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pankkake: > not heating yourself with a bitcoin miner
Namworld: I'm no miner
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 324 @ 0.00109498 = 0.3548 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00685999 = 0.2744 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 23 @ 0.05110001 = 1.1753 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 238.00001, Best ask: 238.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49999, Last trade: 238.50000, 24 hour volume: 17233.68261545, 24 hour low: 222.00000, 24 hour high: 239.02000, 24 hour vwap: 230.84519
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1160 / 230.8
gribble: 5.0259965338
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.722 = 2.888 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: jurov http://trilema.com/2013/the-conference-second-edition/#comment-95910
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.71611442 = 5.0128 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.0511 = 0.1022 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3197 @ 0.00082206 = 2.6281 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.0064793 = 0.7775 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 125 @ 0.0064799 = 0.81 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 141 @ 0.0511 = 7.2051 BTC [-]
[\]: mircea_popescu: [\\\] <--- VIP attendee ;-)
mircea_popescu: you comin' ? cool.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.0064798 = 0.2268 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: [\\\] gotta make a comment there so you can pay.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 135 @ 0.00109498 = 0.1478 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: quickjump to stats from bet view added.
Apocalyptic: out of curiosity [\\\], what btc business are you running ?
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic don't you know ? he ran the world famous shakuru disbursement fund
kakobrekla: and some pirate stuff?
mircea_popescu: poor imsa.
mircea_popescu: anyway, Apocalyptic, he's an old guy that took a bad beat (cause he's smart but also doesn't listens!) and stuck through it. that sort of thing builds character of vipness.
nubbins`: vipness, pronounced vee-eye-penis
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: just as long as it doesn't turn to wee
mircea_popescu: wait so bitfunder is closing ?
mircea_popescu: how long have i been away!
mircea_popescu: dub: 'moving to panama' is now a meme << not only has been dub on a roll yest, but moreover the meme should be panakkake!
nubbins`: TO THE PANAMA
mircea_popescu: this was some epic log shit going on.
mircea_popescu: i take one day off to walk ma bitchez, you go dang it all to heck!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082099 = 3.284 BTC [-]
nubbins`: i'd ask someone to name an album, but the last time i tried all i got was links to dance music
mircea_popescu: .bate
mircea_popescu: .boat
mircea_popescu: omg huyse hao do u speal
nubbins`: leel
mircea_popescu: .baet
nubbins`: .bait
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdlr52Vncz1qf9ve4o1_500.jpg
pankkake: .bite
chsados: can someone help a noob out? new to linux and want to update electrum, is just doing the pip install considered the normal way to upgrade programs?
chsados: #electrum is deader than a floating fish
pankkake: if you can have a package for your distribution it is better
chsados: yea, i have looked on electrums website for a PPA to add, dont see any reference
pankkake: nubbins`: http://youtu.be/o3b1AicDie4
mircea_popescu: chsados i'd love to help ya but i never used the thing.
chsados: ok :) ill just wait for some life in #electrum - thx
pankkake: ubuntu? I would be surprised if it wasn't packaged
chsados: yea im on ubuntu
pankkake: well, indeed the official website only mentions pip :/
chsados: when you say packaged - are you referring to adding a PPA?
mircea_popescu: i'd be surprised if the package worked.
pankkake: yeah
pankkake: actually it's already in there http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/electrum
chsados: nice
chsados: where did you find that
nubbins`: "i am the grave dancer, and i dance on your grave. uahahahaha."
pankkake: googled ubuntu electrum ;)
chsados: oh, pankkake the one in ubuntus software store is till 1.8.1
pankkake: I see. any reason you need the latest? otherwise I'd wait for an update
chsados: nope, you're right no reason not to wait, newest version isn't critical
[\]: the one in the windows PPA is 2.4.3
mircea_popescu: numbers are always bigger in windows.
pankkake: yeah Windows 7 is actually version 6.1 or something
mircea_popescu: i suppose their numbers must just not be very good, so they wear out a lot faster.
pankkake: as we know, it's better to have more numbers
mircea_popescu: or at least a large amount thereof.
[\]: pankkake: unless its stds
kakobrekla: my bitcoin address starts with 9
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00635051 = 0.1334 BTC [-] {3}
[\]: my bitcoinaddress is 1.
[\]: I been around so long, satoshi got his bitcoins from me.
mircea_popescu: you mean 1///
nubbins`: pankkake: i'll trade ya for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M1wSv4hHVQ
[\]: mircea_popescu: remember when we used to trade like 10k btc and the total USD was like $4?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 114 @ 0.00634412 = 0.7232 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: i have this recollection of having dreamed this once
mircea_popescu: but it clearly could never have been the case.
[\]: you're dreaming about me again, mo?
mircea_popescu: just your bits.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 251 @ 0.00628749 = 1.5782 BTC [-] {4}
[\]: oh, that's cool.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.00611147 = 0.495 BTC [-] {5}
KRS1: or tits
[\]: Apocalyptic: at one point, I was one of the largest miners on eligius and other pools, then I made some bad bets and got screwed.
[\]: Now I mainly ban trolls and get labelled as an op abuser.
mircea_popescu: [\\\] remember when like, 1 terrahash total was a remarkable lifetime achievement ?
jcpham: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pwwks/wsj_bitcoin_firm_files_for_bankruptcy_alydian_inc/
mircea_popescu: i don't mean th/s. i just mean, th.
jcpham: coinlab loses more money
Apocalyptic: [\\\], I see
mircea_popescu: o no, the ycombinator people are taking over by storm!
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=312830.msg3481251#msg3481251
kakobrekla: lol
ozbot: [CRYPTOSTOCKS] Labcoin Official Thread - Self-Moderated
dexX7: rofl
jcpham: labcoin totally legit
mircea_popescu: lol
jcpham: anagram of coinlab obv
mircea_popescu: you guys are all simpleminded psychotic.
kakobrekla: alberto will be back.
kakobrekla: in some shape or form
[\]: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pwwks/wsj_bitcoin_firm_files_for_bankruptcy_alydian_inc/cd6xkm0
ozbot: mccorvic comments on WSJ: Bitcoin Firm Files for Bankruptcy (Alydian Inc., a unit of CoinLab Inc.)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 93 @ 0.00585226 = 0.5443 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu: who asked him ?
mircea_popescu: "we" ? what "we" ?
Ukyo: sigh
[\]: super obvious is always obvious after
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 481 @ 0.00554683 = 2.668 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: i guess i gotta do a write-up now.
kakobrekla: >Alydian said in court papers that it owes $600,000 to CoinLab Inc. It also listed $3 million in debt to New Zealand's XRay Holdings LLC and $40,000 in debt to Mr. Vessenes.
kakobrekla: lulz
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00082099 = 13.1358 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: also >Mr. Vessenes, who signed the bankruptcy petition, couldn't be reached for comment. Alydian's bankruptcy attorney also couldn't be reached. A spokeswoman for the Bitcoin Foundation declined to comment.
kakobrekla: that sums it up
[\]: See no evil
[\]: Speak no evil
jcpham: smells like coinlab fraud
[\]: Pay no evil
jcpham: claiming invisible losses
jcpham: but what do i know
[\]: Yeah
[\]: 3 months and already throwing in the towel?
[\]: either they had a terrible business plan
[\]: had no foresight
[\]: are a bunch of retards
[\]: OR
[\]: they went to Vegas with jcpham
nubbins`: it can be more than one thing
[\]: nubbins`: like retarded and no foresight?
nubbins`: occam's razor, amitire?
[\]: no
nubbins`: wait. amirite!
[\]: occam's razor isn't an explanation.
[\]: people that use it to explain things away are retards.
abracadabra: wait.. no..
nubbins`: well, look how many retards w/o foresight there are
[\\]: thanks abracadabra
nubbins`: it's the obvious explanation
abracadabra: ack
[\\\\\\\]: now look what you did
abracadabra: dammit
abracadabra: :)
abracadabra: DBordello your gpus are still happily mining away
abracadabra: :)
[\\\\\\\]: lol
DBordello: abracadabra, yeah? Alt coins?
[\\\\\\\]: abracadabra: house warmers?
abracadabra: nah
abracadabra: still btc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 508 @ 0.00278764 = 1.4161 BTC [-]
DBordello: 170 BTC worth :)
abracadabra: might switch them over to ltc
DBordello: abracadabra, have a sense if they have broken even for you?
[\]: abracadabra: careful, the vrms might be shot.
abracadabra: no idea DBordello
DBordello: abracadabra, hah :)
abracadabra: ya.. some 5970s are toast
abracadabra: 5970s were shitty design tbh
DBordello: Still have them in the same setup? 6x and 5x on MSI boards?
[\]: specifically, they mine fine on bitcoin, you try to switch and it doesn't work and then when you try to switch back, you can't
[\]: I agree.. 5970s sucked.
abracadabra: yep.. 5x
[\]: I liked my 5830s
[\]: 5850s were ok too.
DBordello: Yeah, the 5970s were trash.
DBordello: I liked the 5850s
abracadabra: 5870s ftmfw
DBordello: 5830s sucked some juice
[\]: I underclocked the 5830s
[\]: had them just as good as most peoples 5870s
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 238.74001, Best ask: 239.99986, Bid-ask spread: 1.25985, Last trade: 239.99993, 24 hour volume: 18326.11112164, 24 hour low: 222.00000, 24 hour high: 242.00000, 24 hour vwap: 231.92786
abracadabra: drive it like you stole it
DBordello: I agree
[\]: lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00550082 = 0.187 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 892 @ 0.00278765 = 2.4866 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.37 = 1.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 103 @ 0.00559708 = 0.5765 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.00542871 = 0.38 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.00703837 = 0.4997 BTC [+] {3}
[\]: so how long till havelock closes?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.00704999 = 0.1128 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: [\\\], they've been acquired by some Panama company with proper registration i heard
[\]: define 'proper.
[\]: proper for who?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6477 @ 0.00082099 = 5.3176 BTC [-]
Apocalyptic: proper to run security exchanging biz in Panama i suppose, hard to find any relevant info about it
[\]: that doesn't make them legal in the US though, right?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 263 @ 0.00704999 = 1.8541 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: didn't said it does
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/recapitulatio/
ozbot: Recapitulatio pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
pankkake: that psychopathic guy really struck you
kakobrekla: yeah, he even came back later for reaffirmation http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=4
mircea_popescu: pankkake i loved that one.
mircea_popescu: it's just... i dunno, to me it's like the icon of impotent webrat rage.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00082252 = 10.2404 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00082096 = 0.821 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 117 @ 0.00109498 = 0.1281 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/scot-young-and-the-45-billion-postit-note-court-hears-of-bankrupt-tycoons-facebook-profit-in-highprofile-divorce-case-8921482.html
ozbot: Scot Young and the $4.5 billion Post-It note: Court hears of bankrupt tycoon's Facebook 'profit' in
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 91 @ 0.00699 = 0.6361 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: "The American investigator said: 'That hit me like a dead cat buying groceries.'"
nubbins`: lel
Diablo-D3: wat
mircea_popescu: the cheekiness of this entire fiat system
mircea_popescu: guy is in jail because he "failed to explain why he's poor now".
mircea_popescu: the gall ? his fucking business already.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 164 @ 0.00109 = 0.1788 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.05300001 = 0.212 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00559001 = 0.1901 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00082006 = 8.8156 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12883 @ 0.00081912 = 10.5527 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: I guess the advantage to bitbet not resolving early is all that 1% fee refund opportunity
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1227 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: it's a lot better than that : the cost of having 10 people in a NOC watching it like hawks is x
mircea_popescu: the cost of having a few admins do it within a day is maybe 1% x
KRS1: /me
dexX7: http://youtu.be/WeuXMao99_g?t=2m59s the twist. the media shows the bad guys now with happy faces.
ozbot: Bitcoin Will Survive Anything. The Cats Out Of The Bag. Andrea Castillo - YouTube
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-october-2013-statement-1/
ozbot: S.NSA, October 2013 Statement (1) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
pankkake: what are special stock warrants?
mircea_popescu: well, do you know what stock warrants are, in fiat ?
pankkake: the basics. but I don't understand what they are used for, here
mircea_popescu: it's a right to buy shares at a certain price.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3200 @ 0.00250077 = 8.0025 BTC [-] {12}
pankkake: ok, after googling the fingerprints, I understand better :)
mircea_popescu: (c) The agreement between the parties is that Stanislav Datskovskiy will handle the operational, research and technical aspects of the venture, and jointly with Mircea Popescu the strategic management of the venture through a consensus process ; whereas Mircea Popescu will handle marketing, accounting and MPEx-compliant reporting for the venture, and jointly with Stanislav Datskovskiy the strategic management of the ve
mircea_popescu: nture through a consensus process. As such Stanislav Datskovskiy is entitled to and will be issued a number of SSWs equal to 70% of the shares sold per 3.2.a above, at a price equal to the average price established by the IPO, and Mircea Popescu is entitled to and will be issued a number of SSWs equal to 30% of the shares sold per 3.2.a above, at a price equal to the average price established by the IPO. Further, any s
mircea_popescu: ubsequent share issuance by S.NSA for any reason through any of the three avenues delineated under 3.2.b above will result in further SSWs being issued for Stanislav Datskovskiy, equal to 70% of the share issuance, as well as for Mircea Popescu, equal to 30% of the share issuance, with a price equal to the share price used in the share issuance.
mircea_popescu: from the ipo contract.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00671662 = 0.403 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.12260001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5977 @ 0.00081459 = 4.8688 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00600331 = 0.6003 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 885 @ 0.00108515 = 0.9604 BTC [+]
nubbins`: http://www.torontosun.com/2013/11/04/mia-recruits-julian-assange-for-new-york-concert
ozbot: M.I.A. recruits Julian Assange for New York concert |
nubbins`: hahaha
mircea_popescu: is this good ?
nubbins`: just odd
nubbins`: anyway, crazy saudi car stunts in this MIA video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uYs0gJD-LE
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7165 = 1.433 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [+]
pankkake: so these SSWs are neat indeed, better than the usual "I'm giving myself x% shares"
pankkake: or not so locked shares à la lolcoin
mircea_popescu: yeah, the ssw is the correct handle for this class of problems
mircea_popescu: now to get everyone with a clue to read up on them, leaving only the scammers doing the scummy stuff, a la lolcoin/vircurex/etc
pankkake: somehow I never thought of that, only a time-based issuance of shares
pankkake: well, you should write about it ;)
mircea_popescu: well there's the advantage of knowledge: you don't have to invent shit, you just know what the shit is.
pankkake: unless it's done already
mircea_popescu: and yeah, ima write it up for teh benefit of the general public.
mircea_popescu: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=243039639
ozbot: Limo Firm Hacked; Politician, Celeb Data Breached : NPR
mircea_popescu: herp.
pankkake: "The only point of access to the servers is through our firewall" lol
mircea_popescu: yeah. while they run macromedia.
pankkake: "it underscores the need for improving the regulatory framework" what would that change :|
mircea_popescu: nothing, except all these freelancers could get govt jobs
mircea_popescu: most plebs aspire to bureaucracy.
KRS1: https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/555817_175233089338907_73826716_n.jpg
pankkake: in France we often have pools where more than half of young people who want to become gov employees :/
pankkake: polls
pankkake: KRS1 ew
pankkake: what's more disgusting, the body or the hashtag overuse, I can't decide
Apocalyptic: pankkake, given the several advantages it's not surprising
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7893 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.38899999 = 1.945 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 444 @ 0.00109498 = 0.4862 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 231.76190, Best ask: 234.99997, Bid-ask spread: 3.23807, Last trade: 234.99997, 24 hour volume: 21424.89353707, 24 hour low: 222.00000, 24 hour high: 242.00000, 24 hour vwap: 233.34558
arij: ;;ticker --last
gribble: 231.76189
dub: ;;nethash
gribble: 3955203.05372
pankkake: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 268027 | Current Difficulty: 3.9092878763808584E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 268127 | Next Difficulty In: 100 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 12 hours, 33 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 512134543.922 | Estimated Percent Change: 31.00456
mircea_popescu: pankkake http://trilema.com/2013/the-stock-warrant-instrument-explained/
pankkake: :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.00673 = 0.6394 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 93 @ 0.002749 = 0.2557 BTC [-]
af33: Why ¨Trilema¨? What does that Name mean?
mircea_popescu: af33 it's just a name.
af33: (sorry, quotation marks arent working)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 750 @ 0.00251001 = 1.8825 BTC [-] {2}
af33: just a name..
af33: okay.
Jere_Jones: I always thought of it as a play on dilemma. But instead of two (di) sides, there are three (tri).
af33: I think thats what the word means.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.00250129 = 0.1551 BTC [-] {2}
Jere_Jones: I didn't even realize it was an actual word. :)
mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones it's basically what it was, back in 2008 when i started it.
mircea_popescu: trilemma is spelled trilema in romanian
af33: ^___^
joecool: the internet needs more romanians
mircea_popescu: whose is http://bitcoinbabble.com/ ?
joecool: mircea_popescu: not a romanian
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: dub hey you probably remember this, it was solidcoin that did the entire "unspendable 1mn coins" supernode thing right ?
mircea_popescu: im not mixing my altcoin scams here
joecool: that was solidcoin
mircea_popescu: aha ty.
joecool: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66284.0 < etc
ozbot: Solidcoin Spending trusted Nodes
mircea_popescu: a yeah
mircea_popescu: ah what delicious drama that was back in the day
mircea_popescu: and by "back in the day" we mean like... last year.
joecool: true, there will be no drama to come
joecool: there always is
joecool: bitcoin and friends never ceases to disappoint :)
joecool: s/no/new
mircea_popescu: lol. son, i am very dissapoint in your lack of dissapoint
joecool: Luke-Jr is a good source of drama
joecool: Luke-Jr: put more prayers in the blockchain :)
af33: anyone have a ¨best guess¨ for how long before we have a functional colored-coin system?
mircea_popescu: af33 about two weeks.
af33: ken from activemining is supposedly working on one. ive heard of others.
af33: why do you say that mp?
mircea_popescu: because people have been working on it for longer than bfl has been working on miners.
af33: hmm
joecool: colored-coin? will it be separate but equal?
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/
ozbot: Why I nixed p2p, colored coins and all that jazz pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: this for instance is a year old by now.
af33: whatś stopping ActiveMining from trading on MPEX?
af33: would you accept them?
mircea_popescu: which one is this ?
af33: ??
af33: https://bitfunder.com/asset/ActiveMining
mircea_popescu: well for instance they're not trading because they don't have a contract,
mircea_popescu: the guy doesn't exist in the wot,
mircea_popescu: they don't follow proper an0 reporting
mircea_popescu: and on and on.
af33: what is wot?
Apocalyptic: Web of trust
mircea_popescu: ;;getrating af33
gribble: Use the gettrust command instead. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Relying_on_the_rating
mircea_popescu: that.
Apocalyptic: ;;gettrust af33
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user Apocalyptic to user af33: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=Apocalyptic&dest=af33 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=af33 | Rated since: never
joecool: ;;gettrust Apocalyptic
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Apocalyptic!~Apocalypt@unaffiliated/apocalyptic. Trust relationship from user joecool to user Apocalyptic: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=joecool&dest=Apocalyptic | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Apocalyptic | Rated since: Mon Jul 15 09:32:50 2013
mircea_popescu: jurov she's pretty cool, the pixie huh https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg3192892#msg3192892
dexX7: mircea_popescu: http://axs.net/AMC/PPM/AM1.pdf does this count?
mircea_popescu: no pdf counts. what should it count as ?
af33: mp, would you be willing to discuss it with ken if he were interested in listing on MPEX?
af33: or would it even matter? would the SEC be after MPEX next?
af33: i don understand whatś different about it.
mircea_popescu: well few do.
af33: oooo
mircea_popescu: anyway, ken is welcome to get into the wot, like anyone else,
mircea_popescu: spend a while building positive trust, like anyone else,
mircea_popescu: then start something small. like anyone else.
mircea_popescu: of course this is moot, as this particular shit he;'s involved in will sink him
mircea_popescu: but theoretically speaking.
af33: you mean mining farms in general?
af33: or what
mircea_popescu: i mean his particular ill baked asicminer clone,
mircea_popescu: which, if memory serves, is way way late on delivering anything
dexX7: would you say the same to friedcat?
mircea_popescu: no. but he'd still have to sign a contract.
af33: what kind of contract?
mircea_popescu: dexX7 http://trilema.com/2013/the-analysis-of-a-failure-asicminer/ that's the discussion of that if you're curious.
mircea_popescu: af33 http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.NSA since i had this in a tab.
dexX7: yea pr posted this recently
mircea_popescu: a ok
af33: okay so what about SEC and closing of bitfunder, et al
dexX7: but thanks, nevertheless apprechiated
af33: ?
af33: can that happen to MPEX? whatś the difference?
mircea_popescu: well, apparently it hasn't, which is all you got to go on.
mircea_popescu: this time i eschewed rubbing it in like last time (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115693.0)
af33: ¨Bitcoin is here to end government. Not any particular one, just absolutely each and every last one of them. To work!¨
af33: okay..
af33: ányways, iḿ still not sure what you mean.
mircea_popescu: i think this will eventually be a club.
af33: this?
mircea_popescu: "the gentlemen who aren't sure wtf mp is on about" 177 Queens Avenue, London, ON N6A 1J1
af33: lol
af33: i don know where bitfunder or btct were located and iḿ not sure if location was really the determing facter.
af33: factor
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news, my rosemary bush is STILL in bloom.
mircea_popescu: this thing rocks.
af33: nobodyś interested.
af33: sorry..
af33: ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00081345 = 3.0911 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 165 @ 0.00640606 = 1.057 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7564 @ 0.00081097 = 6.1342 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 46 @ 0.05300011 = 2.438 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1549 @ 0.00109498 = 1.6961 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.00109797 = 1.098 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.00249999 = 0.425 BTC [-]
af33: does the web of trust thing work across channels?
af33: as long as i have the same name...?
af33: okay nevermind, i get it.
af33: just read the link you sent ;)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00249999 = 0.125 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.72010001 = 2.8804 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 114 @ 0.0067301 = 0.7672 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.00249999 = 1.5 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.0067301 = 0.3567 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.0067301 = 0.2221 BTC [+]
mod6: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 268047 | Current Difficulty: 3.9092878763808584E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 268127 | Next Difficulty In: 80 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 10 hours, 22 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 512339627.807 | Estimated Percent Change: 31.05702
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.72010001 BTC [-]
mod6: ;;nethash
gribble: 3922587.62011
bitesak: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 237.95174, Best ask: 238.99994, Bid-ask spread: 1.04820, Last trade: 238.99995, 24 hour volume: 22664.17039360, 24 hour low: 222.00000, 24 hour high: 242.00000, 24 hour vwap: 233.76319
b0n1: so the vulnerability paper published on arxiv nearly had any impact on the price it seems
b0n1: although its not a real threat buti had expected at least some panicking
pankkake: especially since the media is very happy to blow it out of proportion
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00624807 = 0.1624 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4335 @ 0.00081086 = 3.5151 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1756 @ 0.00108655 = 1.908 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 15 @ 0.12268 = 1.8402 BTC [+] {2}
KRS1: fontase
ThickAsThieves: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pwwks/wsj_bitcoin_firm_files_for_bankruptcy_alydian_inc/
ozbot: WSJ: Bitcoin Firm Files for Bankruptcy (Alydian Inc., a unit of CoinLab Inc.) : Bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: thats Vessenes mining co
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 508 @ 0.0025 = 1.27 BTC [+]
bitesak: http://alydian.co/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00081461 = 7.9017 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2501 @ 0.00081081 = 2.0278 BTC [-]
jurov: "We’ve combined proven leadership, visionary strategy and great technologists. It’s going to be a great ride!”
jurov: should totally adopt the alydian motto
pankkake: enterprise-scale mining! turnkey mining systems in… August!
pankkake: perhaps turkey mining systems
Apocalyptic: heh jurov
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.33915687 = 5.4265 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3461 @ 0.0008088 = 2.7993 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3484891#msg3484891
ozbot: [BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange [WINDING DOWN]
jurov: stuff some people invent...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
Lennix1: is there already a bitbet that ukyo will run with bfs and weex coins?
jurov: i deem that unlikely... more likely there will be trouble with Ukyo.Loan
truffles: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 245.39996, Best ask: 245.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20004, Last trade: 246.00000, 24 hour volume: 24894.40638794, 24 hour low: 226.00000, 24 hour high: 248.50000, 24 hour vwap: 236.32393
truffles: f!
Lennix1: isn't that the fun with a bet?
jurov: so place one, then
truffles: gambling is about the adrenaline rush though
jurov: or is hould? and what would be the deadline?
jurov: problem it could be rejected, it's hard to prove everyone got paid, only asset lists are public, not btc balances
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.72100001 = 8.652 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.71233999 = 9.2604 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.710026 = 7.1003 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.71000018 = 12.07 BTC [-] {4}
kakobrekla: jurov i doubt he is joking
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 147 @ 0.00108514 = 0.1595 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4999 @ 0.0002199 = 1.0993 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0062 = 0.124 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4589 @ 0.00080808 = 3.7083 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8161 @ 0.00081093 = 6.618 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: my morning poetry:
kakobrekla: Go ahead,
kakobrekla: shill for theymos,
kakobrekla: shill for garr,
kakobrekla: a bunch of scammers,
kakobrekla: is what you are.
kakobrekla: ~kako
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00591002 = 0.2955 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: is that your superhero theme song?
truffles: almost rhymed
ThickAsThieves: said just before bolting into the sky to seek bad CSS?
kakobrekla: it does ryhme
kakobrekla: somewhat
truffles: sure if child like rants are what ure into
kakobrekla: well yeah, else imma gonna have to have to explain it to you
truffles: i require explainations, go ahead
kakobrekla: i thought i t was childish enough for ya?
kakobrekla: anywho brb, coffee
jurov: or should it be ex-shareholders? rather not
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 54 @ 0.00591 = 0.3191 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: Deer holders by now.
truffles: coffee , u should try tea
kakobrekla: u should try coffee enema
truffles: sounds like a drug
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 49 @ 0.00591 = 0.2896 BTC [-]
truffles: drugs are bad umk
kakobrekla: apparently there are people on jewtube addicted to it
truffles: jew like the religion?
truffles: its real lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 300 @ 0.00108515 = 0.3255 BTC [+]
truffles: lou reed i feel bad for that guy, going out with table..
bitesak: ThickAsThieves: did you have a google doc up with a view of btc holdings you hold or am I mistaken?
truffles: urbandictionary is not kind to jewtube..
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0059099 = 0.2955 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: bitesak, I have not, with the exchanges closing it complicated things a fair amount.
ThickAsThieves: our public btc address does show we hold more coins there than we owe for XBOND though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1497 BTC [+]
jurov: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140608.msg3488512#msg3488512 iDiffs public disservice announcement
ozbot: [BitFunder] Mining difficulty futures now available: CoinBr.iDiff-*
bitesak: thanks, was curious. I see that coinlenders.com is not operational either. Seems I have missed a few developments
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.0059099 = 0.1418 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 122 @ 0.0059098 = 0.721 BTC [-] {2}
firedrops: kakobrekla, when does your bitcoin poetry book come out?
truffles: so many buyers already
jurov: it just came out.. to be beholden forever in #assets log
firedrops: poor revenue model..
bitesak: but huge value
firedrops: infinite value
jurov: precious like a bitcoin gem
bitesak: it it might end up on the most awesome bitcoin startup list, there most definetly is room now: http://bitcoinexaminer.org/14-awesome-bitcoin-startups/
jurov: read tfa... the criteria is not just to be awesome, but also amazing. and that kako is not.
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
jurov: lmao laydian listed
truffles: its amazing isnt it
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
jurov: and BFL!
jurov: and Tradehill!!
truffles: <firedrops> infinite value >>> u must be the ppl who tell mp that he's great writer
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 377 @ 0.002719 = 1.0251 BTC [+]
bitesak: kakos poetry has a revenue model more resilient than most on that list
firedrops: it's a cringeworthy list.
firedrops: skinnyjav is over in #linux trying to get them to hand-hold him through putting ISO on usb.... very sad.
firedrops: refuses to google it
firedrops: poor guy
truffles: valiant effort for the non native english speakers though
bitesak: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 245.00002, Best ask: 245.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39998, Last trade: 245.00000, 24 hour volume: 25250.86051138, 24 hour low: 226.50001, 24 hour high: 248.59999, 24 hour vwap: 236.76818
firedrops: oh tits
truffles: lol tits?
firedrops: tits, as an expression of joy.
truffles: like tits up?
firedrops: don't think too hard about tits, they're not for thinking.
truffles: its just an odd exclaimation hehe
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.700001 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: oh wow poetry book
kakobrekla: i need to work on my material moar
truffles: make it amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
kakobrekla: thats not an easy undertaking
truffles: u have ur work cut out for u i can see
truffles: but its amazing what hard work can do
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
kakobrekla: i know rite
truffles: u could be the bieber of poetry
kakobrekla: the bieber means the most hated guy or what
truffles: he seems to get the girls
truffles: did u know some guy paid 100k to look like bieber
nubbins`: some guys pay money to have women stomp their nuts
nubbins`: doesn't mean it makes sense
truffles: lol
truffles: fetish is understandable though
nubbins`: guy has a bieber fetish
truffles: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/5763186/justin-bieber-fan-spends-100k-on-plastic-surgery-to-look-like-the
ozbot: Justin Bieber Fan Spends $100K on Plastic Surgery to Look Like the Singer | Billboard
truffles: he kinda looked like matt dameon before.. shame
truffles: "My friends shower me with compliments," he says. "They even call me Toby Bieber."
nubbins`: ahahahahahahaha
nubbins`: s/compliments/piss
kakobrekla: the guy in the after photo looks like he lacked oxygen at birth
truffles: im almost always honest when asked for my opinion
truffles: id be a great friend kako
kakobrekla: uh ?
truffles: with the poetry
kakobrekla: im not looking for opinions
truffles: your loss
nubbins`: free verse is where it's at anyway
truffles: speak it in french would make it 100x better imo
truffles: mjr knows how to write well, he can give pointers
truffles: about what
nubbins`: you be the judge, it's free verse
truffles: ok
nubbins`: http://imgur.com/EZ0nN3a
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
truffles: i am the table
truffles: did not like
nubbins`: no accounting for taste
truffles: its not internet forum.. or chatroom should follow grammar rules at least
truffles: anyways gotta tend to some stuff be back later
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.0059099 = 0.2305 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.05889999 = 0.2945 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00109797 = 0.1098 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: .r
ozbot: Gox | Buy: $247.01 Sell: $247.30 Last: $247.01 High: $248.84 Low: $227.61
ozbot: Bitstamp | Buy: $243.76
ozbot: Coinbase | Buy: $251.10
ozbot: Weex | Buy: $66.00 Sell: $156.00 Last: $156.00
ThickAsThieves: running out of coins or something?
kakobrekla: lul at weex?
Ukyo: ?
Lennix1: why is it even listed?
firedrops: Coinbase is running, reports of delayed purchases.
firedrops: running out*
ThickAsThieves: cuz it's ozbot
firedrops: by several days
nubbins`: virtex only at 238!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 98 @ 0.0058999 = 0.5782 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 445 @ 0.00590954 = 2.6297 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.0026 = 0.2132 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 218 @ 0.0026 = 0.5668 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: running out of coins or something? << yeah, teh alleged foundation is running out of suckers to donate.
mircea_popescu: consequently, teh alleged entrepreneurs are running out of juice.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves:
mircea_popescu: thats Vessenes mining co << http://trilema.com/2013/recapitulatio/ we are keenly aware >D
mircea_popescu: pankkake yet apparently nobody asked "the media" anything.
nubbins`: what's a more official-sounding word than foundation?
ThickAsThieves: society?
ThickAsThieves: & Sons
gribble: Error: "Sons" is not a valid command.
ThickAsThieves: hehe
nubbins`: The Bitcoin Authority
nubbins`: get a fancy logo and some talking heads,
mircea_popescu: The Official National Bitcoin Authority.
mircea_popescu: or agency. agency is also good.
ThickAsThieves: The BRO
ThickAsThieves: Bitcoin Regulation Organization
nubbins`: ooh, i like that
nubbins`: y'know, this could be pulled off quite easily
firedrops: lol, nice ending mircea_popescu
ThickAsThieves: well yeah look at the existing one
mircea_popescu: the bro, wow!
nubbins`: tat, right?!
mircea_popescu: i tell you, it's the mansiere
mircea_popescu: firedrops why ty.
nubbins`: the IBA
nubbins`: international bitcoin authority!
nubbins`: and just issue press releases taking digs at the foundation and its policies
nubbins`: or w/e they have
mircea_popescu: nono
mircea_popescu: issue press releases harping about how you're working to implement coincare
mircea_popescu: and green coins.
mircea_popescu: and fight coin warming.
mircea_popescu: i mean, coinchange.
ThickAsThieves: make sure every human has a bitcoin wallet
ThickAsThieves: it's a human right
firedrops: this is too good *NOT* to do. IBA.... Can I be the treasurer?
firedrops: :P
firedrops: I need a new office.
mircea_popescu: only if you promise to never publish the financial statements
firedrops: what's a 'financial statement' ?
mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, the vehehehes poser STILL hasn't done
nubbins`: as you can see, the bar would be set pretty low
mircea_popescu: he's the chair and treasurer of an organisation taking donations from the public which still, to this day, has not published its statements. years later.
mircea_popescu: if this is what american know-how and business experience looks like i'd rather work with nigerians.
nubbins`: first act of IBA would be to condemn these wanton actions
KRS-1: ruh roh
nubbins`: second would be to publish its own statements
mircea_popescu: and make sure nothing adds up
imsaguy: [\\\] for president.
mircea_popescu: and there are like... random letters in the middle of numbers
abracadabra: pfff
abracadabra: you can't vote for yourself!
mircea_popescu: it's not himself, it's his other self. this is sam.
firedrops: I promise to execute of my duties of non-disclosure and general misdirection with gusto.
firedrops: I also promise to use stored funds only to promote bitcoin where those areas also overlaps my personal needs.
firedrops: so, I'm hired, right?
mircea_popescu: sure, go ahead. make your own irc chan too
mircea_popescu: #bitcoin-gemdation
imsaguy: #bitcoin-[\\\]
imsaguy: I didn't vote for myself
imsaguy: that was a nomination
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.35 = 1.75 BTC [+]
Ukyo: I vote for imsaguy. *back to work*
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00634216 = 0.6659 BTC [+] {6}
kakobrekla: anyway whats with the weex ticker
kakobrekla: is that hing even operational still
firedrops: .r
ozbot: Gox | Buy: $246.00 Sell: $246.00 Last: $246.00 High: $250.00 Low: $227.61
ozbot: Bitstamp | Buy: $243.00
ozbot: Coinbase | Buy: $250.28
ozbot: Weex | Buy: $66.00 Sell: $156.00 Last: $156.00
firedrops: oops, weex has it's own now.. forgots.
mircea_popescu: maybe just not much volume
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.00639 = 0.1022 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 4000 @ 0.00109796 = 4.3918 BTC [-] {2}
truffles: <nubbins`> international bitcoin authority! >>> i like this one
truffles: though i thought bitcoin was supposed to be anonymous
nubbins`: why did you think that?
truffles: great effort was made for the purpose no?
truffles: at least it seemed so
truffles: no im not talking about the "group"
firedrops: anonymity has been and always will be a factor of how you interact with your wallet and online identities.
truffles: if some1 wants to find u though seems like they can
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12522 @ 0.00081164 = 10.1634 BTC [+]
jurov: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 268100 | Current Difficulty: 3.9092878763808584E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 268127 | Next Difficulty In: 27 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 hours, 44 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 511206266.867 | Estimated Percent Change: 30.76711
jurov: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/colombia/131101/sex-strike-crossed-leg-protest-road
jurov: dunno what happens when the bitches trry to pull this to mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: teh bitches love me too much.
firedrops: well, I doubt they much in terms of striking funds... they will get hungry... for cock.
firedrops: *have
mike_c: gee, i remember just 4 days ago having a conversation about whether we'd hit 230 this month..
mircea_popescu: you know, your average columbian streetwalker is much more fiscally conservative and economically minded than the us government.
mircea_popescu: they'll be fine.
imsaguy: mircea_popescu: #inbefore400
ThickAsThieves: .r
ozbot: Gox | Buy: $247.11 Sell: $247.79 Last: $247.11 High: $250.00 Low: $227.61
ozbot: Bitstamp | Buy: $243.36
ozbot: Coinbase | Buy: $251.39
ozbot: Weex | Buy: $66.00 Sell: $156.00 Last: $156.00
firedrops: Maybe columbian whores should run the IBA?
mircea_popescu: "Bonett began extolling the antiwar message of Lysistrata, Aristophanes’ historical play in which the title character convinces her female colleagues to refuse to have sex with their husbands until they ended the Pelopennesian War between Athens and Sparta."
mircea_popescu: this is such fucking ridiculous ignorance.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, greek men could hardly be paid to fuck women.
mircea_popescu: for the other, obviously aristophanes is a comedy writer, not a "historical play" writer.
firedrops: for reals, weren't there plenty of young boys to enjoy?
mircea_popescu: certainly in sparta, and certainly for the needs of their army.
mircea_popescu: to consider today somebody is seriously proposing that a bunch of despised housewives stopped the army of lovers from armying and loving through refusing to bother them anymore...
firedrops: it's fucking absurd.
mircea_popescu: the us schooling system.
mircea_popescu: it'd be better if they raped the children 8 hours a day.
mircea_popescu: at least that way somebody somewhere'd get something out of it.
firedrops: they would learn more.
firedrops: https://plus.google.com/+MikeHearn/posts/LW1DXJ2BK8k
lewicki: holy moly, buys on mtgox
zoinky: whoa
zoinky: 4k buy
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 255.00000, Best ask: 255.00001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 255.00001, 24 hour volume: 28152.16157390, 24 hour low: 228.11000, 24 hour high: 257.59493, 24 hour vwap: 242.03555
kakobrekla: when did the clock move
kleeck: .d
ozbot: 390928787.63809 | Next Diff in 23 blocks | Estimated Change: 30.6327% in 0d 2h 35m 1s
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.0064 = 0.4544 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.05350001 = 0.2675 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 600 @ 0.001097 = 0.6582 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3293 @ 0.00081483 = 2.6832 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 102 @ 0.05350001 = 5.457 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 195 @ 0.00603024 = 1.1759 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.006007 = 0.3604 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.001097 = 1.097 BTC [-]
jurov: ;;seens Scrat
gribble: Error: "seens" is not a valid command.
jurov: ;;seen Scrat
gribble: Scrat was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 21 hours, 7 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <Scrat> ;;ident
benkay: it's even better than i ever imagined
benkay: i can get ars delivered to my door for btc
Scrat: ;;seen jurov
gribble: jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 minutes and 52 seconds ago: <jurov> ;;seen Scrat
firedrops: you can get arse deliver to your door for btc?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00081533 = 9.3763 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: lovely! show booked, acts confirmed
nubbins`: next step: posters
ThickAsThieves: .r
ozbot: Gox | Buy: $255.00 Sell: $256.11 Last: $254.15 High: $258.88 Low: $229.00
ozbot: Bitstamp | Buy: $248.00
ozbot: Coinbase | Buy: $255.71
ozbot: Weex | Buy: $66.00 Sell: $156.00 Last: $156.00
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 150 @ 0.001097 = 0.1646 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: basically this .r thing spams four lines of shit that mostly doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: in this sense ticker is better
nubbins`: the fuck is weex
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14226 @ 0.00081674 = 11.6189 BTC [+] {3}
Duffer1: weexchange, ukyo's btc/fiat exchange thing
nubbins`: ah
nubbins`: funny, that's the reason why i never opened a bitfunder account
nubbins`: that's serendipity
Bugpowder: boom
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.0535 = 0.535 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: http://i.imgur.com/VuRy26d.jpg
kakobrekla: kinda funny
kakobrekla: since primecoins are one of the few which are not finite
Namworld: Wait... what?
kakobrekla: which part
Namworld: The "finite by design" primecoin
Namworld: Where the heck did you find that?
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=278470.0
ozbot: XPM PROOFS Batch 1 Sold out! Batch 2 estimated mid November - Reserve Now!
ThickAsThieves: TAT.VIRTUALMINE will be bought back and closed permanently: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223442.msg3491087#msg3491087
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla interesting.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.71111111 BTC [-]
nubbins`: LELELELELELEL @ toronto mayor rob ford
ThickAsThieves: that the one who parties with crackheads?
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/mayor-rob-ford-yes-i-have-smoked-crack-cocaine-1.2415533
ozbot: Mayor Rob Ford: 'Yes I have smoked crack cocaine' - Toronto - CBC News
nubbins`: THAT SAME ONE
nubbins`: hahaha
mircea_popescu: gotta love the electoral process
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.73689999 = 1.4738 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00271489 = 0.543 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 300 @ 0.00109699 = 0.3291 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 134 @ 0.0010852 = 0.1454 BTC [-] {5}
nubbins`: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 255.00000, vol: 30938.96121544 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 248.48, vol: 33777.52262645 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 242, vol: 18572.65579 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 246.20, vol: 840.67752409 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 250.829282, vol: 51869.81300000 | Volume-weighted last average: 249.960234105
kakobrekla: >>Since they handled the transition from BTCT to BitFunder quite professionally, I don't see a problem moving to Havelock.
kakobrekla: hihi
mircea_popescu: which gem is this
kakobrekla: how about a guess
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2214 @ 0.00081338 = 1.8008 BTC [-]
pankkake: kenilworthnothing!
kakobrekla: yup
pankkake: .d
ozbot: 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 2015 blocks | Estimated Change: -99.9353% in 27d 23h 19m 51s
topace: ola
topace: and then there was two
topace: which exchange has a securities license and has been approved by regulators to operate a bitcoin denominated securities exchange?
topace: WHOOP
jurov: i heard mircea issued some licenses
jurov: he is prolific regulator
mircea_popescu: lol
jcpham: i got a withdrawal notification from btct.co last night
jcpham: for the dust left in my account i couldn't withdraw
jurov: jcpham see this joke: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3484891#msg3484891
jcpham: sorry i can't load bitcointalk.org
jcpham: that bgp doesn't route for me
jurov: burnside: "TBH I've never used sendmany before and this didn't seem like a good time to be experimenting. I've been meaning to play with it for some time, maybe I can use it in my next project."
kakobrekla: lul
jcpham: huuuuu
jcpham: r
jurov: he then goes on to reference nefario
kakobrekla: :D
kakobrekla: bashable.
jurov: oh my, even his sig is bashable
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00080972 = 8.6235 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: so wait. this is the guy that supposedly stole my lunch or something ?
mircea_popescu: "never had cause to use sendmany yet we've consistently had more custom than mpex in our six months of existence" ?
pankkake: well he was supporting the miners!
pankkake: also running an old bitcoind with higher fees
mircea_popescu: a ok.
nubbins`: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 241.00000, vol: 35774.79792554 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 233.51, vol: 38175.11393156 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 236, vol: 20674.08336 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 234.98, vol: 880.71355611 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 245.5222, vol: 52914.01100000 | Volume-weighted last average: 239.953527052
jurov: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 199.898744 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.400594844798 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
jurov: oooooh
nubbins`: fun
kakobrekla: wb lag
mircea_popescu: lol
firedrops: ah, goxxing is back. excellent.
mike_c: hm, mpex market maker bot is dead, website is slow. somebody knocked over the hamster wheel..
benkay: ;;gettrust firedrops
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user firedrops: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=firedrops | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=firedrops | Rated since: never
mike_c: $vwap s.mpoe
mpexbot: mike_c: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00081676 high: 0.000823 low: 0.00080792 volume: 199372 btc: 162.83883071 7 day: average: 0.00082223 high: 0.00084784 low: 0.00080585 volume: 988990 btc: 813.17454821 30 day: average: 0.00083277 high: 0.00085779 low: 0.00080585 volume: 2391578 btc: 1991.62506948
benkay: firedrops: ars is shorthand for a particular shitty south american currency
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15998 @ 0.00081223 = 12.9941 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: mike_c probably mpoe bot can't acquire price signals owing to the exceedingly shitty infrastructure still plaguing this bitcoin to fiat exchange thing.
mike_c: hehe. gox lag is only, what, 10 minutes?
mike_c: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.203516 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000407843785321 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
mike_c: nvm, they fixed it
mircea_popescu: http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/books/hmh-ems/Early1950sPublicityPhotoLG.jpg
mircea_popescu: when the fuck did liz taylor become latina ?
mircea_popescu: woman was porcelain white, what the fuck is wrong with this world.
mircea_popescu: we're going to end up with jesus being mideastern again at this rate.
nubbins`: lel
benkay: sun'll do that to a body
mircea_popescu: except she spent about as much in the sun as coinbase on wallstreet.
mircea_popescu: half hour over twenty years.
benkay: in other news, passwords are too hard for ios users to handle
jurov: ;;bc,24hprc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.73689999 BTC [+]
benkay: http://www.knocktounlock.com/
ozbot: Faster and safer than typing a password. Just Knock. For iPhone + Mac.
gribble: 238.32
mircea_popescu: how would that be safer
benkay: i am asking at least two other people this
mircea_popescu: there need to be some punishments included in marketing.
mircea_popescu: as it stands right now every idiot is drawn to that field because you can literally do anything with no repercussion.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8384 @ 0.00080792 = 6.7736 BTC [-]
benkay: i'm particularly impressed by the part where i'm supposed to install software that unlocks my computer without prompting for a password
mircea_popescu: does it also spread over the faint sound of rustling in cheap speakers ?
benkay: it installs when you look at a chemtrail
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.0063891 = 0.2747 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: incidentally, if badbios howls in a forest but there's no tree to hear it, will it have infected it ?
benkay: the timecube resists all infarctions
mircea_popescu: timecube for usb!
benkay: timecube fpga buttcorn minors
kleeck: I have created software that runs a process in the background of my OS, creating a low frequency message of "Fuck you!" to all other low frequency speakins machines. It ensures those nasty things stay away. So far so good.
pizzaman1337: mpex.co down?
benkay: looks like it pizzaman1337
mircea_popescu: not again ?!
pizzaman1337: wait, just loaded
benkay: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/mpex.co
pizzaman1337: but it wasn't for a few mins
ozbot: Down For Everyone Or Just Me -> Check if your website is down or up?
mircea_popescu: its slow but it loads for me
jurov: from the US it loads much slower
mircea_popescu: must be some sort of routing issue i suspek
benkay: from argentina it loads pretty darn slow too
mircea_popescu: argentina is in the us.
nubbins`: heh
benkay: wat
mircea_popescu: think about the top level routing table.
benkay: ok ok
mircea_popescu: it's not like it has cable laid undersea to tokyo
benkay: hey man i've been sunning myself and guzzling champagne all day
benkay: backbone map is not top of the noggin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.0063891 = 0.2556 BTC [-]
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/smg-october-2013-statement/#comment-95924
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 17102 @ 0.00197356 = 33.7518 BTC [-] {34}
mircea_popescu: nubbins` indeed. revised.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00269999 = 0.135 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7369 = 1.4738 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 55.165583 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.110551210667 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.00604753 = 0.4233 BTC [-] {2}
FabianB_: "www.bitstamp.net requires an additional security check"
FabianB_: is that just for me or do they have probs in general?
kakobrekla: if by probs you mean fucked in the head, yes, you are correct
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,diff
gribble: Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: .d
ozbot: 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 1997 blocks | Estimated Change: 19.1845% in 11d 4h 52m 2s
mircea_popescu: cute, still going up
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 717934891.3 based on data since last change | 521617225.922 based on data for last three days
mircea_popescu: 700 x.x
mircea_popescu: at this rate what do i do, write a post about "ppl stop mining" ?
ThickAsThieves: but mining is fiat-profitable!
nubbins`: heh
mircea_popescu: at 700 ?
ThickAsThieves: it wont hit 700
mircea_popescu: no it's not. we're actually developing a problem, in that even new amateur asics aren't making enough to justify it
ThickAsThieves: thats just cuz it just changed
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves baby it was 70 not so long ago.
nubbins`: eventually all these miners are gonna stop accepting tx's with low fees
ThickAsThieves: oh i just mean it wont be 700 this next diff change
ThickAsThieves: it will this year
mircea_popescu: bitbet says it beats 1bn by xmas
jborkl: http://tinypic.com/r/23h40le/5
ozbot: Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting
jborkl: my creation
ThickAsThieves: yep
ThickAsThieves: i bet on yes
mircea_popescu: jborkl what's it do ?
kakobrekla: jborkl knc?
nubbins`: jborkl: what's that a picture of?
nubbins`: heh, ?x3
ThickAsThieves: quantum bong
jborkl: my chili, self contained water cooled
nubbins`: tat, you're neither high nor sober until someone observes you
jborkl: the size of a old fpga single
mircea_popescu: im behind the times. what's a chili ?
kakobrekla: nubbins` before mp observes you, fixed it for ya
nubbins`: i'm not sure mp factors into quantum physics
nubbins`: but what do i know
nubbins`: it's all an elaborate tapestry, etc
kakobrekla: isnt being drunk an artform?
nubbins`: in my experience, yes
kakobrekla: well then.
nubbins`: relevant video, one sec
mircea_popescu: depends how well you do at it
jborkl: it is a custom design off of BFL chips- mrteal made it and I have a bunch- now small form factor water cooled
mircea_popescu: jborkl oh i see.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you threw me for a loop cause afaik knc still vaporwares.
kakobrekla: would be more interesting with knc chip jborkl.
kakobrekla: hm
kakobrekla: who shipped those 500gh boxes then
jborkl: well, I have that- so I just take stuff and make them different
jborkl: now it is small and silent
jborkl: and runs at 66c
nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH2dF_0rNyQ
ozbot: Ol' Dirty Bastard Yo MTV Drunken Freestyle - YouTube
nubbins`: ^^^
nubbins`: if i was that drunk, i'd likely be dead
nubbins`: wait, knc vaporware?
kakobrekla: afaik no
kakobrekla: dunno what mp is on
nubbins`: i was gonna say, i wasted money on a 'group buy' for one and have been collecting change for a few weeks now
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/472/kncminer-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-october-1st/
mircea_popescu: ahem.
mircea_popescu: did they deliver since ?
ozbot: BitBet - KnCMiner will deliver ASIC devices before October 1st
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu couple of days after
nubbins`: yeah
mircea_popescu: but that was just to like, select people no ?
kakobrekla: they shipped that day some of the first units iirc
mircea_popescu: or did they actually deliver tyheir whole batch ?
kakobrekla: whole afaik, in a week or two
mircea_popescu: ah
mircea_popescu: i guess stale cache in my head
nubbins`: better clear it all
kakobrekla: theres no other explanation for diff rise
kakobrekla: than knc.
mircea_popescu: o, there is.
kakobrekla: you gonna link me to the gov shit ?
mircea_popescu: i ain't linking no one! im for freedom
mircea_popescu: down with the links of slavery!
kakobrekla: hehe mk
nubbins`: links are really just a way for the patriarchy to something or other
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 130 @ 0.0023 = 0.299 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: https://www.google.com/search?q=kncminer+asic&complete=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch
mircea_popescu: you know for the record the only pic is from like... coindesk
mircea_popescu: which afaik got bfl delivered too, back in like march.
ThickAsThieves: dont forvget the exploded ones
mircea_popescu: anyone got pix or anything ? anyone here actually had personally received knc miners ?
kakobrekla: yes my friend did
ThickAsThieves: there are pics of people selling theirs in forums too
kakobrekla: a week or so ago
kakobrekla: but he was not the first to order
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla did he get a lot or just like one to test ?
kakobrekla: 2 iirc
kakobrekla: some random unboxing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qip6qDbToG0
mircea_popescu: aite
nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=225851.msg3493168#msg3493168
ozbot: [CLOSED] 1 KNC Jupiter Miner Preorder 1-500 + hosting (0/70 shares @1BTC)
pankkake: and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244042.0
nubbins`: huh
nubbins`: now, i don't think they'll ever break even
ThickAsThieves: l2google https://www.google.com/search?q=kncminer+asic&complete=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch#complete=0&q=kncminer+picture&tbm=isch
nubbins`: but they seem to exist, at least
mircea_popescu: https://www.kncminer.com/userfiles/image/case3small.png
mircea_popescu: cute
kakobrekla: at least the pic is lacking the joshes stupid face
nubbins`: PCBs are silkscreened, although i doubt it's ever done by hand
mircea_popescu: pankkake that thread is such crap. there's a ton of huge pix from early on before oct.
mircea_popescu: then there.s a bunch of crap text at the end.
ThickAsThieves: TAT.VIRTUALMINE is officially closed, bought back, and delisted from Bitfunder.com
mircea_popescu: then there's the meat post, only one : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244042.msg3290455#msg3290455
mircea_popescu: it includes a 5k px wide screencap
mircea_popescu: and some 300px wide boxes of vagueness.
mircea_popescu: am i being unreasonable here ?! who the fuck makes 300px pics of the entire substance of their thing.
nubbins`: nevermind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-WGaAmpfOU
mircea_popescu: o nm, turns out if you remove the 300x128 from http://p2pool.nl/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/IMG_00000013-300x168.jpg
mircea_popescu: it actually shows you the whole thing
ThickAsThieves: wtf pic http://b.vimeocdn.com/ts/449/505/449505510_640.jpg
ThickAsThieves: oh its a racecar
ThickAsThieves: ok
mircea_popescu: http://grouped.com/il/18024339111203102_20131001070857248
mircea_popescu: finally.
nubbins`: man. the guy printing those PCBs has a FILTHY workspace
mircea_popescu: he does ?
nubbins`: 07:40
nubbins`: total dirtbag
nubbins`: oh, i forgot you can link to exact times
nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8-WGaAmpfOU#t=483
ozbot: Home made PCB by the method of screen printing - YouTube
ThickAsThieves: looks like a horror scene
nubbins`: right?
nubbins`: "let's not even bother trying to clean this dump before filming it"
nubbins`: anyway, interesting, but too many caustic chemicals involved for me
mircea_popescu: kinda looks like a repurposed meth lavb
nubbins`: repurposed abattoir
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0060436 = 0.1209 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.0536 = 0.268 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 108 @ 0.00109 = 0.1177 BTC [-]
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: thoughts on xbond?
mircea_popescu: what do you mean specifically ?
jcpham: does it have anything at all to do with mining
jcpham: nerp
mircea_popescu: it's tat's fixed thing
mircea_popescu: something like 20% apr iirc.
mike_c: 10 i believe.
ThickAsThieves: 18.25%
nubbins`: nothing specific, just wondering if you had any general thoughts on it
ThickAsThieves: arent there rules about questions like that ;)
jcpham: burn the witch if she sinks she wasnt a witch
mircea_popescu: well it's one of the most transparent deals possible. you get x% a day. if you trust the owner to pay up, you buy it. if you don't, you don't. can't get simpler than that.
jcpham: i see a black box that yields %.05/day using majick
jcpham: but i guess it's real majick
pigeons: i'm borrowing at 0.05/day against my upcoming possible rota payment ;0
jcpham: whoa
jcpham: risk takers everywhere
mircea_popescu: i guess this'll now spawn a new exchange that'll in due time bury mpex in 3 months
pigeons: bah, didnt you get the message, trading through forum messages is much better than gpg signed exchanges
mircea_popescu: well, considering people still use email for the purpose...
jcpham: yeah way more trusty to use forum pm
jcpham: real business
pigeons: never get directly from the issuer either, always go through several intermediaries. its like wearing 5 condoms
mircea_popescu: all our love of small government and deregulation would look a lot different if any of us actually had the experience of how workshops looked in the 1800s
mircea_popescu: you think that abattoir/meth lab looks dirty ?
mircea_popescu: shoulda seen chicago's meatpacking business.
nubbins`: i actually read an article about that a while ago
nubbins`: the details escape me
mircea_popescu: Union Stockyards' famous lake of fat and all that,
BigBitz: So hold on...
BigBitz: BitFunder is closing now?
nubbins`: heh
jcpham: stop the presses
nubbins`: i can't, i have deadlines
pigeons: mybitcoin is down too
jcpham: my bitcoinica account is empty!
pigeons: i can't get to satoshi dice webpage from usa
pigeons: mtgox no longer trades magic cards
dexX7: use a proxy
dexX7: or the addresses direct
ThickAsThieves: i will charge a fee to convert your magic cards to online versions
nubbins`: bitcoin trading cards
dexX7: altcoin trading cards
nubbins`: you could have rare "scammer" cards
jcpham: i want the bitcoin jesus limited foil
nubbins`: well. maybe not rare
jcpham: the one where he does the gox interview
jcpham: at gunpoint
jcpham: ok allegedly
benkay: i've been thinking about an entirely premined altcoin for trading cards
jcpham: nice
nubbins`: heh
benkay: but then i realized there was no need to diddle with cryptocurrencies for that.
benkay: but it's a somehwat complicated problem. one wants to be able to make more cards as a game operators
benkay: operator
benkay: and it would be neat if cards had a battle history
benkay: leveled up etc
benkay: maybe get destroyed on occasion
mod6: [ if someone sent me a PM from here, I don't know who it was. I had to kill my irssi session, sorry, plz resend. Thx. ]
nubbins`: i think you're just describing a regular card game
benkay: give the man a prize
benkay: how can i guarantee that the human against whom i'm playing on the internet actually has the Great Sword of +5 Game Winning though with the current playing stack, eh?
benkay: aside from trusting wizards of the coast