pankkake: so no serious answer! are you afraid to admit you're using excel?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0028828 = 0.5766 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: i'm doing reports in perl
KRS1: thats what its fo! i love perl
pankkake: why run? I'm thinking I'd do pretty much the same
BingoBoingo: I'm kind of curious if any line betting operations are going to fold up tomorrow morning.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 15 @ 0.0242 = 0.363 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 17 @ 0.02419623 = 0.4113 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 27 @ 0.00644996 = 0.1741 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: jurov: Because so many people are betting on Auburn. Auburn is given odds that make it a great value pick. Since most BTC line betting operations pull lines off of USA Today instead of letting odds play on their own and collecting their vig, if Auburn wins I imagine at least a few won't be able to pay winnings.
BingoBoingo: I imagine such a black Tuesday outcome would be great publicity for BitBet though.
mircea_popescu: i would imagine all of them strictly consist of one derp, his .5 btc budget and his dreams and aspirations
mircea_popescu: in which case some nice bandwagon effect would probably do what you say sooner or later
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I've been putting money on Auburn at as many books as I can that haven't been rather conclusively labeled scam yet. Cheaper exercise than the one you did with Patrick Harnett.
mircea_popescu: yeah well... it's easily forgotten that at the time the replacement cost of 500btc was like five grand
BingoBoingo: Well... Yeah. As the years go on though the relative impressiveness of the story will grow simply because n00bs can't remember single dollar digit btc.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.12699999 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: noobs also don't remember the entire "btc rating agency" bullshit coming out of his inflamed brain, and consequently don't remember reason #5498045986 why bitcoin didn't go to shit before they had a chance to hear of it.
BingoBoingo: Well, yeah. Breaking one of the "big guys" and firmly placing yourself as the bigger and more solvent guy
jurov: it's there but i never did line betting, what does this mean?
jurov: there's 4.2BTC bet on?
mircea_popescu: jurov line betting vs mutual betting is like bucket shop vs stock exchange. in the line model all trades are against the house.
jurov: i know how it works
mircea_popescu: it's as if anyone buying shares bought from the nyse itself, and anyone selling sold to nyse itself
jurov: but am interested how to read the stats
BingoBoingo: jurov: It means an Auburn win returns roughly quadruple your initial bet. Looks like similar odds I've been buying, but I've heard that site was scam already.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i love it how they never advertise their house limit, too
mike_c: 11 point spread and 4.2 money line? that does sound attractive.
mircea_popescu: i imagine if someone sends 10k btc on their stated odds all sorts of fun ensues.
jurov: they certainly have some limit
BingoBoingo: +320 on Auburn means you would win 320 dollars on a 100 dollar ticket. -380 on Florida State means you would win 100/380 on your 100 dollar ticket
mircea_popescu: such ignorant notation too. negative and fractional, same thing. blergh
BingoBoingo: mike_c: There are much better probably scam sports books out there
mike_c: hah. the vegas line is +295.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: I wouldn't take the spread though. On value bets liek this ML tends to be better in the long run
mike_c: too many nerds on bitbet for football
BingoBoingo: mike_c: I did the bitbet too on both sides, but they are closed
ozbot: BitBet - BTC will hit $1000 without dropping to $100
mike_c: so looks like it got one bet other than you
mike_c: i agree with mp, once football bets are popular on bitbet we will know the gold rush is over.
mircea_popescu: certainly not this silliness where bitbet lays a quarter million bucks on any diff bet easy,
mircea_popescu: and you struggle to get 1k together on football prime time events
BingoBoingo: mike_c: I don't know if they will ever be too popular. The problem of tracking a whole season seems better suited to bucket shops and line betting operations. Marquee events and championships that can get traffic though should do better on the BitBet model though.
jurov: i dunno, i can easily imagine football junkies prefer betting where they know the win in advance
BingoBoingo: Sports betting I've come to see is kind of a niche market.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ideally it evolves as an exchange (ie, a myriad actually honest operators do line betting and promotion, and then meet on bitbet and hedge in a liquid market)
jurov: even if mutual may be more profitable, effective, intelligent etc.
BingoBoingo: Maybe even more navel gazing than bitcoin.
mike_c: yeah, all those prop bets with terrible odds at the bookie would be much better on bitbet like "team to win the championship" or super bowl props.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure, but given how often the gambling type (the kind who are so quick to forgive SealswithClubs for their hack) go for the familiar over the good it might be a decade. At least Bitcoin has plenty of time to fix this.
mike_c: and bitbet is welcome for the audit :) my fee is 0.061 btc.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no but the idea is, the ops themselves have more of a clue. obviously as it is now, every failed seo expert/14 yo running his own site this won't be the case
mircea_popescu: but these will lose their shirt within months, not decades.
BingoBoingo: They might stretch it out a while. People can be irrational longer than we expect as Usagi being able to list a silver instrument of some indeterminate form on a scam exchange illustrates.
mircea_popescu: so the model for sports is, there are say 10-12 respectable bookie type sites, which do all the forum spamming and general dicking around with the punters,
mircea_popescu: then they actually trade their takes on bitbet. say one got 50 btc on yes 12 on no, the other 5 on yes 64 on no etc
mircea_popescu: they can't sanely hold on to this, so they all bet on the yes/no bitbet according to their book
BingoBoingo: Sure, like the cloning intrade but actually backing it on BitBet which is real
mike_c: that would work better with bitbet v2 without a linear weight
mircea_popescu: allows people to be entrepreneurs, allows risk to be correctly handled, allows punters to not have to think and be fleeced for it.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: BitBet now works fine. Just when you write a sports bet make sure to not end the weight at 1
mircea_popescu: mike_c they're all in the same timeline so they really don't care about the weight
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10946 @ 0.00091265 = 9.9899 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: 5 minute differences or w/e may be the round-trip time for "x got injured" among the bookies won't show up in the bitbet weight anyway
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Sports bets do benefit from some sort of attached weight though, especially in hand egg because of injuries, arrests, and fat athletes having heart attacks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4643 BTC [-]
mike_c: I agree weight of some type is important. but we beat that horse dead a couple weeks ago.
mike_c: next time i beat the horse i will have a simulator in hand to show how the alternate model works.
ozbot: BitBet - BFL will deliver 28nm before Jan 6 2014
BingoBoingo: I dunno. Around here people will pay you to take a horse. We really need to get to eating them already.
BingoBoingo: Inaba probably laid out for yes, but obviously doesn't have the capital he had last year...
mircea_popescu: i imagine throwing away btc is a lot more painful than it used to be too
mircea_popescu: once it sprinted from 30 to 1k people see 10k with different eyes
ozbot: BitBet - Simona Halep to win Roland Garros
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you're better at this than me, can you get me what the bookies say on this prop ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: A lot of fiat books are showing longer odds that Halep wins. This is the sort of bet though where outcomes other than yes/no might make BitBet more interesting (meaning for example a single French open bet with the option to bet on each competitor, ie you run bets like the pony track does for some events)
pankkake: not enough nerds on bitbet for starcraft
BingoBoingo: Bitcoin tennis fans aren't rich enough to balance your love for her tits though
mircea_popescu: how is a single bet for 6 people better than 6 yes/no bets ? cause larger pool ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00091285 = 7.0746 BTC [+]
pankkake: I thought tennis was the sport for rich people. like golf
pankkake: btc poor is teenagers with gpus
BingoBoingo: Well, consider a futures bet for X wins championsip of such and such league. Where the teams competing are fixed well in advanced of the seasons start. 30 baseball teams for example, you can bet on anyof them to win the world series. Maybe the pot isn't bigger, but having all of the options in one pool makes pricing risk more straight forward.
BingoBoingo: Close that bet when the season starts and as the season progresses let bets open for the outcomes of individual teams.
mircea_popescu: how does it make pricing more straightforward ? i thought it makes it a nightmare
ArsKisS: they pay some good looking dividends and then skyrocket
pankkake: "A consortium is an association of two or more individuals" ok I guess that works
BingoBoingo: Well, depending on how you approach the problem of pricing in that situation it could be more of a nightmare of it could be a glorious consilodated market.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo let's try and model. three teams, a, b and c. a has 20 btc on it to win, b 15, c 27.
mircea_popescu: cause if the bet is "a wins" y/n, then you deffo know what the odds are.
ArsKisS: is there a way you can see whole cryptostocks history somehow
ArsKisS: this is silly that the history is just couple of pages long
mircea_popescu: and isn't y/n more straightforward ? not that a lot of adding shit is impossible to do.
mircea_popescu: ArsKisS they know their history won't ever look good, so why publish it too much.
ArsKisS: mircea_popescu, but it's about MY history
BingoBoingo: Break that into three yes/no bets though a b and c can all have bets such that all teams are favored to win. That creates an opportunity for great arbitrage, but... This is Bitcoin and people still buy "mining"
ArsKisS: mircea_popescu, talking about Account -> Legend
ArsKisS: only shows last 50 transactions
BingoBoingo: ArsKisS: Well cryptostocks is a piece of shit yes.
BingoBoingo: Vircurex was hacked twice and noone bother to take the the cryptostocks wallet from that same sever out of pity
ArsKisS: BingoBoingo, yea, kinda. but some of the stocks are good :/
kakobrekla: thats everlasting question, what is good, what is evil
BingoBoingo: Bitbet is good, math is evil, Abaci for everyone
ArsKisS: how many markets there is btw?
ArsKisS: cryptostocks, havelock and?
BingoBoingo: ArsKisS: Everything is just one big market. Within the one market though there are a lot of alleys where muggins happen. If you aren't careful you might even meet Rapin' Jameis
ArsKisS: kakobrekla, last one sounds extra shady, two first I've heard something before.
pankkake: bitcoin-assets.com still has btctttc too
pankkake: at least the shares aren't losing value!
kakobrekla: ArsKisS you can also lose money on pico stocks
ArsKisS: kakobrekla, nah, i rather keep them
ozbot: Source Code in TV and Films
BingoBoingo: ArsKisS: You have like two minutes left to bet it on Handegg tonight
knotwork: Does it still cost 30 BTC for an emporium seat?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00091285 = 9.9501 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00199998 / 0.00246786 / 0.00333333 (651 shares, 1.61 BTC)
mircea_popescu: but it;'s a physically settled future, you can obtain euros in bitcoin central.
pankkake: would be better if davout_ delivered the bills on your doorstep, in a metal briefcase
mircea_popescu: yeah, because people can afford to pay a a coupla grand for airplane tickets + hotels + etc
BingoBoingo: Wait, I though Jurov was carrying the breifcase
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00091265 = 9.6285 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so, we're doing some hardware upgrades on mpex infrastructure starting Jan 8th at 3am GMT
☟︎ pankkake: blinded by greed, they'll just open the thing without question
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 86 @ 0.00449709 = 0.3867 BTC [+] {2}
KRS1: funny, some are helpless to it i noticed..darwin has a solution for them too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00091265 = 8.3964 BTC [-]
KRS1: got an interesting email in ref. to mastercoin
ozbot: Arbitrage with mastercoin - Pastebin.com
KRS1: im interested in moving toward an algorithmic trading style..not sure where to start and i dont want to write my own bot from scratch
BingoBoingo: KRS1: I'm more convinced that as Bitcoin matures people will progress through more and more advanced holdign styles
mike_c: taking out that one hard drive that was holding the whole thing up? :D
KRS1: BingoBoingo: yeah the markets have to calm down a bit
KRS1: everyones complaining of manipulation
BingoBoingo: KRS1: I'm not talking about that. The BTC/Fiat interface is boring and overdone. I'm thinking applications of BTC tht take advantage of its function as a store of value (ie the most popular use of BTC)
BingoBoingo: Oh, Auburn is leading the handegg BCS thing 14-3 right nao
benkay: Just what /can/ one do with BTC held cold, BingoBoingo? Soundslike one o yer classic FR scams.
BingoBoingo: I think 3 sounds like a good over under for how many line betting ventures might fold tomorrw
BingoBoingo: benkay: Who said holding has to be cold. I'm thinking Fidelity bonds and such. One of the few people who dealt with Inputs.io and didn't get fucked was Dooglus who made TradeFortress keep a bond with him in exchange for him accepting deposits though TF's platform. Such things seem a natural growth from GPG contracts and other crypto goodness.
benkay: TF put btc on reserve, or promised to pay?
BingoBoingo: Million dollar BTC doesn't happen because Bitcoin is a better gum buying tool than a quarter at the gumball machine. It happens through a lot of BTC being tied up in contracts.
BingoBoingo: benkay: As I understand he made a deposit to Dooglus in advance
benkay: those coins have to be 'cold' until that contracts terms are invoked, correct?
BingoBoingo: Because such a deposit existed Dooglus was able to extract exactly what he was owed as opposed to submitting himself to the arbitrary fractional repayment/settlement mess TF devised.
BingoBoingo: benkay: Of course coins in such an arrangement have to stay cold.
BingoBoingo: The value of the coins though is as a store.
benkay: the Dooglus property in question being just-dice?
benkay: BingoBoingo: why did j-d have a dependency on inputs.io in the first place?
BingoBoingo: benkay: They didn't have any dependency. They just wanted more deposit options and TF was willing to deposit a fidelity bond to cover deposits through inputs.io
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2090 @ 0.001 = 2.09 BTC [+]
benkay: j-d made themselves an inputs.io account to which IIO victims could send btc without blockchain confirmations or such, and the fidelity bond was to cover however that account
benkay: however *much* that account *was holding when IIO went down
BingoBoingo: That roughly seems to be it. I've traversed quite a bit of this handle of vodka I trekked through the polar vortex to acquire, but it sounds right. Depositors just weren't inputs.io victims yet.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2117 @ 0.00091285 = 1.9325 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: benkay there was no depending, tf was in search of adding value to his otherwise not particularly useful service
benkay: all webwallet users are victims, they just don't know it yet.
mircea_popescu: associating with things like jd made sense in that perspective. doog had enough sense to keep it at arms length
BingoBoingo: Every year a new batch of people makes that clear.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.465 BTC [+]
benkay: mircea_popescu there were dependencies if j-d had to have a surety bond
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 42 @ 0.04999999 = 2.1 BTC [+]
benkay: BingoBoingo: anchors aren't working today
BingoBoingo: benkay: It is the bottom post on that page
benkay: well, in ffox anyways.
mircea_popescu: mp grins at BingoBoingo's link, knowing full well he was the original investor that insisted dooglus use a gpg scheme to certify investment movements.
BingoBoingo: I dunno that I was the one to tell that to dooglus.
ozbot: BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC)
ozbot: Loper OS » Cardano Prototype Tidbits: TRNG Boards.
BingoBoingo: pankkake: I imagine this time last year he would have given Blockbet.net an A+++
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9570 @ 0.00091287 = 8.7362 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: ah just you wait - someone's going to send in the .3 butts or w/e for a cardano and scream scam that it doesn't mine
benkay: then nsa's name will be trashed on the forums forever
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm looking through my investment records (ie staring wistfully at my vodka) and dun see any record of me having invested in just-dice
pankkake: don't forget mp talks in the third person
BingoBoingo: pankkake: I've tried translating MP a few times. Talking in the third person is the least tricky thing MP does.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC [+]
pankkake: I have abandonned my trilema TL;DR project :(
mircea_popescu: sometimes he talks in french. other times he talks in odd words only.
pankkake: that bitbet think will never die
benkay: more like if you think its too long you probably don't have it in you to actually read it ;)
mircea_popescu: i thought he was doing more like a public service thing
benkay: kid probably makes 2x that a year.
benkay: he can yell for six months at that rate before
mircea_popescu: benkay i thought it's diff kids carrying the torch. perhaps not.
benkay: a self catalyzing bitchfest?
benkay: it's like a smouldering log - but whence the o2?
mircea_popescu: i would guess a large section of the us poor has never encountered this situation where an entity pointedly doesn't give a shit about them
pankkake: unless they get enough retweets
mircea_popescu: case 1 : you go to an interview, they never call you back. you apply for a loan, they never call you back. you give a girl your number, she never calls you
mircea_popescu: case 2 : you got to an interview, they tell you you're fucking retarded and get lost
mircea_popescu: you apply for a loan, they tell you you're a fucking prole and you may never ever have a loan
pankkake: once I went to an interview, they never called me back, but it was mutual
CuWireBeard: Oh no rejection, however will a person press on!
BingoBoingo: Oh, Auburn is still winning at half time 21-10. However will line betting survive.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00091265 = 4.1982 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.00456948 = 0.4432 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.04999999 = 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 271 @ 0.00294 = 0.7967 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10663 @ 0.00091323 = 9.7378 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3745 @ 0.00091344 = 3.4208 BTC [+]
ozbot: FBI Drops Law Enforcement as 'Primary' Mission
benkay: they see the writing on the wall w/r/t drug seizures funding their operations, i gather.
mircea_popescu: According to a recent Pew Research Center survey, more than five-in-ten members of the public and roughly six-in-ten members of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), a nonpartisan membership organization and think tank specializing in U.S. foreign policy, agree that the United States plays a less important role around the world than it did a decade ago.
mircea_popescu: jeez, and here i thought i'm a lone prophet in a sea of denial
Duffer1: the northern and coastal states
Duffer1: did you see the top gear where the guys drove through alabama/georgia?
ozbot: Run out of Alabama - Offensive cars - Top Gear - Series 9 - BBC - YouTube
KRS1: top gear is great, u.s. version sux
ozbot: 1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 1170 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.4584% in 6d 22h 38m 28s
Duffer1: btw, top gear UK is a great show even if you're not into cars
pankkake: lol reminds me of redneck rampage
Duffer1: oh shit i completely forgot about that game
ozbot: Redneck Rampage Collection for download $5.99 - GOG.com
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1862 @ 0.00091265 = 1.6994 BTC [-]
benkay: you guys i hate fucking with legacy js
benkay: will fuck with not legacy js for btc
benkay: feed a poor bitfag who wants only to work and some btc for his efforts
pankkake: that is true of any code really
benkay: will fuck with not legacy * for btc
benkay: js is somehow worse though - if tests are guardrails, ecma is like the salt flats
pankkake: do you get coding jobs in btc?
benkay: 900 MPH GO DON'T WORRY ABOUT SURFACE ROUGHNESS
benkay: i want to book all revenue in btc
benkay: don't really want a job though - want more to have projects to deliver for fixed bids.
benkay: heh and what is "this"
pankkake: I fear, even more in the btc world, that you'd have to be very specific about the deliverable
benkay: huge risk in that style of development.
pankkake: that's the nice thing about being a slave (or as other call it, employee); you don't have to care about it too much
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00091502 = 10.7515 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: hard to seize opportunities and grow power base from behind a desk
benkay: hard to get close to capital wielders without desks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4186 @ 0.00091641 = 3.8361 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.0046 = 0.368 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.44 = 1.32 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00091641 = 4.7195 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Looks like line betting lives to see another day
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00091641 = 3.7115 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.0009172 = 11.4191 BTC [+] {2}
KRS1: idk enough to say if its correct or not
BingoBoingo: KRS1: I'm the person who bet on Auburn tonight, so I dunno if I am the right person to ask.
benkay: it's rather ingenious - they've managed to break most of the good features of bitcoin.
KRS1: lol benkay i was starting to think about that
KRS1: the investment group i belong to funded some of their project
KRS1: and all along i wasnt on board with it
BingoBoingo: KRS1: The fact the game wasn't decided until the last two minutes though supports my assertion that at the odds offered Auburn ML was a hell of a value.
KRS1: of all the projects that came across our plates, this one had the most negative comments from sources within the bitcoin community so i was unreluctant to put any weight behind it
twizt: lot of netsplits lately
benkay: mastercoin is the gone-too-far surreal bitcoin
benkay: bitcoin is stupid and weird enough: "here! an arbitrary token! it's cryptographically secure and shit!"
benkay: the gentlefolk over at mastercoin are all "it's not enough! ALL PROPERTY MUST BE REPRESENTED WITH SATOSHEEEEEES OR SOMETHING."
benkay: property etc need enforcement. property *is* enforcement. it's enforcement of whose property a thing is.
BingoBoingo: It's like TAT's blockchain drm suggestion earlier. Blockchains are only practical solutions in so many cases.
benkay: all the colored coins in the world aren't going to keep you in a house the local duke wants for himself.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 181 @ 0.001 = 0.181 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11890 @ 0.0009192 = 10.9293 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]
benkay: a little childish but a good text
benkay: i imagine you're not rooted in some oo philosophy?
benkay: tee hee BingoBoingo you're going to have such fun
BingoBoingo: benkay: Nah, I don't really have roots anywhere I can't erase with sufficient ETOH
benkay: and maybe just emacs and elisp is fine, but i'm no computing pedagogical expert
benkay: (you'll notice how few of those there are)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2392 @ 0.00092405 = 2.2103 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: I have classroom evaluations that show I'm better than mediocre at pedagogy. The problem is WTF do I have to teach. For one class I did the first half I did was Aristotelian syllogisms and the other was predicate logic for jocks.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
benkay: programming is a trade, not a topic.
benkay: to be taught, it must be learned.
BingoBoingo: I'm not doing a bad pace on the python, but the language is feeling constraining
benkay: you can diddle Hy on python
benkay: learn you a lisp in your native libs
benkay: i'da done that if i'd stuck with python
benkay: and even though asciilifeform hates hates hates hates clojure, i think it's an acceptable lisp for mortals who haven't actually played with symbolics machines while we wait for his lazy quixotic ass to make us the modern lisp machine that we deserve
benkay: i'm glad to hack in a lisp with which i can make jars to stick on windows shops servers for cold hard cash, nahmean?
benkay: i'll leave the rusty stradivarius for the man who can actually play it while i play scales on my plastic 'violin' over here, okay?
BingoBoingo: benkay: I don't have very positive feeling for the JVM, I think releasing it was a low point for Sun. I say this as someone who in their first job after dishwashing had a Sun Ultra 80 as their work computer because it was they one that was available.
BingoBoingo: I dunno why no one else wanted it, the Sun monitor had really high DPI for being several years outdated in -04
benkay: but lisp is so awesome that rich hickey wrapped it around the jvm and made it almost invisible
benkay: lisp: best syntactic sugar ever.
benkay: of course the jvm does rear her ugly head above the sweet peaceful waters of rich hickeys dreamy-calm programming environment from time to time.
BingoBoingo: Maybe I should get myself another of SPARC workstation
KRS1: those old sun workstations were gems
BingoBoingo: I was largely a fan of the permanent dent the monitor left in the folding table that served as my desk there.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2603 @ 0.00092405 = 2.4053 BTC [+]
KRS1: whatcha got for cereal
nubbins`: cheap as fuck and SO DELICIOUS
KRS1: weird never heard of them
Duffer1: must be some weird canadia nonsense
nubbins`: yeah, i'm only now realizing that apparently they only exist in the UK and Canada
nubbins`: you guys are missing out, big time
KRS1: milk in bags? weird
nubbins`: also, i think bagged milk is a mainland canada thing
nubbins`: you can't buy bagged milk here in nl
KRS1: Do you get your beer in bags too eh?
nubbins`: i get my beer from the kitchen faucet like a normal person
KRS1: Canada is good for ginger ale Canada Dry mm
KRS1: I knew you guys were alcoholic beer drinkers! I saw the movie Strange Brew
nubbins`: srsly, you guys have never tried shreddies :(
Duffer1: i eat quacker life, looks exactly the same as your nestle shreddies
KRS1: Rice Krispies, Kix, Cocoa Pebbles ftw oh and Capn Crunch
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1405 @ 0.00092405 = 1.2983 BTC [+]
nubbins`: capn crunch is ok but it tears your mouth to ribbons
Duffer1: the trick to capn crunch is to let it set for about 5 minutes
nubbins`: i was on a big oatmeal crunch kick for a while
nubbins`: but honey shreddies is the only one i buy anymore
Duffer1: i buy like 4 random boxes of my favorites and just mix em all together
nubbins`: so it turns out that i should either start making breat at 4am, or change the feeding schedule for my sourdough starter
nubbins`: neither is smoking weed, getting your dick sucked, irc, bitcoin, etc
BingoBoingo: Neither a fairly chemically pure combination of grain alcohol and distilled water. In this instance I'm choosing purity of essence.
Diablo-D3: no, getting your dick sucked is paleo
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Double down, is film enough. What about in a CT machine
KRS1: getting your dick sucked is heaven
BingoBoingo: Seriously though Diablo-D3 White bread is awesome
KRS1: ever since my first bj i dont think anything in my life has ever compared.
KRS1: night guys gotta get some rest
nubbins`: interesting point of note, i created my sourdough starter from scratch over 16 months ago
nubbins`: and have somehow managed to keep it alive this entire time
bounce: that's pretty cool. except that when you're done you have sourdough bread.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4948 @ 0.00092226 = 4.5633 BTC [-]
nubbins`: especially when made with multigrain flour
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: For most people. I imagine some people though have the misfortune of geography giving them a bunch of microflora that just taste like shit.
nubbins`: realistically tho, just start with name-brand whole wheat flour and your starter will taste like everyone else's in the country/region
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: I imagine some regions though can't be good. Take Ohio as an example. For most of the 20th century thier rivers were flamable.
nubbins`: trivial pursuit one xmas, my mom is asked to name a state that begins and ends with O
BingoBoingo: That doesn't seem like an inaccurate label
BingoBoingo: There having been many times betting on college football games I have scream thing semantically similar to Oklahomo at the TV having bet for, against, or both for an outcome where the Oklahomos are on top
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.0046 = 0.1656 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2354 @ 0.00008937 = 0.2104 BTC [-] {3}
Diablo-D3: OKLLAAHHHOOOMMOOO, WHERE THE FAGGOOOTTS ROOAAAAAAAM
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.03499999 = 0.35 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 955 @ 0.00045145 = 0.4311 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7912 @ 0.00091848 = 7.267 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 303 @ 0.001 = 0.303 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3676 @ 0.00091806 = 3.3748 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00091486 = 6.77 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: 1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 1113 blocks | Estimated Change: 15.4948% in 6d 12h 28m 29s
jurov: oh #bitcoin-assets, the place to go for holy wars about lisp and cereals
jurov: not holy wars wars, admittedly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.001 = 0.15 BTC [+]
ozbot: Dull Surprise - MST3K - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.0245 = 0.1225 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 50 @ 0.024 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.46 = 4.6 BTC [+]
jurov: * mircea_popescu had just grepped the log for lisp, found 0 hits :D rly?
jurov: good idea sometimes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "The picture book Hair in Funny Places is intended to reassure kids about to go through puberty. With pictures of a young girl's insides being taken over by grotesque furry monsters representing hormones."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00091265 = 1.5515 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.450125 = 7.202 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 157 @ 0.02479958 = 3.8935 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.46 = 2.3 BTC [+]
Namworld: You know, I seem to see many co start accepting Bitcoin stating because of numerous demands from customers. But I can't help but feel those Bitcoin customers are over-represented simply because they are very vocal about it and push it to all businesses they know.
mircea_popescu: this is why i don't really encourage the sort of hollow millitantism the "community" seems to think is the one important thing to do, and i doubt anyone's smart to encourage it.
mircea_popescu: you gain nothing by frustrating the people you want to work with
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [+]
ozbot: I’ll tell you what impressed me today. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11056 @ 0.00091333 = 10.0978 BTC [+]
Neil: mircea_popescu: Why is bitbet proposition "betsofbitco.in to shut down in 2014 Rejection reason: Too late." rejected? It has 1 year to run.
mircea_popescu: isn't this that scammy venue that pushed the original bfl bets back in march ?
mircea_popescu: well... i would guess what they mean is that by now it doesn't matter anymore. it might as well be closed.
mircea_popescu: purely technical argument, how would you establish it did in fact close ? whether someone somewhere can afford shared hosting to put some html up for the rest of the year ?
Neil: Several independent credible complaints about lack of payout, or the site just goes offline
Neil: I'm pissed because they've not resolved several bets from 2013 still
Neil: (though they've paid out several, so it's not as if they're planning a run, yet)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 96 @ 0.46648937 = 44.783 BTC [+] {5}
Neil: I've decided to get out though; bitbet is more transparent, being maintained (BoB not updated in 3 years), resolves fairly promptly, and now seems to have more interest.
ozbot: BitBet - BFL will deliver ASIC devices before March 1st
Neil: Well until recently they had a higher total bettage in all I think. Now they look like they've died (check it out).
Neil: Recently == 9 months ago-ish
mircea_popescu: lol ok, 9 months ago bitbet was 2 months old or some shit
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty at or above 2B before Feb 2014
Neil: What's with all the recent sports bets? Trying to get focus there? They don't seem to be attracting much interest.
Neil: You had a 500 in the bet you linked above, the BFL one
Neil: Lol, the payout address is 1BUST
Neil: Oh you did the other one?
Neil: Are bitbet employees permitted to bet PA?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00091284 = 9.0371 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: Neil how will you verify who bets ? they're permitted by default, as you'd never know
Neil: Of course. Just wondering if there was a "policy".
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell neil well my policy is to not make untenable policies
mircea_popescu: honestly the odds for the no side don't look so bad now
ozbot: 1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 1100 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.6108% in 6d 12h 24m 40s
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00091577 = 9.9361 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00363333 = 0.109 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 43 @ 0.00340147 = 0.1463 BTC [-] {2}
ArsKisS: or just project with nobody that make a website?
mircea_popescu: "Plutus is managed by a crypto-currency enthusiast and risk management specialist located in Canada with 10+ years of experience in studying/working as an actuary with relevant experience in statistics/mathematics, trading, fund management and entrepreneurship. "
mircea_popescu: also known as a 14 yo aspiring student from mainlaind china with a space alien treasure hunter millionaire friend
ArsKisS: mircea_popescu, sounds legit
ArsKisS: btw they have 100k or 1M shares to sell?
mircea_popescu: among numerous other things, bitcoin has been a fascinating exercise in displaying just how clueless people are when it comes to... who they are.
ArsKisS: it's a bit confusing how it's put on cryptostocks
ArsKisS: you should have a youtube channel "angry bitcoin nerd" where you rate businesses
ArsKisS: mircea_popescu, you should expand!
ozbot: [WTS] Casascius coins.
ArsKisS: just take one episode for one scammer "business"
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 5000 @ 0.002 = 10 BTC [-]
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: pascale used to have a roommate who would stock up on "storm bacon" whenever bad weather was coming
mircea_popescu: nubbins` anything deeper than random muppets trading forum posts there ?
nubbins`: because, y'know, you might need to eat a pound of bacon when the power goes out
ArsKisS: where do you need that storm for?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: nah, just a bit lelly because i have the accused's home address. keeping an eye on it 8)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 146 @ 0.0045054 = 0.6578 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: anyway, there is something satisfying about a rich southern breakfast as the storm rages outside , but my bacon comment was mostly in-context joke re the scriptures burning stuff
nubbins`: do not eat the flesh of the swine, for it is too delicious and you will not stop
nubbins`: i ground a kilo of pork shoulder into sausages the other day and forgot to add any salt or spices :(
gribble: Time since last block: 3 minutes and 43 seconds
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | None based on data since last change | 1858132456.52 based on data for last three days
kakobrekla: >The intention of this thread is to post analysis on short to medium term fiat/BTC price developments, scenarios, portfolio allocation, etc. what fits the topic. No double bottoms, ad hominem, trolling or low level comments. As usual, your post will be deleted if not conforming to guidelines above.
kakobrekla: first self reply starts with > Now I am smoking Cohiba Piramides, which is quite nice in the premium midsize category (75 minutes).
nubbins`: Diablo-D3: i was too excited. i had it all mixed up and everything, just forgot to sprinkle it over the meat before feeding it.
kakobrekla: more clues, it continiues with: > No wine. Even if I did, it would be port, the only kind that goes with cigars.
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: you can always slice the casings over and try again
nubbins`: nod. considered it. i'll probably just spice them while they're cooking tho
nubbins`: i ended up aborting the sausage and just making a pile of ground pork with the second half, which i did spice
nubbins`: i cheated and googled. isn't that the guy who was compiling the "bitcoin most richest" list?
nubbins`: TBH never would have guessed in a million years
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 36 @ 0.02479988 = 0.8928 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: nah, i don't know that guy from moses
kakobrekla: nah, nubbins` spoiled it, its tortilla dude
nubbins`: ^ did i post that last night? can't recall
Duffer1: i feel like posting that in the mintspare thread
ozbot: 1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 1094 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.6013% in 6d 11h 40m 2s
ozbot: Bitcoin Difficulty and Hashrate Chart - BitcoinWisdom
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | None based on data since last change | 1858132456.52 based on data for last three days
mircea_popescu: "there is no future. for sometime in january, it went vertical"
nubbins`: i was told it's because a lot of kittens are born in cardboard boxes, but our cat came from a farm and she loves 'em. i think it's just because there's a bit of give to the bottoms, and they can dig claws into 'em fairly easily
nubbins`: half-seriously considering forking "fleececoin" and you have to pay 0.01 btc to download the client
mircea_popescu: if they burn for a year straight that'll be decent performance.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.001 = 0.25 BTC [+]
Duffer1: it's quite amazing how reliable that trend is
Duffer1: i guess i'm still new enough to be surprised
Duffer1: the only way that could happen is if their monarchs are real and ready
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.00469997 = 0.2491 BTC [+] {3}
ozbot: BFL Monarch - Delivery Dates
mircea_popescu: seems about as likely as that chick last night actually being a faerie
nubbins`: interesting to note, fairy lore is taken very seriously by old timers here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5312 @ 0.00091845 = 4.8788 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: apparently, they've given up even on censoring their forums
Duffer1: it's hard to damn up the ocean
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3488 @ 0.00092041 = 3.2104 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: not on the internet. something awful's been doing it for two decades.
nubbins`: my friend works at a hardware store and was explaining this fairy stuff to the younger workers
nubbins`: they thought he was full of shit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00296489 = 0.2965 BTC [+]
nubbins`: so he started asking every customer with grey hair why one would carry bread in one's pocket when walking in the woods
nubbins`: without fail, the answer was an "are you stupid?" look, followed by "to keep the fairies away"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00296489 = 1.4824 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.00296489 = 0.2105 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0029808 = 0.5962 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 151 @ 0.0029808 = 0.4501 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7562 @ 0.00092041 = 6.9601 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: the greed is just too overhwhelming when considering "Well we could just hash with these things for a few weeks, right?"
Duffer1: imo it's still likely hashfast
Duffer1: even if it's just inhouse "testing"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00298089 = 0.1938 BTC [+]
Duffer1: i can't find anyone else, but that doesn't really mean much
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 319 @ 0.00298999 = 0.9538 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1106 @ 0.0029999 = 3.3179 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 151 @ 0.00299997 = 0.453 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.00299998 = 0.117 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6911 @ 0.00092041 = 6.361 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6689 @ 0.00092275 = 6.1723 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 350 @ 0.00166667 = 0.5833 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0045102 = 0.451 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: alternatively of course it's that top secret beijing govt project all the talk was about
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.1014009 = 1.014 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: Spitzer caught sucking Lis Smith’s toes in topless hot tub romp | New York Post
mircea_popescu: someone needs to explain these people to the rest of the world.
ThickAsThieves: "Sleazy Eliot Spitzer turned a resort hot tub into a steamy love cauldron over the weekend "
mircea_popescu: the best part is “It was gross,” said a hotel witness, and who walked over to catch an eyeful.
mircea_popescu: i mean, coming out of the sand niggers i could see complete barbarism of the sort.
mircea_popescu: but the new york post talking of public fucking in these terms is disgraceful,
ThickAsThieves: "The disgraced Spitzer — infamous for wearing his signature black knee socks while having sex with hookers — appears to have a bit of a foot fetish as well, according to onlookers."
mircea_popescu: no dude. us liberalism = topless women are disgusting and feet stink
mircea_popescu: we're in 1800 subsaharan africa nao, under the englightened leadership of the least literate group of ignoramuses ever to grace the light of day
ThickAsThieves: i dont think we're sposed to take this website seriously
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it's one of the oldest and most circulated us papers.
ThickAsThieves: well i'm viewing their prize-winning bikini celeb gallery now
the20year: in corporate rule , is htere a way to create/manage a company with a board of directors or advisors to help guide the company and protect shareholders, even if the issuer has majority stake in it?
the20year: rihana is from barbados? Didn't know that
rbonestell: I've pinged the havelock channel already, does anyone here know how I can get price history data for charts from havelock? Maybe someone here wrote assbot?
mircea_popescu: you can get data from him, see the website (it's in the chan topic)
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves did i say it's unauthorised then ? i did. did i say i hope they get sued ? i don't recall
rbonestell: mircea_popescu, is that just MPEX connectivity?
rbonestell: sorry, does bitcoin-assets.com only have connectivity info for mpex?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves more subtle than that : humiliation to feed the observation that fiat can either submit willingly or be forced to submit to our standards.
mircea_popescu: kinda unfortunate that in this case fiat world's ignorance provides a white piece of bread for some assholes,
mircea_popescu: but i did say either get in the wot or get raped a while back. had kayne listened then he wouldn't have the problem today.
mircea_popescu: he instead chose to hire lawyers. well... gotta learn somehow who makes the rules and who one should obey.
ThickAsThieves: if he were in the wot, what would have happened instead?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the wrangle is over how likely people are to mistake the coin for his
ThickAsThieves: "Edit: So far most everyone is suggesting we just process returns in $US, which is fine, except that really proves that BTC is not a currency, but a payment method. "
mircea_popescu: if he were i nthe wot such mistake would have been impossible
mircea_popescu: buyt as he is not in the wot, the fact of the matter is that as far as bitcoin is concerned, his identity belongs more to the "seven dorks" than to him himself
ThickAsThieves: well even if they know it's not his, the makers are still benefiting form his name
mircea_popescu: and there's jack shit the powers he thought are powerful can do to help him
mircea_popescu: some muppets may think it is in fact mpcoin. what of it ?
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is forcing very deep resettlement of values, far reaching.
mircea_popescu: being in the wot'd have allowed him to bring meaningful proof.
mircea_popescu: being friends with lawyers does not do the same service.
ThickAsThieves: i dont think kanye needs wot to prove anything to anyone
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6592 @ 0.00091902 = 6.0582 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: this is what it is : no wot, you're the nigger. no matter how greatly accomplished you may think you are in your community,
mircea_popescu: im sure plenty of slaves were esteemed members of their community before being taken across the sea, too.
ozbot: [ANN][COYE] Coinye Coin - Launch: JANUARY 7, 2014. 7 PM PST
Duffer1: the bigger the fuss he chooses to create, the more valuable the coin will become
BingoBoingo: Maybe Kanye eventually starts doing thing the right way and outsources handling Bitcointalk to a Kardashian
Duffer1: if you don't find anything feel free to start some posts, brb downloading wallet
ThickAsThieves: it's in PC world, Washington Post, Wired, The Guardian, Geek.com, CNBC, Slashgear
ozbot: MTV Mobile Blog Rapfix: Kanye West Inspires 'CoinYe' Currency
mircea_popescu: m so happy the hot retardation core is moving away from bitcoin in this manner.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00299998 = 3 BTC [+]
Duffer1: ever since coingen it's been impossible to read the alt forum
topace: havelock api has /r/trades
nubbins`: honestly not sure about blacklilac's thread, tbh
nubbins`: if i was selling coins on the forum and some dude came in with scam accusations, i'd remove his posts too
jurov: why they thought it's good idea to have "and it's gone" 404 page
nubbins`: clever error pages are fucking brutal.
nubbins`: i guess because none of the default pages exist ;p
nubbins`: at an old job, i was tasked with cleaning up a website that was having problems with sql injection attacks. so i changed a query string variable, and -- no shit -- was brought to a page that said this:
nubbins`: "oh, look! you can manipulate the query string! good for you, how clever!"
nubbins`: i actually had to borrow a co-worker so i could triple facepalm
the20year: was that a result of the injection attack?
nubbins`: nope, that was the way the site was designed.
nubbins`: unprofessionalism aside, that's practically begging to be challenged
assbot: [HAVELOCK:HMF] 1D: 0.02400000 / 0.02460495 / 0.02480000 (312 shares, 7.67674477 BTC), 7D: 0.02000000 / 0.02376939 / 0.02539899 (1200 shares, 28.52327090 BTC), 30D: 0.01681006 / 0.02291871 / 0.02990000 (5734 shares, 131.41589732 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3000 @ 0.001 = 3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.00464675 = 0.1905 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 151 @ 0.00451593 = 0.6819 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 63 @ 0.00450152 = 0.2836 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.1008204 = 0.5041 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 218 @ 0.004494 = 0.9797 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00091782 = 1.6062 BTC [-]
Namworld: and it's gone... it's gone, it's all gone
ozbot: South Park vs. Cafe Del Mar - And It's Gone (Johannes Dahlberg Financial Crisis Mash) - YouTube
ozbot: The British Punk Band That Fooled Reagan, Thatcher And The CIA - The Daily Beast
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00091602 = 2.9771 BTC [-]
topace: every time i go to order from bitcoinstore.com the shipping price is tghrough the roof
topace: Shipping: International Economy 1.740 BTC [$1,508.76]
topace: so i email them and they fix it
topace: but then the price drops so i dont order
topace: then a few days later, their shipping module is fucked again
topace: its not bitcoin volatility im worried about here
topace: is the fact that their website wants to charge me $1500 for shipping a $2000 order
topace: mostly small shit, like harddrives, security cameras, etc
topace: [13:14:41] <topace> mostly small shit, like harddrives, security cameras, etc
the20year: alot of companies have terrible shipping connections
topace: yea well on bitcoinstore.com the only option that appears for me is fedex
topace: no, just regular economy
nubbins`: but i can't recall ever having paid less than like $80 to ship something with them
the20year: we priced out costs last night on mailing a new type of PC case for miners, and it came to $9.50
bounce: a designed by ikea case, so it fits in an envelope?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3111 @ 0.00091902 = 2.8591 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13648 @ 0.00091824 = 12.5321 BTC [-]
arij: the20year, a pc case for miners?
the20year: We'll post pictures when we're ready to sell
arij: how many can it hold?
arij: i am certainly interested
the20year: It's modular and stackable, so if you want 5 gpus per mobo, you can do it, or if you want 100 mobos with 200 psus and 500 GPUs , it'll do that too
arij: 5 per rig is what i have now
arij: i just bought some custom cases but i want to see what else is out there
the20year: These look like the others that are out there, but the actual function is different, and IMO better
the20year: Ben @ Buyahash has been looking for several cases to sell/distribute, and he's still talking to several major case companies, but in the mean time we decided we'd come up with our own design, and from what we made yesterday, we do believe it's superior in most ways to what's out there
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC [-]
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty at or above 2B before Feb 2014
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 270 @ 0.00047499 = 0.1282 BTC [+]
ozbot: U.S. Treasury cautions Bitcoin businesses on compliance duties, advocate cites ‘chilling effect’
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00091824 = 5.0044 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Business Insider is basically buzzfeed with different recycled listicle topics
ozbot: Kate Craig-Wood - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47 BTC [+]
ozbot: MPEx - serialized delusions
Apocalyptic: "By JuroV on Monday 13 January 2014, 14:17" damn it's the 13th already ?
pankkake: also in a weird order, 2 then 1
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 253 @ 0.00303178 = 0.767 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.003033 = 0.188 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5790 @ 0.00091853 = 5.3183 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13360 @ 0.00091919 = 12.2804 BTC [+]
jurov: so first 5 parts are done for now, gents. spread the word
jurov: options/bonds upcoming
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00091714 = 4.494 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.04999999 = 0.5 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30500 @ 0.00091535 = 27.9182 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00449899 = 0.135 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell mircea_popescu I appreciate the mention.
BingoBoingo: I don't much care that I lost money when Auburn lost, but I dislike that the chaos which could have been neer spread.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18818 @ 0.00091304 = 17.1816 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00090944 = 8.7306 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.46034333 = 2.7621 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7725 @ 0.00090949 = 7.0258 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1696 @ 0.00008517 = 0.1444 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.0009101 = 6.8713 BTC [+]