mircea_popescu: jurov "an unit" sorta has this "an hero" flavour to it. maybe it becomes a meme

mircea_popescu: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.security.cryptography.randombit/4689

mircea_popescu: re the entire linux rng discussion

mircea_popescu: benkay this trend to make the browser central to computing is retarded.

mircea_popescu: there's no need for phones that are "entertainment centers" nor for browsers that are abstractions of the os.

mircea_popescu: pankkake lol did kleeck ignore you after that ?

mircea_popescu: ;;nethash

mircea_popescu: only 3x what they predicted lolz.

mircea_popescu: "Why should the owners of two different exchanges spend their time and money to develop a protocol for transferring shares? How would it benefit either of them?"

mircea_popescu: LorenzoMoney you're a retard aren't you.

mircea_popescu: i need to stop following these links. i have people insulating me from the idiocy for a reason.

mircea_popescu: also in case anyone's missed it, trilema coments are like the shit these days : http://trilema.com/2013/anonimity-not-for-the-poor/#comment-94888

mircea_popescu: apparently linus t was complicit in weakening linux rng implementation.

mircea_popescu: pankkake you know one of the bright minds that made asics or wanted to make asics but didn't get to it in time should make a stick like that.

mircea_popescu: "The Entropy Key contains two high-quality noise generators, and an ARM Cortex CPU that actively measures, checks and confirms all generated random numbers"

mircea_popescu: honestly i doubt these know wtf they're talking about.

mircea_popescu: "two" ? which two ? what do they do ?

mircea_popescu: how's an arm chip "check" random numbers ?

mircea_popescu: why not ?

mircea_popescu: avalanche noise

mircea_popescu: The streams are also exclusive-ORed together and that stream's entropy is estimated in the same manner. If the raw streams appear to have severely reduced entropy then it indicates a fault in that generator, if the third stream has low entropy then it indicates that the generators have correlated and are not independently gathering entropy.

mircea_popescu: that's a good test at least.

mircea_popescu: "Shortly before the first release, I read an article about the ongoing

mircea_popescu: Bitkeeper debacle that described Larry McVoy as mercurial (in the sense

mircea_popescu: of 'fickle'). Given the multiple meanings, the convenient abbreviation,

mircea_popescu: and the good fit with my pre-existing naming scheme (see my email

mircea_popescu: address), it clicked instantly. Mercurial is thus named in Larry's

mircea_popescu: honor. I do not know if the same is true of Git."

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/521/labcoins-own-130nm-design-sample-chips-will-be/

mircea_popescu: fractal he who steps into deciding contentious matters without recourse for the parties is going to make a lot of enemies of your sort.

mircea_popescu: this was well known aforehand, excuse me if i fail to be impressed a year later.

mircea_popescu: yeah ? how would you have phrased that ?

mircea_popescu: fractal what if the list is 50`000 names long ?

mircea_popescu: the timestamp is the date the bet was made.

mircea_popescu: this was established already on the bfl contentions.

mircea_popescu: and yes it's not hard to link to a pastebin but it's hard to have it read.

mircea_popescu: i'd rather have vague short text everyone can be expected to read than long text everyone can be expected not to read.

mircea_popescu: Duffer1 exactly.

mircea_popescu: fractal they advertised two types, overshot performance on one, undershot on the other and made up for the difference sending more gear.

mircea_popescu: i get that in a strong nominalist view you want this as a no,

mircea_popescu: but you'll have to understand that bitbet is used by many people for many purposes and technical arguments may or may not carry.

mircea_popescu: ideally your position is substantially supported. if it's technically suported you're at risk.

mircea_popescu: this is true now and it'll stay true as best as i can determine until we move on to writing c++ instead of english

mircea_popescu: well if that's what you think i really can't wait for your competitor.

mircea_popescu: i'd bet there a lot, seeing how i probably have a lot more shitslinging capacity than you can dream of.

mircea_popescu: well no, as a fiction it wouldn't. once it's live i'm curious how that works.

mircea_popescu: and im not being facetious either. i'm actually curious. maybe i learn something.

mircea_popescu: this sounds great in theory.

mircea_popescu: im not gonna.

mircea_popescu: (and if i was gonna i'd have registered it in january not september.)

mircea_popescu: lmao why not. because i believe in free speech. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: just go get laid.

mircea_popescu: im dried out. celebrated 100mn yesterday.

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2013#290235 ☝︎

mircea_popescu: it takes more to make a block than all the math done in the entire history of humanity up until 1900 or so.

mircea_popescu: da fuck is going on here anyway.

mircea_popescu: who is this guy anyway.

mircea_popescu: aka some chick named janet ?

mircea_popescu: ><

mircea_popescu: im not the judge. the closest approximation would be i am the minister of justice.

mircea_popescu: i might intervene in cases where judges are drunk

mircea_popescu: i won't intervene in cases where one party is pissed off with the judge's ruling.

mircea_popescu: nubbins` what of the sentence "you must bring a cup of coffee"

mircea_popescu: suppose the cup is half full.

mircea_popescu: has the absolute been satisfied ?

mircea_popescu: well but it's an absolute!

mircea_popescu: nubbins` that's the problem with absolutes.

mircea_popescu: deizel wasn't making an analogy for the bet, was simply verifying the properties of must.

mircea_popescu: it is still absolute, but that doesn't mean absolutely anything someone wants it to mean.

mircea_popescu: fractal need you a link to the earlier discussion of laptops ?

mircea_popescu: well i asked for nothing, myself.

mircea_popescu: im just sitting here and partaking in the lively debate of shit that actually matters.

mircea_popescu: this is the aborted rota part 2, basically.

mircea_popescu: nubbins` im sure at some point they were somehow packaged together. seems a weird way to go about it.

mircea_popescu: fractal dude get away. it's ridiculous, anduck is this kid.

mircea_popescu: nubbins` i have no idea, but i think it's a ridiculous criteria.

mircea_popescu: i wonder if the rabinical council of lvov ever saw such heartfelt contention !

mircea_popescu: fractal there'd have been a number of issues still, yes.

mircea_popescu: lol. nubbins` would you return a laptop because it comes with a power brick and you ordered ONE unit ?

mircea_popescu: ya well.

mircea_popescu: nubbins` yeah they did.

mircea_popescu: it was about 290w or something like that,

mircea_popescu: and as far as anyone kniows they'll get refurbished later to double performance or some shit

mircea_popescu: it wasn't packed right, basically.

mircea_popescu: which has some merits, but how far are you going to go.

mircea_popescu: eventually someone in samoa is going to say some miner is not according to obscure samoan law thus undelivered thus bet is a clear no.

mircea_popescu: and i'm looking at you jcpham

mircea_popescu: nubbins` how much is anduck paying you btw ?

mircea_popescu: nubbins` i hear there's a ~5btc budget.

mircea_popescu: it's in the scrollback.

mircea_popescu: if indeed that's the case you'd have been much better served by making a "The Bitfury strikes back 400gh/s unit will not exist as the 16 boards together will hash under 400gh/s"

mircea_popescu: this is imo the most important takeaway here : rather than hang your bet on some technicality, just make a new one in which your point of interest is substantially the bet.

mircea_popescu: nubbins` they're always and perpetually going to be poorly worded.

mircea_popescu: this because reality surprises, which is a good thing overall.

mircea_popescu: are you tall or s hort ?

mircea_popescu: pankkake basically someone knows how it will come out

mircea_popescu: you can't bet on shit lioke that.

mircea_popescu: pankkake well to me it reads like a variant of "I will publish the number 15 on my website by end of year".

mircea_popescu: why's this even a bet ?

mircea_popescu: pankkake i made the mistake of querying the mod that did it. here you go : "because wtf is mtgox already! look they've been announcing ltc for like a year. it's a dying dog saying it's going to start eating rabbits, i'm not taking bets on whether it actually does. besides, they're a known group of scammers and liars, what's to keep them from fronting ltc trades? and then obviously even if they did manage to implement t

mircea_popescu: he thing, "you can only trade with an anal probe" well is it implemented or not?"

mircea_popescu: mostly to put things in perspective.

mircea_popescu: the amount of sheer psychotic paranoia on the part of bitbet mods is quite the thing to gaze upon

mircea_popescu: and yet...

mircea_popescu: nubbins` i think it's a good lesson really.

mircea_popescu: it's one thing for all the pro conment to be startying "asic miners"

mircea_popescu: it's another for every two bit kid with a modem to be doing the same.

mircea_popescu: at least this way they learn they have to take losses in the process.

mircea_popescu: nubbins` i can see collecting a few hundred btc for making a hardware wallet if you can convince you know wtf you're doing.

mircea_popescu: perhaps.

mircea_popescu: so find someone with the hardware know how to help you and ipo after.

mircea_popescu: this is where your own personal credentials get to play.

mircea_popescu: ikr?

mircea_popescu: but someone earlier was like they don't care about respek

mircea_popescu: well... it matters, at the very least because it resolves this catch 22 situation.

mircea_popescu: talk to a chinese vibrator manufacturer then

mircea_popescu: no.

mircea_popescu: nubbins` he was referencing some earlier discussion

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: spain or italy next ?

mircea_popescu: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-04/poland-to-take-over-bonds-from-pension-funds-in-system-revamp.html

mircea_popescu: there's a good example. the polish government just stole ~100bn dollars worth of private pensions

mircea_popescu: because people having their own private pensions makes it pretty impossible for the state flytrap to borrow as nobody credits them

mircea_popescu: the best part ? "While the funds won’t be allowed to buy government bonds, they’ll be able to buy more corporate debt and will be freed from having to comply with performance benchmarks, according to comments from the labor and finance ministers."

mircea_popescu: so basically... now that it's state run it may be bankrupt.

mircea_popescu: puts any sort of statal proceeding against the free world on the very uneasy footing of "we know you're thieves"

mircea_popescu: ;;

mircea_popescu: nope. it's a thing tho, like ebay.

mircea_popescu: perhaps with more scammers on.

mircea_popescu: in the immortal words of jeff goldblum in the fly, "i'm more like a supply chain manager"

mircea_popescu: "I farm bits and pieces out to the guys who are much more brilliant than I am. I say, "build me a laser", this. "Design me a molecular analyzer", that. They do, and I just stick 'em together. But, none of them know what the project really is. So..."

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: i never used anything but nvidia.

mircea_popescu: since about 1998 or so

mircea_popescu: pankkake i wonder if it was typeset with latex

mircea_popescu: just so lol

mircea_popescu: and for our daily plato read,

mircea_popescu: the earth, as being their mother, delivered them, and now, as if their land were their mother and their nurse, they ought to take thought for her and defend her against any attack, and regard the other citizens as their brothers and children of the self-same earth. . . While all of you, in the city, are brothers, we will say in our tale, yet god, in fashioning those of you who are fitted to hold rule, mingled gold in t

mircea_popescu: heir generation, for which reason they are the most precious — but in the helpers, silver, and iron and brass in the farmers and other craftsmen. And, as you are all akin, though for the most part you will breed after your kinds, it may sometimes happen that a golden father would beget a silver son, and that a golden offspring would come from a silver sire, and that the rest would, in like manner, be born of one anot

mircea_popescu: her. So that the first and chief injunction that the god lays upon the rulers is that of nothing else are they to be such careful guardians, and so intently observant as of the intermixture of these metals in the souls of their offspring, and if sons are born to them with an infusion of brass or iron they shall by no means give way to pity in their treatment of them, but shall assign to each the status due to his natur

mircea_popescu: e and thrust them out among the artisans or the farmers. And again, if from these there is born a son with unexpected gold or silver in his composition they shall honor such and bid them go up higher, some to the office of guardian, some to the assistanceship, alleging that there is an oracle that the city shall then be overthrown when the man of iron or brass is its guardian.

mircea_popescu: lol ya. "hey pal, you're fucken dense"

mircea_popescu: is it me or has bitcointalk pretty much degenerated into five scammers talking to each other through > 100 sockpuppets ?

mircea_popescu: well that's an arbitrary determination, you can name them alpha, bravo, cunt, delta and echo

mircea_popescu: :p

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: ahaha

mircea_popescu: here's a tip you wannabe you : next time you want to sock, use a different https://www.projecthoneypot.org/ip_79.129.41.134

mircea_popescu: honeypotted ip than the one you normally log from.

mircea_popescu: Anduck basically it's some btc noob trying his "i can do anything" muscles.

mircea_popescu: Sep 07 02:12:05 <gribble>Nick 'fractal', with hostmask 'fractal!4f812986@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.129.41.134', is not identified.

mircea_popescu: herp.

mircea_popescu: Anduck because he's a junior in psychology and that's what the book of reversal says

mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr he doesn't know that cause webirc doesn't show em iirc

mircea_popescu: wogwog you srsly don't need to worry, nobody respects noagendamarket/etc either.

mircea_popescu: pankkake anyone actually paid you yet ?

mircea_popescu: you suck!

mircea_popescu: all the other trolls out there are making five figures out of dorking it out on the webs all day

mircea_popescu: /sarcasm

mircea_popescu: pankkake supposedly making money spamming is also a fact. tenouous as it may sound.

mircea_popescu: nevertheless most spammers do it for something between free and nothing at all.

mircea_popescu: just sayin', the things that anyone can do aren't usually paid.

mircea_popescu: pankkake but he's too raged out to realise this.

mircea_popescu: why do you think people "invest" their own bitdust, and do their own plumbing ?

mircea_popescu: kinda how it goes. people start a game of mudbitcoin, it's fun cause it's so wtf. that last a while, then it wears off, then they lose interest.

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: we should make a bet on fractal's bet site as to whether bitcoin.oz using the same ip as wogwog and fractal makes it the same unit or not.

mircea_popescu: well that often doesn't pan out.

mircea_popescu: it's more likely for the subject to have misunderstood something than for the entire world to have.

mircea_popescu: i hope fractal makes the 0% site so i can make a bet about which bitbet bet will next take up all the fucking chan space on -assets.

mircea_popescu: twist: pankkake is a gurl.

mircea_popescu: well it's certainly becoming one these days, what with that american starlet.

mircea_popescu: but otherwise it's a thousand old male name.

mircea_popescu: +year

mircea_popescu: that actually is a girl.