assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070908 = 3.0639 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4256 = 1.2768 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: I've got O.USD.C143T up for sale on MPEX if anyone is interested, 0.11 ea
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00070923 = 6.5958 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00070956 = 1.4191 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.1089 = 0.4356 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01491 = 0.0746 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00070908 = 4.4672 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: what are ripples worth these days, someone is soliciting me to sell mine
error4733: sold the 40k giveaway @ 8K = 5btc haha best giveaway ever
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.544798 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.544799 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 23 @ 1.5448 = 35.5304 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 85 @ 0.01495 = 1.2708 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 879 @ 0.00070908 = 0.6233 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4609 @ 0.00070837 = 3.2649 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 212 @ 0.00070667 = 0.1498 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 11 @ 2.2301 = 24.5311 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.01495 = 0.2243 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0148 = 0.222 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 65 @ 0.01476 = 0.9594 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2994 = 0.5988 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.107 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17479 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4109 @ 0.00070667 = 2.9037 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11287 @ 0.00070666 = 7.9761 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01471 = 0.7355 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.01505 = 0.1656 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01505 = 0.1505 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01505 = 0.3763 BTC [+]
Tritonio_: has anyone used colored coins to sell equity or anything like that?
ezdiy: Tritonio_: its way too alpha to be used for srs biz
ezdiy: mps point are somewhat weak, if his trade ledger is not public, though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.23 BTC [-]
Tritonio_: As an answer to some of mircea_popescu problems in the article: You could still have centralized exchanges. The difference would be that you can take you assets anytime out of the exchange and move them to another one to trade them there. That solves the blockchain spamming, the delays, the easy of use issues.
benkay: the ecosystem around 'em ain't there yet
benkay: but they're a bril idea
ezdiy: Tritonio_: no point arguing that
benkay: it might be good for equity stakes to be less-than-instantly liquid
mircea_popescu: i dunno why people feel the overpowering need to recreate poor solutions for solved problems
benkay: but at that point just sign some papers
ezdiy: in that ricardian contracts are ok for centralized exchanges
ezdiy: decentralized is kinda way too new
benkay: we can try it in a decade or three
ezdiy: nah, implementations are already there
benkay: but honestly why bother?
mircea_popescu: how about a decade or three after citizen dentistry becomes the norm.
ezdiy: but verification it will scale, wont suddenly fall apart etc is not
benkay: you gotta gain the trust of people somehow to legitimate your biz-mod
mircea_popescu: finance is a matter of having the fucking people competent in finance.
benkay: exchanges are a good way to do that
benkay: it's be a neat thing for a bunch of nerds who own shares in an REIT to pass them around
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: people who are clueless about finance are called 'liquidity' though :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.107 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: this is for some reason a widely held mistaken belief. people who are clueless are called "idiot with a power tool"
benkay: colored coins might be a good way to keep exchanges honest when trading assets between the
benkay: and stock in these companies needs some sort of owner-controllable features
ezdiy: but once again, its huge gamechanger
benkay: i can't ask MP to send me my S.DICE shares, I don't think
ezdiy: because exchanges are no longer in power
ezdiy: only market indexes of individual colors are
benkay: will you send me my s.dice shares?
benkay: under my name, on mp's exchange
ezdiy: dont bother benkay :)
benkay: i was thinking a symbol representing them, cryptographically signed to me
benkay: totally sufficient proof to me that i own a stake in a publicly traded company.
benkay: jump through a million hoops
benkay: can have actual certificate
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 2.1299 = 6.3897 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 100 @ 0.0017 = 0.17 BTC [-]
ezdiy: you can bug the actual owner who have them on mpex, whoever that may be
ezdiy: and at certain point bug friedcat to change his db
ezdiy: again, if you confront mp with that, youre stupid and dont understand markets etc
benkay: what do I get when we're all satisfied that the shares are in my posession?
mircea_popescu: i completely fail to understand what you're after here
mircea_popescu: the problem is absolutely and completely solved and you're like... hitting yourself in the head with the solution.
benkay: what do you claim is the MPEx equivalent to the printed piece of bs i get from pepsi?
ThickAsThieves: he wants a share that is independent of mpex yet honored
ezdiy: benkay: the ricardian ledger is actual proof of ownership though
mircea_popescu: or, if you prefer, a signed push receipt to some designated acct.
mircea_popescu: this is in numerous ways better than the p2p ledger thing.
ezdiy: benkay: but the vendor lockin and hoops will be always there, not just on mpex
ezdiy: its same everywhere
mircea_popescu: look, if there's enough people like you you can actually make a special mpex account,
benkay: i don't want paper though, i want a cryptotoken I can send to someone else
benkay: what i want doesn't matter
ThickAsThieves: not to be a turd, but mpex has shown in the past that it does not provide actual receipts of purchase, only confirmations of purchase orders
ezdiy: ThickAsThieves: are other exchanges any bether?
ezdiy: ThickAsThieves: they just pt each other
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know, between (mpex, nasdaq) it's nasdaq that most recently rolled over trades.
ezdiy: i think mp is the only one bothering with actual signed proof of purchase, on bitfunder its like row in a database which is much worse
ezdiy: its true you dont directly the shares
benkay: market mechanics around p2p exchanges are going to be silly and decades away if ever extant
mircea_popescu: you don't "directly" own any sharesd in the entire history of equities
ThickAsThieves: i agree that the state of proof of ownership on other exchanges is certainly questionable
ezdiy: doing it different way would be too burdensome on issuers
jborkl_: you are going to give mp a stroke
ezdiy: which is why exchanges act as proxy
benkay: oh that's a cool claim, what do you mean by that mp?
jborkl_: you can do anything you want with the fucking receipt.it is your certificate
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: own, as in directly interact with issuers regarding equity ownership.
mircea_popescu: benkay specifically what it says on the box. a share is NOT real estate.
ezdiy: (sorry if my clarifications of my inaccurate statements are driving you crazy)
mircea_popescu: for that matter you don't have alodial title on your real estate, either, it's fee simple
Tritonio_: I can't find anything about it on bitcointalk.
benkay: it's run by the bitcoinx guys
ThickAsThieves: I forget, does SDICE stock give you a piece of teh company or just profits?
benkay: gonna give you a virus tho
ezdiy: its bitcoinx.com lol
ThickAsThieves: as in, if Erik sold the company, is the money split out to all shareholders?
ThickAsThieves: i do think mp runs the most secure and verifiable exchange
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.01471 = 0.1177 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 34 @ 0.0147 = 0.4998 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 74 @ 0.01465002 = 1.0841 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 41 @ 0.01465001 = 0.6007 BTC [-]
ezdiy: Tritonio_: bitcoinx is super alpha stage, no fucking clue why are they so aggresively pushing it :(
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.01505 = 0.5569 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.519999 BTC [-]
benkay: how would I go about sending some shares to my kid, someday when accounts are ludicrously expensive?
Tritonio_: ezdiy, I"m trying to find the latest client that supports colored coins. I'll grab it from the forum instead just to be safe...
jborkl_: you can use mpex as a payment portal to other members. a instant exchange with PUSH. the possibilites are numerous
benkay: that is my option, innit?
mircea_popescu: benkay logically you would use some sort of notary or equivalent
ezdiy: where most of tech discussion takes place
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.490001 = 5.96 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ie, a trusted third party to make the transfer once you're dead.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 67 @ 1.49 = 99.83 BTC [-]
benkay: I just have this silly desire to disintermediate all of the things.
benkay: because efficient capital flows ;)
mircea_popescu: this is fundamentally a braindamaged notion, that disintermediation is always good.
ezdiy: benkay: give up, mp is a control freak
ezdiy: every time noobs want to roar free out of his control hes close to passing out
mircea_popescu: and cooks. you COULD go in the kitchen and make your own pie.
benkay: people would lose shares and shit
mircea_popescu: i just scared myself thinking of this restaurant where a bunch of people cooked themselves
benkay: but that's your own kitchen, though
benkay: when you want pro grade service, go out
benkay: take the shares to an exchange
benkay: but shit learn to cook
ThickAsThieves: I actually helped with the branding for a such a kitchen
benkay: do some things for yourself
jborkl_: it would go broke also cause the cooks suck
ThickAsThieves: they gave up the cook for yourself part in the 1st week
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves clearly as the noobs got free out of the cook's control...
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00094 = 0.0019 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i have a different question, would/could mpex allow a PT on it?
mircea_popescu: in principle. tho the only time i tried it ended up poorly.
benkay: which exchange? which 'asset'?
mircea_popescu: benkay there was a pt to gigavps's bond thing last year.
mircea_popescu: the exchange imploded, the guy changed his contract, it died a horrible death.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.5 = 7.5 BTC [+]
ezdiy: well, generally its termed GLBSE hell
ezdiy: if you list every penny stock & pump ...
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it certainly wouldn't be for an exchange that doesn't offer signed proofs and doesn't use gpg contracts.
ezdiy: ThickAsThieves: you have to find the original investors
ezdiy: who back mp's pt, thats it
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i think the only sane way to actually have asicminer listed is for friedcat to come to his senses and sign an actual contract.
benkay: did he intend to list on mpex at one point?
jborkl_: that would boost the price of AM more than anything IMO
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.00070956 = 1.3127 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00071034 = 3.0694 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10082 @ 0.00071147 = 7.173 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2047 @ 0.00071231 = 1.4581 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: other than in order to reserve his ability to later pull a giga on everone ?
ThickAsThieves: he regularly exhibits that he prefers to control all transactions
jborkl_: but does he own bitfountain shares?
jborkl_: yes so he does still ownn AM in that case
ThickAsThieves: that would also give him IPO funds to start a separate BitFountain venture
mircea_popescu: jborkl_ iirc about 15% or so of glbse held shares were never allocated to anyone so they reverted.
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.146001 = 0.292 BTC [-]
jborkl_: 40k shares or 20k shares depending on which way it was issued
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.5 = 15 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: at any rate this vague situation of a 200 page forum thread anyone may edit can not end well.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00070878 = 1.5948 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2282 @ 0.00070666 = 1.6126 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070588 = 3.0501 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00070587 = 4.7999 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1997 @ 0.00070581 = 1.4095 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: moreover, he's getting a lot of pent up pressure what with all the cluieless "investors"
mircea_popescu: people have internet-sued kakobrekla and made asses of themselves in this chan even when stuff was clearly written out
mircea_popescu: in the end... no skin of my personal back so i guess we sit, relax and enjoy the view.
benkay: don't take too big of a loss before getting out, tat
ThickAsThieves: mostly this venture is arbitrage where I keep a piece forever
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.47102 BTC [-]
benkay: i wonder who buys the bitfury box?
backupgribble: Current Blocks: 235921 | Current Difficulty: 1.1187257461360792E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 237887 | Next Difficulty In: 1966 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 13 hours, 33 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 12813878.5684 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.53995
benkay: yeah, estimated price of 90kusd
backupgribble: Next difficulty estimate | 12813878.5684 based on data since last change | 12318260.5559 based on data for last three days
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.0151 = 0.302 BTC [+]
benkay: what is this picostocks?
ThickAsThieves: dunno, it's to retarded looking for me to take seriously
mircea_popescu: some extremelky scammy looking thing that nevertheless is still around
benkay: bitfury claims to be operating out of a washington data cetner
benkay: what is that bioinfo link in regards to?
ezdiy: same ssl certificate
ezdiy: mmmm, east european illicit rx pharma? :)
ezdiy: i'd invest in that in a jiffy
ezdiy: dividends paid in adderall
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.490004 BTC [+]
benkay: mircea_popescu do you have a link to the thread where your PR tore picostocks a new one?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 26 @ 0.01491 = 0.3877 BTC [+]
benkay: There is one more important innovation. All transactions and all user accounts are public. It is possible to monitor the action of "best" traders and review their market position.
benkay: I was looking for this link:
ThickAsThieves: why does verifying a message work in bitcoin-qt, but not on blockchain.info?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 307 @ 0.01491 = 4.5774 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 7 @ 0.00318 = 0.0223 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.539995 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.01491 = 0.0447 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.539996 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.01495 = 0.0897 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.01491 = 0.1342 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2535 @ 0.00070621 = 1.7902 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1316 @ 0.00070581 = 0.9288 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: this pretty much. a challenger appears in asic market, plonks down ~15k usd on the theory he delivers.
mircea_popescu: or no, i think they did 500 btc when it was about 16 ?
ThickAsThieves: they also claim that they will honor the 1000btc donation to charity
KRS-1: thats embarrasing when you are mentioned as an exclusion on bitbet
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves claiming is nothing. this guy qactually sent the btc over, he's not getting it back unless he delivers.
MikeMark: @ThickAsThieves, on verifying, can't tell you exactly why, but after checking about 30 sigs I now request the sender verify the message themselves and tell me which client and version they used.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00070581 = 3.282 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.500019 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.500012 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.500007 = 3 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.5 = 3 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 1.5 = 45 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7537 @ 0.00070581 = 5.3197 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3863 @ 0.00070578 = 2.7264 BTC [-]
MikeMark: mircea_popescu, That's lucky. I had many, especially when verifying signed messages from blockchain.info wallet. I think they've been notified.
mircea_popescu: wait. you mean gpg verify or bitcoin addy sig verify ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.014701 = 1.4701 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0147001 = 1.47 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070752 = 3.0572 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5111 @ 0.00070776 = 3.6174 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.0149 = 0.4172 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.01495 = 0.299 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000695 = 0.0014 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 149 @ 0.01495 = 2.2276 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.01495 = 0.299 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.01497 = 0.1946 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.539978 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5801 @ 0.00070757 = 4.1046 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1599 @ 0.00070579 = 1.1286 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.500008 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.500007 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.169999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00304 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.500005 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.500004 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.5 = 7.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.49 = 14.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 61 @ 0.01497 = 0.9132 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 101 @ 0.01497 = 1.512 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.010098 = 0.101 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.537999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.538 = 7.69 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.539995 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.537998 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 1.53995 = 30.799 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.54 = 4.62 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.014975 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.539989 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.014975 = 0.1048 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.194959 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK:ASICM] 1D: 0.01465000 / 0.01477454 / 0.01494499 (3632 shares, 53.66111326 BTC), 7D: 0.01290000 / 0.01473886 / 0.02820000 (42993 shares, 633.66801842 BTC), 30D: 0.01290000 / 0.01473886 / 0.02820000 (42993 shares, 633.66801842 BTC)
KRS-1: is bitcoinity down for anyone else
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 67 @ 0.014975 = 1.0033 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 135 @ 0.00318 = 0.4293 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 200 @ 0.002817 = 0.5634 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 21 @ 0.002816 = 0.0591 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2500 @ 0.00278 = 6.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 218 @ 0.002778 = 0.6056 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 487 @ 0.002775 = 1.3514 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 284 @ 0.002765 = 0.7853 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 4 @ 0.002764 = 0.0111 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.0151 = 0.4228 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.539974 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.539975 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.539975 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.539975 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.194929 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19493 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.53998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.53998 = 7.6999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.010098 = 0.101 BTC [+]
gribble: DeaDTerra was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 3 days, 14 hours, 23 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <DeaDTerra> chaotic...
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.539999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.539999 = 3.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.0151 = 0.453 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 20 @ 0.0175 = 0.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 30 @ 0.017 = 0.51 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 30 @ 0.016 = 0.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0151 = 0.151 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.015 = 0.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.54 = 3.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2722 @ 0.00070579 = 1.9212 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2764 @ 0.00070578 = 1.9508 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.544998 = 7.725 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 1.544998 = 27.81 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.544999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.301851 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.30185 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.301842 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070663 = 3.0533 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1469 @ 0.00070695 = 1.0385 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070694 = 3.0547 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4129 @ 0.00070695 = 2.919 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.01509 = 0.6791 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.0151 = 0.2869 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.520009 = 3.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.520001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.510001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.51 = 7.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4052 @ 0.00070695 = 2.8646 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7594 @ 0.00070722 = 5.3706 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 56 @ 0.01491 = 0.835 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070621 = 3.0515 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6432 @ 0.00070618 = 4.5421 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1697 @ 0.00070578 = 1.1977 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00306958 = 1.6883 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 459 @ 0.00306302 = 1.4059 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3091 @ 0.00306301 = 9.4678 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 459 @ 0.00306301 = 1.4059 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00094 = 0.0019 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 12 @ 0.00079 = 0.0095 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00077 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2806 @ 0.00070722 = 1.9845 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070775 = 3.0582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3773 @ 0.00070776 = 2.6704 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 250 @ 0.000751 = 0.1878 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 450 @ 0.00075 = 0.3375 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1000 @ 0.000651 = 0.651 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00061 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.0006 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.0006 = 0.012 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2999 @ 0.000511 = 1.5325 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.539 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 60 @ 0.01491 = 0.8946 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4616 @ 0.00070776 = 3.267 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070899 = 3.0635 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 743 @ 0.000709 = 0.5268 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.539899 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5399 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.54 = 7.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.542 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.544997 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.544998 = 3.09 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0151 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 1.544999 = 33.99 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.0009 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01471 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.107 = 0.642 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00070575 = 2.3996 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.549397 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.23 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.106 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.549397 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0151 = 0.0302 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.015119 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 71 @ 0.01512 = 1.0735 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.549398 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.549398 = 7.747 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so basically if the russians actually deliver their 400th or w/e
mircea_popescu: a. i will have been right that the asic winner was not known all through
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 57 @ 0.01512 = 0.8618 BTC [+]
KRS-1: oh dear the Russians are coming
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5957 @ 0.000709 = 4.2235 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5843 @ 0.0007105 = 4.1515 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.01512 = 0.6048 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 78 @ 0.01521 = 1.1864 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.449999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.01521 = 0.1673 BTC [+]
KRS-1: you should try #bitcoin-anal instead
mjr_2: hey davout and kakobrekla
mjr_2: i thought i saw them all going down
mjr_2: also, i think we are at the start of a mini rally
mjr_2: i am going to show off this idea (project buttonwood) at the conference
mjr_2: that has nothing to do with the rally lol
mjr_2: i just think we are gonna see a pop today
davout: KRS-1: i left #bitcoin-anal when there was only jurov and me in the chan, was getting awkward XD
mjr_2: i never understood the purpose of that chan
mjr_2: anyway, today is the second open outcry exchange!
davout: mjr_2: my gf never understood the purpose of anal sex, yet ...
mircea_popescu: Two months before that, attorney Thomas P. Lowe of Eagan was suspended for a minimum of 15 months for having a sexual relationship with a client he was representing in a divorce case, and including the time spent during their trysts in his billable hours.
davout: mircea_popescu: classy
mjr_2: please upvote if you have a few secs
mircea_popescu: will expect you to pay for the time they take fucking your wife.
davout: mircea_popescu: i'd totally pay her hourly rate to fuck our lawyer
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2163 @ 0.0007105 = 1.5368 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11578 @ 0.00071102 = 8.2322 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00071114 = 2.4179 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00071178 = 2.9895 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6759 @ 0.00071222 = 4.8139 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: should i pursue anal convesation or the rally pop conversation
davout: cut the pear in two as we say, let's talk about the anal pop
davout: i'm going to write a song
davout: gonna call it "I FUCKING HATE ACCOUNTING"
jurov: dun dun dun dunudnudn
davout: jamming over skype, probably the easiest and fastest way to lose your mental sanity
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.106 = 0.318 BTC [-]
jurov: skype jam.. no thanks. imma rather have afternoon nap
KRS-1: idk its mircea_popescu's chan I was just holding it open for him
KRS-1: when I tried taking it didnt you say you got that room a while ago but can't remember why..
KRS-1: guess there really is no need to for a dual purpose bitcoin channel with a focus on rectal health..
KRS-1: maybe we should party in there just one more time on say Friday night maybe..one final blowout.
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.19 = 0.38 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.106 BTC [-]
KRS-1: im seeing bearish signals on my graphs..was there selloffs coming today or this week maybe
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.01521 = 0.0456 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.514002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01521 = 0.1217 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.514001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.015233 = 0.0305 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.547999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.53 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00071155 = 0.925 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070813 = 3.0598 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8079 @ 0.00070791 = 5.7192 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.53 = 3.06 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.514002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.514 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.511 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010098 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.501001 = 3.002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.501 = 6.004 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.501001 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.501003 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00070791 = 0.9203 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.501002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.501001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.501 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.50001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.50001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3823 @ 0.00070791 = 2.7063 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070722 = 3.0559 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10056 @ 0.00070721 = 7.1117 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.01473 = 0.0442 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94 @ 0.00070721 = 0.0665 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 82 @ 0.01495 = 1.2259 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01495 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00070669 = 7.2082 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 42 @ 0.01495 = 0.6279 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.01473 = 0.545 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19446 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 63 @ 0.01473 = 0.928 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00070575 = 3.1406 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070542 = 3.0481 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00070541 = 5.0437 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12729 @ 0.000705 = 8.9739 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.523994 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.000705 = 8.8125 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00304 = 0.0061 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2687 @ 0.00070669 = 1.8989 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.412 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.411002 = 0.822 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.500001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.5 = 4.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.495108 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.4951 = 2.9902 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.495 = 7.475 BTC [-]
Uglux: MPOE-PR bitching in AM thread -> popcorn time
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.523999 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: I stopped watching closely because I believe the fundamental low has risen enough to make us stable above 105 or so
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 349 @ 0.01471003 = 5.1338 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 151 @ 0.01471002 = 2.2212 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.524 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.524 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: that's just when I think the bottom might meet current price
ThickAsThieves: interested to see if that gets us back into steady-rise mode
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.524 = 3.048 BTC [+]
Uglux: what happened to our supernode? was he raped?
error4733: i have a bet, 500$ by end of summer !
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.106 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 519 @ 0.00070669 = 0.3668 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00070809 = 1.2392 BTC [+]
error4733: yes i know ! that why is a 10€ bet :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 381 @ 0.00070842 = 0.2699 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.524499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5245 BTC [+]
error4733: I need some avalon chips ! ? any link for a auction or a sell ?
ThickAsThieves: I think it's wste of time to buy chips unless you have big plans
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01491 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: MPOE-PR has some worthy points about AM, but they are hard to swallow when they are dripping with vindictiveness
inhies: ThickAsThieves: well said
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.549788 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: error4733, that kind of thing is indistinguishable from a scam
error4733: so my wet dream to bought some chips and send it to this guy is just a wet dream ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.000705 = 5.8163 BTC [-]
Uglux: escrow? John (John K.) is the real supernode in bitcoinland
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0149 = 0.0447 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.549787 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.549789 BTC [+]
error4733: he charges for escrow ? always tought he asked for tips, not a %
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.549786 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.502001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.549786 = 4.6494 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.510345 BTC [-]
error4733: he take 1-1.5% of all blade money ????
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.511 BTC [+]
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.000705 = 4.512 BTC [-]
error4733: bc,stats : avalon you're good, AM you're good, BFL you're fucked
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01494 = 0.0299 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.0149 = 0.2533 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.01473 = 0.545 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.01472 = 0.1325 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.01471002 = 2.2065 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.106 = 0.318 BTC [-]
jurov: ThickAsThieves: freenode's still under ddos
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 38 @ 0.01494 = 0.5677 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00070646 = 3.5323 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.547999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.548 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.548897 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.01495 = 0.2243 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.014905 = 0.0447 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 110 @ 0.01495 = 1.6445 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: I also have plenty more coming in from incoming deals.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.513 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.512005 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.512004 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.512 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01495 = 0.1495 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.511 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.511001 BTC [+]
deadweasel: how will this be judged? if they get a usb powered jalepeno? an SC that is within 10% power? Did they specify power?
deadweasel: just wondering if they ship something within' that range, like an SC.. the bet should be yes?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.511001 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.511 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.51 = 10.57 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.0009 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5842 @ 0.000705 = 4.1186 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00070429 = 2.6763 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6638 @ 0.00070421 = 4.6745 BTC [-]
BitHub: anyone have any custom charts for the assets :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2237 @ 0.00070421 = 1.5753 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00070366 = 1.7592 BTC [-]
BitHub: kind of like cryptocharts.info but for all assets and asset exchanges
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2163 @ 0.00070192 = 1.5183 BTC [-]
BitHub: does anyone display mpex charts anywhere? or is it all within mpex?
BitHub: okey babe, got a link?
BitHub: cool, mind if i check it out?
BitHub: oh nice TAT, thank you, thanks kako
BitHub: TAT that chart is too much like bitfunders :( saddens me cant make a csv out of it
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01495 = 0.0299 BTC [+]
BitHub: oh jesus, mpex sierra chart feed
BitHub: that's what i'm talking about, awesome, anyone have a bridge for havelock, btct, bitfunder?
BitHub: that mpex sierrachart is genius, i was going to donate just based on that
BitHub: where should i sent .1 too?
kakobrekla: its for people who really need it ya know
ThickAsThieves: NOTE: TAT Investments is currently the [i]only [/i]passthrough provider that shares this level of transparency. It is our mission to set a new standard in bitcoin investments.
BitHub: i really need all of them
kakobrekla: well pm me bithub when and if you want to set it up.
BitHub: you mean for all of them or just mpex?
kakobrekla: stocks, i also have options but on another channel
BitHub: so this sierra mpex feed costs 1btc a year?
kakobrekla: its opensouce, the client and protocol
kakobrekla: you can do whatever implementation on it
BitHub: sierra subscription only .8 for the year :)
BitHub: for 14 days or something
BitHub: i just had to pay for a subscription
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5783 @ 0.00070192 = 4.0592 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1917 @ 0.00070174 = 1.3452 BTC [-]
BitHub: ahh yeah, because not official feed
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
BitHub: very cool, i'll come back to it oneday
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 7 @ 0.104 = 0.728 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00070646 = 0.7065 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 879 @ 0.00070725 = 0.6217 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3940 @ 0.00070842 = 2.7912 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1483 @ 0.00070927 = 1.0518 BTC [+]
davout: kakobrekla: sierrachart is something like metatrader ?
davout: kakobrekla: (pardon my ignorance)
davout: like a client you connect to your broker ? (or directly to an exchange? i'd imagine not)
BitHub: there are heaps of peeps working on software like that tho for cryptos
kakobrekla: this is fun: We see that the MTGox data feed is not entirely reliable and also from an engineering perspective, its technical implementation really is very confusing and not well structured. They are using what is called a web socket and then on top of that Socket I/O . This is unnecessary and the method by which this is implemented is not technically correct. So we are not very impressed with the MTGox data feed. This is just a comment.
davout: interesting, so it's sierracharts itself that collects the feed from mtgox
kakobrekla: not sure what their implementation will be exactly
kakobrekla: i mean if they will proxy it or no, im guessing they will
davout: relying on the mtgox ws feed sounds like folly
kakobrekla: anyway you will be able to trade from it somehow apparently
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00070193 = 2.4919 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.01495 = 0.0897 BTC [+]
BitHub: what's that thing that everyone uses? goxtool or something
davout: supercalifragilistickexpialidociousgoxtool ?
davout: supercalifragilistickexpialidociousgoxtool reloaded deluxe edition ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.01495 = 0.1944 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: That's great news. Keep up the good work.
kakobrekla: Sierra Chart Engineering : Interesting. Never heard of such a concept when it comes to trading. We would think that immediate execution should always be achieved as much as possible.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.538799 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5388 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5399 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.5399 = 3.0798 BTC [+]
davout: i'm developing this redis-based in-memory trading engine, gonna sell it to markie karpie and kill his lag
davout: BUT MY WHEEL GONNA ROLL MUCH MUCH FASTER
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 140 @ 0.01491 = 2.0874 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.003 = 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00296049 = 1.6283 BTC [-]
davout: kakobrekla: tell me more
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 50 @ 0.01 = 0.5 BTC [-]
mjr_2: kakobrekla: whats up?
kakobrekla: first of all you want to kill gox not save it and second of all for fucks sake, theres a bunch of wheels you could use
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.43465 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.434658 BTC [+]
davout: kakobrekla: well, there's three things
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.106 = 0.53 BTC [+]
davout: 1. i'd never sell out to mtgox, i'd rather die. (unless their offer is reasonable of course)
davout: 2. i like coding, it is fun
davout: (especially ruby+redis+eventmachine)
davout: 3. it's going to be fast
davout: 4. i'm not going to have to learn sthg else
kakobrekla: and basically 10k tps is good enough for a year or so
davout: 5. i don't really know of other wheels i could use
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.412 BTC [+]
davout: if you have pointers to wheels i could use i'm interested
kakobrekla: mjr_2 where you got those skateboard wheels?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2925 = 0.585 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.01776 = 0.1421 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.106 = 0.424 BTC [+]
mjr_2: skateboard wheels?
mjr_2: i have neither a skateboard nor skateboard wheels...
ThickAsThieves: okay, I have to ask, at the risk of being chastized, wtf is this skateboards shit
mjr_2: ThickAsThieves: check out the comments on my blog
mjr_2: blog.btcshares.com
mjr_2: its explained thre
mjr_2: comments, followup post
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2925 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01485 = 0.1485 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01481 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.01481 = 0.2073 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 43 @ 0.01495 = 0.6429 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 771 @ 0.00070193 = 0.5412 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5829 @ 0.00070174 = 4.0904 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.539997 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.194129 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19413 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 14 @ 0.000666 = 0.0093 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.195 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3354 @ 0.00070174 = 2.3536 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00070102 = 2.1732 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.0009 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.511001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00069934 = 8.1123 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.511 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2925 = 0.585 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01495 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.104 = 0.832 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.51 = 4.53 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.502 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.501107 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.500001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.5 = 9 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 150 @ 0.01486 = 2.229 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.01495 = 0.1047 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.5 = 3 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 101 @ 0.009 = 0.909 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.009 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 30 @ 0.01 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01485 = 0.3713 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.01485 = 0.1931 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.014801 = 0.444 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.0148 = 0.592 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 119 @ 0.01474 = 1.7541 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.01474 = 0.4422 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 70 @ 0.01473 = 1.0311 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 60 @ 0.0147105 = 0.8826 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.0147105 = 2.9421 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 40 @ 0.01471002 = 0.5884 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.2771 = 3.0481 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.277 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27500001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.2711 = 1.0844 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.2711 = 1.0844 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.002801 = 0.028 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.0028 = 0.07 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 495 @ 0.002764 = 1.3682 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.002754 = 0.0055 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 21 @ 0.002705 = 0.0568 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.490001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.49 = 5.96 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 50 @ 0.01 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.009999 = 0.02 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 343 @ 0.009998 = 3.4293 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.009998 = 0.02 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 260 @ 0.00999 = 2.5974 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 29 @ 0.00999 = 0.2897 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3050 @ 0.00296049 = 9.0295 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1547 @ 0.00295421 = 4.5702 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00069389 = 13.3574 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.532 BTC [+]
jurov: mircea_popescu: withdrawals pls
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.01494 = 0.0598 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.01494 = 0.0448 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.492 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 59 @ 0.01471002 = 0.8679 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.491051 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2401 = 1.2005 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49105 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00068926 = 6.2723 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00068863 = 3.7186 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.0147001 = 0.3675 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0147 = 0.0735 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 74 @ 0.01466 = 1.0848 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01466 = 0.0733 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.528999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.003159 = 0.0316 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00068572 = 0.3429 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 21 @ 0.003159 = 0.0663 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.519 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.01494 = 0.3436 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.01495 = 0.613 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.014899 = 0.447 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 64 @ 0.01491 = 0.9542 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 241 @ 0.014915 = 3.5945 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.518999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.519 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.519 BTC [+]
FabianB: anyone here interested in buying bigger amounts of btc via sepa?
FabianB: that's when i might start rebuying, just need some cash this week :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.518999 = 18.228 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4297 = 1.2891 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.47 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00068436 = 1.0608 BTC [-]
jurov: the bitcointips seem to create completely opposite effect on hotel staff
jurov: plus the fact risto seems to have left computer unprotected, unencrypted and with browser open /o\
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1059 BTC [+]
jborkl: wait, so they lost 9.1 million ?
jborkl: I had a hard time reading it
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01495 BTC [+]
jurov: "I have suffered the loss of 82% of the fiat value of my bitcoins unscatched."
truffles: oh i was going to get caught up on that
jurov: risto can't write clearly but seems so
jurov: the had some sauna workshop and left computers unprotected, unencrypted and with browser open
jurov: but read it it's funny. maybe you'll come with some other conclusion
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.014915 = 0.1044 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.01495 = 0.2093 BTC [+]
jborkl: wait, so he wanted was naked in the sauna with other dudes and his laptop got stolen...
jborkl: Anna minulle minun laptop takaisin, olen alasti ja on alasti poika saunassa
jborkl: fucking people on BTC talk
jurov: you understand finnish?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00068706 = 5.84 BTC [+]
jurov: google translator had serious trouble
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1059 BTC [+]
jurov: hi mircea_popescu, bitcoin expected to go up thanks to fresh supply of drama from finland
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7963 @ 0.00068436 = 5.4496 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.014915 = 0.0298 BTC [+]
truffles: with celebrity comes great responsiblity to oneself etc
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.19 = 0.57 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5189 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.519 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 687 @ 0.00068436 = 0.4702 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 18 @ 0.014915 = 0.2685 BTC [+]
FabianB: mircea_popescu: btw. where did the black theme of mpex.co go?
deadweasel: wow, this guy is manic. how could anybody trust someone like that?
deadweasel: i didn't judge him for being manic... just pointed it out. facts are not judgements
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.51999 BTC [+]
deadweasel: could somebody give me a reason to drink?
deadweasel: but when you worry you make them double
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.519 = 6.076 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.519 = 4.557 BTC [-]
truffles: drink to ripple taking over bitcoin
deadweasel: a lot has changed in 36 minutes I was away
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.501 BTC [-]
deadweasel: jurov, you get someone to finish that weak-ass 'guide' I started?
jurov: deadweasel: did not search further yet, had other things to do
jurov: yes. and taking afternoon naps
deadweasel: I'm guessing all MPEX IPOs have been delayed until interest in bitcoin has resurfaced?
truffles: listening to this largo symphony it sure sets the mood
jurov: deadweasel: you know of any?
truffles: weasel drink to mpex crashing?
deadweasel: S Burkah? are we invested in Islamic women?
deadweasel: their husbands will be pissed and start a war against.....
jurov: that ratpoison one?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.01491899 = 0.0597 BTC [+]
truffles: thats such a posh name, was it told how he came up with it
jurov: wouldn't surprise me if few dudes met in a trollbox somwehere and came out with the name
jurov: yes, it tends to spill ver
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.411004 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 9 @ 0.411003 = 3.699 BTC [-]
jurov: i'm totally using it "yes, this thing spilled over from trollbox"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.01491899 = 0.2238 BTC [+]
truffles: whether from a cave or mountain top..
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 34 @ 0.1059 = 3.6006 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.106 = 0.53 BTC [+]
truffles: i guess ill see every1 til after the next split, da2ce7 and i will be here..
deadweasel: ha, freenode is gasping for breath, yet here I sit, in 15 channels, just lurking.
jurov: till the blockchain makes us part
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.411003 = 4.11 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: im curious if this actually blows freenode off the interwebs.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6676 @ 0.00068408 = 4.5669 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.51999 = 3.04 BTC [+]
deadweasel: who is this guy? you think he has any chance?
mircea_popescu: well here's the score : if he is in fact delivering 200th up to 22peta hash,
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.01491899 = 0.1194 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if you have a bitcoin in asicminer it makes sense to bet as much as .1 btc against him, seeing the odds.
mircea_popescu: therefore, we can calculate the % of idiots in asicminer as follows :
mircea_popescu: just some off the cuff degree-of-magnitude accurate maffs.
ezdiy: deadweasel: it will likely kick out the channel which is causing the ddos drama
dub: its not #bitcoin-trollbox
dub: thats a picture of health
ezdiy: dub: yea, i kinda suspect it'll be #bitcoin* :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.51999 = 12.1599 BTC [+]
ezdiy: bitcoin is second largest community after ubuntu
ezdiy: (out of my arse speculation)
ezdiy: (subtly luring me to start bitbet.us bet lol :)
mircea_popescu: tho tbh kicking out bitcoin would be pretty damaging to them.
jborkl: So the full terms of the bitfury bet are - they deliver how much? in basically a month?
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: not enough info for that yet :/
ezdiy: might be just some kiddo nerdraging at mircop
ezdiy: or a guy with serious firepower systematically trying to target something
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1874 @ 0.00068676 = 1.287 BTC [+]
dub: im sure that would pass bash moderation
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.51999 = 37.9998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.01491899 = 0.1939 BTC [+]
deadweasel: no higher education... gonna make the chips himself?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.531992 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: honestly i was expecting to see that bet like 5:1 not 1:10
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.01512 = 0.4536 BTC [+]
dub: fwiw higher education just means you learned to suck dick
ezdiy: damn easy europeans
deadweasel: they need to drop those things in vegetable oil for cooling.
ezdiy: and their provess at both scamming and technology design lol
deadweasel: well, ya learn a lot of things, mostly conditioning
dub: not much in a practical sense
deadweasel: no, not practical, then again I didn't study all that hard either.
ezdiy: mineral oil makes sense if you have a lot of components with thermal surface
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.54876 BTC [+]
ezdiy: inb4 avalon aquarium
deadweasel: you could just pump the oil around a little faster
ezdiy: i mean, its not worth the hassle
ezdiy: to have a leak proof tank, pumps, heat exchangers etc, if you can just use fans
deadweasel: when my bitfury asic gets here, I'm putting a fan on it 0.o
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16226 @ 0.00068446 = 11.106 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1163 @ 0.00068706 = 0.7991 BTC [+]
ezdiy: deadweasel: just order the whole 100gh/s fpga rack
ezdiy: submerge it in oil and heat exchange with water in nearby river
ezdiy: you save 3kw on air cooling \o/
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5204 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.520324 BTC [-]
ezdiy: nah, i was just kinda lampooning their current fpga offering as it is largely outdated atm :)
ezdiy: i think mp is mostly pedantic nazi
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00068706 = 1.3398 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: sorry about the delay ThickAsThieves. i've recently beefed up the security and i think i might have gone too far ;/
dub: I think ezdiy has a calssic case of 'I'm chatting on the internet therefor I know everything'
dub: and also a classic case
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.01491899 = 0.4476 BTC [+]
dub: if it was trolling, he'd need to be in #bitcoin-trollbox
ezdiy: dub: well, you _dont_ know?
ezdiy: it's clearly established wisdom of bitcoin community that not knowing implies ignorance
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.548389 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5484 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.549978 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.549978 BTC [+]
dub: hey I'm just here to spam #bitcoin-trollbox
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1100 @ 0.00300015 = 3.3002 BTC [+]
ezdiy: figured as much :)
ezdiy: and maybe learn a thing or two about finance in the process
jurov: mircea_popescu i hope you don't beef up the security so far as reptilia
jurov: "I have pretty many coins and I store them with pretty many precautions. By many, I mean that it takes me an approximately 16 hours of my prime work time to do it, and it also does not happen without a considerable monetary cost."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.01491899 = 0.179 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 21 @ 0.01492 = 0.3133 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.01492 = 0.179 BTC [+]
jborkl: hmm, all my nodes paused and are acting strage
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 57 @ 0.014925 = 0.8507 BTC [+]
jurov: jborkl: ec2 nodes?
jborkl: all my class 1.2 supernodes
jurov: you must check the sauna
jurov: but the fork is planned on tomorrow, no?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 70 @ 0.014925 = 1.0448 BTC [+]
jborkl: they are still relaying, but appear to have stopped
jurov: hm.. my bitcoinds seem to work normally
jborkl: yes, for sure - my nodes are not working correct as of the last block - the time stamp in bitcoind has stopped also
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.01492 = 0.179 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.01491899 = 0.179 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 12 @ 0.0009 = 0.0108 BTC [+]
jborkl: restarted and now the time stamp is progressing
jurov: where it does show timestamp?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2557 @ 0.00068733 = 1.7575 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13343 @ 0.00068706 = 9.1674 BTC [-]
jurov: don't shit me, bitcoind getinfo is not outputting any timestamp
jurov: pls can anyone explain me what's happening. in full sentences...
jborkl: I am trying to figure it out, have to go home though
ezdiy: ERROR: CScriptCheck() : bbf6540a80bf356ab33c7ebf15317a246ed3a46bfe0df30bba3052935d711b9b VerifySignature failed
ezdiy: ERROR: CTxMemPool::accept() : ConnectInputs failed bbf6540a80bf356ab33c7ebf15317a246ed3a46bfe0df30bba3052935d711b9b
ezdiy: this can't be good
ezdiy: my bitcoind claims the sig is invalid
ezdiy: but blockchain info says its ok
ezdiy: (im running latest git)
mircea_popescu: ok everyone do not make any further txns until we figure out what the fuck is going on
jborkl: fuck if you and I notcied right away wtf are they doing
ezdiy: can someone ./bitcoind gettransaction bbf6540a80bf356ab33c7ebf15317a246ed3a46bfe0df30bba3052935d711b9b
ezdiy: then we're screwed
ezdiy: as i'm on the other side of fork
jurov: error: {"code":-5,"message":"Invalid or non-wallet transaction id"}
jborkl: well mp , obvious but pause my withdrawal until later
ezdiy: jurov: did it get rejected in your debug.log as well?
jurov: blockchain.info shows it as unconfirmed
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: yeah, but your node should have rejected it :/
jborkl: transactions are still going through all of my nodes
ezdiy: with ConnectInputs failed
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: grep ~/.bitcoin/debug.log for it
ezdiy: well, lets wait for a bit
jurov: it only says received getdata for: tx bbf6540a80
ezdiy: maybe its just orphaned tx input or something
jborkl: storing orphans like a bitch though
mircea_popescu: it would seem over about a dozen nodes there's something like... 8 diff chains/orphans ?
TheSeven: ezdiy: bbf6540a80bf356ab33c7ebf15317a246ed3a46bfe0df30bba3052935d711b9b non-existant here
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: we need getrawtransaction of that guy, if possible
TheSeven: CTxMemPool::accept() : accepted bbf6540a80 (poolsz 2531)
TheSeven: received getdata for: tx bbf6540a80
TheSeven: so it seems to be accepted on my node
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.54988 BTC [-]
TheSeven: but of course gettransaction doesn't because it isn't from my wallet
TheSeven: $ bitcoind getrawtransaction bbf6540a80bf356ab33c7ebf15317a246ed3a46bfe0df30bba3052935d711b9b
TheSeven: 0100000001eb8b5d0d5dd4b4dd61d9737d82f63d24c34aa55587d0e4a7605aa230120e91fb000000008a4730440220c309d71f3b8cbafce79d7ab2afde11c16d8f566f2d1e375b305df621ec0d9f230220c073cfa2018bee371bd4f771730368d66762628093f5d1922123c7938681fd0d014104b7b6fcff33b2233c8ca607390f951e845865088a26264a291ffcea2d67bcccfc0dee3e2f906f6feeedea3d2fcf563f5d5c1a7e76a621b8fb659ad9865f2eefeeffffffff010008af2f000000001976a9147b6746f308567c7d5e7ac79bb79412339952514888ac0
TheSeven: ok, moving this over to #bitcoin-dev
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00068274 = 5.3936 BTC [-]
ezdiy: the hour-or-so gap points to FUD campaign imo
ezdiy: though hourly block gaps happen for innocent reasons too
ezdiy: all pools unlucky -> lots of rejected txes because of DER sig rules -> FUD
ezdiy: you can s/all pools unlucky/all pools dosed somehow/
ezdiy: yep, all the broken txes seem to have nonstandard sigs under 0.8.2
ezdiy: no idea, i'm just looking at debug.log
ezdiy: there was apparently some split brain scenario during the time there were no new blocks mined
mircea_popescu: my dept of technology & paranoia is not happy with the sig explanation.
ezdiy: as you can send tx on of another one in mempool
ezdiy: not much so when half of network rejects it in mempool though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.269 BTC [+]
gribble: Error: "difchange" is not a valid command.
gribble: Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 18.95114 % based on data since last change | 17.0779 % based on data for last three days
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 13307370.2306 based on data since last change | 13097805.7081 based on data for last three days
gribble: Time since last block: 3 minutes and 53 seconds
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: yeah, there was a hour-or-so gap
dub: That Escalated Quickly
gribble: Error: "block" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "blockhieght" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: 0000000000000133f6f3a4750a atop 0000000000000045aeb20b5d64 ?
jurov: yes blockhain.info shows these two most recent
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 37 @ 0.014925 = 0.5522 BTC [+]
ezdiy: look at blockchain info, there was *over a hour* gap between blocks
ezdiy: pools simply were unlucky/dosed
jurov: and people who use 0.8.2 from git see the tx rejected
ezdiy: jurov: until its accepted in the block by 0.8.1 miner
ezdiy: then even 0.8.2 accepts it
ezdiy: or at least it should
jurov: ezdiy yes, it got accepted now
jurov: but no orphaned blocks afaik
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 42 @ 0.01512 = 0.635 BTC [+]
ezdiy: you're btc-e kiddo and can ddos pools
ezdiy: 0.8.2 implements weird rule
ezdiy: whatya do to create price wave to ride it? :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.549 = 3.098 BTC [-]
ezdiy: (i highly doubt its was just an innocent coincidence, as the chances are <1% of block gap occuring so conveniently)
ezdiy: yeah, that'd confirm my speculation
dub: guild's website was down yesterday
ezdiy: short ddoses go unnoticed often though
ezdiy: most miners have it setup to switch pools when one is down
ezdiy: of course it's false sense of security, just ddos all the pools commonly used lol
ezdiy: (btw, p2pool is suspected to have high stale rate because you can tie individual miners/hashpower to certain ips)
ezdiy: in that sense, pools are useful they shield individual miners from direct attacks
mircea_popescu: tjhat just shows how dysfunctional the entire p2p model is.
ezdiy: well, better said naive implementation of p2p
gribble: Time since last block: 11 minutes and 35 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.014925 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 35 @ 0.014925 = 0.5224 BTC [+]
gribble: Error: "blockas" is not a valid command.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.549 = 3.098 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.1 BTC [-]
ezdiy: block with no transactions
ezdiy: but slush is signed in coinbase if you click at txid
ezdiy: means his bitcoind must have been somehow convinced there were no txes *at all*
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.549978 = 3.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.549978 = 6.1999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.549979 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.549979 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.549979 = 3.1 BTC [+]
ezdiy: or maybe just broken code, who knows
ezdiy: the downside of central models :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.549979 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.549979 = 6.1999 BTC [+]
optimator: ezdiy: when a new block is found the pool code pushes work out with no txs. it does this while it builds the new merkle root. that way the miners have work immediately
optimator: and on the off chance someone solves it everyone is rewarded
ezdiy: optimator: not most optimal solution then, though :/
ezdiy: i'm surprised theres no bloody murder scream from users about 1-tx blocks
optimator: we'll it's beyond a long shot - within seconds new work is pushed with transactions. Otherwise the miners would be working on work for a block that had already been solved
ezdiy: but the underlying idea is only greed