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nubbins`: hah
pankkake: truffles: that was the most confusing to me
nubbins`: i have two roommates and a wife
mircea_popescu: pankkake if you did it was stolen. it's this guy's.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` guess what ? so do i! the wife changes among the three periodically.
truffles: i thought i was the only one clueless
nubbins`: oh cool!
nubbins`: truffles, you are D;
truffles: i know, thats y i ask questions
nubbins`: no better way to learn, keep it up
truffles: i will thanks
truffles: gotta make my brain useful u know
nubbins`: anyway, i like people and i like having my mortgage mostly paid for by others
nubbins`: pretty much win-win for me
truffles: so u arent mircea_popescu's roommate?
nubbins`: not afaik
nubbins`: altho those guys living with the dread pirate roberts didn't know until after the fact
truffles: 1 woman 3 husbands kinda thing ?
nubbins`: not sure exactly his arrangement, you'd have to ask him
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2378 @ 0.00083546 = 1.9867 BTC [-]
dub: 'yes officer I knew my all along about his illegal internet drug empire'
mircea_popescu: "we even smoked stuff he brought home"
dub: I hid a kilo of his coke in my ass
mircea_popescu: "i kept some. it;s hidden. would you like to look for it up my rectum ?"
mircea_popescu: exactly.
dub: story checks out
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 637.99998, Best ask: 642.8981, Bid-ask spread: 4.89812, Last trade: 642.8981, 24 hour volume: 86931.12318318, 24 hour low: 453.29, 24 hour high: 650.0, 24 hour vwap: 551.11511
thestringpuller: is anyone else experience extreme lag with bitcoinity?
dub: no
thestringpuller: the shit doesn't auto refresh for me
dub: seems to match whats on the sockets
thestringpuller: trades used to come in "real time"
pascal257: [WTS] 3537 ADDICTION direct shares - Message me with your offer
thestringpuller: but now I have to refresh the page to get them to show up
thestringpuller: so I dunno wtf is up
dub: have you tried turning it off and back on again?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 79 @ 0.00338505 = 0.2674 BTC [-] {3}
truffles: haha
mircea_popescu: hahahaha
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller your browswer prolly choked on the memory leaking. relaod it ?
dub: choked on the memory leaking
dub: do you by any chance work for juniper networks?
pankkake: browsers are like windows 9x these days. they don't last a few days of uptime
kakobrekla: too much nsa in ur tabs
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg3657668#msg3657668
ozbot: Terrible Experience with Bets of Bitcoin / Bitbet
kakobrekla: re: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=4
pankkake: who's fat?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.37100001 = 0.742 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: the guys who is pretending to be mpoe-pr obv
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.371 = 2.226 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.3702 = 1.851 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 10907 @ 0.001045 = 11.3978 BTC [-] {3}
truffles: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=17 hmmm
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets bash
mike_c: it's frustrating that mpoe-pr was actually respectful and helpful for most of that conversation, and snackman just kept crying and not listening.
truffles: respectful?
truffles: link plz
mike_c: yeah, like actually trying to explain things to him
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 622.5, Best ask: 624.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.50000, Last trade: 622.5, 24 hour volume: 86363.14823813, 24 hour low: 453.29, 24 hour high: 650.0, 24 hour vwap: 550.7514
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 3985 @ 0.00339988 = 13.5485 BTC [+] {6}
mike_c: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg3645066#msg3645066
ozbot: Terrible Experience with Bets of Bitcoin / Bitbet
mike_c: "I understand that it's hard not to take it personally when you've lost BTC, but no, seriously, if you're into BTC I think it'd be great if you spent the time and the energy (this isn't "condescension", again; it takes a lot of time and energy, far more than most people are used to expending, to wisely and correctly handle Bitcoin"
mike_c: i guess frustrating because i tried the same when he was crying in this channel, and got just as far.
pankkake: bascially he used "bets of bitcoin" like a web wallet?
mike_c: and refused to try to understand double spending
truffles: i didnt get respectful out of that, it wasnt the usual though
truffles: "Unconfirmed bets are not refunded. Kindly see FAQ, and include tx fees next time. Think of the miners!" >>> as a gambler id be pissed if it was 10 cent
pankkake: the lesson here is really do not send money from another service that isn't even a web wallet, there is zero guarantee it would be sent on time
pankkake: especially if you encounter a have-to-wait-for-cold-storage situation
truffles: i dont think thats the lesson i got
truffles: its that tough shit, we got ur money
pankkake: why learn when you can blame others?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.371 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: something like that.
truffles: lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 364 @ 0.00175 = 0.637 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: speaking of the entire psychopath thing, anyone heard anything of eclipse anymore ?
mircea_popescu: (the one pool run by the one guy that decided it's a good idea to get pissy with me)
kakobrekla: you mean the one who made biwikley payouts so coins would sit in pirates wallet?
kakobrekla: biweekly
kakobrekla: or twice a month to be exact
kakobrekla: there was an argument what biweekly means somewhere
kakobrekla: now im scared to use it
mircea_popescu: hehe
deadweasel: semi monthly?
mircea_popescu: yeah, biweekly means twice a week
kakobrekla: bimonthly
pankkake: I thought it meant you liked male weeks and female weeks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 850 @ 0.00175 = 1.4875 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: that's ovester. like semester, but with womanly bits.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.39944999 = 1.5978 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: anyway. that's all for me. see you all before 1000
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3995 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 94 @ 0.00175001 = 0.1645 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39999997 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 155 @ 0.00315855 = 0.4896 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.124 = 0.372 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 43 @ 0.00347 = 0.1492 BTC [-]
nubbins`: biweekly means every two weeks
nubbins`: bicentennial means every 200 years
kakobrekla: save it for when he is back
nubbins`: :(
nubbins`: biweekly mortgage payments
nubbins`: actually i think that argument was in here
asciilifeform: http://blog.jim.com/crypto/rdrand.html
ozbot: RDRAND « Jim’s Blog
dub: biweekly means twice a week
Ademan: ASICMINER's dividend was weak super weak, this isn't a good trend...
Ademan: s/weak //
nubbins`: except when it means every two weeks
pankkake: so today we learn languages do not make sense?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.35000001 = 0.7 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I liken that sort of stuff to the people who support Elliptic curve cryptography because the short keys let minimalist embeded smartcard hardware carry out thousands of operations a second as opposed to hundreds for RSA with appropriately long keys.
kakobrekla: http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/11/smart-tv-from-lg-phones-home-with-users-viewing-habits-usb-file-names/
kakobrekla: telescreen!
pankkake: "It sounds like the premise of a Philip K. Dick story" wait, what?
kakobrekla: yeah more details here http://doctorbeet.blogspot.com/2013/11/lg-smart-tvs-logging-usb-filenames-and.html
pankkake: this is why I don't have a "smart" anything
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.38999996 = 2.34 BTC [+] {5}
BingoBoingo: I've went from smart phones to a new prepaid burner every few months. Eventually I imagine I'll stop even that.
pankkake: how anonymous are you with that?
pankkake: I think even prepaid cell phones in France require you to activate it in some non-anonymous way
pankkake: but it's not really an issue. I just don't put anything important in my nonfree stuff
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Well here the ATT GoPhones can be activated with themselves, seem the most anon I've found so far. I imagine not too anonymous though because of calling patterns and such.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.39639999 = 2.7748 BTC [+] {4}
dub: what is it you think you are doing that requires this level of inconvenience?
dub: presumably you're not obtaining internet access in any way that links to you
dub: you've never sent or received an email with your name in it
dub: and clearly everyone you communicate with using this burner-go-round uses the same practise
pankkake: actually doing that would probably qualify you quickly as a terrorist
dub: well if they dont what you are doing is completely pointless
dub: I can't fathom a reason to deprive yourself of modern luxuries in this manner unless you actually are a terrorist
asciilifeform: maybe just practicing for being a terrorist.
BingoBoingo: dub: Mostly avoiding ex's. I mean I'm mentioning this in plaintext from an internet connection so it is already practically public.
BingoBoingo: I though aspire to be a techno hermit.
BingoBoingo: The idea of requiring some sort of proof of work to contact me unsolicited is appealing.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: just don't answer any email that doesn't include a unique tx-id of one satoshi sent to you.
asciilifeform: maybe it will catch on.
pankkake: didn't facebook do that?
pankkake: anyway one of the proof of work ideas was actually to fight spam
pankkake: +first
dub: just do away with authentication altogether
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm at the moment finding it useful to simply require people to learn to GPG to discover my email address.
dub: make your emails fungible
pankkake: I don't really understand why it didn't catch on
pankkake: I'm doing greylisting, which is kind of similar now
dub: because its retarded
dub: reputation systems work better
dub: (they still suck)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00083456 = 5.0074 BTC [-] {2}
bloctoc: dub I'm trying to sell an mp and get some credibility to the point where I can close my bank account.
bloctoc: sorry wrong channel
bloctoc: in this channel, I'm trying to get tech support for eulora.
bloctoc: so that I can make money enough money on video games to quit my job
pankkake: pro gamers in eulora already?
bloctoc: actually, I can't get past install, but I can dream.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 151 @ 0.00104202 = 0.1573 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 98 @ 0.00104202 = 0.1021 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 678 @ 0.00104164 = 0.7062 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 587 @ 0.00104007 = 0.6105 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 579 @ 0.00103983 = 0.6021 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0008307 = 2.1598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 4193 @ 0.001035 = 4.3398 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 120 @ 0.00103001 = 0.1236 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 124 @ 0.00102528 = 0.1271 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1354 @ 0.00102199 = 1.3838 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2111 @ 0.00102094 = 2.1552 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2193 @ 0.00101633 = 2.2288 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1163 @ 0.00101527 = 1.1808 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 836 @ 0.00101147 = 0.8456 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 8356 @ 0.00101095 = 8.4475 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2873 @ 0.0010096 = 2.9006 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 5577 @ 0.001003 = 5.5937 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 363 @ 0.00100054 = 0.3632 BTC [-] {4}
nubbins`: heh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 11434 @ 0.001 = 11.434 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.001752 = 0.1752 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00349499 = 0.1957 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.0008307 = 1.2045 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: I can't believe I forgot to propose a BitBet for Anand vs. Carlsen
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: I just like the match up where even though Anand is defending the title, his challenger has a manager and staff such that Anand seemed the underdog going into this in the popular narrative. Very Rocky III like.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 129 @ 0.00100999 = 0.1303 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: I just hope Anand takes his last two games as white as an opportunity to break this god damned Ruy Lopez monotony.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 110 @ 0.001022 = 0.1124 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.352 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.35100002 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00082814 = 9.0267 BTC [-]
benkay: ;;seen thestringpuller
gribble: thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 29 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> ;;ticker
benkay: ;;later tell mircea_popescu if pluggable rng, why not user-providable keys on later models?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
benkay: ;;later tell asciilifeform if pluggable rng, why not user-providable keys on later models?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 1.716643 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00344013335151 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
Ademan: dang, asicminer is tanking
BingoBoingo: Ademan: Prolly because it was a one trick pony
kakobrekla: pretty much so
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1414 @ 0.00007999 = 0.1131 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4749 @ 0.00008142 = 0.3867 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2973 @ 0.000082 = 0.2438 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3113 @ 0.00008199 = 0.2552 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: ;;asks 1000
gribble: There are currently 22117.832 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 18223113.3032 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0034 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Sell side of the orderbook filled up quite a bit
asciilifeform: benkay: 'he who will not read' the logs 'is doomed to repeat...'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You have a lot of vintage equiptment? Do you know where I could find a working Mac SE/30?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ebay.
asciilifeform: why specifically SE/30 ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 2967 @ 0.00011799 = 0.3501 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 2967 @ 0.00013 = 0.3857 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform, The 68030 cpu and 128MB of possible ram. Last one I had which I talked about before a capacitor ruptured during keygen
BingoBoingo: Turned out software may have been poorly chosen, but it was the hardware that locked the process up with fail.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm still unclear on where the hell entropy is supposed to come from on that thing.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform, Right now I'm thinking of just plugging in a microphone and hiring some hookers, Rob Ford style
nubbins`: rob ford doesn't have style
BingoBoingo: nubbins`, Honestly I think he makes Canada look better
nubbins`: what, we weren't knocking down enough old ladies?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 35000 @ 0.00011223 = 3.9281 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: nubbins`, Of course not. Rob Ford makes Canada interesting.
nubbins`: he makes toronto interesting, at least
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 122 @ 0.00337503 = 0.4118 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 875 @ 0.00349853 = 3.0612 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 321 @ 0.00381068 = 1.2232 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 329 @ 0.00396068 = 1.3031 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3899 = 0.7798 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: benkay what do you figure those two have to do with each other ?
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 635.0, Best ask: 645.0, Bid-ask spread: 10.00000, Last trade: 640.0, 24 hour volume: 61730.66663822, 24 hour low: 453.29, 24 hour high: 650.15316, 24 hour vwap: 561.79624
assbot: 123!
mircea_popescu: o hey BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: Hey mircea
BingoBoingo: I finally put in that laptop fan yesterday
BingoBoingo: And might finally go back on eve to do moar than switch skills
mircea_popescu: haha cool
BingoBoingo: That fan was sitting on the corner of my desk for a few months, but... The laptop is my online play machine. If I fucked up the surgery what would I look at cat gifs on?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 241 @ 0.00104899 = 0.2528 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 25 @ 0.0343 = 0.8575 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00198999 = 0.199 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i have no idea, maybe print some just in case
mircea_popescu: lolcat paper wallet lol
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu, Well, I keep discrete digital backups of things on top of the paper ones. Who knows what might be metadata in an SD card's text folder or something moar important? (having said that I've found places I haven't mentioned that aren't that)
BingoBoingo: lolcat brainwallets though...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 99 @ 0.001048 = 0.1038 BTC [-]
dub: stenopraphed into wallet sized cat pictures
BingoBoingo: dub, The trick is making a dicelist password and picking cat picks with the dice words in the background
dub: er steganopraph os something
BingoBoingo: Cooking half the motherboard capacitors on the intended successor to my current airgapped machine was the final push to replace the fan though.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 129 @ 0.00104999 = 0.1354 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 160 @ 0.001048 = 0.1677 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 371 @ 0.00104999 = 0.3895 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 789 @ 0.00198999 = 1.5701 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1001 @ 0.001048 = 1.049 BTC [-] {3}
kakobrekla: being a regular is a sin these days.
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg3660172#msg3660172
ozbot: Terrible Experience with Bets of Bitcoin / Bitbet
kakobrekla: fyi you are all guilty
mircea_popescu: the BitBet IRC ?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00105 = 0.105 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: http://www.coindesk.com/hacker-attack-polands-bitcoin-exchange/
mircea_popescu: there's another poland btc exchange ?
mircea_popescu: or theuy mean mtgox's thing ?!
kakobrekla: not anymore
kakobrekla: http://bidextreme.pl/
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla, They didn't mention Linode though
kakobrekla: mhm
BingoBoingo: So Euro CoinBase BIPS was haxxed https://bips.me/press#new
kakobrekla: but their css seems so fine.
BingoBoingo: I know.
BingoBoingo: Maybe they should have done like Amir is trying with Dark Wallet and made the wallet nothing but CSS in a browser plugin
kakobrekla: :>
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.38 = 0.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.08 = 0.4 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "BIPS has been a target of a coordinated attack and subsequent security breached."
mircea_popescu: and grammer breecheds too
mircea_popescu: "As a consequence BIPS will temporarily close down the wallet initiative to focus on real-time merchant processing business which does not include storing of Bitcoins."
mircea_popescu: herp.
mircea_popescu: jesus how the fuck can one be this retarded. who are these people ?!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00082899 = 1.5751 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00350013 = 0.1015 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: trilema down i think btw
mircea_popescu: myeah, working on it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2620 @ 0.00009405 = 0.2464 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1475 @ 0.00009469 = 0.1397 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/journalistic-responsibility-a-case-study/
ozbot: Journalistic responsibility, a case study pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00082969 = 8.5458 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.381 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 106 @ 0.001053 = 0.1116 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 225 @ 0.0010535 = 0.237 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30590 @ 0.00082773 = 25.3203 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 221 @ 0.00105399 = 0.2329 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 474 @ 0.00105413 = 0.4997 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.0010559 = 0.1056 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 260 @ 0.00105599 = 0.2746 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00082454 = 5.3595 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00082768 = 1.9864 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11760 @ 0.00082276 = 9.6757 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1055 @ 0.00199699 = 2.1068 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.066 = 0.396 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 21 @ 0.06357146 = 1.335 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 27 @ 0.05651852 = 1.526 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 25 @ 0.05501116 = 1.3753 BTC [-] {3}
lolerskates: starting my 6 months of lurking now
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 20 @ 0.055 = 1.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12133 @ 0.00080509 = 9.7682 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.0008001 = 0.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.389999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.39 = 3.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.06199999 = 0.31 BTC [+] {2}
davout: does someone know who runs domains4bitcoins.com ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.45486000 BTC to 909`720 shares, 50 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8225 @ 0.0000947 = 0.7789 BTC [+]
deadweasel: oh my, golden thread is shining like the sun this morning. lovely.
ThickAsThieves: http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/21/5129094/university-of-nicosia-bitcoin-payments
ozbot: Now you can pay college tuition with Bitcoin | The Verge
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 348 @ 0.00425639 = 1.4812 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.002 = 0.194 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3901 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1700 @ 0.00011917 = 0.2026 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 1700 @ 0.00013 = 0.221 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00079222 = 7.2884 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.002 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10474 @ 0.00078908 = 8.2648 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5014 @ 0.00078342 = 3.9281 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 100000 @ 0.000105 = 10.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.41999999 = 0.84 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.000785 = 1.2953 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: lol mpoe is dipping!
thestringpuller: oh my the speculators
thestringpuller: ;;seen jurov
gribble: jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 hours, 45 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <jurov> mircea_popescu: withdrawals pls :)
thestringpuller: ;;later tell jurov can I charge off the rest of my account to zero, i sent deposit
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.41999999 = 8.4 BTC [-] {2}
deadweasel: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 719.005, Best ask: 722.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.99500, Last trade: 722.0, 24 hour volume: 45626.35914703, 24 hour low: 540.41102, 24 hour high: 737.0, 24 hour vwap: 627.8128
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41999999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 235 @ 0.0036 = 0.846 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 668 @ 0.0035 = 2.338 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.000785 = 3.1008 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41999998 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: !ticker m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00078342 / 0.00082772 / 0.00085604 (206722 shares, 171.11 BTC), 7D: 0.00078342 / 0.00083522 / 0.00085604 (1553568 shares, 1,297.58 BTC), 30D: 0.00078342 / 0.00083186 / 0.00088996 (4293348 shares, 3,571.49 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14000003 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.0000948 = 0.3792 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 612 @ 0.001055 = 0.6457 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: what happens when people start selling into the massive mpoe wall?
thestringpuller: you weren't around when people did that to the ~0.0002 wall
thestringpuller: usually it bounces right off the wall like a ping pong ball
thestringpuller: the law of the wall
ThickAsThieves: we'll see
ThickAsThieves: i did think it was odd how little people sold with the price rise in fiat
kleeck: why is there an mpoe wall?
ThickAsThieves: to inflate the price?
thestringpuller: MPOE doesn't do well during volatile price swings on exchanges
thestringpuller: if that greek goes to high the price either goes too high per option and no one buys
thestringpuller: or the bot loses money
thestringpuller: perfect time though to buy mpoe
thestringpuller: buy the dip
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14000003 = 0.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00078535 = 1.5314 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 99 @ 0.00105495 = 0.1044 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.15989999 = 0.3198 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1059 @ 0.00078565 = 0.832 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: lol on its way back uppp
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 297 @ 0.00105495 = 0.3133 BTC [-]
deadweasel: lol pankkake
pankkake: :)
deadweasel: i'd like to believe this will start snackman on his path to enlightenment. but seesm as though he will retrench into stupidity.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7753 @ 0.00007165 = 0.5555 BTC [-] {21}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5091 @ 0.00078739 = 4.0086 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00388999 = 0.1673 BTC [+]
deadweasel: pankkake, i always crack up when I see costanza asking me "do you even mine?" love it
pankkake: yeah, I'm proud of that one. it works without the costanza though, it's the "do you even lift" meme. I'm surprised no one seemed to have done it before
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 668 @ 0.00388999 = 2.5985 BTC [+]
TomServo: What's the constanza connection?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.0332 = 0.2656 BTC [-]
pankkake: that image is "I seriously hope you guys don't do this"
pankkake: or generally scoffing
thestringpuller: LABCOIN: Do you even mine?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.40999988 = 4.1 BTC [+] {3}
Rawted: lol thestringpuller
Rawted: we could do that for a ton of things in the btc industry
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 257 @ 0.00078342 = 0.2013 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 123 @ 0.02984973 = 3.6715 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 24 @ 0.02821 = 0.677 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ls
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 312 @ 0.00228792 = 0.7138 BTC [-] {6}
deadweasel: all your terminal are belong to us
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00177841 = 1.7784 BTC [-] {11}
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=117885;sa=showPosts who's that guy? me like
deadweasel: lol
deadweasel: indeed
dub: ..smh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.04066666 = 0.122 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.14 = 1.12 BTC [-] {4}
jurov: kakobrekla i now know how you felt when there was bull session in kiberpipa
altoz: ;; bids 0
gribble: There are currently 15414801 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 33189957.8562 USD in total. | Data vintage: 240.3983 seconds
altoz: ;; asks 999999999
gribble: There are currently 26767.035 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999.0 USD, worth 146751757.423 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0031 seconds
jurov: am at ATM introduction, lots of ppl, tv reporter, bitcoinity projected on the wall
jurov: only thing missing is bitcoinity all time high gif
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00077582 = 10.0469 BTC [-]
Tulak_: yo
pankkake: sup
Tulak_: basically I come from bitcointalk land
Tulak_: and want to educate myself in here
Apocalyptic: ouch, that's a daunting task you have ahead of you
Tulak_: i know
Tulak_: I want to get away from the airheads
Tulak_: bitcointalk is composed of 99% fud. and i'm no better than that
Tulak_: i am looking to join your cult
Ademan: Tulak_: first you must sacrifice a virgin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.15988822 = 2.2384 BTC [+] {4}
Tulak_: Does it have to be a relative
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.1599 = 1.4391 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: Apocalyptic: who are you even?
thestringpuller: Tulak_: step one is actually buying assets and learning to trade
TomServo: I thought step one was to /part and read a few months worth of log.bitcoin-assets.com
deadweasel: lol
pankkake: unless step two is realize to never to take advice from strangers
thestringpuller: Look how fast you are learning
thestringpuller: STEP 3 is to trust no one
thestringpuller: step 4 is to rob niggas
Tulak_: Thats Step 1 for me
Tulak_: trust no one
Tulak_: not the nigger part
deadweasel: niggers are people too, don't trust em
gecko_x2: you can trust me
deadweasel: racist
thestringpuller: step 5 is playing lots of gta
thestringpuller: step 6 is graduation
thestringpuller: step 7 is heartbreak an 808's
thestringpuller: etc. etc.
Tulak_: back to step one
Tulak_: is there a platform which is advised to acquire bitcoins from
deadweasel: coinbase is easy, if slow and not always open.
deadweasel: Connect bank account, purchase. You can sell and have $$ deposited back to bank acct. very easy.
Tulak_: i am trying to let go everything I read on bitcointalk
deadweasel: here comes a reflink to coinbase: https://coinbase.com/?r=508ae579ead0660200000066&utm_campaign=user-referral&src=referral-link
Tulak_: oh great. reflinks
deadweasel: you can give it to them or give it to me. Which one have you had more personal coversations with?
Tulak_: i like your jedi mindtricks
deadweasel: these are not the coins you're looking for, go buy litecoins.
deadweasel: ;)
thestringpuller: coinbase is sorta lame tho
thestringpuller: they are always out of coins
deadweasel: entirely
deadweasel: like 20% of the time they are out.
deadweasel: mostly when it counts. but for buy and hold, there you are.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.40999998 = 0.82 BTC [+]
altoz: ;; bids
gribble: (bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
altoz: ;; bids 0
gribble: There are currently 15415600 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 32730066.198 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0126 seconds
altoz: ;; asks 99999999
gribble: There are currently 26624.421 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 144128612.843 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.8846 seconds
ThickAsThieves: XBOND Total Recall https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=265287.msg3666680#msg3666680
Tulak_: gribble, isnt that the otc bot?
dub: wrong movie, sry
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1259 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 16133 @ 0.00009479 = 1.5292 BTC [+] {3}
Tulak_: You got a lot of nerve showing up around here
pankkake: I scraped a few under 105 from last night, yay
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00010818 = 0.1082 BTC [+] {6}
pankkake: I'll miss those daily dividend mails
dub: get your ass to mars
ThickAsThieves: hehe
Apocalyptic: thestringpuller, and who are you to begin with ?
ThickAsThieves: xbond, the only no-drama btc asset ever?
pankkake: don't be so sure
ThickAsThieves: hehe
ThickAsThieves: it aint over yet!
pankkake: many bought at crazy prices
ThickAsThieves: ah
Tulak_: when I am in possession of btc, where shall I go
kakobrekla: to the moon!
Tulak_: okay
ThickAsThieves: btc is not a travel device
pankkake: while overdone I don't why, I irloled
pankkake: know
kakobrekla: Tulak_ you should go right here where you alraedy are.
thestringpuller: Apocalyptic: My name is Don Corleone
thestringpuller: I PULL THE STRINGS
Apocalyptic: sounds legit
altoz: ;; asks 99999999
gribble: There are currently 26863.315 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 144306874.118 USD in total. | Data vintage: 68.3991 seconds
altoz: ;; bids 0
gribble: There are currently 15414152 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 32806358.5026 USD in total. | Data vintage: 73.6152 seconds
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: are you kidding? XBond has had the biggest bubble yet it seems
dub: not to be confused with wangs
Tulak_: kakobrekla: thanks for sending me into a loophole :D
kakobrekla: yw!
kakobrekla: :)
ThickAsThieves: sense, can you make it?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 449 @ 0.00495761 = 2.226 BTC [+] {6}
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: the IPO was at 0.001
thestringpuller: it flew up to as high as 0.00117
ThickAsThieves: it got much higher than that
thestringpuller: yea, aka a bubble
thestringpuller: :P
ThickAsThieves: bubble = drama?
thestringpuller: YESSIR
thestringpuller: DRAMA ERRYWHERE
thestringpuller: jkjk
ThickAsThieves: potentially
ThickAsThieves: we'll see i guess
dub: drama the bubble that never pops
ThickAsThieves: i warned everyone
ThickAsThieves: more than once
ThickAsThieves: not to overpay
kakobrekla: about what
kakobrekla: a
pankkake: xbond was the bond that did 18.25 APY, but every two weeks
kakobrekla: i guess taht is unavoidable and by definition necessary
kakobrekla: or something.
ThickAsThieves: every 2 weeks?
ThickAsThieves: like BFL?
pankkake: it's quite telling though, many other bonds were under face value at the time
pankkake: in the buy it and sell it over and over sense
Tulak_: are assets sold otc
ThickAsThieves: rarely
ThickAsThieves: but sometimes
Tulak_: excuse my retard questions
ThickAsThieves: better than retard answers
ThickAsThieves: :)
kakobrekla: no, milk is not a scammer.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 652 @ 0.00077582 = 0.5058 BTC [-]
jurov: I tell everyone to buy slowly, not at once, but it gets ignored
jurov: Not such a thrill, i guess.
KRS-: btc never ceases to amaze me..unreal..just sayin.
Tulak_: whats the common platform for assets
ThickAsThieves: so xbond buyback = AM1 rally?
ThickAsThieves: lets see
dub: Tulak_: mpex
thestringpuller: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 631.18
Tulak_: dub:tyvm
pankkake: since we're spamming reflinks, the easiest (and cheapest) way to buy mpex stuff is https://coinbr.com/ref?c=V1CUawCMeE
thestringpuller: ;;calc (700 - 695) / 700
gribble: 0.00714285714286
thestringpuller: ;;calc (725 - 695) / 725
gribble: 0.0413793103448
thestringpuller: damn options are so expensive
kakobrekla: from every reflink posted in -assets kako gets 5%
dub: just man up and pay the $20k fee to trade on mpex
thestringpuller: most expensive I've ever seen options
thestringpuller: ;;calc (700 - 500) / 700
gribble: 0.285714285714
thestringpuller: ;;calc (900 - 500) / 700
gribble: 0.571428571429
thestringpuller: !ticker m ^OIX
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / 1,169.30013031 / 1,169.30013031 (15 shares, 4.74 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
thestringpuller: lololololol
pankkake: I have havelocks in my havelocks http://i.imgur.com/UJ1whEm.png
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5424 @ 0.00078122 = 4.2373 BTC [+]
dub: needs moar CSS
Tulak_: so bitfunder and btc-tc shut down
Tulak_: is this related to ukyo?
cazalla: top of your class eh
Tulak_: im a bottomfeeder, tbh
deadweasel: good, you got your feet on the ground. good place to start.
Tulak_: next step is to get them wet
pankkake: bitfunder = Ukyo, btc-tc = burnside
pankkake: ;;seen burnside
gribble: burnside was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, 41 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <burnside> lol
pankkake: ;;seen Ukyo
gribble: Ukyo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 5 days, 23 hours, 47 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <Ukyo> mgio: pm
Tulak_: or get burned
cazalla: i wish saltydroid would cover some of this shit
pankkake: http://gawker.com/what-was-on-alleged-silk-road-boss-laptop-at-the-momen-1469122014 lol
ozbot: What Was On Alleged Silk Road Boss' Laptop At The Moment of His Arrest
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.18288919 = 0.9144 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15065 @ 0.00078125 = 11.7695 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: running a drug empire from a public library
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.18288919 = 0.9144 BTC [+] {3}
thestringpuller: Gator boots with dem pimped out Gucci suits
deadweasel: liabilities greater than their assets! lol.
cazalla: article mentions he kept a journal
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.18288899 = 1.2802 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 275 @ 0.00209602 = 0.5764 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.0020967 = 0.1887 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1828999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.40999712 = 1.64 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.18292812 = 1.2805 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.18339446 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.00209489 = 0.2011 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.00209489 = 0.2011 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.18339446 = 0.3668 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.0038517 = 1.1555 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.18339999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0020949 = 0.2095 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22609 @ 0.00078359 = 17.7162 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: It's officially done, all XBOND units recalled and paid for.
thestringpuller: wait what
thestringpuller: you rebought xbond at 0.095?!?
thestringpuller: err
thestringpuller: 0.00095?
ThickAsThieves: ?
ThickAsThieves: no
mgio: no, they are recalled for 1.05
ThickAsThieves: .00105
mgio: so happy i sold all mine last week :)
mgio: yeah .00105 lol
mgio: now if only if that could happen with ukyo.loan :( :(
ThickAsThieves: hopefully
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1834011 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ah there it is "And this is why you should never buy this type of bonds above their buy-back value. You never know when one of these operators is going to "cleanly" shut down and screw you out of your money."
mgio: where did you see that? no one is being screwed, its a HUGE risk to buy it at above the buy back value
pankkake: as always, blame others for your mistakes!
ThickAsThieves: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=265287.msg3667362#msg3667362
ozbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] Bitcoin's Only Exchangeable Bond
mgio: yeah, oh well, yup. blame others
mgio: its sad to see the bitcoin security world slowly fall apart :(
ThickAsThieves: i'm not really sure if that's what happening
ThickAsThieves: it's certainly changing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1835 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: was it really a bitcoin security world anyway?
mgio: well all the exchanges shutting down :(. I think we need a real peer-to-peer distributed security exchange based on colored coins that can't be shut down
ThickAsThieves: no
ThickAsThieves: we need things worth investing, and places worth doing it
thestringpuller: mpex will never go anywhere
mgio: otherwise the SEC will also come and shut it down
thestringpuller: the 3 play exchanges were doomed to fail
thestringpuller: shut up mgio
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.20999946 = 0.63 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: lol
thestringpuller: no more of this talk of p2p exchanges
mgio: why do you think they were doomed to fail?
mgio: why not stringpuller?
thestringpuller: Because, as ThickAsThieves was need things worth investing in and places worth doing it
thestringpuller: as ThickAsThieves said*
Apocalyptic: everytime I see "peer-to-peer distributed exchange" i loose faith
pankkake: the issue is that every time it is mentionned without any thoughts of "how is this going to work"
pankkake: it's basically a meme
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2678 @ 0.00012669 = 0.3393 BTC [+] {2}
Apocalyptic: i have a deep conviction it can't work by design
ThickAsThieves: its like saying bitcoin solves everything again
ThickAsThieves: it cant work
pankkake: blockchain-based solutions can't solve it at least
pankkake: perhaps others, but no one found out how
Apocalyptic: yeah that is agreed upon i believe
Apocalyptic: but i extend it to any decentralized solution
ThickAsThieves: well it doesnt really solve anything that needs solving
ThickAsThieves: if people wanna have shady trading pools, they dont need a blockchain, they need to just get organized and make them
deadweasel: -otc
deadweasel: ;)
mgio: I've actually been working on figuring out how one would work
mgio: if I had the time, id do it myself
Apocalyptic: mgio, but you have the design figured out yet ,
Apocalyptic: ?
pankkake: so… I think I'm just going to widthdraw my btc, no real desire to increase my positions on havelock :(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.39006666 = 1.1702 BTC [-] {3}
kakobrekla: you should send them to some inactive bitbet address
pankkake: I'm only 0.03 up on bibet now
pankkake: SCAM!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000127 = 0.127 BTC [+]
pankkake: while winning 75% of bets
mgio: all the important stuff is already there in bitcoin, the only thing needed is need is a way to distribute info about each security, basically a peer to peer network
mgio: i know hwo it would work, i just dont have time to implement it
pankkake: what info? who owns what?
mgio: it would be no less secure than putting your faith in any of the exchanges outthere
thestringpuller: migo go buy some versace or something
pankkake: that's the easy part and actually already solved by exchanges themselves
mgio: yes but the exchanges are websites that can be shut down
pankkake: but anyone can backup the list of who owns what
pankkake: that's the one thing they did right
mgio: sure but its even simpler if anyone who wishes to participate runs a client that connects to a peer to peer network which contains all the relevant information
pankkake: that's decentralized backup, not decentralized exchange
mgio: thats just that half of it
mgio: the actually security exchange takes place using colored coins
ThickAsThieves: how many halves does it have!
mgio: basically uses the blockchain as a way to store who owns what
thestringpuller: dude. the intellectual discussion in assets has just plummetted like ASICMINER stock
thestringpuller: what's goin on
thestringpuller: why are we talking about colored coins?
ThickAsThieves: because we are lost without you
pankkake: mgio: the issue is decentralized order books. the "best" proposal by mastercoin still sucks for many reasons (you can back out of a trade and thus easily put fake buys, it's slow as fuck because you have to wait for a block each time, etc.)
mgio: colored coins are the easiest way to implement a distributed exchange, thats why. not sure why you are so pessimistic. yes, i agree, there is a lot of talking and not much doing. but it doesnt mean the ideas wont work
mgio: mastercoin is not the best
mgio: its a hack
mgio: colored coins requires no change to the bitcoin protocol
mgio: you can't back out of trades
thestringpuller: you are a n00b for thinking that
mgio: bitcoin allows you to have more complicated transactiosn, like...this transaction doesnt happen until both these things happen - the security is sent and it is paid for
mgio: well explain to me how it would be done
pankkake: if you want unstopable exchanges just hide them. proxies, i2p, tor, whatever
mgio: yeah right... like silk road
mgio: even that got shut down eventually
pankkake: because the owner was a dweeb
pankkake: some places are older than SR
pankkake: and again, exchanges already know how to handle their shutdown
mgio: yes because they dont have notoreity that SR had
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.2099999 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: think of it like this. imagine all we had in the first place was colored coins. then some guys says 'hey check it out, i made the same thing but all in one interface with all these features, and its fast, and you can see all the markets, it so cool'
mgio: my point is, any exchange that actualyl becomes successful will eventually get shut down
ThickAsThieves: the premise is wrong here
mgio: im not sure what you are saying TAT
ThickAsThieves: to my knowledge, no bitcoin asset exchange has been 'shut down'
mgio: they were pressured to
ThickAsThieves: the owners have closed shop
ThickAsThieves: no they were not
ThickAsThieves: they were advised to
mgio: and if they didnt...well there would have been big trouble for them
mgio: im not saying i agree with it
ThickAsThieves: only if they didnt do what they needed
ThickAsThieves: and they were not prepared to do what was needed
Apocalyptic: sometimes it's hard to distinguish between pressure and advice
mgio: but we see now that even avoiding business with US customers doesnt protect you from the SEC
ThickAsThieves: do we?
mgio: yes, well theyve called me
ThickAsThieves: the SEC called you?
mgio: yup
ThickAsThieves: for what
mgio: investigating bitfunder
thestringpuller: Uh huh
ThickAsThieves: why you?
mgio: cause i post on the forums
Apocalyptic: ***breaking news***
pankkake: what
mgio: they've called a bunch of people im sure
mgio: they read the forums, im sure they read irc
Apocalyptic: there is no such things like assets' drama
pankkake: well senators ask redditors now
ThickAsThieves: what are they invetsigating
Apocalyptic: true that pankkake
mgio: weexchange and bitfunder
ThickAsThieves: what did they want to know
mgio: they wanted records of transaction logs and such
mgio: wanted to know if i was owed money by ukyo
mgio: if i had trouble withdrawing money from weexchange, etc
ThickAsThieves: so basically we are to assume someone has reported him for not paying out their money?
mgio: that probably happened. or more liekly they've been reading the bitcoin security forum all along
pankkake: that feels unreal
mgio: im guessing that what happened is ukyo was contacted warning him that he might be running an unlicensed security exchange at some point
mgio: and decided to shut down
ThickAsThieves: but qall they asked about was owing money
ThickAsThieves: the rest is just your conjecture?
mgio: yes, thats true
mgio: something make ukyo want to shut down
mgio: and since i know the sec is involved, it makes the most sense
mgio: but i dont know for sure
dub: pankkake: dat unreals feels
Bugpowdurr: [16:19] <mgio> im guessing that what happened is ukyo was contacted warning him that he might be running an unlicensed security exchange at some point
dub: ukyo was talking about how he had a team of lawyers working on getting registered and legal
Bugpowdurr: LOL this was known from day one.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10895 @ 0.00012024 = 1.31 BTC [-] {4}
thestringpuller: Bugpowdurr: what's the action
mgio: yes, i know, but as any in the industry knows, that is completely IMPOSSIBLE
Bugpowdurr: I mean... Nefario was stupid enough not to know
dub: I always suspected what eh ment was he asked his mom if it was ok to run a srs bzns
thestringpuller: what's the move? options?
mgio: legally there is no way to run a legit bitcoin secuirty exchange
Bugpowdurr: but POST GLBSE to not know is just... delusional.
mgio: it takes tons of money
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 110 @ 0.0038612 = 0.4247 BTC [-] {2}
mgio: there is a reason why real stock IPOs are huge deals and need to be backed by huge banks
Bugpowdurr: The action is... China / bitstamp arb
mgio: the amount of regulations and money involved is staggering, no startup could ever do it
mgio: the best you could do is open an exchange for accredited investors, people with high net worth
dub: dude you're underistmating how awesome ukyo thinks he is
mgio: oh and ever security would have to go through the process too, none of the present securities would ever be able to list themselves on such an exchange
dub: Graet even thinks he is
dub: and he's bascially jesus
mgio: im sure he tried, and learned that it was impossible
mgio: he has some new plans for weexchange he told me about
mgio: im afraid it may never happen now though, oh well
dub: in the end, who gives a fuck?
thestringpuller: couldn't be better said than dub wub
mgio: i care only because i own a ton of ukyo.loan shares
mgio: i probably stand to lose more money in bitcoin that anyone else out there lol
ThickAsThieves: has ukyo given you a definite plan for repayment?
mgio: nope
mgio: with bitcoin at $700 total outstanding value of all ukyo.loan shares is $1.4 million
mgio: i dont think he has that much money
ThickAsThieves: maybe he can IPO BF
pankkake: what did he do with that loan?
mgio: hes been using it for new things for weexchange that he has yet to announce
ThickAsThieves: waitll you see the CSS dub
ThickAsThieves: :)
pankkake: if there is one site that needs CSS, it's weexchange!
Ukto: heh
Ukto: Ukyo _is working on weexchange
Ukto: mgio: given the situation I am working my best to make things right
mgio: oh hallo!
ThickAsThieves: there's two of them i knew it!
mgio: i know, i still have faith
Ukto: and Ukyo has not dissapeared
Ukto: ThickAsThieves: heh
altoz: ;; asks 9999999999
gribble: There are currently 25602.422 bitcoins offered at or under 9999999999.0 USD, worth 244241407.447 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0034 seconds
altoz: ;; bids 0
gribble: There are currently 15503356 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 32391679.8849 USD in total. | Data vintage: 4.2820 seconds
mgio: just getting kind of anxious
Ukto: makes two of us :/
thestringpuller: You still owe me an FF7 Ukto
thestringpuller: :P
Ukto: thestringpuller: you said you got your copy for cheaper elsewhere
Ukto: and you never gave me tbc so hush
Ukto: btc~
dub: what a scammer
thestringpuller: I KNO RITE
thestringpuller: gosh ukto
Ukto: -_-
thestringpuller: $avg
mpexbot: thestringpuller: 631.18
ThickAsThieves: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 15503356 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 32391679.8849 USD in total. | Data vintage: 151.1249 seconds
ThickAsThieves: whoa
mgio: if you want to work on a peer to peer distributed security exchange let me know, lol
dub: ;;baratio
gribble: Total bids: 32391679 USD. Total asks: 25602 BTC. Ratio: 1265.18028 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 163.5256 seconds
mgio: although i have no idea how you could make money off of it lol
dub: altoz: use that ^^
Ukto: I dont want to work on anything other than weexchange heh
mgio: well if you need a programmer, let me know
thestringpuller: ;;seen benkay
gribble: benkay was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 16 hours, 38 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <benkay> ;;later tell asciilifeform if pluggable rng, why not user-providable keys on later models?
thestringpuller: ;;seen mircea_popescu
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 hours, 36 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> http://trilema.com/2013/journalistic-responsibility-a-case-study/
Tulak_: mgio
Tulak_: whats your language
mgio: english
mgio: lol just kidding
ThickAsThieves: love
mgio: java, c, c++, javascript,
mgio: i dont like php, have no experience with ruby but could learn,
Tulak_: the only language i'm capable of is php
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4099993 = 0.82 BTC [+]
Tulak_: and I hate the living hell out of it
Tulak_: we are learning java at university
pankkake: that's understandable
pankkake: the more you know it, the more you hate it
Tulak_: too many languages to choose from
Tulak_: and they are the same in some ways
mgio: oh and objective-c, i write iphone apps too
mgio: check out my Ozcoin Mining Pool Monitor on the app store
pankkake: ew
mgio: why ew
Tulak_: What do you do with c and c++. i've never done more than console stuff lol
Tulak_: write your name: Tulak. Hello Tulak!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 9 @ 0.0497 = 0.4473 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.0329 = 0.2961 BTC [+]
pankkake: you write Bitcoin for example (C++)
mgio: most recently i had to write a IM client using libpurple which is written in C, back in the day I ONLY wrote in C
mgio: I actually really love C++
Tulak_: I did an apprenticeship prior to going to university
mgio: if you are writing device drivers or an OS software you usually need to write it in C
Tulak_: and the scholar really destroyed c++ for us. deeming it a useless piece of shit
Tulak_: he said you dont need c++, and then we switched to php for unknown reasons
mgio: its hard to use, its not modern, but for many things its still the best
Tulak_: i think I will need to get back to c then
mgio: php is probably the worst modern language ever written
pankkake: lol. you're not going to learn proper C++ in school anyway
Tulak_: true that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.0039 = 0.1053 BTC [+]
Tulak_: You don't see a lot of webstuff in c
Tulak_: which is understandable
mgio: for website stuff i still prefer java and javascript
Tulak_: everyone is a webdeveloper nowadays. meh
thestringpuller: the best webserver ever is in C
Tulak_: do you code in plain java
Tulak_: or stuff like faces etc
pankkake: well a lot of the actual web stuff happens in C. databases, servers, etc.
mgio: pure java
mgio: for the client javascript side there are tons of libraries that make things easy
Tulak_: so far I've only looked for the easiest ways
Tulak_: rails, laravel, etc.
Tulak_: i feel ashamed :o
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.4099993 = 2.05 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 808 @ 0.00209489 = 1.6927 BTC [-]
mgio: jquery, knockout, coffeescript, underscore, angular, slickgrid, bootstrap, jade, etc.
mgio: i wish i knew ruby, maybe i'd like ruby on rails better
daybyter: I know some Ruby.
daybyter: Rails is not bad.
daybyter: But I prefer java for most of my stuff.
mgio: java is so easy
Apocalyptic: java is pure crap
daybyter: You are just used to it.
daybyter: But it is great for trading stuff.
mgio: whats wrong with java? are you a C# fan?
Apocalyptic: not at all
Apocalyptic: i'm not going to enumare the well known facts about java
Apocalyptic: i'm more of a C fan
daybyter: mgio: you do btc java stuff?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00078854 = 2.2079 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 3 @ 0.03433999 = 0.103 BTC [+]
WillTablet: Hi
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.06 = 0.18 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.0001249 = 0.1249 BTC [+]
WillTablet: Do you need to declare your bitcoin assets for capital gains tax?
dub: talk to your lawyer but generally, yes
ThickAsThieves: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-segway-currency-180200628.html
ozbot: Bitcoin Is the Segway of Currency - Yahoo Finance
thestringpuller: ;;market sell 1000000
gribble: A market order to sell 1000000 bitcoins right now would net 33224187.7105 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0013 USD, resulting in an average price of 33.2242 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0122 seconds
dub: ThickAsThieves: I stopped reading at 'it then opened on tuesday at..'
pankkake: 60% of bitcoins are spent on satoshi dice
pankkake: amazing journalism
turbo_ac100: ;;market sell 100
gribble: A market order to sell 100 bitcoins right now would net 74583.0447 USD and would take the last price down to 745.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 745.8304 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0003 seconds
turbo_ac100: :P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 111 @ 0.03559817 = 3.9514 BTC [+] {7}
thestringpuller: ;;market sell 30
gribble: A market order to sell 30 bitcoins right now would net 22483.7161 USD and would take the last price down to 747.0500 USD, resulting in an average price of 749.4572 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0000 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.03956285 = 0.2769 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.04085 = 0.2451 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: > In fact I was watching the price that day and I wouldn't be surprised if the price on the exchanges went from ~$700 or so to $750 in a matter of minutes.
kakobrekla: lol, thats reason enough not to bet.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200000 @ 0.00077517 = 155.034 BTC [-] {5}
pankkake: "I expect MP was abandoned as a child and this is how s/he gets back at the world."
truffles: a lil more than just that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 3 @ 0.04199999 = 0.126 BTC [+]
deadweasel: i assume golden thread, pankkake ?
pankkake: yup
deadweasel: :D
deadweasel: it's the troll-gift that keeps on giving
deadweasel: the golden road
truffles: hello deadweasel
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.00199 = 0.1632 BTC [-]
AndrewJackson: ;;market sell 10000
gribble: A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 6428238.2662 USD and would take the last price down to 567.5000 USD, resulting in an average price of 642.8238 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 137.1150 seconds
truffles: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 771.4632, Best ask: 772.58181, Bid-ask spread: 1.11861, Last trade: 771.4632, 24 hour volume: 39106.11830864, 24 hour low: 595.21, 24 hour high: 784.4444, 24 hour vwap: 697.57273
truffles: going up up up
jurov: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 270831 | Current Difficulty: 6.094826798883545E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 272159 | Next Difficulty In: 1328 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 20 hours, 28 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 668130491.865 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.62256
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 84 @ 0.0038733 = 0.3254 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.39 = 1.17 BTC [-]
mike_c: bitbet feature request: bitbet.us/bet/[id]/data.json returns json object with relevant bet information. weighted no/yes, current weight, etc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00078643 = 4.5613 BTC [+]