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pankkake: so no serious answer! are you afraid to admit you're using excel?
mircea_popescu: me ? i don't have excel.
pankkake: general inquiry
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Paper spreadsheets
BingoBoingo: For maximum airgap
mircea_popescu: http://newspaper.li/static/eeeb21dede2e0a0125169d9398022867.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0028828 = 0.5766 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: i'm doing reports in perl
KRS1: thats what its fo! i love perl
lippoper: yeah
lippoper: perl lol
pankkake: why run? I'm thinking I'd do pretty much the same
BingoBoingo: I'm kind of curious if any line betting operations are going to fold up tomorrow morning.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 15 @ 0.0242 = 0.363 BTC [-]
jurov: BingoBoingo: why?
lippoper: any profitable mining shares?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 17 @ 0.02419623 = 0.4113 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: mining and profitable don't mix so well
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 27 @ 0.00644996 = 0.1741 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: jurov: Because so many people are betting on Auburn. Auburn is given odds that make it a great value pick. Since most BTC line betting operations pull lines off of USA Today instead of letting odds play on their own and collecting their vig, if Auburn wins I imagine at least a few won't be able to pay winnings.
BingoBoingo: I imagine such a black Tuesday outcome would be great publicity for BitBet though.
mircea_popescu: interesting point.
mircea_popescu: i would imagine all of them strictly consist of one derp, his .5 btc budget and his dreams and aspirations
mircea_popescu: in which case some nice bandwagon effect would probably do what you say sooner or later
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I've been putting money on Auburn at as many books as I can that haven't been rather conclusively labeled scam yet. Cheaper exercise than the one you did with Patrick Harnett.
mircea_popescu: yeah well... it's easily forgotten that at the time the replacement cost of 500btc was like five grand
BingoBoingo: Well... Yeah. As the years go on though the relative impressiveness of the story will grow simply because n00bs can't remember single dollar digit btc.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.12699999 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: perversely, a good investment in more ways than one
mircea_popescu: noobs also don't remember the entire "btc rating agency" bullshit coming out of his inflamed brain, and consequently don't remember reason #5498045986 why bitcoin didn't go to shit before they had a chance to hear of it.
BingoBoingo: Well, yeah. Breaking one of the "big guys" and firmly placing yourself as the bigger and more solvent guy
jurov: http://www.casinobitco.in/bet-ncaa-football for example
jurov: it's there but i never did line betting, what does this mean?
jurov: there's 4.2BTC bet on?
mircea_popescu: jurov line betting vs mutual betting is like bucket shop vs stock exchange. in the line model all trades are against the house.
jurov: i know how it works
mircea_popescu: it's as if anyone buying shares bought from the nyse itself, and anyone selling sold to nyse itself
mircea_popescu: and nyse came up with an arbitrary price each morning
jurov: but am interested how to read the stats
mircea_popescu: stock generation style
mircea_popescu: a
BingoBoingo: jurov: It means an Auburn win returns roughly quadruple your initial bet. Looks like similar odds I've been buying, but I've heard that site was scam already.
mircea_popescu: basically it's what you make in each case
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i love it how they never advertise their house limit, too
mike_c: 11 point spread and 4.2 money line? that does sound attractive.
mircea_popescu: i imagine if someone sends 10k btc on their stated odds all sorts of fun ensues.
jurov: they certainly have some limit
mircea_popescu: link to it :)
BingoBoingo: +320 on Auburn means you would win 320 dollars on a 100 dollar ticket. -380 on Florida State means you would win 100/380 on your 100 dollar ticket
mircea_popescu: such ignorant notation too. negative and fractional, same thing. blergh
BingoBoingo: mike_c: There are much better probably scam sports books out there
mike_c: hah. the vegas line is +295.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: I wouldn't take the spread though. On value bets liek this ML tends to be better in the long run
mike_c: no bitbet
mike_c: too many nerds on bitbet for football
BingoBoingo: mike_c: I did the bitbet too on both sides, but they are closed
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/672/btc-will-hit-1000-without-dropping-to-100/#c2235
ozbot: BitBet - BTC will hit $1000 without dropping to $100
BingoBoingo: mike_c: I wrote this one http://bitbet.us/bet/650/florida-state-to-win-bcs-national-championship-low/
mircea_popescu: i love the bbet commenters every time
mike_c: so looks like it got one bet other than you
mike_c: i agree with mp, once football bets are popular on bitbet we will know the gold rush is over.
mircea_popescu: certainly not this silliness where bitbet lays a quarter million bucks on any diff bet easy,
mircea_popescu: and you struggle to get 1k together on football prime time events
BingoBoingo: mike_c: I don't know if they will ever be too popular. The problem of tracking a whole season seems better suited to bucket shops and line betting operations. Marquee events and championships that can get traffic though should do better on the BitBet model though.
jurov: i dunno, i can easily imagine football junkies prefer betting where they know the win in advance
BingoBoingo: Sports betting I've come to see is kind of a niche market.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ideally it evolves as an exchange (ie, a myriad actually honest operators do line betting and promotion, and then meet on bitbet and hedge in a liquid market)
jurov: even if mutual may be more profitable, effective, intelligent etc.
BingoBoingo: Maybe even more navel gazing than bitcoin.
mike_c: yeah, all those prop bets with terrible odds at the bookie would be much better on bitbet like "team to win the championship" or super bowl props.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure, but given how often the gambling type (the kind who are so quick to forgive SealswithClubs for their hack) go for the familiar over the good it might be a decade. At least Bitcoin has plenty of time to fix this.
mike_c: and bitbet is welcome for the audit :) my fee is 0.061 btc.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no but the idea is, the ops themselves have more of a clue. obviously as it is now, every failed seo expert/14 yo running his own site this won't be the case
mircea_popescu: but these will lose their shirt within months, not decades.
mircea_popescu: to survive people will have to use the tools.
mircea_popescu: mike_c >D
BingoBoingo: They might stretch it out a while. People can be irrational longer than we expect as Usagi being able to list a silver instrument of some indeterminate form on a scam exchange illustrates.
mircea_popescu: so the model for sports is, there are say 10-12 respectable bookie type sites, which do all the forum spamming and general dicking around with the punters,
mircea_popescu: then they actually trade their takes on bitbet. say one got 50 btc on yes 12 on no, the other 5 on yes 64 on no etc
mircea_popescu: they can't sanely hold on to this, so they all bet on the yes/no bitbet according to their book
BingoBoingo: Sure, like the cloning intrade but actually backing it on BitBet which is real
mike_c: that would work better with bitbet v2 without a linear weight
mircea_popescu: best of both worlds.
mircea_popescu: allows people to be entrepreneurs, allows risk to be correctly handled, allows punters to not have to think and be fleeced for it.
mircea_popescu: everyone's happy, and the market grows
mircea_popescu: at least that's the model
BingoBoingo: mike_c: BitBet now works fine. Just when you write a sports bet make sure to not end the weight at 1
mircea_popescu: mike_c they're all in the same timeline so they really don't care about the weight
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10946 @ 0.00091265 = 9.9899 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: 5 minute differences or w/e may be the round-trip time for "x got injured" among the bookies won't show up in the bitbet weight anyway
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Sports bets do benefit from some sort of attached weight though, especially in hand egg because of injuries, arrests, and fat athletes having heart attacks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4643 BTC [-]
mike_c: I agree weight of some type is important. but we beat that horse dead a couple weeks ago.
mircea_popescu: some horses need to be beaten many times
mike_c: next time i beat the horse i will have a simulator in hand to show how the alternate model works.
mircea_popescu: the previous horse hath not died in vain
BingoBoingo: Horses are cheap
mircea_popescu: whorses too
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/517/bfl-will-deliver-28nm-before-jan-6-2014/
ozbot: BitBet - BFL will deliver 28nm before Jan 6 2014
mircea_popescu: who the fuck laid out on yes
BingoBoingo: I dunno. Around here people will pay you to take a horse. We really need to get to eating them already.
BingoBoingo: Inaba probably laid out for yes, but obviously doesn't have the capital he had last year...
mircea_popescu: i imagine throwing away btc is a lot more painful than it used to be too
mircea_popescu: once it sprinted from 30 to 1k people see 10k with different eyes
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/567/simona-halep-to-win-roland-garros/ << this can't be 6:1 srsly now
ozbot: BitBet - Simona Halep to win Roland Garros
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you're better at this than me, can you get me what the bookies say on this prop ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: A lot of fiat books are showing longer odds that Halep wins. This is the sort of bet though where outcomes other than yes/no might make BitBet more interesting (meaning for example a single French open bet with the option to bet on each competitor, ie you run bets like the pony track does for some events)
pankkake: not enough nerds on bitbet for starcraft
mircea_popescu: longer like how long ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: 15-17.5 to one
mircea_popescu: aha
BingoBoingo: Bitcoin tennis fans aren't rich enough to balance your love for her tits though
mircea_popescu: how is a single bet for 6 people better than 6 yes/no bets ? cause larger pool ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00091285 = 7.0746 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ha
pankkake: I thought tennis was the sport for rich people. like golf
mircea_popescu: pankkake old money = stupid = btc poor
pankkake: old money is btc zero
pankkake: btc poor is teenagers with gpus
mircea_popescu: that's a point
BingoBoingo: Well, consider a futures bet for X wins championsip of such and such league. Where the teams competing are fixed well in advanced of the seasons start. 30 baseball teams for example, you can bet on anyof them to win the world series. Maybe the pot isn't bigger, but having all of the options in one pool makes pricing risk more straight forward.
ArsKisS: https://cryptostocks.com/securities/70
ArsKisS: wutwut
BingoBoingo: Close that bet when the season starts and as the season progresses let bets open for the outcomes of individual teams.
mircea_popescu: how does it make pricing more straightforward ? i thought it makes it a nightmare
ArsKisS: they pay some good looking dividends and then skyrocket
kakobrekla: again vritual mining?
ArsKisS: yup
kakobrekla: virtual mining of virtual currency
kakobrekla: virtually scam.
KRS1: lol
ArsKisS: virtuous
pankkake: consortium!
pankkake: "A consortium is an association of two or more individuals" ok I guess that works
BingoBoingo: Well, depending on how you approach the problem of pricing in that situation it could be more of a nightmare of it could be a glorious consilodated market.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo let's try and model. three teams, a, b and c. a has 20 btc on it to win, b 15, c 27.
mircea_popescu: what's the odds a wins ?
mircea_popescu: cause if the bet is "a wins" y/n, then you deffo know what the odds are.
ArsKisS: hmm
ArsKisS: is there a way you can see whole cryptostocks history somehow
ArsKisS: this is silly that the history is just couple of pages long
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Roughly 1/3
mircea_popescu: ArsKisS perhaps you are missing their wisdom there.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo 20 / 62 ?
ArsKisS: mircea_popescu, err?
BingoBoingo: Right
mircea_popescu: and isn't y/n more straightforward ? not that a lot of adding shit is impossible to do.
mircea_popescu: ArsKisS they know their history won't ever look good, so why publish it too much.
ArsKisS: mircea_popescu, but it's about MY history
BingoBoingo: Break that into three yes/no bets though a b and c can all have bets such that all teams are favored to win. That creates an opportunity for great arbitrage, but... This is Bitcoin and people still buy "mining"
ArsKisS: mircea_popescu, talking about Account -> Legend
ArsKisS: only shows last 50 transactions
ArsKisS: useless piece of shit :<
mircea_popescu: why does this site look just like btctc
BingoBoingo: ArsKisS: Well cryptostocks is a piece of shit yes.
mircea_popescu: did they actually recycle that ?
kakobrekla: btc tc tc tc tc disco mode tc tc tc
BingoBoingo: Vircurex was hacked twice and noone bother to take the the cryptostocks wallet from that same sever out of pity
ArsKisS: BingoBoingo, yea, kinda. but some of the stocks are good :/
BingoBoingo: ArsKisS: What is good anyway
kakobrekla: thats everlasting question, what is good, what is evil
BingoBoingo: Bitbet is good, math is evil, Abaci for everyone
ArsKisS: how many markets there is btw?
ArsKisS: cryptostocks, havelock and?
kakobrekla: buttfunder
kakobrekla: glbse
kakobrekla: btc disco
mircea_popescu: and colored coins
BingoBoingo: ArsKisS: Everything is just one big market. Within the one market though there are a lot of alleys where muggins happen. If you aren't careful you might even meet Rapin' Jameis
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1539965/plain/)
kakobrekla: !b 1 ✂︎
ArsKisS: kakobrekla, last one sounds extra shady, two first I've heard something before.
ArsKisS: BingoBoingo :D
kakobrekla: !exchanges ArsKisS
kakobrekla: see what assbot pmed you
ArsKisS: cool
ArsKisS: thx
ArsKisS: Glbse closed for good?
ArsKisS: 2012 on bitcointalk
kakobrekla: oh wait its 2013 already
ArsKisS: kakobrekla, 2014
BingoBoingo: ArsKisS: Thermos killed GLBSE
ArsKisS: close call
pankkake: !exchanges
BingoBoingo: .bait
ozbot: http://31.media.tumblr.com/60f38b26f965ab5dd9b145f5e1c49add/tumblr_mvvvesgLGK1sjknteo1_1280.jpg
pankkake: it's not up to date
kakobrekla: !exchanges
pankkake: bitcoin-assets.com still has btctttc too
kakobrekla: site is still up
kakobrekla: let it be a reminder
kakobrekla: !
pankkake: at least the shares aren't losing value!
kakobrekla: lmao
BingoBoingo: Ei Ei Scam
mircea_popescu: why does that pic look like the broads are standing
kakobrekla: ArsKisS you can also lose money on pico stocks
kakobrekla: or just donate it to poor nigerians
kakobrekla: somalians work as well.
ArsKisS: kakobrekla, nah, i rather keep them
BingoBoingo: http://moviecode.tumblr.com/
ozbot: Source Code in TV and Films
kakobrekla: ArsKisS dont be so selfish
BingoBoingo: ArsKisS: You have like two minutes left to bet it on Handegg tonight
knotwork: mircea_popescu, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=402131.msg4356292#msg4356292
ArsKisS: kakobrekla, ofc
mircea_popescu: knotwork myeah.
mircea_popescu: also, there's euro futures now too
knotwork: Euro futures on MPOE ?
knotwork: Does it still cost 30 BTC for an emporium seat?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00091285 = 9.9501 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: yea.
mircea_popescu: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00199998 / 0.00246786 / 0.00333333 (651 shares, 1.61 BTC)
mircea_popescu: not much volume as of yet
mircea_popescu: but it;'s a physically settled future, you can obtain euros in bitcoin central.
pankkake: would be better if davout_ delivered the bills on your doorstep, in a metal briefcase
knotwork: hee hee
mircea_popescu: yeah, because people can afford to pay a a coupla grand for airplane tickets + hotels + etc
BingoBoingo: Wait, I though Jurov was carrying the breifcase
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00091265 = 9.6285 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so, we're doing some hardware upgrades on mpex infrastructure starting Jan 8th at 3am GMT ☟︎
pankkake: that's a smart scam/spam; target potential thieves: http://pastebin.com/mUWM0Tjf
mircea_popescu: there may be some short lived service interruptions.
pankkake: blinded by greed, they'll just open the thing without question
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 86 @ 0.00449709 = 0.3867 BTC [+] {2}
KRS1: greed is a mo-fo
KRS1: funny, some are helpless to it i noticed..darwin has a solution for them too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00091265 = 8.3964 BTC [-]
KRS1: got an interesting email in ref. to mastercoin
KRS1: http://pastebin.com/XW6mW1tc
ozbot: Arbitrage with mastercoin - Pastebin.com
KRS1: im interested in moving toward an algorithmic trading style..not sure where to start and i dont want to write my own bot from scratch
BingoBoingo: KRS1: I'm more convinced that as Bitcoin matures people will progress through more and more advanced holdign styles
mike_c: taking out that one hard drive that was holding the whole thing up? :D
KRS1: BingoBoingo: yeah the markets have to calm down a bit
KRS1: everyones complaining of manipulation
BingoBoingo: KRS1: I'm not talking about that. The BTC/Fiat interface is boring and overdone. I'm thinking applications of BTC tht take advantage of its function as a store of value (ie the most popular use of BTC)
BingoBoingo: Oh, Auburn is leading the handegg BCS thing 14-3 right nao
benkay: Just what /can/ one do with BTC held cold, BingoBoingo? Soundslike one o yer classic FR scams.
BingoBoingo: I think 3 sounds like a good over under for how many line betting ventures might fold tomorrw
BingoBoingo: benkay: Who said holding has to be cold. I'm thinking Fidelity bonds and such. One of the few people who dealt with Inputs.io and didn't get fucked was Dooglus who made TradeFortress keep a bond with him in exchange for him accepting deposits though TF's platform. Such things seem a natural growth from GPG contracts and other crypto goodness.
benkay: TF put btc on reserve, or promised to pay?
BingoBoingo: Million dollar BTC doesn't happen because Bitcoin is a better gum buying tool than a quarter at the gumball machine. It happens through a lot of BTC being tied up in contracts.
BingoBoingo: benkay: As I understand he made a deposit to Dooglus in advance
BingoBoingo: Well before his collapse.
pankkake: that was a very smart move :)
benkay: those coins have to be 'cold' until that contracts terms are invoked, correct?
BingoBoingo: Because such a deposit existed Dooglus was able to extract exactly what he was owed as opposed to submitting himself to the arbitrary fractional repayment/settlement mess TF devised.
BingoBoingo: benkay: Of course coins in such an arrangement have to stay cold.
BingoBoingo: The value of the coins though is as a store.
benkay: the Dooglus property in question being just-dice?
BingoBoingo: benkay: Yup.
benkay: BingoBoingo: why did j-d have a dependency on inputs.io in the first place?
BingoBoingo: benkay: They didn't have any dependency. They just wanted more deposit options and TF was willing to deposit a fidelity bond to cover deposits through inputs.io
benkay: ah so if i can recap
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2090 @ 0.001 = 2.09 BTC [+]
benkay: j-d made themselves an inputs.io account to which IIO victims could send btc without blockchain confirmations or such, and the fidelity bond was to cover however that account
benkay: however *much* that account *was holding when IIO went down
BingoBoingo: That roughly seems to be it. I've traversed quite a bit of this handle of vodka I trekked through the polar vortex to acquire, but it sounds right. Depositors just weren't inputs.io victims yet.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2117 @ 0.00091285 = 1.9325 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: benkay there was no depending, tf was in search of adding value to his otherwise not particularly useful service
benkay: all webwallet users are victims, they just don't know it yet.
BingoBoingo: Well, yeah
mircea_popescu: associating with things like jd made sense in that perspective. doog had enough sense to keep it at arms length
BingoBoingo: Every year a new batch of people makes that clear.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.465 BTC [+]
Duffer1: yea :(
benkay: mircea_popescu there were dependencies if j-d had to have a surety bond
BingoBoingo: benkay: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242962.msg3480730#msg3480730 hold how this worked out
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 42 @ 0.04999999 = 2.1 BTC [+]
benkay: BingoBoingo: anchors aren't working today
BingoBoingo: benkay: It is the bottom post on that page
benkay: well, in ffox anyways.
pankkake: ah, I'm not the only one!
mircea_popescu: mp grins at BingoBoingo's link, knowing full well he was the original investor that insisted dooglus use a gpg scheme to certify investment movements.
mircea_popescu: apparently it caught on. win.
BingoBoingo: I dunno that I was the one to tell that to dooglus.
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg4357086#msg4357086 http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/ lol
ozbot: BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC)
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1427
ozbot: Loper OS » Cardano Prototype Tidbits: TRNG Boards.
BingoBoingo: pankkake: I imagine this time last year he would have given Blockbet.net an A+++
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9570 @ 0.00091287 = 8.7362 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: ah just you wait - someone's going to send in the .3 butts or w/e for a cardano and scream scam that it doesn't mine
benkay: then nsa's name will be trashed on the forums forever
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm looking through my investment records (ie staring wistfully at my vodka) and dun see any record of me having invested in just-dice
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo me not you
BingoBoingo: Ah
pankkake: don't forget mp talks in the third person
mircea_popescu: sometimes :D
mircea_popescu: lol they're still derping on that topic ?
BingoBoingo: pankkake: I've tried translating MP a few times. Talking in the third person is the least tricky thing MP does.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC [+]
pankkake: I have abandonned my trilema TL;DR project :(
mircea_popescu: sometimes he talks in french. other times he talks in odd words only.
pankkake: that bitbet think will never die
pankkake: thing
benkay: more like if you think its too long you probably don't have it in you to actually read it ;)
benkay: what, it's 10K!
mircea_popescu: i thought he was doing more like a public service thing
benkay: kid probably makes 2x that a year.
benkay: he can yell for six months at that rate before
mircea_popescu: benkay i thought it's diff kids carrying the torch. perhaps not.
benkay: a self catalyzing bitchfest?
benkay: it's like a smouldering log - but whence the o2?
mircea_popescu: maybe it's just fascinating.
mircea_popescu: i would guess a large section of the us poor has never encountered this situation where an entity pointedly doesn't give a shit about them
pankkake: isn't it all the time?
pankkake: unless they get enough retweets
mircea_popescu: no, see, there's a difference
mircea_popescu: case 1 : you go to an interview, they never call you back. you apply for a loan, they never call you back. you give a girl your number, she never calls you
mircea_popescu: case 2 : you got to an interview, they tell you you're fucking retarded and get lost
jcpham: f that
jcpham: +1
mircea_popescu: you apply for a loan, they tell you you're a fucking prole and you may never ever have a loan
mircea_popescu: you give a girl a number and she laughs her ass off
mircea_popescu: very different things these
pankkake: once I went to an interview, they never called me back, but it was mutual
CuWireBeard: Oh no rejection, however will a person press on!
BingoBoingo: Oh, Auburn is still winning at half time 21-10. However will line betting survive.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00091265 = 4.1982 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.00456948 = 0.4432 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.04999999 = 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 271 @ 0.00294 = 0.7967 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10663 @ 0.00091323 = 9.7378 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3745 @ 0.00091344 = 3.4208 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/01/05/fbi_drops_law_enforcement_as_primary_mission
ozbot: FBI Drops Law Enforcement as 'Primary' Mission
benkay: they see the writing on the wall w/r/t drug seizures funding their operations, i gather.
mircea_popescu: benkay more like, "what law".
asciilifeform: 'national security' might as well 'lettre de cachet enforcement'. wonder why they bothered formalizing it.
mircea_popescu: i doubt there's any intent involved
mircea_popescu: 3rd rate paper writer wrote a word he liked.
mircea_popescu: According to a recent Pew Research Center survey, more than five-in-ten members of the public and roughly six-in-ten members of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), a nonpartisan membership organization and think tank specializing in U.S. foreign policy, agree that the United States plays a less important role around the world than it did a decade ago.
mircea_popescu: jeez, and here i thought i'm a lone prophet in a sea of denial
mircea_popescu: where's pew find these members of the public ?!
Duffer1: the northern and coastal states
Duffer1: did you see the top gear where the guys drove through alabama/georgia?
mircea_popescu: i don't think i ever saw top gear
Duffer1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKcJ-0bAHB4
ozbot: Run out of Alabama - Offensive cars - Top Gear - Series 9 - BBC - YouTube
Duffer1: and a bit extra (comments on that episode) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jG0D2nRGrQ
KRS1: top gear is great, u.s. version sux
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: ,d
mircea_popescu: .d
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Duffer1: btw, top gear UK is a great show even if you're not into cars
mircea_popescu: im notmuch into tv
pankkake: lol reminds me of redneck rampage
Duffer1: oh shit i completely forgot about that game
Duffer1: http://www.gog.com/game/redneck_rampage_collection
ozbot: Redneck Rampage Collection for download $5.99 - GOG.com
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1862 @ 0.00091265 = 1.6994 BTC [-]
benkay: you guys i hate fucking with legacy js
benkay: will fuck with not legacy js for btc
benkay: feed a poor bitfag who wants only to work and some btc for his efforts
pankkake: that is true of any code really
benkay: will fuck with not legacy * for btc
benkay: save me
benkay: js is somehow worse though - if tests are guardrails, ecma is like the salt flats
pankkake: do you get coding jobs in btc?
benkay: 900 MPH GO DON'T WORRY ABOUT SURFACE ROUGHNESS
benkay: i want to book all revenue in btc
pankkake: who wouldn't want that? :)
benkay: don't really want a job though - want more to have projects to deliver for fixed bids.
pankkake: have you done this before?
benkay: here and there.
benkay: heh and what is "this"
pankkake: I fear, even more in the btc world, that you'd have to be very specific about the deliverable
pankkake: "this isn't what i asked for"
benkay: o ya
benkay: huge risk in that style of development.
benkay: *sigh*
pankkake: that's the nice thing about being a slave (or as other call it, employee); you don't have to care about it too much
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00091502 = 10.7515 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: hard to seize opportunities and grow power base from behind a desk
benkay: hard to get close to capital wielders without desks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4186 @ 0.00091641 = 3.8361 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.0046 = 0.368 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.44 = 1.32 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00091641 = 4.7195 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Looks like line betting lives to see another day
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00091641 = 3.7115 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.0009172 = 11.4191 BTC [+] {2}
KRS1: BingoBoingo: do you believe any of this? http://themisescircle.org/blog/2013/12/20/mastercoin-is-a-nightmare-of-insanity/
KRS1: idk enough to say if its correct or not
BingoBoingo: KRS1: I'm the person who bet on Auburn tonight, so I dunno if I am the right person to ask.
benkay: it's rather ingenious - they've managed to break most of the good features of bitcoin.
KRS1: haha BingoBoingo
KRS1: lol benkay i was starting to think about that
KRS1: the investment group i belong to funded some of their project
KRS1: and all along i wasnt on board with it
BingoBoingo: KRS1: The fact the game wasn't decided until the last two minutes though supports my assertion that at the odds offered Auburn ML was a hell of a value.
KRS1: of all the projects that came across our plates, this one had the most negative comments from sources within the bitcoin community so i was unreluctant to put any weight behind it
benkay: willing, so to speak?
KRS1: yeah
twizt: lot of netsplits lately
benkay: end times
benkay: mastercoin is the gone-too-far surreal bitcoin
benkay: bitcoin is stupid and weird enough: "here! an arbitrary token! it's cryptographically secure and shit!"
benkay: the gentlefolk over at mastercoin are all "it's not enough! ALL PROPERTY MUST BE REPRESENTED WITH SATOSHEEEEEES OR SOMETHING."
benkay: property etc need enforcement. property *is* enforcement. it's enforcement of whose property a thing is.
BingoBoingo: It's like TAT's blockchain drm suggestion earlier. Blockchains are only practical solutions in so many cases.
benkay: all the colored coins in the world aren't going to keep you in a house the local duke wants for himself.
benkay: link?
Duffer1: logs
BingoBoingo: benkay: Scroll up to this morning-ish
benkay: got it
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11890 @ 0.0009192 = 10.9293 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: benkay: Do you have any experience with this text http://landoflisp.com/ Would it be a good introduction to the functional ways?
benkay: land of lisp is grand
benkay: a little childish but a good text
benkay: i imagine you're not rooted in some oo philosophy?
benkay: tee hee BingoBoingo you're going to have such fun
BingoBoingo: benkay: Nah, I don't really have roots anywhere I can't erase with sufficient ETOH
benkay: learn emacs too
benkay: and maybe just emacs and elisp is fine, but i'm no computing pedagogical expert
benkay: (you'll notice how few of those there are)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2392 @ 0.00092405 = 2.2103 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: I have classroom evaluations that show I'm better than mediocre at pedagogy. The problem is WTF do I have to teach. For one class I did the first half I did was Aristotelian syllogisms and the other was predicate logic for jocks.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
benkay: programming is a trade, not a topic.
benkay: to be taught, it must be learned.
BingoBoingo: I'm not doing a bad pace on the python, but the language is feeling constraining
benkay: you can diddle Hy on python
benkay: learn you a lisp in your native libs
benkay: i'da done that if i'd stuck with python
benkay: and even though asciilifeform hates hates hates hates clojure, i think it's an acceptable lisp for mortals who haven't actually played with symbolics machines while we wait for his lazy quixotic ass to make us the modern lisp machine that we deserve
benkay: see: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=42 http://www.loper-os.org/?p=374
benkay: i'm glad to hack in a lisp with which i can make jars to stick on windows shops servers for cold hard cash, nahmean?
benkay: i'll leave the rusty stradivarius for the man who can actually play it while i play scales on my plastic 'violin' over here, okay?
BingoBoingo: benkay: I don't have very positive feeling for the JVM, I think releasing it was a low point for Sun. I say this as someone who in their first job after dishwashing had a Sun Ultra 80 as their work computer because it was they one that was available.
BingoBoingo: I dunno why no one else wanted it, the Sun monitor had really high DPI for being several years outdated in -04
benkay: but lisp is so awesome that rich hickey wrapped it around the jvm and made it almost invisible
benkay: lisp: best syntactic sugar ever.
benkay: of course the jvm does rear her ugly head above the sweet peaceful waters of rich hickeys dreamy-calm programming environment from time to time.
BingoBoingo: Maybe I should get myself another of SPARC workstation
BingoBoingo: *old
KRS1: those old sun workstations were gems
KRS1: SunOS mmm
BingoBoingo: I was largely a fan of the permanent dent the monitor left in the folding table that served as my desk there.
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nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/KmLRtbI.jpg
BingoBoingo: Yeah nubbins` Stupid pussy
nubbins`: 4am = cereal time
nubbins`: can't sleep
KRS1: whatcha got for cereal
nubbins`: honey shreddies
nubbins`: cheap as fuck and SO DELICIOUS
KRS1: weird never heard of them
Duffer1: must be some weird canadia nonsense
KRS1: haha
KRS1: Nestle
nubbins`: yeah, i'm only now realizing that apparently they only exist in the UK and Canada
nubbins`: you guys are missing out, big time
KRS1: http://www.freebiesiteuk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/honey-shreddies-coupon.jpg
Duffer1: like milk in bags
KRS1: milk in bags? weird
Duffer1: I KNOW RIGHT
KRS1: who does that
nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/Lp3iwNo.jpg
nubbins`: ^ canadian box
Duffer1: fkin canadians
nubbins`: also, i think bagged milk is a mainland canada thing
KRS1: Ya eh?
nubbins`: you can't buy bagged milk here in nl
KRS1: Do you get your beer in bags too eh?
nubbins`: heh
Duffer1: hehe
nubbins`: i get my beer from the kitchen faucet like a normal person
KRS1: Canada is good for ginger ale Canada Dry mm
KRS1: LOL nubbins
KRS1: I knew you guys were alcoholic beer drinkers! I saw the movie Strange Brew
nubbins`: srsly, you guys have never tried shreddies :(
nubbins`: i'm bummed for you guys now
Duffer1: i eat quacker life, looks exactly the same as your nestle shreddies
KRS1: Rice Krispies, Kix, Cocoa Pebbles ftw oh and Capn Crunch
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1405 @ 0.00092405 = 1.2983 BTC [+]
nubbins`: capn crunch is ok but it tears your mouth to ribbons
KRS1: yeh
Duffer1: http://www.meijer.com/s/quaker-oats-life-cereal-1-box-15-oz/_/R-125269
Duffer1: the trick to capn crunch is to let it set for about 5 minutes
nubbins`: Duffer1, looks similar
nubbins`: i was on a big oatmeal crunch kick for a while
nubbins`: sorry
nubbins`: oatmeal crisp
nubbins`: and also raisin bran
nubbins`: but honey shreddies is the only one i buy anymore
Duffer1: i buy like 4 random boxes of my favorites and just mix em all together
nubbins`: :0
nubbins`: so it turns out that i should either start making breat at 4am, or change the feeding schedule for my sourdough starter
nubbins`: *bread
nubbins`: it's SO active right now
BingoBoingo: There are ways to calm it down
Diablo-D3: cereal is not paleo.
nubbins`: neither is smoking weed, getting your dick sucked, irc, bitcoin, etc
BingoBoingo: Neither a fairly chemically pure combination of grain alcohol and distilled water. In this instance I'm choosing purity of essence.
Diablo-D3: no, getting your dick sucked is paleo
nubbins`: on film tho?
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Double down, is film enough. What about in a CT machine
nubbins`: hmmmm
BingoBoingo: Or an fMRI
KRS1: getting your dick sucked is heaven
BingoBoingo: Seriously though Diablo-D3 White bread is awesome
KRS1: ever since my first bj i dont think anything in my life has ever compared.
KRS1: night guys gotta get some rest
nubbins`: peace
nubbins`: interesting point of note, i created my sourdough starter from scratch over 16 months ago
nubbins`: and have somehow managed to keep it alive this entire time
BingoBoingo: Sounds like you need to get to baking
bounce: that's pretty cool. except that when you're done you have sourdough bread.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4948 @ 0.00092226 = 4.5633 BTC [-]
nubbins`: man, sourdough is great.
nubbins`: especially when made with multigrain flour
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: For most people. I imagine some people though have the misfortune of geography giving them a bunch of microflora that just taste like shit.
nubbins`: yeah, could very well be
nubbins`: realistically tho, just start with name-brand whole wheat flour and your starter will taste like everyone else's in the country/region
nubbins`: i birthed mine with this: http://imgur.com/Xyrf1JG
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: I imagine some regions though can't be good. Take Ohio as an example. For most of the 20th century thier rivers were flamable.
nubbins`: trivial pursuit one xmas, my mom is asked to name a state that begins and ends with O
nubbins`: she excitedly shouts OKLAHOMO
BingoBoingo: That doesn't seem like an inaccurate label
nubbins`: i lel'd heavily at her
BingoBoingo: There having been many times betting on college football games I have scream thing semantically similar to Oklahomo at the TV having bet for, against, or both for an outcome where the Oklahomos are on top
Duffer1: lawl sooners
nubbins`: ok gonna try sleeping
nubbins`: peace
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.0046 = 0.1656 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2354 @ 0.00008937 = 0.2104 BTC [-] {3}
Diablo-D3: OKLLAAHHHOOOMMOOO, WHERE THE FAGGOOOTTS ROOAAAAAAAM
Diablo-D3: or something
BingoBoingo: I hear humping Buffalo is Paleo
Duffer1: dat megafauna
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.03499999 = 0.35 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 955 @ 0.00045145 = 0.4311 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7912 @ 0.00091848 = 7.267 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 303 @ 0.001 = 0.303 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3676 @ 0.00091806 = 3.3748 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00091486 = 6.77 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: .d
ozbot: 1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 1113 blocks | Estimated Change: 15.4948% in 6d 12h 28m 29s
mircea_popescu: someone must have delivered something
mircea_popescu: who was it ?
Duffer1: likely hashfast
mircea_popescu: aha
jurov: oh #bitcoin-assets, the place to go for holy wars about lisp and cereals
mircea_popescu: waitwut ?
jurov: today's log
jurov: not holy wars wars, admittedly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.001 = 0.15 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: but to clear the air,
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVGvszaIr-w
ozbot: Dull Surprise - MST3K - YouTube
mircea_popescu: and also, https://www.google.com/search?q=gurning&complete=0&tbm=isch&tbo=u
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.0245 = 0.1225 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 50 @ 0.024 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.46 = 4.6 BTC [+]
jurov: * mircea_popescu had just grepped the log for lisp, found 0 hits :D rly?
mircea_popescu: jurov this client doesn't log when im offline see
jurov: good idea sometimes
mircea_popescu: yup
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "The picture book Hair in Funny Places is intended to reassure kids about to go through puberty. With pictures of a young girl's insides being taken over by grotesque furry monsters representing hormones."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00091265 = 1.5515 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.450125 = 7.202 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 157 @ 0.02479958 = 3.8935 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.46 = 2.3 BTC [+]
Namworld: You know, I seem to see many co start accepting Bitcoin stating because of numerous demands from customers. But I can't help but feel those Bitcoin customers are over-represented simply because they are very vocal about it and push it to all businesses they know.
mircea_popescu: you are spot on the money.
mircea_popescu: this is why i don't really encourage the sort of hollow millitantism the "community" seems to think is the one important thing to do, and i doubt anyone's smart to encourage it.
mircea_popescu: you gain nothing by frustrating the people you want to work with
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/ill-tell-you-what-impressed-me-today/
ozbot: I’ll tell you what impressed me today. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11056 @ 0.00091333 = 10.0978 BTC [+]
Neil: mircea_popescu: Why is bitbet proposition "betsofbitco.in to shut down in 2014 Rejection reason: Too late." rejected? It has 1 year to run.
mircea_popescu: isn't this that scammy venue that pushed the original bfl bets back in march ?
Neil: Yeah
mircea_popescu: well... i would guess what they mean is that by now it doesn't matter anymore. it might as well be closed.
Neil: Um, ok :)
mircea_popescu: purely technical argument, how would you establish it did in fact close ? whether someone somewhere can afford shared hosting to put some html up for the rest of the year ?
Neil: Several independent credible complaints about lack of payout, or the site just goes offline
Neil: I'm pissed because they've not resolved several bets from 2013 still
Neil: (though they've paid out several, so it's not as if they're planning a run, yet)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 96 @ 0.46648937 = 44.783 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: i hear ya.
Neil: I've decided to get out though; bitbet is more transparent, being maintained (BoB not updated in 3 years), resolves fairly promptly, and now seems to have more interest.
mircea_popescu: it always had more interest, you kidding ?
mircea_popescu: march bfl bet was like 1k
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/
mircea_popescu: 1500 actually
ozbot: BitBet - BFL will deliver ASIC devices before March 1st
mircea_popescu: bitco.in thing pushed what, 300 was it ?
Neil: Well until recently they had a higher total bettage in all I think. Now they look like they've died (check it out).
Neil: Recently == 9 months ago-ish
mircea_popescu: lol ok, 9 months ago bitbet was 2 months old or some shit
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/619/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-2b-before-feb/
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty at or above 2B before Feb 2014
Neil: What's with all the recent sports bets? Trying to get focus there? They don't seem to be attracting much interest.
mircea_popescu: holy mothefucking mary on a stick
mircea_popescu: talk about volume ? ~500 btc bet just came through
Neil: wow
Neil: You had a 500 in the bet you linked above, the BFL one
Neil: Lol, the payout address is 1BUST
mircea_popescu: i had nothing to do with this one.
Neil: Oh you did the other one?
Neil: Are bitbet employees permitted to bet PA?
Neil: employees/owners
mircea_popescu: the source oif this one seems to be https://blockchain.info/address/151d4rzMhRnyfYUvHrvfADcgKgNdjMmLsd
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00091284 = 9.0371 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: Neil how will you verify who bets ? they're permitted by default, as you'd never know
Neil: Of course. Just wondering if there was a "policy".
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell neil well my policy is to not make untenable policies
gribble: The operation succeeded.
kakobrekla: o, bitbet whales surface again
mircea_popescu: honestly the odds for the no side don't look so bad now
mircea_popescu: .d
ozbot: 1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 1100 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.6108% in 6d 12h 24m 40s
mircea_popescu: it's still perfectly possible it doesn't cross
Namworld: lol http://www.lamboparity.com/
Duffer1: is that goat's lambo?
Namworld: No clue
kakobrekla: pft only 200 btc
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla Calculator:
mircea_popescu: placing a winning 360 BTC bet on:
mircea_popescu: Yes pays: 397.68477148 BTC
mircea_popescu: No pays: 730.01195226 BTC
mircea_popescu: you know i thinkthat's broked ?
kakobrekla: hm
mircea_popescu: o no wait, it includes your 360
mircea_popescu: nm
mircea_popescu: it's fine
kakobrekla: k
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00091577 = 9.9361 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00363333 = 0.109 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 43 @ 0.00340147 = 0.1463 BTC [-] {2}
ArsKisS: http://plutuscryptocapital.com/
ArsKisS: seems like eben scam?
ArsKisS: or just project with nobody that make a website?
ArsKisS: +can
mircea_popescu: seems like more of the same.
mircea_popescu: "Plutus is managed by a crypto-currency enthusiast and risk management specialist located in Canada with 10+ years of experience in studying/working as an actuary with relevant experience in statistics/mathematics, trading, fund management and entrepreneurship. "
mircea_popescu: also known as a 14 yo aspiring student from mainlaind china with a space alien treasure hunter millionaire friend
ArsKisS: :D
ArsKisS: mircea_popescu, sounds legit
ArsKisS: btw they have 100k or 1M shares to sell?
mircea_popescu: among numerous other things, bitcoin has been a fascinating exercise in displaying just how clueless people are when it comes to... who they are.
ArsKisS: it's a bit confusing how it's put on cryptostocks
mircea_popescu: apparently most anyone has no idea.
ArsKisS: mircea_popescu :D
ArsKisS: you should have a youtube channel "angry bitcoin nerd" where you rate businesses
ArsKisS: i would tip
mircea_popescu: all i've done on youtube is burn the koran
Duffer1: ha
mircea_popescu: well, the bible too
Duffer1: ha
ArsKisS: mircea_popescu, you should expand!
nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397827.msg4359726#msg4359726
ozbot: [WTS] Casascius coins.
mircea_popescu: how much bacon can a person eat
ArsKisS: just take one episode for one scammer "business"
nubbins`: ^ shit getting heavy ;(
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 5000 @ 0.002 = 10 BTC [-]
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: pascale used to have a roommate who would stock up on "storm bacon" whenever bad weather was coming
mircea_popescu: nubbins` anything deeper than random muppets trading forum posts there ?
ArsKisS: bacon <3
nubbins`: because, y'know, you might need to eat a pound of bacon when the power goes out
ArsKisS: where do you need that storm for?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: nah, just a bit lelly because i have the accused's home address. keeping an eye on it 8)
mircea_popescu: a a
nubbins`: people forget these things
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 146 @ 0.0045054 = 0.6578 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: anyway, there is something satisfying about a rich southern breakfast as the storm rages outside , but my bacon comment was mostly in-context joke re the scriptures burning stuff
nubbins`: nod
nubbins`: do not eat the flesh of the swine, for it is too delicious and you will not stop
nubbins`: i ground a kilo of pork shoulder into sausages the other day and forgot to add any salt or spices :(
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 3 minutes and 43 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | None based on data since last change | 1858132456.52 based on data for last three days
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: how do you forget that
ThickAsThieves: lets just get it over with and get 2bn on this round
kakobrekla: >The intention of this thread is to post analysis on short to medium term fiat/BTC price developments, scenarios, portfolio allocation, etc. what fits the topic. No double bottoms, ad hominem, trolling or low level comments. As usual, your post will be deleted if not conforming to guidelines above.
kakobrekla: first self reply starts with > Now I am smoking Cohiba Piramides, which is quite nice in the premium midsize category (75 minutes).
kakobrekla: guess the poster
nubbins`: Diablo-D3: i was too excited. i had it all mixed up and everything, just forgot to sprinkle it over the meat before feeding it.
nubbins`: kakobrekla: Vexual
kakobrekla: nope
kakobrekla: more clues, it continiues with: > No wine. Even if I did, it would be port, the only kind that goes with cigars.
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: you can always slice the casings over and try again
Diablo-D3: er, open
kakobrekla: cmon its too easy already
Duffer1: sounds like me
nubbins`: nod. considered it. i'll probably just spice them while they're cooking tho
nubbins`: i ended up aborting the sausage and just making a pile of ground pork with the second half, which i did spice
ThickAsThieves: kako, goat?
kakobrekla: ThickAsThieves , english too good.
nubbins`: hahaha
ThickAsThieves: Dr. Greg?
nubbins`: i cheated and googled. isn't that the guy who was compiling the "bitcoin most richest" list?
kakobrekla: nope
kakobrekla: fu nubbins`
nubbins`: D:
kakobrekla: you broke the game
ThickAsThieves: hehe
kakobrekla: i ban you
nubbins`: TBH never would have guessed in a million years
ThickAsThieves: i shoulda known
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves lolz
kakobrekla: it was obvious cmon
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 36 @ 0.02479988 = 0.8928 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> guess the poster << superdorkee ?
nubbins`: nah, i don't know that guy from moses
kakobrekla: nah, nubbins` spoiled it, its tortilla dude
mircea_popescu: yes yes, superdamenblues
mircea_popescu: (it was very obvious fwiw)
nubbins`: ;(
nubbins`: <--ruiner
nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/TjtsjCm.jpg
nubbins`: ^ did i post that last night? can't recall
nubbins`: still laughing at it
Duffer1: i feel like posting that in the mintspare thread
ThickAsThieves: hehe
ThickAsThieves: one of my cats particularly likes getting in boxes
mircea_popescu: .d
ozbot: 1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 1094 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.6013% in 6d 11h 40m 2s
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves IT DROPPED!
ThickAsThieves: nonsense
ThickAsThieves: http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty
ozbot: Bitcoin Difficulty and Hashrate Chart - BitcoinWisdom
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | None based on data since last change | 1858132456.52 based on data for last three days
mircea_popescu: was 15% earlier
mircea_popescu: now 14.6
ThickAsThieves: itll be 20% by the change
ThickAsThieves: look at that spike in the link
ThickAsThieves: the grey line
ThickAsThieves: hehe
mircea_popescu: yeah
ThickAsThieves: all those ASICs
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-small-lin-ever.png
mircea_popescu: i like this chart
mircea_popescu: "there is no future. for sometime in january, it went vertical"
mircea_popescu: thus therefore tomorrow never comes anymore
nubbins`: tat, http://i.imgur.com/TMm3pox.jpg
nubbins`: i was told it's because a lot of kittens are born in cardboard boxes, but our cat came from a farm and she loves 'em. i think it's just because there's a bit of give to the bottoms, and they can dig claws into 'em fairly easily
ThickAsThieves: what happens to all these ASICs in a year?
ThickAsThieves: landfill?
Duffer1: sha256 clones
Duffer1: and fantasy
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: memecoin x1000
nubbins`: half-seriously considering forking "fleececoin" and you have to pay 0.01 btc to download the client
mircea_popescu: if they burn for a year straight that'll be decent performance.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.001 = 0.25 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 apparently hashfast didn't deliver
Duffer1: it's quite amazing how reliable that trend is
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
Duffer1: i guess i'm still new enough to be surprised
mircea_popescu: srsly, is the spike in hashpower bfl ?!
Duffer1: the only way that could happen is if their monarchs are real and ready
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.00469997 = 0.2491 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280630.40
ozbot: BFL Monarch - Delivery Dates
mircea_popescu: seems about as likely as that chick last night actually being a faerie
nubbins`: interesting to note, fairy lore is taken very seriously by old timers here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5312 @ 0.00091845 = 4.8788 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/monarch-discussion/7065-monarch-delivery.html
ozbot: Monarch Delivery?
mircea_popescu: apparently, they've given up even on censoring their forums
Duffer1: it's hard to damn up the ocean
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3488 @ 0.00092041 = 3.2104 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: not on the internet. something awful's been doing it for two decades.
nubbins`: my friend works at a hardware store and was explaining this fairy stuff to the younger workers
nubbins`: they thought he was full of shit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00296489 = 0.2965 BTC [+]
nubbins`: so he started asking every customer with grey hair why one would carry bread in one's pocket when walking in the woods
nubbins`: without fail, the answer was an "are you stupid?" look, followed by "to keep the fairies away"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00296489 = 1.4824 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.00296489 = 0.2105 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0029808 = 0.5962 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 151 @ 0.0029808 = 0.4501 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: lol the new hashing is SO Hashfast and BFL
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7562 @ 0.00092041 = 6.9601 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: the greed is just too overhwhelming when considering "Well we could just hash with these things for a few weeks, right?"
ThickAsThieves: cept BFL does months
Duffer1: imo it's still likely hashfast
Duffer1: even if it's just inhouse "testing"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00298089 = 0.1938 BTC [+]
Duffer1: i can't find anyone else, but that doesn't really mean much
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 319 @ 0.00298999 = 0.9538 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1106 @ 0.0029999 = 3.3179 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 151 @ 0.00299997 = 0.453 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.00299998 = 0.117 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6911 @ 0.00092041 = 6.361 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6689 @ 0.00092275 = 6.1723 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 350 @ 0.00166667 = 0.5833 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0045102 = 0.451 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves perhaps you're right
mircea_popescu: alternatively of course it's that top secret beijing govt project all the talk was about
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.1014009 = 1.014 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: http://nypost.com/2014/01/06/spitzer-and-lis-smith-caught-in-topless-hot-tub-antics/
ozbot: Spitzer caught sucking Lis Smith’s toes in topless hot tub romp | New York Post
mircea_popescu: someone needs to explain these people to the rest of the world.
mircea_popescu: what exactly is the big deal ?
ThickAsThieves: "Sleazy Eliot Spitzer turned a resort hot tub into a steamy love cauldron over the weekend "
ThickAsThieves: lol
nubbins`: love cauldron
mircea_popescu: the best part is “It was gross,” said a hotel witness, and who walked over to catch an eyeful.
mircea_popescu: all in the same sentence.
mircea_popescu: i mean, coming out of the sand niggers i could see complete barbarism of the sort.
mircea_popescu: but the new york post talking of public fucking in these terms is disgraceful,
ThickAsThieves: "The disgraced Spitzer — infamous for wearing his signature black knee socks while having sex with hookers — appears to have a bit of a foot fetish as well, according to onlookers."
mircea_popescu: especially as no fucking fucking took place.
ThickAsThieves: i didnt know he was so disgraced
the20year: ?
mircea_popescu: yeah, another part of the alternate reality.
ThickAsThieves: now i know
ThickAsThieves: thank you nypost!
ThickAsThieves: this read like theonion or sumth
ThickAsThieves: reads*
mircea_popescu: no dude. us liberalism = topless women are disgusting and feet stink
ThickAsThieves: wait is NY Post just a trashy tabloid?
nubbins`: sounds like it
mircea_popescu: we're in 1800 subsaharan africa nao, under the englightened leadership of the least literate group of ignoramuses ever to grace the light of day
ThickAsThieves: i dont think we're sposed to take this website seriously
the20year: nypost or what?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it's one of the oldest and most circulated us papers.
mircea_popescu: founded by hamilton
mircea_popescu: course murdoch ruined it, but anyway.
the20year: Murdoch owns it now?
ThickAsThieves: well i'm viewing their prize-winning bikini celeb gallery now
ThickAsThieves: so many unsexy 45yo women
the20year: in corporate rule , is htere a way to create/manage a company with a board of directors or advisors to help guide the company and protect shareholders, even if the issuer has majority stake in it?
ThickAsThieves: padma and rihanna are hot tho
kakobrekla: rihanna is 45?
kakobrekla: urlpls
mircea_popescu: wasn't she born in the 70s ?!
Duffer1: 1988
ThickAsThieves: i'm referring to the unsexy ones, remember
the20year: rihana is from barbados? Didn't know that
rbonestell: I've pinged the havelock channel already, does anyone here know how I can get price history data for charts from havelock? Maybe someone here wrote assbot?
ThickAsThieves: not a real black person
ThickAsThieves: speaking of unreal black people: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/01/07/kanyes-lawyer-moves-to-block-coinye/
mircea_popescu: rbonestell kakobrekla wrote assbot
mircea_popescu: you can get data from him, see the website (it's in the chan topic)
mircea_popescu: Hot Topics:
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rbonestell: mircea_popescu: Thanks!
mircea_popescu: i guess we rule the ws huh.
ThickAsThieves: wireless savings?
ThickAsThieves: ad link?
ThickAsThieves: this is gonna make Kanye so angry
ThickAsThieves: they are distribut9ing the code today
ThickAsThieves: should be a nice gem
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves did i say it's unauthorised then ? i did. did i say i hope they get sued ? i don't recall
mircea_popescu: byut prolly.
mircea_popescu: is this going to result in a lot of lol ? definitely!
rbonestell: mircea_popescu, is that just MPEX connectivity?
mircea_popescu: rbonestell "that"
ThickAsThieves: drama to feed the bitcoin beast
ThickAsThieves: when will Bernanke come after pankake?
rbonestell: sorry, does bitcoin-assets.com only have connectivity info for mpex?
mircea_popescu: no.
ThickAsThieves: rbonestell, talk to topace, he made the Havelock API
ThickAsThieves: or email support@
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves more subtle than that : humiliation to feed the observation that fiat can either submit willingly or be forced to submit to our standards.
mircea_popescu: kinda unfortunate that in this case fiat world's ignorance provides a white piece of bread for some assholes,
mircea_popescu: but i did say either get in the wot or get raped a while back. had kayne listened then he wouldn't have the problem today.
mircea_popescu: he instead chose to hire lawyers. well... gotta learn somehow who makes the rules and who one should obey.
ThickAsThieves: if he were in the wot, what would have happened instead?
ThickAsThieves: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1umkrm/we_work_for_a_major_retailer_heres_the_problem_we/
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the wrangle is over how likely people are to mistake the coin for his
ThickAsThieves: "Edit: So far most everyone is suggesting we just process returns in $US, which is fine, except that really proves that BTC is not a currency, but a payment method. "
mircea_popescu: if he were i nthe wot such mistake would have been impossible
mircea_popescu: buyt as he is not in the wot, the fact of the matter is that as far as bitcoin is concerned, his identity belongs more to the "seven dorks" than to him himself
ThickAsThieves: well even if they know it's not his, the makers are still benefiting form his name
mircea_popescu: and there's jack shit the powers he thought are powerful can do to help him
ThickAsThieves: he'd sue anyway
ThickAsThieves: well, maybe not sue
ThickAsThieves: but yknow
mircea_popescu: i don't.
mircea_popescu: if someone makes mpcoin, what of it ?
mircea_popescu: some muppets may think it is in fact mpcoin. what of it ?
ThickAsThieves: i'm not saying he should care
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is forcing very deep resettlement of values, far reaching.
ThickAsThieves: just that since he does
ThickAsThieves: being in the wot doesnt change anything
mircea_popescu: well since he does, he's invested in the wrong thing.
mircea_popescu: being in the wot'd have allowed him to bring meaningful proof.
mircea_popescu: being friends with lawyers does not do the same service.
ThickAsThieves: i dont think kanye needs wot to prove anything to anyone
mircea_popescu: apparently he does.
ThickAsThieves: however, if he were in wot, he may have been left be
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6592 @ 0.00091902 = 6.0582 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: and some other celeb targeted
mircea_popescu: this is what it is : no wot, you're the nigger. no matter how greatly accomplished you may think you are in your community,
mircea_popescu: it does not pay a cent.
mircea_popescu: im sure plenty of slaves were esteemed members of their community before being taken across the sea, too.
Duffer1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=396068.0 that is a pretty amazing logo
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
ozbot: [ANN][COYE] Coinye Coin - Launch: JANUARY 7, 2014. 7 PM PST
Duffer1: i need a cascas of that
ThickAsThieves: i love the idea of Kanye lurking bitcointalk.org
ThickAsThieves: lol
ThickAsThieves: "These nerdy motherfuckers!""
mircea_popescu: indeed lol
Duffer1: the bigger the fuss he chooses to create, the more valuable the coin will become
mircea_popescu: yup
Duffer1: fkin brilliant
ThickAsThieves: no one knows how to make a fuss like kanye
BingoBoingo: Maybe Kanye eventually starts doing thing the right way and outsources handling Bitcointalk to a Kardashian
mircea_popescu: just another restatement of "fiat is dead"
ThickAsThieves: this could get bigger
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lawl
Duffer1: lol bb
ThickAsThieves: lemme check the rap blogs
Duffer1: if you don't find anything feel free to start some posts, brb downloading wallet
ThickAsThieves: it's in PC world, Washington Post, Wired, The Guardian, Geek.com, CNBC, Slashgear
ThickAsThieves: its everywhere i guess
ThickAsThieves: http://m.mtv.com/blogs/rapfix_post.rbml?id=2014/01/03/kanye-west-inspires-coinye-currency/
ozbot: MTV Mobile Blog Rapfix: Kanye West Inspires 'CoinYe' Currency
ThickAsThieves: http://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/read/screw-bitcoin-and-dogecoin-theres-a-new-kanye-west-themed-cryptocurrency-on-the-way
mircea_popescu: poor dogecoin hgolders
mircea_popescu: they're fucked.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'
mircea_popescu: m so happy the hot retardation core is moving away from bitcoin in this manner.
mircea_popescu: really the altchains are doing a lot for us.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00299998 = 3 BTC [+]
Duffer1: ever since coingen it's been impossible to read the alt forum
topace: havelock api has /r/trades
topace: to get trade history
the20year: Man, PPMs sure do get pricey
nubbins`: coinye
nubbins`: lel
jurov: https://www.bitstamp.net/ lol looky
nubbins`: honestly not sure about blacklilac's thread, tbh
nubbins`: i mean
nubbins`: if i was selling coins on the forum and some dude came in with scam accusations, i'd remove his posts too
jurov: why they thought it's good idea to have "and it's gone" 404 page
mircea_popescu: jurov whoa srsly ?
nubbins`: wait, wrong chan.
nubbins`: clever error pages are fucking brutal.
mircea_popescu: but why would it 404 the root ?
nubbins`: i guess because none of the default pages exist ;p
jurov: https://www.bitstamp.net/account/login/ works
ozbot: Login - Bitstamp
mircea_popescu: odd
nubbins`: at an old job, i was tasked with cleaning up a website that was having problems with sql injection attacks. so i changed a query string variable, and -- no shit -- was brought to a page that said this:
nubbins`: "oh, look! you can manipulate the query string! good for you, how clever!"
nubbins`: i actually had to borrow a co-worker so i could triple facepalm
the20year: was that a result of the injection attack?
nubbins`: nope, that was the way the site was designed.
the20year: ah
nubbins`: unprofessionalism aside, that's practically begging to be challenged
topace: !ticker h hmf
assbot: [HAVELOCK:HMF] 1D: 0.02400000 / 0.02460495 / 0.02480000 (312 shares, 7.67674477 BTC), 7D: 0.02000000 / 0.02376939 / 0.02539899 (1200 shares, 28.52327090 BTC), 30D: 0.01681006 / 0.02291871 / 0.02990000 (5734 shares, 131.41589732 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3000 @ 0.001 = 3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.00464675 = 0.1905 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 151 @ 0.00451593 = 0.6819 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 63 @ 0.00450152 = 0.2836 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.1008204 = 0.5041 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 218 @ 0.004494 = 0.9797 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00091782 = 1.6062 BTC [-]
Namworld: and it's gone... it's gone, it's all gone
Namworld: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TlPo0yCSa4
ozbot: South Park vs. Cafe Del Mar - And It's Gone (Johannes Dahlberg Financial Crisis Mash) - YouTube
ThickAsThieves: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/04/the-british-punk-band-that-fooled-reagan-thatcher-and-the-cia.html
ozbot: The British Punk Band That Fooled Reagan, Thatcher And The CIA - The Daily Beast
ThickAsThieves: (Crass)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00091602 = 2.9771 BTC [-]
topace: fuck
ThickAsThieves: ?
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1540997/plain/)
kakobrekla: !b 1 ✂︎
topace: every time i go to order from bitcoinstore.com the shipping price is tghrough the roof
kakobrekla: meh
ThickAsThieves: sniped
topace: Shipping: International Economy 1.740 BTC [$1,508.76]
topace: so i email them and they fix it
topace: but then the price drops so i dont order
topace: then a few days later, their shipping module is fucked again
ThickAsThieves: topace, it's time i should warn you
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin is volatile
topace: heh
topace: its not bitcoin volatility im worried about here
topace: is the fact that their website wants to charge me $1500 for shipping a $2000 order
topace: (nothing large/heavy)
ThickAsThieves: its a website's lack of ability to cope with it
topace: mostly small shit, like harddrives, security cameras, etc
the20year: shipping what?
topace: [13:14:41] <topace> mostly small shit, like harddrives, security cameras, etc
the20year: alot of companies have terrible shipping connections
the20year: We've had good luck with DHL
topace: yea well on bitcoinstore.com the only option that appears for me is fedex
topace: at $1500
topace: for my $2000 order
the20year: crazy
the20year: Overnight?
ThickAsThieves: gas sure is expensive
topace: no, just regular economy
ThickAsThieves: maybe they dont like going to canada
the20year: Where does it ship from?
nubbins`: fedex is great, but costly
nubbins`: they'll get you your package
the20year: Depends
nubbins`: but i can't recall ever having paid less than like $80 to ship something with them
the20year: we priced out costs last night on mailing a new type of PC case for miners, and it came to $9.50
bounce: a designed by ikea case, so it fits in an envelope?
the20year: A big big one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3111 @ 0.00091902 = 2.8591 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13648 @ 0.00091824 = 12.5321 BTC [-]
arij: the20year, a pc case for miners?
arij: pics?
the20year: Not yet
arij: renders? nothing?
the20year: getting the final version done
arij: i see
the20year: We have 3 prototypes
arij: its for GPUs?
the20year: We'll post pictures when we're ready to sell
the20year: YEs
arij: how many can it hold?
the20year: however many you want
arij: i am certainly interested
the20year: It's modular and stackable, so if you want 5 gpus per mobo, you can do it, or if you want 100 mobos with 200 psus and 500 GPUs , it'll do that too
arij: 5 per rig is what i have now
arij: i just bought some custom cases but i want to see what else is out there
the20year: These look like the others that are out there, but the actual function is different, and IMO better
the20year: Ben @ Buyahash has been looking for several cases to sell/distribute, and he's still talking to several major case companies, but in the mean time we decided we'd come up with our own design, and from what we made yesterday, we do believe it's superior in most ways to what's out there
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: http://bitbet.us/bet/619/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-2b-before-feb/
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty at or above 2B before Feb 2014
ThickAsThieves: 461.22262617btc bet on Yes
nubbins`: ;;diff
gribble: 1.4184813952626355E9
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 270 @ 0.00047499 = 0.1282 BTC [+]
nubbins`: would not bet no
ThickAsThieves: http://blogs.reuters.com/financial-regulatory-forum/2014/01/06/u-s-treasury-cautions-bitcoin-businesses-on-compliance-duties-advocate-cites-chilling-effect/
ozbot: U.S. Treasury cautions Bitcoin businesses on compliance duties, advocate cites ‘chilling effect’
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00091824 = 5.0044 BTC [-]
dexX7: hmm.. exactly the same article appeared about three weeks ago here: http://www.businessinsider.com/treasury-bitcoin-warning-letters-2013-12
ThickAsThieves: interesting
BingoBoingo: Business Insider is basically buzzfeed with different recycled listicle topics
dexX7: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Craig-Wood
ozbot: Kate Craig-Wood - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47 BTC [+]
jurov: http://explo.yt/category/MPEx ;)
ozbot: MPEx - serialized delusions
Apocalyptic: "By JuroV on Monday 13 January 2014, 14:17" damn it's the 13th already ?
pankkake: also in a weird order, 2 then 1
jurov: orly :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 253 @ 0.00303178 = 0.767 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.003033 = 0.188 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5790 @ 0.00091853 = 5.3183 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13360 @ 0.00091919 = 12.2804 BTC [+]
jurov: so first 5 parts are done for now, gents. spread the word
jurov: options/bonds upcoming
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00091714 = 4.494 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.04999999 = 0.5 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30500 @ 0.00091535 = 27.9182 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00449899 = 0.135 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell mircea_popescu I appreciate the mention.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: I don't much care that I lost money when Auburn lost, but I dislike that the chaos which could have been neer spread.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18818 @ 0.00091304 = 17.1816 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00090944 = 8.7306 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.46034333 = 2.7621 BTC [-] {4}
benkay: Diablo-D3: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/01/07_paleo-in-portland.html
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.0009101 = 6.8713 BTC [+]