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jurov: there's a mess with these 3 calls somehow
jurov: 3x O.USD.C065T were bought at .02177107 , they will break even at 830.89
jurov: not at 664.46
jurov: or did i forgot something about oix?
asciilifeform: benkay: if you're still there - care to say more?
jurov: kakobrekla: and it seems assbot doesn't show puts data
jurov: mpex says OIX for puts is 0.07 (100.0 / 0.0)
benkay: asciilifeform: encrypt shell script that when sourced sets environment variables with cardano key
asciilifeform: benkay: i think i'm missing something here
asciilifeform: cardano key?
benkay: plug cardano into server, decrypt shell script, run and set environment variables for application.
benkay: well, public key corresponding to private key on cardano.
benkay: encrypt *to*
benkay: do forgive my imprecision.
asciilifeform: say enemy has control of server.
asciilifeform: he lifts the payload (script) out, does what he likes
benkay: if enemy has control of server they can lift environment variables right out
benkay: this is for managing deploy variables in such a way that repo can get compromised
asciilifeform: likewise, if cardano is left unattended in a cage, enemy can walk off with it.
mod6: well this page: http://trilema.com/2013/introducing-the-oix/ says that it should be: 650/(1-.02177107) * Trade Vol / Total Vol | in this case = 83.08946575 ~ $830.8946575
mod6: so yeah, not sure...
benkay: yes, of course. this is why you pull C out of a safe when booting new application instance.
benkay: and put it back in the safe after application has been booted.
asciilifeform: what i'm unclear on is: what is being protected?
mod6: bah, my bad: 650/(1-.02177107) = 830.89465751
benkay: secrets in the repository.
mod6: i did `65' the first time.
mod6: hmmmm
asciilifeform: my understanding is that: in this case you would be using cardano merely as a disk?
asciilifeform: i'm still not sure how it adds anything here
asciilifeform: the reason i'm piping up, is that i don't want any misconceptions floating about regarding what C is for.
asciilifeform: most importantly, it is not designed to resist physical dissection.
jurov: asciilifeform: it will be used to sign resulting binary or tarball?
asciilifeform: because 1) it is cost-prohibitive, and more importatly, 2) flies in the face of auditability
asciilifeform: sure, you can sign a tarball
asciilifeform: but it is unwise to keep cardano in an unmanned facility.
benkay: not as a disk no, but to decrypt a file of environmental variables describing cluster provisioning.
asciilifeform: then enemy will read the machine's memory and walk off with secret.
asciilifeform: this is usually trivial.
benkay: sure.
benkay: once cluster is compromised, cluster is compromised.
asciilifeform: likewise, enemy will use the unattended cardano to sign the diddled tars.
jurov: iirc there will be serial number of files encrypted/signed?
jurov: maybe you can put the serial right inside signature's date field.. so that it can be checked
jurov: and hell raised if the value is not expected
asciilifeform: it is important to understand that once an enemy captures a cardano and lifts the private key, he can sign whatever he pleases.
jurov: yes, we're talking about connecting cardano to (remotely) pwned server
jurov: checking this serial won't help with diddling, but allows the attacker only one try
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00085323 = 8.3617 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2013/the-typologies-of-homosexuality-reprint/
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Much more polished than my attempt.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25778 @ 0.00085159 = 21.9523 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: it actually took a fluent romanian speaker / native english to make the first draft and half hour of my time to correct it
mircea_popescu: translation is about 5x as difficult as writing, who knew.
nubbins`: "the courage to ignore orthodoxy in favor of truth"
nubbins`: few people make this identification
nubbins`: admittedly only skimmed the rest of the article beyond part 1
mircea_popescu: :p
mircea_popescu: so i left my erlenmeyer tuica glass with a little on the bottom and went to bed
mircea_popescu: now i have fifty hundred drunk gnats all over
mircea_popescu: why ;/
nubbins`: noooo
nubbins`: time to create a gnat trap
mircea_popescu: brb buying sparrows
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: nah, too complicated
nubbins`: http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll45/huntleygang/idearoom/fruitfly2-1.jpg
mircea_popescu: o wow srsly ?
nubbins`: ^ you can also cut a plastic beverage bottle in half to construct much the same thing
mircea_popescu: they don't find the hole ?
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: they're idiots
mircea_popescu: hahaha poor things
nubbins`: this is how lobsters are caught too, incidentally
mircea_popescu: no, see, it's just they have very specialised sensing apparata
mircea_popescu: and can't dose "fresh air"
mircea_popescu: can dose alcohol very well!
nubbins`: nod
nubbins`: red wine is the classic bait, but it's a bit of a waste of wine
mircea_popescu: then again... why'd they want to get out.
nubbins`: judging by the picture, rotting fruit works too
nubbins`: ah, here we go, a bit more classic: http://www.bottlebiology.org/graphics/flytrap/build3.gif
btclovernick: what is mpex
nubbins`: an exchange
btclovernick: ok
btclovernick: what can i buy and sell
btclovernick: what is s.mpoe
btclovernick: s.bbet
btclovernick: what is s.mg
btclovernick: what is s.nsa
nubbins`: i invite you to read the respective IPOs, but they're all funds for various business-y things
btclovernick: ok
btclovernick: where is the ipo
nubbins`: just click the link and read :D
nubbins`: very difficult to get lost on that website, it's pretty straight forward
nubbins`: granted, the reading is a bit dry, but that's just because they haven't commissioned any of these documents to be remade in graphic novel format
btclovernick: ok
btclovernick: http://bitbet.us/
btclovernick: what is this
btclovernick: why is this listed
nubbins`: looks like a betting website
nubbins`: and it's listed because they own it
nubbins`: or at least a portion of it
btclovernick: ok
ArsKisS: wutwut, sbfs rising again
btclovernick: how do u list another bitcoin site
btclovernick: what do u think of coinsetter
btclovernick: they just raised 1.5mn $ today in nyc
nubbins`: not knowing anything about it, i don't think much of it
nubbins`: i'm sure it's lovely tho :D
mircea_popescu: nubbins` well i made one out of foil and double tape, lessee
btclovernick: ru make of mpex
nubbins`: i think generally the listing requirements for mpex are a bit more stringent than other places
mircea_popescu: btclovernick did you read the contracts ?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i wonder will the foil confuse them
mircea_popescu: heh they're on it.
nubbins`: if it's not full of corpses tomorrow, consider paper
nubbins`: ah great!
mircea_popescu: why;d it confuse them ?
mircea_popescu: they're half blind
nubbins`: no idea, just guessing
mircea_popescu: i like foil cause it makes their efforts audible.
nubbins`: ah, the thrill of the hunt!
nubbins`: stick a contact mic on the bottle and record their death screams
mircea_popescu: double tape is also made for this application
mircea_popescu: i bought a roll years ago moving in here, cause i was buying shit
mircea_popescu: never had occasion to use except to fix girl's improbable cleavage clings and now to catc hgnats.
nubbins`: so i made some moose sausage today: http://imgur.com/W646MP2
mircea_popescu: ArsKisS the who ?
nubbins`: slowly getting better at it.
mircea_popescu: looks noobish :D
ArsKisS: mircea_popescu, nobody
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: funny, that ;)
nubbins`: slowly learning to plump up loose fills by adding links of appropriate length
nubbins`: http://imgur.com/lzDd9Zw
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: what do you use for membrane ?
nubbins`: collagen casings
nubbins`: made from beef hide or something
nubbins`: guts are actually hard to find
mircea_popescu: it shows.
mircea_popescu: actual guts actually help you a lot with shaping the sausage
nubbins`: yeah, real guts are much more flexible too
nubbins`: i've popped a few links because of the collagen's lack of give
nubbins`: you also don't get that nice "snap" when you bite down into collagen
mircea_popescu: the solution obv is to hunt your own meece.
mircea_popescu: they always come with enough guts to make sausage.
nubbins`: nod, the ultimate convenience food
nubbins`: it's like if pizzas were born with boxes inside them.
mircea_popescu: this is how people ended up religious in the first place
nubbins`: haha
mircea_popescu: "how come an animal has just enough guts in it to make sausage ?"
nubbins`: "he came with just enough blood to make a sacrifice"
mircea_popescu: yup
Duffer1: lol
mircea_popescu: i kid you not.
nubbins`: i imagine moose have HUGE poop chutes
mircea_popescu: nubbins` not really much bigger than what you're used to
mircea_popescu: if you watch a lot of porn
nubbins`: ah, hm
nubbins`: anyway, the collagen will do for now until i find a source
nubbins`: still a few butchers i haven't called
mircea_popescu: call all the bitches!
mircea_popescu: s/bitches/butchers
nubbins`: oh, i will
nubbins`: when i try something new, i go full throttle
nubbins`: honestly this all came about because i was eating some nice pepperoni in here when you mentioned something about dried salami a few weeks ago
nubbins`: and then the next day, i was given a few pounds of moose sausage
nubbins`: it flipped a switch
mircea_popescu: ha
nubbins`: anyway! guests are here, peace
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.00290838 = 0.192 BTC [-]
the20year2: you using moose intestines for sausage?
the20year2: Well, sausage casings
mircea_popescu: .d
ozbot: 1180923195.25803 | Next Diff in 871 blocks | Estimated Change: 17.8101% in 4d 22h 56m 33s
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-december-2013-statement/
ozbot: MPOE, December 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
the20year2: so are you paying a dividend?
mircea_popescu: yea.
the20year2: k, was trying to find that part
toffoo: what happened with the mpex options market?
mircea_popescu: toffoo what are you asking ?
toffoo: I haven't seen many of those options trades that used to print in this channel. has volume dropped a lot?
mircea_popescu: ~1.1k btc nominal traded last month
mircea_popescu: they tend to move in large chunks, when they do.
toffoo: is that a lot less than what it used to be?
mircea_popescu: if i recall correctly the record is ~500k notional.
toffoo: I'm somewhat surprised that during the last huge price spike/crash that your options market wasn't more active
mircea_popescu: me too.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, people tend to buy more options when the market is flat than when it moves.
mircea_popescu: i suspect the human brain can't quite cope with btc volatility so then they seem "expensive"
Duffer1: your options participants are speculators above all else, it seems natural for them to consider the fiat value of btc
Duffer1: "cheap" or "expensive"
mircea_popescu: i meant something more along these lines : if you go to a fellow and say "pay me a dime and you can get two dollars if the price of grain dubles in a month" he will consider this cheap.
mircea_popescu: if however you say "give me half a bitcoin and you can have two if bitcoin doubles in a month" he will consider this expensive
Duffer1: i see
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding that btc prices have doubled five of the past twenty months, and grain prices have not doubled any one of the past 1500 months
toffoo: I'm also somewhat surprised that whoever is running the bot's vol book hasn't blown up yet
mircea_popescu: you don't really know how that works do you ?
toffoo: probably not
mircea_popescu: may i direct you to the age old http://trilema.com/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/
mircea_popescu: it's all explained in there.
toffoo: no hablo romanian
mircea_popescu: there's an english version
toffoo: oh right, it's the bond holders who own the bot's vol risk? is that how it works?
mircea_popescu: yeah
mircea_popescu: there's been some synthetics published too,
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-bonds-historical-data-dec-2012-nov-2013/
ozbot: MPOE bonds historical data, Dec 2012 - Nov 2013 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: link within for the previous 16 months or w/e
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22070 @ 0.00085162 = 18.7953 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38248 @ 0.00085359 = 32.6481 BTC [+] {2}
Duffer1: vexual around?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.286 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.0315001 = 0.126 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.0008506 = 11.6107 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00084935 = 12.8252 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.29 = 0.87 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.00282439 = 0.2062 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29520 @ 0.00085279 = 25.1744 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 53 @ 0.02350011 = 1.2455 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00282439 = 0.1695 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46600 @ 0.00085367 = 39.781 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 242 @ 0.00282439 = 0.6835 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.0650001 = 0.325 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8397 @ 0.00085388 = 7.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30450 @ 0.0008546 = 26.0226 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00286 = 0.143 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00085491 = 23.339 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.00286 = 0.1058 BTC [+]
Duffer1: https://hashfast.com/hashfast-customer-update/
Duffer1: Hashfast set to start shipping Batch 1 by Dec 31. Batch one is roughly 225Th
Duffer1: That's on the low end since that 225 figure is calculated @ 400gh per babyjet. More recent numbers show 500gh min
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.05800121 = 0.174 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00085391 = 4.91 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00085391 = 11.6986 BTC [-]
Gotyawallet: Bitcoin is racist, see. http://i.imgur.com/IWenXrp.jpg
Gotyawallet: Oh thats cool mpex and coinbr mentioned in cnn (finance) (fortune) on Dec. 5. Missed that one.
Gotyawallet: "Midday Wednesday, MPEx appeared to shut down, and the prices of the contracts disappeared."
Gotyawallet: That must have been that hack or failure incident a while back didnt follow too closely.
BingoBoingo: Gotyawallet: It was bitcoincharts failing to feed the bot data
BingoBoingo: When the datastream disappears the bot stops quoting and cancels its orders
BingoBoingo: MPEx was indeed up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29950 @ 0.00085271 = 25.5387 BTC [-] {3}
Gotyawallet: ah ok
Gotyawallet: thought it was cool the exchanges were mentioned in cnn/fortune
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.05800121 = 0.348 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42742 @ 0.00085198 = 36.4153 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.29 = 1.74 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27307 @ 0.00085411 = 23.3232 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6666 @ 0.00085483 = 5.6983 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.293 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.29459997 = 2.946 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.29499997 = 2.95 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5134 @ 0.00085198 = 4.3741 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1350 @ 0.00011 = 0.1485 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4313 @ 0.00085198 = 3.6746 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 102 @ 0.00281499 = 0.2871 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35655 @ 0.00084989 = 30.3028 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00084822 = 20.5269 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2037 @ 0.00085155 = 1.7346 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38100 @ 0.00085178 = 32.4528 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00085254 = 14.0669 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18081 @ 0.00085108 = 15.3884 BTC [-] {2}
bittalk: Anyone that wants to buy a 2th/s miner with us ? we're 2 guys looking to invest in it :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 4.26418300 BTC to 86`900 shares, 4907 satoshi per share
dexX7: which one?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04699989 = 0.188 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 170 @ 0.0010777 = 0.1832 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00084795 = 10.2178 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.295 = 0.885 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.30278763 = 5.1474 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19022 @ 0.0008481 = 16.1326 BTC [+]
mod6: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 277424 | Current Difficulty: 1.1809231952580261E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 278207 | Next Difficulty In: 783 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 20 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1384992701.55 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.28051
mod6: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 32 minutes and 36 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6297 @ 0.0008481 = 5.3405 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17766 @ 0.00085031 = 15.1066 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21750 @ 0.00085031 = 18.4942 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00084739 = 32.5398 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02440001 = 0.2928 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25004 @ 0.00085031 = 21.2612 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02399999 = 0.168 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 120 @ 0.001 = 0.12 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29000012 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 103 @ 0.00280378 = 0.2888 BTC [-] {3}
kakobrekla: your best new blockchain reader http://blockr.io/home
mod6: cool
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1200 @ 0.00010999 = 0.132 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00085011 = 3.4855 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00085011 = 16.1521 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00279914 = 1.3996 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1166 @ 0.00281891 = 3.2868 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00285 = 0.7125 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00084863 = 16.3786 BTC [-]
benkay: mpbor up to 14.5 percent
benkay: goodness
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11263 @ 0.00084863 = 9.5581 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29000021 = 0.58 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: for electronics junkies - chronicle of the motor controller affair: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1401
mike_c: wow, impressive resurrection
mike_c: i'm surprised the pcb wasn't damaged. i guess those things are pretty resilient.
asciilifeform: mike_c: it was scorched a bit in the fireball, but the traces remained.
asciilifeform: the most surprising find was that the chip maker clearly specified heat sinking, and there was none.
kakobrekla: found the same on my new gpu
kakobrekla: nothing blown yet though
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you buy gpus w/o heat sinks ? is it 1992 yet ?!
asciilifeform: still '92 around here, i buy fanless cards only.
asciilifeform: fat hedgehogs on them, though
mircea_popescu: my gpu looks more like a failed suv
mircea_popescu: all this retarded plastic shit
asciilifeform: my fave gpu story: in '02, living in a uni dorm, ruptured coolant hose, ended with gpu that gives 'snow' in the picture, a la CGA card
asciilifeform: at night, we removed one fellow's expensive 'radeon' and slid that one in.
mircea_popescu: wow
mircea_popescu: the snow actually happensd on modern cards ?!
asciilifeform: water damage can do very interesting things to electronics, not necessarily total death
kakobrekla: o yeah, gpu and water stories. got plenty of those.
mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Arachne_CGA_stretched.png
asciilifeform: good old arachne.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 17 @ 0.0231606 = 0.3937 BTC [-] {7}
asciilifeform: had a built-in ppp dialer, too.
mircea_popescu: that half worked
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 185 @ 0.00266618 = 0.4932 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00084839 = 22.3127 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: "On September 3rd, my dad died due to a very agressive and rare cancer of the kidney called collecting-duct carcinoma just six weeks after first experiencing symptoms. This was nine months to the day after my mom died from metastasized breast cancer two years after her initial diagnosis.
mircea_popescu: I've learned a lot from witnessing their deaths."
mircea_popescu: somehow he has failed to learn that it's fucking insane to have both parents die to a RARE DISEASE
mircea_popescu: for instance, i have three cousins which are all 19 and all married last summer, living in the same small town.
mircea_popescu: 20k people. a total of FIVE died of cancer the year these three girls got married.
kakobrekla: yeah so he found a block on cpu
mircea_popescu: with both cpus.
mircea_popescu: and those are the only two he gets.
kakobrekla: stranger things have happend
mircea_popescu: this strange thing happens all the time to these people. something's gotta give, nobody's this lucky.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21670 @ 0.00084713 = 18.3573 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: "these people"?
kakobrekla: who are these
mircea_popescu: well it seems to be mostly a us thing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00084684 = 8.4684 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: stop slandering the american dream
mircea_popescu: pls insert plastic didlo in available collecting ducts
kakobrekla: btw where did wences go?
mircea_popescu: argentina ?
Gotyawallet: plastic dildos will not be found in #bitcoin-anal
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1100 @ 0.00011 = 0.121 BTC [+]
Duffer1: so.. paul krugman wrote another 'i don't understand therefore you're stupid' article regarding bitcoin
Duffer1: how did that guy win a nobel price?
twizt: he proved that you earn interest
twizt: faster
twizt: orbiting the earth
mircea_popescu: because they're recognigtion prizes not accomplishment prizes.
twizt: than you do on the ground
Duffer1: lol
twizt: so if you had a bank account orbiting around space
twizt: in theory you're earning interest faster
twizt: and cuz he proved that, he got a noble
mircea_popescu: haha no, not really.
mircea_popescu: he did some useful work re trade geography
mircea_popescu: the problem is, with the suyper-specialised way we got things going, anyone can do useful work and still be a retard.
twizt: http://www.princeton.edu/~pkrugman/interstellar.pdf
mircea_popescu: kinda why accomplishment prizes are an impossibility, nobody's actually accomplishing anything anymore,
Duffer1: ya i figured twizt wasn't being literal :P
mircea_popescu: they just push the levers
twizt: no i was being literal
Duffer1: ah interstellar trade theory
Duffer1: sounds useful
pankkake: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-27/how-ultra-rich-chinese-men-find-their-wives
ozbot: How Ultra-Rich Chinese Men Find Their Wives | Zero Hedge
mircea_popescu: pankkake do tell ?
mircea_popescu: hahaha ridoinculous
mircea_popescu: no, that's not how ultra rich people, chinese, russian or otherwise, find wives.
mircea_popescu: that's how otherwise unemployable jewish old women tell impressionable young women and especially their mothers that ultra rich people find wives, for very transparent reasons.
pankkake: wives find them?
mircea_popescu: if the rich didn't inherit but made their wealth, they made it atop of a far reaching network of collaborators and informats.
mircea_popescu: those are just as able to fineagle a great woman as they are to find you a great deal.
mircea_popescu: after all, business has to be found, too, and wants to be found by the right guy just as much as women do.
mircea_popescu: course random retard writing for random weblog doth not know this, and couldn't, seeing how he's neither rich
mircea_popescu: nor ever will be.
asciilifeform: well, in prc they have the 3rd kind of rich: not inherited, but not really built with his own hands
asciilifeform: 'crown privilege'
mircea_popescu: this may be true
mircea_popescu: and it's exactly what the guy making the parties is trying to achieve.
asciilifeform: 'mr. hui is hereby granted the crown concession of fleecing american pigs.'
mircea_popescu: course it's not particularly a bad model he's got. if you spend ten years placing hot chicks in the marital beds of crown princes,
mircea_popescu: you can be the new president of that place, just asking a few favours in.
mircea_popescu: doubt he has the brains to run this properly, but anyway.
Gotyawallet: a btc fantasy football site would do well if there was one
mircea_popescu: go for it.
Gotyawallet: i cant stand ff
pankkake: as long as you understand it (I don't), why not?
mircea_popescu: lol well, maybe someone reading then
mike_c: it's complicated. not cheap to get the statistics, and the algorithms to price players isn't easy.
mircea_popescu: so anyway, i love zacusca, which is this eeuropean veggie preserve. it's a hassle to make tho, so after going to Cheng Yongsheng parties for zacusca makers looking for very rich patrons,
mircea_popescu: i found this brand which absolutely adds no chemicals to the brew whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: the net result ? i open a can, i eat as much as i can, i put it in the fridge.
mircea_popescu: then a day or two later i throw it out, and open a new one. because fuck me it molds in a day this thing
mircea_popescu: mike_c spoken like one who's tried this ?
mike_c: one who has done a decent amount of due diligence
mircea_popescu: wise man.
kakobrekla: ah this is like ajvar
kakobrekla: kako approves
mircea_popescu: >D
mircea_popescu: cooking it is a sight, too. it takes three girls about a day, and because of all the going pots it's pretty much easier to do it in the nude
mircea_popescu: well, with an apron.
mircea_popescu: "Volunteers come from all walks of life, which for some is a demonstration of China’s movement in the direction of social equality." <<< ahahaha this kicks ass.
mircea_popescu: chinese rich men are open to fucking everything, from goats to your wife. all hail equality.
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mircea_popescu: Gotyawallet : i got one for ya : #bitcoin-kevetch
pankkake: kvetch?
mircea_popescu: yeah.
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pankkake: I got a donation today. turns out asking for donations in READMEs can work!
kakobrekla: you merrican or what
kakobrekla: way too much luck
mod6: haha
mircea_popescu: lol
pankkake: it wasn't random though, it was for fixing the stuff
pankkake: but now I'm thinking I should list an address on my other software
mircea_popescu: definitely.
kakobrekla: dont bother
kakobrekla: its never gonna happen again
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Gotyawallet: Hmmm
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Gotyawallet: Pay .02 to have voice for your kevetch. Not to be confused with Mitzvah
benkay: ;;ud kevetch
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kvetch | Piss and moan; whine; from the Yiddish; a person who habitually kvetches ( usually used for females)
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: kvetch
mircea_popescu: .L.
mircea_popescu: *lol
KRS|Gotyawallet: i had a girlfriend like that once
KRS|Gotyawallet: *everything* bothered her..the only time she was really quiet is when she was sucking.
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mircea_popescu: at least she sucked.
mircea_popescu: the always bothered type usually is always bothered for lack of such.
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KRS|Gotyawallet: my g/f before that never did and that was worse..i'd rather hear a girl go on and on all day and know whats up than a bitch who is too good to give up some head.
KRS|Gotyawallet: i thinks its my most fav thing in the world really.
KRS|Gotyawallet: Ever see Eddie Murphy in "Coming to America" where the woman in the hot tub says "The royal penis is clean your highness"..I think if I could start every day like that, I would be a much better man..maybe a massage and a good breakfast too.
KRS|Gotyawallet: Then I would be able to start my day.
lucid_: lmao, I've had my girl recite that after sucking and swallowing
lucid_: king shit
KRS|Gotyawallet: THAT is awesome
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kakobrekla: apparently a day of awesome costs less than a bitcoins or something
kakobrekla: -s
Diablo-D3: [06:36:44] <KRS|Gotyawallet> Ever see Eddie Murphy in "Coming to America" where the woman in the hot tub says "The royal penis is clean your highness"..I think if I could start every day like that, I would be a much better man..maybe a massage and a good breakfast too.
Diablo-D3: it works.
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