrekla: hm that could work
pankkake: took me some time to actually understand that was the detector
kakobrekla: im getting paranoid my office is going to end up in fire for some reason
kakobrekla: must be all these cheap monitors
pankkake: I hope it didn't annoy the neighbors too long…
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: phun phact: you can still buy Halon.
kakobrekla: was dat
pankkake: I have a vacuum tube amplifier, I think it's going to explode eventually
kakobrekla: i have ecc88 preamp too
pankkake: oh, halogen lamps? I'm never having one near me again
asciilifeform: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halomethane
ozbot: Halomethane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
pankkake: when I was a child, one exploded, and it started a fire on my bed
asciilifeform: best fire extinguishing agent ever invented
asciilifeform: works without displacing oxygen.
pankkake: made a small hole on the sheets
asciilifeform: semi-banned by enviro-whiners. but still obtainable.
kakobrekla: hm
kakobrekla: why do i have a feeling this would reqire lots of diy
asciilifeform: you can buy halon bottles with self-opening valves (smoke detector)
asciilifeform: or ordinary fire extinguishers filled with it.
asciilifeform: the enviro-whiner substitute for halon, 'halotron', is considerably less effective and more poisonous.
kakobrekla: hmyea
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00084481 = 12.6722 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 64 @ 0.00524945 = 0.336 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: vacuum tubes amps dont really explode
ThickAsThieves: not that ive experienced
ThickAsThieves: ive heard tubes pop
ThickAsThieves: but nothing dramatic
b0n1: we are 3 people, do i have to pay 10 BTC for every single person for the conference?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02650002 = 0.2385 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02650002 = 0.2385 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00084529 = 12.1722 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 14 @ 0.02650001 = 0.371 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: b0n1 ?
kakobrekla: if you are vip you pay something like 1k eur or usd or whatever
kakobrekla: if you are not you dont pay anything
kakobrekla: at least that how i get it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 165 @ 0.0051113 = 0.8434 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 99 @ 0.04999999 = 4.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2534 @ 0.000084 = 0.2129 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.55770301 BTC [-]