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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1001 @ 0.001 = 1.001 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02459999 = 0.2214 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1013.0, Best ask: 1019.717, Bid-ask spread: 6.71700, Last trade: 1019.75, 24 hour volume: 21249.82151275, 24 hour low: 911.58, 24 hour high: 1029.98765, 24 hour vwap: 973.26335
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00090209 = 8.3443 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.46 = 1.38 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1017 @ 0.00090385 = 0.9192 BTC [+]
hammurabi: es
truffles: escape
hammurabi: sorry, that was only noop message
deadweasel: i speak noop
hammurabi: 220 OK
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.00453 = 0.1223 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.48866554 = 1.466 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.489999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C275T] 600 @ 0.0051631 = 3.0979 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20603 @ 0.00090432 = 18.6317 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10597 @ 0.00090453 = 9.5853 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02449999 = 0.2205 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00090406 = 23.596 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20750 @ 0.00090124 = 18.7007 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 39 @ 0.00339907 = 0.1326 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5491 @ 0.00090346 = 4.9609 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 400 @ 0.001 = 0.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00089914 = 13.9367 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23076 @ 0.00090504 = 20.8847 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8924 @ 0.00090547 = 8.0804 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.00452256 = 0.1854 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.0045156 = 0.1264 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11783 @ 0.00089914 = 10.5946 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11217 @ 0.00089875 = 10.0813 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 164 @ 0.0045156 = 0.7406 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33550 @ 0.00090547 = 30.3785 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42800 @ 0.00090555 = 38.7575 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00432201 = 0.1297 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11795 @ 0.0009058 = 10.6839 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.46026199 = 0.9205 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3705 @ 0.00090593 = 3.3565 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00432101 = 0.1123 BTC [-]
KRS1: the best ones are right off the cat
KRS1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9xmiOxsTWg
ozbot: I Lick My Cat | My Strange Addiction - YouTube
Duffer1: ...
Duffer1: is that sfw?
KRS1: yes
Duffer1: ha ok
Duffer1: ohhh wtf
Duffer1: .bait
ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0bvv3dWja1qbzd9eo1_1280.jpg
Duffer1: .bait
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1nsvjj1ym1qk2vvro1_500.jpg
Duffer1: .eyebleach
ozbot: Usage: earn [hashrate_in_MH/s]
ozbot: -.-
ozbot: earn currently unavailable
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00452064 = 0.2034 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00453692 = 0.2495 BTC [+] {3}
KRS1: <3 bait
Duffer1: sometimes it's necessary :/
KRS1: you said it dude
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00090594 = 14.8574 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30626 @ 0.00090616 = 27.7521 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21653 @ 0.00090653 = 19.6291 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39597 @ 0.00090684 = 35.9081 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: "my raising opinion is the fact that"
mircea_popescu: internet people thinking, should be a website, like the people of walmart one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.000907 = 13.6957 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00090636 = 14.3205 BTC [-]
nanotube: ;;later tell benkay /viewgpg.php you can look up by keyid. you'll get a nice link if you ask gribble for 'gpg info somenickyouwant'. or if you want you can get the entire db.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
Duffer1: MP i believe the site you're looking for is 4chan
mircea_popescu: i always thought of that as more of a "free association" exercise.
mircea_popescu: sort of dada-resurected.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6159 @ 0.00090711 = 5.5869 BTC [+]
Duffer1: MP if you ever start to doubt that washington post article you linked yesterday there's always http://www.reddit.com/r/MURICA/
mircea_popescu: !t m ^oix
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / 265.25509326 / 265.25509326 (955 shares, 5.08 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
mircea_popescu: 2650 ? srsly ?!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00090711 = 11.7471 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.0009074 = 6.3064 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4642 @ 0.00090762 = 4.2132 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 21 @ 0.46150143 = 9.6915 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00453828 = 0.2315 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 37 @ 0.44486199 = 16.4599 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.0045383 = 0.1997 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32100 @ 0.00090636 = 29.0942 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.46198998 = 0.924 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.46000005 = 0.92 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.441002 = 2.205 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.44 = 2.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.44 = 1.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 253 @ 0.00424939 = 1.0751 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43333302 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00090762 = 2.8136 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00090762 = 21.2837 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00090873 = 9.996 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23081 @ 0.00090636 = 20.9197 BTC [-] {2}
Duffer1: MP thinking of ways to save the world or ways to shit on more mouthbreathers? :P
KRS1: eitherway he's doing the world a favor
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.00295 = 0.1062 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00090901 = 8.6356 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 357 @ 0.001 = 0.357 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60600 @ 0.00090942 = 55.1109 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: http://i.imgur.com/VIhkDAr.gif lmao bitcoinity supposedly shown this on $1000
Duffer1: they had several weird ones @ $100 intervals on the initial run up to 1200
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70868 @ 0.00090997 = 64.4878 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [+]
jurov: i know but this one really got me
KRS1: oh god...gay
Duffer1: hehe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4619 @ 0.00090636 = 4.1865 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25318 @ 0.00090481 = 22.908 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.435 = 0.87 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: omg.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00091008 = 11.1485 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 278906 | Current Difficulty: 1.4184813952626355E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 280223 | Next Difficulty In: 1317 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 2 hours, 51 minutes, and 14 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 660 @ 0.00288319 = 1.9029 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10130 @ 0.00090378 = 9.1553 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4670 @ 0.00090177 = 4.2113 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.46 = 4.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00090177 = 21.1916 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00090147 = 20.1028 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 400 @ 0.0006601 = 0.264 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13268 @ 0.0009013 = 11.9584 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4543 @ 0.00090107 = 4.0936 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38250 @ 0.00090057 = 34.4468 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34084 @ 0.00089956 = 30.6606 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.00288202 = 0.2219 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33116 @ 0.000898 = 29.7382 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20674 @ 0.00090158 = 18.6393 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00439759 = 0.1759 BTC [+]
Lunapuppy_: giggity alllllllriiiiight
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 40 @ 0.00324 = 0.1296 BTC [+] {2}
ArsKisS: bitcoin going up -> stocks going down
ArsKisS: i kinda see why, but it still makes me laugh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4435 @ 0.00090537 = 4.0153 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00090603 = 14.0435 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5405 @ 0.00090732 = 4.9041 BTC [+]
thestrin1puller: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1040.0, Best ask: 1047.0, Bid-ask spread: 7.00000, Last trade: 1040.0, 24 hour volume: 27591.01475313, 24 hour low: 928.75005, 24 hour high: 1093.68199, 24 hour vwap: 1013.68537
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12072 @ 0.00090602 = 10.9375 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00090602 = 7.6106 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 130 @ 0.001 = 0.13 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.45999884 = 0.92 BTC [-] {2}
Duffer1: http://pastebin.com/pro now with bitcoin payment option
ozbot: Pastebin.com - GO PRO
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.0252 = 0.1512 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.45999979 = 0.92 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00439999 = 0.1232 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.0252 = 0.1764 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00090602 = 6.4327 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.10100619 = 0.505 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 100 @ 0.02302769 = 2.3028 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.43502001 = 0.87 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1093 @ 0.001 = 1.093 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24995 @ 0.00090706 = 22.672 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: what happens when nobody uses zynga's bitcoin option?
ThickAsThieves: sell sell sell!
Duffer1: TaT why did you decide to put "Thieves" in your name?
ThickAsThieves: because i like the saying
asciilifeform: back to... valves! http://static.cray-cyber.org/Hardware/PaperMUNIAC.pdf
ThickAsThieves: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/thick+as+thieves
ozbot: thick as thieves - Idioms - by the Free Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
Duffer1: right but, you know the word "Thieves" is in your business name right?
Duffer1: your bitcoin business name
Duffer1: Thieves
ThickAsThieves: what do you suggest
Duffer1: that i should go get some sleep and stop trying to fuck with you
Duffer1: it's a good name
ThickAsThieves: lol
ThickAsThieves: it's just a name
Duffer1: but, imagine people's reactions if you ever did run with the money, everyone would be like.. "well shit"
ThickAsThieves: yes, it's not ideal for a trust-based biz
ThickAsThieves: if i was gonna run, it woulda happened long ago
Duffer1: oh i know man
ThickAsThieves: i'd prefer to have my identity out there if it were safe
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: but it's not ideal for more than one reason
Duffer1: i don't i'll ever see the day when i'd feel comfortable having my real name as a user nick
Duffer1: don't think*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8730 @ 0.0009061 = 7.9103 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23575 @ 0.00090614 = 21.3623 BTC [+] {2}
the20year: .r
ozbot: Gox | Buy: $983.01 Sell: $989.15 Last: $983.01 High: $1,093.68 Low: $965.00
ozbot: Bitstamp | Buy: $902.00
ozbot: Coinbase | Buy: $906.73
ozbot: Weex | API Error
ThickAsThieves: how long til someone makes blockchain-based DRM?
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: care to elaborate?
ThickAsThieves: well DRM seeks to identify an owner and allow it to access a property
ThickAsThieves: like mp3s
ThickAsThieves: i was half-joking half wondering honestly
ThickAsThieves: in the case of mp3s, like all drm
ThickAsThieves: it's obv a waste of time
ThickAsThieves: i havent put much thought into it otherwise
ThickAsThieves: i suppose people would just share their keys
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Well most DRM is pki based anyway. I don't see what adding a blockchain to it might do other than maybe allow rights transfers. I don't think many people interested in DRM though are people interested in making rights transfers easier though.
ThickAsThieves: it'd allow for a decentralized spotify?
ThickAsThieves: i dunno
ThickAsThieves: like i said, justthinking out loud
ThickAsThieves: just put all data in the blockchain
ThickAsThieves: move the internet to it
ThickAsThieves: well, the www i guess
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.43600026 = 0.872 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00420242 = 0.4202 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.0042 = 0.252 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21827 @ 0.0009088 = 19.8364 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Well, blockchains have limits on their usefulness. It works in Bitcoin because everyone values having a distributed consensus ledger and enough people have a vested interest to maintain this ledger. I dunno if anyone other than Spotify is particularly interested in spotifies ledger when they would rather store music than an account of the music everyone has.
KRS1: you can really send digital content via blockchain? crazy
BingoBoingo: KRS1: Well, namecoin. If it didn't suck so much and miners wrote transactions with lots of data to blocks...
ThickAsThieves: you could also do it with a superficial service
ThickAsThieves: using wallets as keys
ThickAsThieves: like a web browser that was keyed to you or such
KRS1: nmc prob has a future imo
KRS1: tight
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 166 @ 0.00410003 = 0.6806 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: The problem with blockchains for trivial uses is that block chains have a large cost in terms of storage required. Bitcoin's blockchain is small because the number of bitcoins transactions is small. A blockchain based however off of the iTunes catalog and all of the iTunes users however would not be small.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.00400185 = 0.3081 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 332 @ 0.001 = 0.332 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: but the cloud!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1753 @ 0.001 = 1.753 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0494 = 0.247 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 40 @ 0.00324 = 0.1296 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91250 @ 0.00091023 = 83.0585 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 194 @ 0.00288358 = 0.5594 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.0494 = 0.6916 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 506 @ 0.004 = 2.024 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 384 @ 0.001 = 0.384 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.004 = 0.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.004 = 0.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.001 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.004 = 0.112 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10300 @ 0.00009604 = 0.9892 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=MS another one
jurov: reseller of used electronics....
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56450 @ 0.00091008 = 51.374 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: scavenger of lost wallets...
pankkake: I'm not sure the fiat equivalent have enough volume, how is this one going to do?
benkay: well they're definitely going to acquire some bitcoins via IPO. who knows if it does what it says on the tin, even.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00090794 = 16.1159 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00090768 = 2.4961 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21425 @ 0.00090768 = 19.447 BTC [-]
benkay: is anyone using electrum or multibit?
KRS1: electrum seems awesome
pankkake: I am/was tempted to use Electrum, but it seems that Armory is fixing its slowness
KRS1: armory is better you think? havent tried it
pankkake: it seems to be the most featureful. requires the whole blockchain and now its own index though
dexX7: it's simple. want a lightweight client? electrum, otherwise i agree with armory
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00090605 = 12.5941 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00091127 = 16.175 BTC [+]
jurov: ;;seen topace
gribble: topace was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 4 hours, 11 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <topace> the passthru operators hold the direct shares
topace: im here :p
KRS1: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00090522 = 7.3323 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.45 = 0.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.00090522 = 14.7098 BTC [-]
mike_c: mintspare = insane.
mike_c: how could they possibly compete with the established players when they have to pay out at least 70% of their profits as dividends?
pankkake: lol they claim they give a fixed percent of profits?
mike_c: "Each MS unit is entitled to no less than 70% of profits in dividend payouts"
mike_c: heh. of course they reserve the right to change that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00090583 = 11.0511 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.46898774 = 1.407 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.04999998 = 0.8 BTC [+] {2}
Namworld: They only sell 20% of mintspare. Thus they can give at a minimum 70% of profits to holders and themselves, and keep up to 30% of profits for expension.
Namworld: They'd just need to be competitive from the start and not need to grow too much...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 396 @ 0.00288201 = 1.1413 BTC [-] {2}
Namworld: Havelock rejected Coinroll's IPO because the structure of the IPO (5% raising funds, 5% investors monetizing their investment) was too complicated and they didn't see how investors would benefit if their funds go to previous owners (nevermind that they they're buying out their shares and right to profits/the business)
Namworld: IPO to havelock = crowdfunding
Namworld: They don't grasp the actual meaning of the term IPO
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04999999 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16161 @ 0.00090712 = 14.66 BTC [+] {2}
mike_c: i don't see how they could be competitive from the start. they don't have any economies of scale. do they have some magic formula for cheap customer acquisition? i don't see it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00090521 = 4.5261 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5389 @ 0.00090484 = 4.8762 BTC [-]
mike_c: they are only serving US "to start". of course, they can't start until they finish their website. yet they are projecting 21 btc profit next month.
Namworld: They refused Coinroll's IPO because previous investors selling their shares and funds not going to develop a business is too complicated and doesn't offer anything to investors. Nevermind that Coinroll is already running and would be issuing bigger dividends than any other fund on Havelock right away.
Namworld: I think it says it all on Havelock.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00090965 = 20.831 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: mike_c mybe they will do business via PMs on otc/reddit/trolltalk
jurov: Namworld: yes, nice summary
ThickAsThieves: so IPO on CoinBr
mike_c: hey jurov, different topic: last month I unintentionally tested out what we were discussing. and you can not lose more on a sold put than your collateral.
jurov: ThickAsThieves: it doesn't depend fully on me
ThickAsThieves: but we all depend on you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02479959 = 0.248 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00090993 = 16.2877 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 467 @ 0.00433644 = 2.0251 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.04999999 = 0.3 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | None based on data since last change | 1744574150.51 based on data for last three days
BingoBoingo: benkay: Answered your comment
benkay: 'll see it in the rss then ;)
benkay: but ty for alert
BingoBoingo: benkay: Well, I dunno how much I trust RSS to propagate, or to have been read by anyone. Thank you for letting me know that I'm not the only person still using the stuff.
benkay: oh it propagates
ThickAsThieves: http://bitbet.us/bet/619/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-2b-before-feb/
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty at or above 2B before Feb 2014
ThickAsThieves: yobtc on No
ThickAsThieves: 70*
ThickAsThieves: dont they learn
ThickAsThieves: ?
ThickAsThieves: (from my mistakes)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35244 @ 0.00090469 = 31.8849 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11656 @ 0.00090337 = 10.5297 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: benkay: You know you can link you plog when you post the comments
pankkake: this. is. beautiful: "So we view this as not just an idea, we are not just a company taking an existing idea and putting it into the Bitcoin space. We are a company that is revamping the idea into a successful business through design, culture, process, technology, customer support, innovation, growth and proper staffing within the Bitcoin world."
benkay: BingoBoingo: I do. Someday I may.
benkay: pankkake: link or stop being a cocktease
pankkake: in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=401481.0
pankkake: do anchors fail on bitcointalk for anyone else?
ThickAsThieves: that link has no anchor
BingoBoingo: benkay: You might as well. Blogging is like Brussels sprouts. No matter what you expections are something about the venutre is going to taste kind of bitter until the frost sets.
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=401481.msg4350881#msg4350881 for example, it gets me to the top of the page anyway
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ll_: works here
benkay: http://coinelius.com - nigga can't even spell cryptotrading
benkay: links to 'cryptotocks'
ThickAsThieves: that anchor works for me
benkay: spelling errors man. how do even english.
ThickAsThieves: albeit when it's close to the bottom it is somewhat ineffective
jurov: topace you around?
pankkake: lol coinelius/twentyseventy. just do the inverse of what he does and you'll be fine
benkay: i was reading some other derpage from him recently as well.
benkay: didn't even bother to file it.
benkay: BingoBoingo: you made me log in to wordpress. and fuck with their horrible gravatar situation. timescammer!
BingoBoingo: benkay: You shouldn't have to.
benkay: I know.
benkay: Your defaults are showing.
pankkake: wordpress.com blogs force you to log on if you have a wordpress.com account with that email
benkay: this whole "federate identity across all platforms" routine is a little tired at this point.
mike_c: yeah, but so is having 500 different sets of credentials
benkay: yeah, and if you've ever had contact with their systems they'll snarf your email out of the comment field and blapp your identity link into poor BingoBoingo's blog.
mike_c: openid for the win?
benkay: cardano for the win
benkay: all comments must be gpg signed
mike_c: until your dog hits the kill switch
benkay: well you have two, right?
jurov: what?
mike_c: yeah, with a master signing key you keep in the garden it would work
benkay: one to sign the public key of the one you carry around.
BingoBoingo: I'm pretty sure just entering nym, any email, and comment should be sufficient. I'll investigate whether or not I need to burn a bunch of PHP when I'm not so drunk.
jurov: they will be quantum entagled?
pankkake: I liked openid, but it is effectively dead
mike_c: stackoverflow tried to use it. i was surprised that didn't work.
benkay: log in with cryptotoken. it's the only way.
pankkake: at least I could self-host it… now a lot of websites throw you facebook in the face
pankkake: because, and that is truly a problem, people are too lazy to create a new account, and manage passwords
benkay: time heals all this idiocy. red queen patterns etc.
pankkake: the only thing I dislike with static blogs is the comment handling. usually, it's… disqus
pankkake: but I've seen implementations of one of my dreams: a comment-by-email
benkay: yeah. i'm thinking about how to do comments.
pankkake: plus, email already has antispams. why reinvent the wheel
mike_c: that is a good idea. identity friendly, if not user friendly.
benkay: not buying into one of these federated identity services - that'd run counter to the whole point.
benkay: sheeeit, mike_c, if someone can't handle comments by email i don't want 'em commenting.
mike_c: it's not that they can't handle, just raises the bar for doing so. you'll get fewer comments.
pankkake: that was my main reason for chosing wordpress; so many plugins, comments with working antispam
mike_c: not sure how trilema's works, but it seems a reasonable compromise.
pankkake: well some clients/webmails don't provide a good way to have multiple identities
benkay: ;;google trilema spam
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pankkake: perhaps add a special tag on top of the mail to change it; and also provide a URL
pankkake: lol zerohedge
mike_c: http://trilema.com/2013/effectual-spam-filtering-for-wordpress/
ozbot: Effectual spam filtering for WordPress pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.001 = 2 BTC [+]
benkay: that's the one, mike_c.
benkay: having written on everything from friendster to livejournal to the well, blogger and yes even wordpress before attempting to roll my own this time through i decided to keep all of my data local and generate blog files from my blog.org file
pankkake: https://wordpress.org/plugins/anti-spam/ catches most of my spam but it might also prevent lynx users from commenting :(
ozbot: WordPress › Anti-spam « WordPress Plugins
benkay: which thanks to the insane amounts of time that's been put into org-mode and emacs in general is a pretty robust project
benkay: http://renard.github.io/o-blog/index.html
ozbot: Quick start Guide
benkay: you'll see i have some styling to do. i hate styling.
mike_c: i'm more interested in the identity side though. what's the right compromise for allowing attribution to commenters without making them create an account?
benkay: pgp signed comments.
mike_c: heh
mike_c: hardly a compromise
benkay: no way man
pankkake: use bootstrap
benkay: errybody's going to have to get at least conversant with privacy tools.
mike_c: yes, and highcharts. obviously.
pankkake: I used to dislike bootstrap because so many websites use it. but so what? interfaces are meant to be standardized
benkay: i don't want to 'use' anything - i want to deploy some capital and have some less generated by a human for me.
pankkake: and if you hate css, it's perfect
mike_c: pankkake: agreed. not hard to tweak anyway.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17010 @ 0.00091136 = 15.5022 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17050 @ 0.00091142 = 15.5397 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02479959 = 0.124 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02479959 = 0.248 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21610 @ 0.00090971 = 19.6588 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13040 @ 0.00091052 = 11.8732 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6160 @ 0.00090595 = 5.5807 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 145 @ 0.00439512 = 0.6373 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00439709 = 0.1891 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21890 @ 0.00091188 = 19.9611 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 317 @ 0.00439995 = 1.3948 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13860 @ 0.00091241 = 12.646 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 159 @ 0.00439998 = 0.6996 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 74 @ 0.00288201 = 0.2133 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.467999 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15040 @ 0.00091241 = 13.7226 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.4680909 = 5.149 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.46899999 = 2.814 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c nice catch on the bitbet statement there.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 11914 @ 0.00009601 = 1.1439 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: you are late log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-01-2014#436766
kakobrekla: hrm, again without the http://, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-01-2014#436766 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: what mess, it's like 70 cents.
mircea_popescu: big whoop
kakobrekla: and the one from last year
kakobrekla: and generally, its a mess.
kakobrekla: we fucked up too many times :p
mircea_popescu: gracious donations to shareholders : 0.061 BTC ?
kakobrekla: imma gonna make it esier
mircea_popescu: obv shareholders didn't give a shit about the 6 bitcents, or else they'd have said something.
mircea_popescu: people gotta get used to reading reports, calculator in hand
mircea_popescu: this isn't lazyland, this is bitcoin, a republic.
kakobrekla: well obv is all my fault cause i sign the thing on the end
kakobrekla: it looks bad
kakobrekla: kako cant do maffs
mircea_popescu: it's partly your fault, and partly my fault, and partly the fault of everyone who may wish to bitch about it
mircea_popescu: we're all in this together.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.001 = 0.25 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: with any luck at all, i'll forget to roll the .7 bitcents into next month's report and then it'll look really bad lol
pankkake: what are you using for accounting? text files?
kakobrekla: actually its not so much your fault cause you dont sign it, which makes me think you should be doing that from now on :D
kakobrekla: eyeballing apparently
mircea_popescu: pankkake nubian slaves.
pankkake: I need slaves to sort my files
pankkake: and my porn
kakobrekla: nsa does that
mircea_popescu: so you need nubian and pubian slaves.
pankkake: though I shouldn't need porn if I have slaves. hmm
mircea_popescu: "Slavery in Sudan began in ancient times, and has continued to the present day." sez wikipedia
pankkake: my love for metadata is probably more insane than anyone in the nsa