tmsr - Log 2013-02-21

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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1336 @ 0.0006384 = 0.8529 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006387 = 2.7598 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16843 @ 0.00063871 = 10.7578 BTC [+]

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.718 BTC [+]

assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 6 @ 0.00065 = 0.0039 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4736 @ 0.00062768 = 2.9727 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2414 @ 0.00062761 = 1.5151 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063223 = 2.7319 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1497 @ 0.00063255 = 0.9469 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1907 @ 0.00062761 = 1.1969 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1402 @ 0.0006276 = 0.8799 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006278 = 2.7127 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062768 = 2.7122 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9116 @ 0.0006276 = 5.7212 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10242 @ 0.00062686 = 6.4203 BTC [-]

deadweasel: allo?

deadweasel: ;;slap gribble

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063227 = 2.732 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9705 @ 0.00063255 = 6.1389 BTC [+]

jurov: interesting why mpoe buys options for 0.32184551 that can be exercised for 0.32088285 (C200T)

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2879 @ 0.00063255 = 1.8211 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006387 = 2.7598 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11727 @ 0.00063871 = 7.4902 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9873 @ 0.00063938 = 6.3126 BTC [+]

jurov: almost exactly 1% difference

jurov: C250T the same...1.003%

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1 @ 0.32184551 BTC [+]

jurov: dunno. so today i sell instead of exercising

jurov: ;;bc,stats

jurov: ;;calc 0.08-0.03651011

gribble: 0.04348989

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00063933 = 0.3197 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3821 @ 0.00063933 = 2.4429 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6479 @ 0.00063938 = 4.1425 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00570001 = 5.7 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3574 @ 0.0057 = 20.3718 BTC [-]

Bowjob_: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.65101, Best ask: 29.70940, Bid-ask spread: 0.05839, Last trade: 29.70940, 24 hour volume: 38746.04227983, 24 hour low: 28.98839, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.46022

Bowjob_: 35 more cents come on

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00063686 = 7.9926 BTC [-]

Namworld: I further reduced the price on SatoshiDice shares on BTCT.co

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006331 = 2.7356 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37179 @ 0.00063278 = 23.5261 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006335 = 2.7374 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15379 @ 0.00063354 = 9.7432 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063282 = 2.7344 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10429 @ 0.00063278 = 6.5993 BTC [-]

maximian: s.dice income goes up, share price goes down - you can't explain that

deadweasel: nope

Namworld: eh. Still had to reduce price on my passthrough

jurov: people cashing out of btc instead of buying the shares

jurov: lol, just today i sold 10btc to someone who wanted to buy asicminer

jurov: hm... unless ukto appears, it looks i'll have to postpone CoinBr.iDiff-E liquidation

jurov: while i can pay it out, someone can sell it subsequently and cash out twice - what would be unfair to buyer

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2548 @ 0.00063278 = 1.6123 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063147 = 2.7286 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00063146 = 2.589 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19931 @ 0.0006285 = 12.5266 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063347 = 2.7372 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8921 @ 0.00063354 = 5.6518 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4658 @ 0.00063686 = 2.9665 BTC [+]

mjr_: hi all

Bowjob: Ps4 being announced!

mjr_: nice

mjr_: did i miss any major news?

mjr_: what's the news?

mjr_: yes i heard

mjr_: suprised i haven't seen $30 yet, but that is expected

mjr_: any S.DICE news?

mjr_: showing the high as 29.87035

mjr_: from mt. gox or a smaller exchange

mjr_: hold on i'm gonna check the vwap

assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0079 BTC [+]

assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.00733 = 0.0147 BTC [-]

assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.00732 = 0.0146 BTC [-]

assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 27 @ 0.00731 = 0.1974 BTC [-]

assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.00731 = 0.0731 BTC [-]

assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.00502 = 0.0402 BTC [-]

mjr_: jurov around?

jurov: yes

mjr_: how are you?

jurov: sleepy

mjr_: lol, just moved more btc in, if you have a chance, have some orders to place

mjr_: also, when i exercise option tomorrow or friday

mjr_: do i lock in the price of my exercise?

mjr_: or is that subject to the exercise being sent to mpex

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063247 = 2.7329 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4745 @ 0.00063229 = 3.0002 BTC [-]

jurov: the exercise is sent to mpex immediately

jurov: and you'll receive btc based on current vwap

jurov: business done.

jurov: fortunately mpex includes all pertinent information in exercise reply so it could be done automatically easily

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14555 @ 0.00063229 = 9.203 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3578 @ 0.0006285 = 2.2488 BTC [-]

mjr_: thanks jurov

mjr_: that is awesome

mjr_: i have to say your brokerage is so nice to use

jurov: glad to hear

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00562961 = 4.5037 BTC [-]

jurov: it has to be, i'm eating own dogfood

jurov: anyway, why nobody sets tx fees? at least something like 0.00001

jurov: then they come and demand deposit to be processed

deadweasel: i agree jurov, i think the problem is not being provided advanced settings when making TXNs

deadweasel: in most wallets

deadweasel: it's a preference, not a per txn setting

deadweasel: and that is a pain to change, so rather than spend 30 seconds changing, they wait 10 minutes for first inclusion, or longer

jurov: okay, accepted all, confirmed or unconfirmed

jurov: if anyone asks about CoinBr.iDiff-E , send them after ukto

jurov: i'm off

jurov: cya

assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.006 = 6 BTC [-]

assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00602 = 0.012 BTC [-]

assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1048 @ 0.006 = 6.288 BTC [-]

deadweasel: usagi

mjr_: sorry jurov

mjr_: yeah, i am transferring from exchange, so i can't set TX fees

assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6 @ 0.00623 = 0.0374 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00608 = 4.864 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00609 = 3.045 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00063367 = 1.7743 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063656 = 2.7506 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.0006367 = 8.8183 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 976 @ 0.00063686 = 0.6216 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.00063665 = 1.1778 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 991 @ 0.0006285 = 0.6228 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062718 = 2.71 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062687 = 0.6269 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8655 @ 0.00062686 = 5.4255 BTC [-]

Bowjob: PS4 Stream over

Bowjob: no kojima, no price announcement

Bowjob: fail

OneFixt: looking to buy XRP

jcpham: nanotube has set the market

jcpham: 1:1

OneFixt: lol

jcpham: demurrage my ass

nanotube: hehe

jcpham: freicoin is where it's at

jcpham: currently i am the miner

jcpham: ripple is last week

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2471 @ 0.00063665 = 1.5732 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9330 @ 0.00063686 = 5.9419 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5368 @ 0.00063938 = 3.4322 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12399 @ 0.00063957 = 7.93 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063935 = 2.7626 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9951 @ 0.00063957 = 6.3644 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10359 @ 0.0006406 = 6.636 BTC [+]

deadweasel: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.71704, Best ask: 29.78000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06296, Last trade: 29.71704, 24 hour volume: 35931.59973145, 24 hour low: 28.98839, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.48437

Bowjob: 30 more cents. come on buy it

deadweasel: .01 bot is working hard to push down the price. weird

deadweasel: manipulators must be buying

deadweasel: for next pump and dump

deadweasel: who the hell buys .01 btc anyway?

deadweasel: bots, i think.

deadweasel: anybody else?

Namworld: interesting

Bowjob: No, its actually pump and dont dump

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000627 = 2.7093 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7603 @ 0.00062686 = 4.766 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3645 @ 0.00062556 = 2.2802 BTC [-]

thestringpuller: deadweasel: not everyone uses FOK

thestringpuller: some people incremental fill the order

deadweasel: FOK?

thestringpuller: fill or kill

thestringpuller: either fill the order in it's entirety or kill it after a certain time

thestringpuller: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.62201, Best ask: 29.72209, Bid-ask spread: 0.10008, Last trade: 29.72209, 24 hour volume: 35966.27130235, 24 hour low: 28.98839, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.48641

thestringpuller: !ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR

assbot: [MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (8 shares, 0.61 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06540414 / 0.089 (338 shares, 22.11 BTC)

thestringpuller: ;;bc,stats

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006256 = 2.7032 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15579 @ 0.00062556 = 9.7456 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.60002, Best ask: 29.67849, Bid-ask spread: 0.07847, Last trade: 29.67849, 24 hour volume: 34177.53570017, 24 hour low: 28.98839, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.48634

mjr_: hey guys...

mjr_: i was a little unclear on how the cash settlement works on options

mjr_: mircea_popescu if you have a minute can you go through this example with me?

mircea_popescu: sure

mjr_: ok

mjr_: i bought this months $17 call

mjr_: it cost me 0.33832578

mircea_popescu: okay

mjr_: depending on how you value the premium i paid (i use my average cost of bitcoins) that puts my breakeven point around $25

mircea_popescu: alright.

mjr_: since the vwap is currently around $29

mjr_: I am right about $4 in the money

mircea_popescu: cool.

mjr_: ok, so when it settles though, I will be settled in bitcoins

mircea_popescu: yea.

mjr_: so do i get $4/$29

mircea_popescu: no.

mjr_: worth of bitcoins?

mjr_: this is the part i got confused on

mircea_popescu: you get (29 - 17) / 29 = 0.413793103 btc

mjr_: aha ok thanks so much

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062834 = 2.7151 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17999 @ 0.0006285 = 11.3124 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12241 @ 0.0006406 = 7.8416 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: that's like 30%ish in btc, or whatever in usd

mjr_: so you use the vwap

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10379 @ 0.00064077 = 6.6506 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: yes.

mircea_popescu: ( strike minus vwap) / vwap.

mjr_: so in that example, i will get approximately .41 btc...

mircea_popescu: yes.

mjr_: i paid approx .33 btc

mircea_popescu: right.

mjr_: so my real return upon exercising my option would be (value-cost)/cost right?

mircea_popescu: well, in btc you paid .33 you got back 41, so .08 net profit.

mjr_: so "return" would be .08/.33

mjr_: or roughly 25%

mircea_popescu: in usd whatever, .41 *29 - .33 * 17 or what's the case

mjr_: ah ok i see

mjr_: that is cool

mircea_popescu: basically you turned 6 bux into 12

mjr_: at the end of the day, i would get the (vwap-strike)/vwap bitcoins

mjr_: NICE

mjr_: and the worth of those bitcoins is up to my valuation

mircea_popescu: more than that lets see

mircea_popescu: (11.89 - 5.61)/5.61

mjr_: my avg cost of bitcoins for february was $25 now

mircea_popescu: ;;calc (11.89 - 5.61)/5.61

gribble: 1.11942959002

mircea_popescu: whereas the exchange only went

mjr_: 111%????

mircea_popescu: ;;calc 12/17

gribble: 0.705882352941

mircea_popescu: yeah so about double speed or w/e

mjr_: that is awesome

mjr_: it is funny

mircea_popescu: it's what options do. if you have the right trend they accelerate it

mircea_popescu: if you don't you lose whatever

mjr_: i only got the 17 call only cuz it had the lowest break even

mjr_: the 19 was not priced in line with the 17

mjr_: so i paid more premium but got much lower breakeven point

mircea_popescu: ya well, you know, it's not linear

mjr_: yeah

mjr_: i mean, for an option chain on a very thick stock

mjr_: like bank of america or something

mircea_popescu: heinz

mjr_: every strike plus premium will usually equal the same

BitHub: mircea you're alive :)

mircea_popescu: only because they expect linear price evolutions

mircea_popescu: BitHub was there any question ?!

mjr_: yes

mircea_popescu: mjr_ well i don't think the mpoe bot expected linear btc in the past year.

mjr_: its cool that you can find good value though

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006329 = 2.7348 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8522 @ 0.00063295 = 5.394 BTC [+]

BitHub: lol yes mircea i heard you got kidnapped

assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00597 = 0.0597 BTC [-]

assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 165 @ 0.00595 = 0.9818 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: i c.

Namworld: Why is S.DICE so low anyway? eh

mircea_popescu: ppl are selling it to buy asics

Namworld: I guess

BitHub: can you buy asicminer on a exchange yet or still hush hush?

mjr_: yeah, i am trying to scoop up as much as i can now while it's low

BitHub: what?! where

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00063295 = 3.323 BTC [+]

jcpham: http://vincesamios.com/bitcoins/valuations-of-stocks-in-bitcoin-brain-melt

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00063043 = 4.2869 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: "The valuation of said company, can in theory exceed the total number of bitcoins. brain melt"

mircea_popescu: the things people pick to get hang up on seriously.

mircea_popescu: jcpham a, actually he makes sense in the end.

Bowjob: bitcoin talk is down

Bowjob: ?

mircea_popescu: practically twice a day.

assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 62 @ 0.0081 = 0.5022 BTC [-]

assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00784 BTC [-]

assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.003 = 0.006 BTC [-]

Bowjob: why does 29.70 feels like its low

Bowjob: for bitcoin

Bowjob: >_>

Bowjob: " The Bitcoin Forum is moving to a new server. Hold tight."

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062583 = 2.7042 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8329 @ 0.00062556 = 5.2103 BTC [-]

kakobrekla: these beans are shit.

Bowjob: is a knife incoming?

mircea_popescu: no wai, btctalk moving off shared hosting ?!

mircea_popescu: i call shenanigans.

thestringpuller: !ticker m O.BTCUSD.C220T

assbot: [MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C220T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.20577298 / 0.20577298 / 0.20577298 (3 shares, 0.62 BTC), 30D: 0.18744462 / 0.1966088 / 0.20577298 (6 shares, 1.18 BTC)

thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: is the bot not quoting anymore?

thestringpuller: since friday is < 48 hours

mircea_popescu: 24 is the cutoff not 48

mircea_popescu: there's minute-ish gaps if the orders it has in expire before it can put new ones in

mircea_popescu: anyways, im off. cya all tomorrow.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062824 = 2.7146 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7529 @ 0.00062846 = 4.7317 BTC [+]

Bowjob: well, it used to be 1 cad = 1.25 usd

Bowjob: like when i was in high school

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.61019, Best ask: 29.62000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00981, Last trade: 29.62000, 24 hour volume: 34715.21158870, 24 hour low: 28.98839, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.55842

Bicknellski: 79 c on the 1

Bicknellski: before?

mircea_popescu: Bowjob actually there's a lot of old media references. elaine (seinfeld) gets evicted for putting canadian quarters in the washing machines

Bowjob: yeah

mircea_popescu: used to be canadian dollars were this "inferior fake dollar" practically.

mircea_popescu: the fact that the usd is lower hurts a lot, im sure.

Bowjob: was it 2 years ago? it was a bit before that

mircea_popescu: the fact that it's absolutely never mentioned proves it.

Bowjob: yeah i am

BitHub: :)

Bicknellski: Canadian Dollar used to be valued a lot more than us in the 50s I think

Bicknellski: up to the 60s

mircea_popescu: BitHub well done.

mircea_popescu: Bicknellski o, was it ?

Bicknellski: On July 11, 1864, the Canadian dollar was worth $2.78 US.

Bicknellski: well not the 50s

Bicknellski: it was the `860s lol

mircea_popescu: a a

Bicknellski: 1860s

mircea_popescu: yukon effect

Bicknellski: before Canada was Canada

mircea_popescu: um no wait

mircea_popescu: 1860 is too early for gold rush

mircea_popescu: was it because they were pegged tot he sterling ?

Bicknellski: 50-year high of $1.0614 US set on August 21, 1957

Bicknellski: ya... so I remembered right

mircea_popescu: 1.06 is hardly "a lot more" :D

Bicknellski: it was the 50s... my parents used to brag about it

Bicknellski: lol

Bicknellski: ya that is why I thought it was more

Bicknellski: most of my life it was sub 1s

Bowjob: Well, CAD was worth over 1 USD earlier this feb

Bowjob: so greenback got some of it sbalue

Bowjob: *value

Bicknellski: We enjoy the lower dollar

Bicknellski: lots of Mericans love to come fishing with a cheap dollar

Bicknellski: lol

Bowjob: the us goods are actually cheaper than canadian ones..

Bicknellski: ya odd

Bicknellski: not meds

Bicknellski: lol

Bowjob: I go to bellingham for cheap deals sometimes

mircea_popescu: ya, cheap dollar would help industry, if there were much left.

Bicknellski: not dead yet

Bowjob: Actually.. americans complained that Canadians borderhop just to shop

Bicknellski: we didnt have a lot of "industry"

Bowjob: and steal all the deals

Bicknellski: we sold off our resources mostly

Bicknellski: still do

Chaang-Noi: my family is involved in maufactoring in the usa, but there is not much left lol

Bowjob: irrc Americans complained about canadians taking milk from the US

Bowjob: with video proof

Bicknellski: weve been a service based economy for 20 or 30 years other than resources

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20375 @ 0.00063647 = 12.9681 BTC [-]

Bicknellski: Sold off in pieces... Mr. Noi

Chaang-Noi: 1860 too early for goldrush? why are the 49ers called the 49ers??

Bicknellski: I love how detroit was basically boxed up and shipped to Mexico

Bicknellski: lol

mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi the yukon gold rush not the california one

Bicknellski: diffent rush

Bicknellski: there was the california one

Bicknellski: Yukon was later

Bicknellski: if I am not mistaken

Chaang-Noi: ahh

Chaang-Noi: that is what i get for reading a wall of text in 30 seconds

Bicknellski: Other minor ones as well

Bowjob: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/13/bellingham-costco-canadians-cheap-milk_n_1773495.html#slide=1374749

Bowjob: hah. I want you guys to note that those people who hounded the milk.. are Indo canadians

Bowjob: they seem to hog all the milk. even here

Bicknellski: Indo?

Bowjob: like indians

Bicknellski: Indonesia?

Bowjob: no

Bicknellski: or our brothers.

Bowjob: indian indians

mircea_popescu: i love milk.

Bowjob: the red dot indians

Bicknellski: the IDLE NO MORE!

Bowjob: not the feather indians

Bowjob: red dot

Bicknellski: oh our brothers from India

Bowjob: think of dhalsim

Bowjob: lol

Bowjob: they buy carfuls of milk all the time

Bicknellski: Nice good on them

Bicknellski: smart

Bicknellski: just like we did with gas

Bicknellski: and clothes

Bicknellski: etc

Bicknellski: in Montreal or Niagra

Bicknellski: ... smokes mostly

Bicknellski: lol

Bowjob: they seem to like milk a lot so

Bowjob: lol

Bicknellski: ya it aint for adults

Bicknellski: GHEE!

Bicknellski: cooking with it all the time

Bowjob: hey brown food is pretty good

Bowjob: i like butter chicken

Bicknellski: hard to get coconut milk

Bicknellski: so they have to sub in real cow.

Bicknellski: I drink coconut milk... mostly.

Bicknellski: cheap here

Bowjob: dont indians get queasy if they see cow meat

mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136104976652.jpg

Bicknellski: Hindus

mircea_popescu: why does that look like it won't end well.

Bicknellski: it is a no no

Bicknellski: taboo...

Bicknellski: many Indians are vegans...

Bicknellski: vegetarians

Bicknellski: good eats...

mircea_popescu: Bicknellski i have it in confidence that it only happens because they can't afford it.

Bicknellski: Love Indian food

mircea_popescu: from this chick that came to college here. used to be vegan at home.

Bicknellski: you can sure peg 1 billion people?

mircea_popescu: totally.

Bicknellski: sorry 800 million

Bicknellski: ?

Bowjob: well.. lets see

Bicknellski: ya I am sure some actually follow their restrictions

Bicknellski: lumping in 800 million pretty tall order

Bowjob: indians here are mostly taxi drivers, and gang bangers

Bicknellski: nice mix

mircea_popescu: same thing with arabs. they don't drink alcohol ? when i visited egypt i could buy any imported alcohol at the duty free shop.

mircea_popescu: what anyone in egypt whanted from white people is to buy them alcohol

Bowjob: yes i kid you not. look up surrey

mircea_popescu: it was like being in a junior high the side of a country.

Bicknellski: Like Americans love democracy then crush democracy at every turn

Bicknellski: lots of hypocrisy in the world

Bicknellski: lol

Bicknellski: called being human...

Bicknellski: One "race" doesnt corner the market on hypocrisy

mircea_popescu: the us people are a race nao ?!

Bicknellski: Lived abroad in Asia for 17 years now...

Bicknellski: pretty much the same people here

Bicknellski: some lie

Bicknellski: some steal

Bicknellski: many work hard

Bicknellski: The ones that run US policy are

Bicknellski: ... typically WASPish

Bicknellski: Doesnt matter where you live most populations have their hypocrites

Bicknellski: ... show me a place that doesnt

mircea_popescu: ugh... did you see a recent pic of the us president ?

Bicknellski: ...Ill move there

Bowjob: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Vancouver_gang_war

Bowjob: Over a quarter of gangs are indians

Bicknellski: Used to be Native and Bikers

Bicknellski: that was fun

Bicknellski: and the Chinese

Bicknellski: .... floating heads in the ocean in the 90s

Bicknellski: if I remember

Chaang-Noi: <Bicknellski> where in asia?

Bicknellski: LOL

Bicknellski: Canada is neither WARM or FUZZY

Bicknellski: we have great PR

Bicknellski: Indonesia right now Mr. Noi

Chaang-Noi: cool

Chaang-Noi: thailand here

Bicknellski: ... been to Thailand LOVED IT

mircea_popescu: wait, you two both live in aha.

mircea_popescu: yeah.

Bicknellski: Ya... lol

Bicknellski: not poverty or the fact that unions are gone etc

Bicknellski: it is the mexicans

Bicknellski: not Free Trade

Bicknellski: or Brian Mulroney and Dipshit Harper

Bicknellski: lol

Bicknellski: cripes

Bicknellski: People in mexico work 2x as hard for 100x less

Bicknellski: Try to get a Canadian to work on tree farm

Bowjob: id do it for the right pay

Bowjob: >:)

Bicknellski: They have to hire in people from Jamaica... Canadians wont last a week

Bicknellski: lol

Bicknellski: ya you would.

Bicknellski: but guess what... all the jobs in Canada and US are going to be not the right pay...

Bicknellski: give it time

Bowjob: lets scale it up. i get $16 an hour for my cushy job

Bicknellski: you wont even be able to hide in a teaching job

Bicknellski: and get a pension

Bicknellski: You guys in the tech field... have it made

Bicknellski: if you have the skills

Bicknellski: they want you

Bicknellski: NICE

Bicknellski: great job if you can get it

Bicknellski: hahaha

Bicknellski: You not in the states Noi?

Bicknellski: You hanging out in Bangkok?

Bicknellski: Man I thought Jakarta was bad... but Bangkok...

Chaang-Noi: bought my girl a new laptop, has touch and windows 8, really fucking weird

Bicknellski: Not sure which is worse

Chaang-Noi: its like a iPad

Chaang-Noi: an

Bicknellski: ya sucks eh.

mircea_popescu: Bicknellski what's wrong with jakarta ?

Bicknellski: GOOD GOD

Chaang-Noi: well, it seems like a nice toy for her, and she likes it, i dont think i could ever use it for doing other than fucking around though

Bicknellski: what is right

Bicknellski: 3 words

mircea_popescu: lol that dun help me much

Bicknellski: FLOODS

Bicknellski: HOT

Bicknellski: JAMMED

mircea_popescu: o boy. ok.

Bowjob: fucking around with an ipad like device

Bowjob: kinky

Chaang-Noi: i dont live and almost never go to bkk, lol

Bicknellski: the infrastructure is 1900s

Bicknellski: ya nice...

Bicknellski: ChangMai... is nice

mircea_popescu: Bicknellski 1900s, you mean sorta like ny ?

Bicknellski: or head south

Bicknellski: No lot worse

lyspooner: that would be an advance in infrastructure for romania

Chaang-Noi: lol, when i go to bkk i almost always fly in or out, and while their take the sky train (subway in the sky)

lyspooner: sounds ok

mircea_popescu: lyspooner how would you know ? :D

Bicknellski: imagine all the old 50s and 60s electrical infrastructure sold to Indonesia

Bicknellski: and now they are struggling to replace it

mircea_popescu: no need to imagine lol, it's what happened

Chaang-Noi: 1900's what part of bkk where you in, lol

Bicknellski: the old dutch system of levees and dykes

Bicknellski: one huge cesspit here when it rains

Bicknellski: and then throw in about 20 million people?

Bicknellski: and the only thing that works right

Bicknellski: the Bus system

Bicknellski: that they jerry rigged into the center of the city for a few million

Bicknellski: which took 2 lanes of traffic off the main roads

Bicknellski: they work

Chaang-Noi: what city are you talking about bicknellski?

Bicknellski: but the JAMS it causes lol

Bicknellski: Jakarta

Chaang-Noi: okay,

Bicknellski: ... Bangkok I heard is a lot better

Bicknellski: now

Bicknellski: with they train

Bicknellski: they took 20? yers

Bicknellski: years for that one

Chaang-Noi: i ahve been here 8 years and they have always had the train when i was here

Bicknellski: Ya gotta have the AC

Chaang-Noi: i have never had AC in anyplace i have lived

Bicknellski: Im alright though out in the Burbs of Jakarta

Chaang-Noi: i dont have it now either, did not even need it for my gpu farm :/

Bicknellski: ya you are the real deal

Bicknellski: ... I cant live in Canada anymore

Chaang-Noi: i do however never live in the city, so that helps a lot

Bicknellski: and I cant acclimatize to Jakarta

Chaang-Noi: i have windows open all the time, and lots of windows

Chaang-Noi: also fans off and on

Bicknellski: too cold in June in Ontario and Vancouver for me this summer

Bicknellski: the heat wave was a joke

Bicknellski: little humidity compared to here

Bowjob: just move to bahamas

Bowjob: find satoshi

Bicknellski: Do you mine BTC as well Mr. Noi?

Chaang-Noi: not right now, i did

Bicknellski: I was thinking about it... but the heat

Bicknellski: be a real problem

Chaang-Noi: hold some asicminer stock if that counts

Bicknellski: hahaha

Bicknellski: I saw

Chaang-Noi: i had like 25 ghash at one point

Bicknellski: ... making some return on your I for the shares you pawned in the forums

Bicknellski: nice

Bicknellski: LOVE

Bicknellski: I teach so I am satisfied

Bicknellski: and I can go golfing anytime I like if the rain aint to heavy

Bicknellski: ... beach? hmmm not too far

Bicknellski: Bali only 90 mins

Bicknellski: etc

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063606 = 2.7484 BTC [-]

Chaang-Noi: i like thailand, and im not that rich

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 239 @ 0.000636 = 0.152 BTC [-]

Bicknellski: always a trade off

Bicknellski: I wasnt born here... Mr. Noi probably would find US a pain in the ass compared to the convenience of Thailand

Bicknellski: here (Canada)

Bicknellski: there... I guess

Chaang-Noi: i do find the USA to be a pain in the ass

Bicknellski: No?

Bicknellski: can you get a good lemon grass soup?

Chaang-Noi: they take all meh freedomz

Chaang-Noi: i dont know if i could or not:)

Bicknellski: Guess there would be enough good Thai places to eat...

Bicknellski: but never the same

Bicknellski: Like I used to live in Korea and I do miss a good kalbi soup

Bicknellski: or kimchi done the right way

Chaang-Noi: my wife cooks most of the time

Bicknellski: Asia is a great place for expats...

Bicknellski: once you get your head around you aint in Kansas no more...

Bicknellski: You have to blend and go with the flow...

Bicknellski: and it is very easy to live in most countries here

Bicknellski: They didn't pay off the judges I guess

Bicknellski: usually they send people back to UK or AUS for the last year or two of a sentence.

Bicknellski: even in death cases

Bicknellski: ya obviously

Bicknellski: idiot

Bicknellski: You dont play in Asia

Bicknellski: dont care if you are a granny or not

Bicknellski: you know the risk

assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.0948 BTC [+]

Bicknellski: Cripes they target the touristas in Bali

Bicknellski: for that

Bicknellski: ... you don't buy drugs there either...

Bicknellski: not a good situation indonesian jail

Bicknellski: ... well the cops or locals can work together to set people up

Bicknellski: and to get off the charge you have to pay a bit amount

Bicknellski: eww

Bicknellski: crap that can happen in your house

Bicknellski: not just jail

Bicknellski: You have to get used to living with insects and geckos inside your home

Bicknellski: sometimes a big rat as well

Bicknellski: turn on the light at night in the kitchen...

Bicknellski: be PREPARED!

Bicknellski: lol

Bicknellski: I hated earwigs as kid

Bicknellski: imagine me with a 3 inch cockroach staring me down

Bicknellski: Ya!!!!!

Bicknellski: Scream like a girl

Bicknellski: and it FLIES

Bicknellski: Awwww

Bicknellski: lol

Bicknellski: ya... ask Noi.

Bicknellski: bet they have there too in Thailand

Bicknellski: ... I love the Giant spiders in the trees

Bicknellski: insects everywhere

Bicknellski: living in the land of perpetual summer is great

Bicknellski: hmmm

Bicknellski: ya... go high enough here

Bicknellski: it is like that

Bicknellski: alpine

Bicknellski: tropical highlands

Bicknellski: just about an hour from here

Bicknellski: Temp is 22 to 23 at night

Bicknellski: and... 26 to 28 C daytime

Bicknellski: it is nice

Bicknellski: have to wear a light jacket

Bicknellski: ... perfect

Bicknellski: year round...

Bicknellski: have one drop in your popcorn watching twilight zone

Bicknellski: and then scream

Bicknellski: like a girl

Bicknellski: ya... after I stop screaming

Bicknellski: lol

Bicknellski: First time you see a monkey in the trees that is when you know you have moved a distance away from your home

Bicknellski: We could be good... just have to throw away all our modern crap

Bicknellski: ... naw

Bicknellski: nevermind

Bicknellski: lol

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15761 @ 0.000636 = 10.024 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17688 @ 0.00063592 = 11.2482 BTC [-]

Bicknellski: Not much left there either

Bicknellski: cut most of the forest down

Bicknellski: ... same here in Indonesia

Bicknellski: fast losing it

Bicknellski: better go travel it before it is gone

Bicknellski: Ya sad.

Bicknellski: Alaska is pretty much intacted

Bicknellski: amazingly

Bicknellski: summer

Bicknellski: lol

Bicknellski: blackflies and bears WOOT

Bicknellski: http://artofmanliness.com/trunk/441/alone-in-the-wilderness/ <--- if I had grown up in the bush... I would do this for my last 20 years

Bicknellski: I am a man men don't ask for directions

Bicknellski: lol

Bicknellski: I watch the full length video of that

Bicknellski: it is awesome

Bicknellski: he did for 30

Bicknellski: holy crap

Bicknellski: 51... to 80

Bicknellski: man what a rock

Bicknellski: no power tools

Bicknellski: lol

Bicknellski: sheesh

Bicknellski: NOPE

Bicknellski: find the video and download it

Bicknellski: it is awesome

Bicknellski: you can go and visit the cabin

Bicknellski: it is maintain by the parks service I think

Bicknellski: it goes

Bicknellski: not like you can maintain it forever...

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13804 @ 0.00063592 = 8.7782 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063311 = 3.1656 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43967 @ 0.0006331 = 27.8355 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9829 @ 0.00063234 = 6.2153 BTC [-]

Bicknellski: two cabins

Bicknellski: one was already there his buddies I guess or another oldtimer

Bicknellski: I know eh... REALITY TV before REALITY TV

Bicknellski: true that

Bicknellski: ... were ill equipped

Bicknellski: but that is why we have 7 billion...

jurov: well, i know people who do it like that here, myself helped to build a cabin (only power tool was the chainsaw to chop down the trees, axes from that on for everything)

jurov: milked the goats, lol

Bicknellski: when that video was made... 3,556,946,153

Bicknellski: hahaa

Bicknellski: meh...

Bicknellski: why bother ...

Bicknellski: I mean that is whole point... we dont have to anymore...

Bicknellski: pfft

Bicknellski: unpasteurized

Bicknellski: good luck

Bicknellski: mind you I have had whole milk before

Bicknellski: lol

jurov: lol, ur mom fed you unpasteurized milk

Bicknellski: less you having sex with the goat

jurov: at least i hope

Bicknellski: ... or cow

Bicknellski: lol

Bicknellski: Did she ?

Bicknellski: are you sure I wasnt bottle fed?

Bicknellski: lol

Bicknellski: I prefer the modern world in many ways over the ancient

Bicknellski: ... just a lot easier to live

Bicknellski: I like that

Bicknellski: dentistry

Bicknellski: especially

Bicknellski: you grow it all?

Bicknellski: every last thing you eat?

Bicknellski: wow nice

Bicknellski: oh... so no

Bicknellski: ya... making your own bread be a bitch

Bicknellski: get the wheat

Bicknellski: grind it up

Bicknellski: etc etc

Bicknellski: few people live like that today

Bicknellski: very few

Bicknellski: You need some space

Bicknellski: ya they should

Bicknellski: ... bastards giving farmers crops that can't reseed

Bicknellski: that is just tip of the iceberg

Bicknellski: is it 420 selling heirloom veggie seeds for bitcoin?

Bicknellski: ya youd hate to think if the seed all failed what do you do then?

Bicknellski: If I had more space I'd do more hydroponics

Bicknellski: we had a small fish and veggie set up at my last school

Bicknellski: got a few fish and lots of tomatoes and lettuce from it

Bicknellski: pretty efficient

Bicknellski: did a year course on that

Bicknellski: ... lots of issues with it

Bicknellski: but doable

Bicknellski: use some miners to heat it

Bicknellski: lol

jurov: hehe

Bicknellski: lol

Bicknellski: this week lol

Bicknellski: cripes

Bicknellski: dude 1 a day or more

Bicknellski: hahaha

Bicknellski: man... get some veg in ya

Bicknellski: everyday

Bicknellski: get fresh stuff

Bicknellski: I eat salad twice a day... still a fat fuck.

Bicknellski: ... damn cereal

Bicknellski: it aint the meat it is bread that gets me

Bicknellski: ya that is good

Bicknellski: terrible for ya

Bicknellski: bread is also a nasty one

Bicknellski: too good to give up

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19570 @ 0.00063647 = 12.4557 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063911 = 3.1956 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23540 @ 0.00063912 = 15.0449 BTC [+]

assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 3 @ 0.00299 = 0.009 BTC [+]

Bicknellski: no doubt... till your electricity costs for the lamps get the cops coming

Bicknellski: Pretty much anything can be hydro

Bicknellski: just need the right medium

Bicknellski: I dont know about weed.

Bicknellski: but the key is water flow temp and nutrients

Bicknellski: there are many ways to set up hydro

Bicknellski: and keeping things clean

Bicknellski: doesn't take much to screw up a greenhouse

Bicknellski: also get a good book on house plant pests

Bicknellski: and be away of the signs for them

Bicknellski: mealy bug spider mites scale etc

Bicknellski: white fly

Bicknellski: aphids

Bicknellski: if you do it right should never get infestations

Bicknellski: prevention best solution

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063621 = 3.1811 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.0006362 = 5.2168 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00063234 = 4.2367 BTC [-]

Bicknellski: that means sterilization of the soil

Bicknellski: etc

Bicknellski: or keeping water flowing properly

Bicknellski: etc

Bicknellski: ... so many little signs if you have read up on it

Bicknellski: you can tell immediately when any plant is having issues

Bicknellski: at any stage

DeadWeas1l: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.57899, Best ask: 29.60001, Bid-ask spread: 0.02102, Last trade: 29.60001, 24 hour volume: 31344.00259639, 24 hour low: 29.05809, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.61812

Bicknellski: color, leave shape, size etc

Bicknellski: some great books put out by US GOv

Bicknellski: on this stuff

assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.00999 = 0.0699 BTC [-]

Bicknellski: nope

Bicknellski: stay away from Durian

Bicknellski: gov books?

Bicknellski: hmmm let me see

Bicknellski: http://vric.ucdavis.edu/pdf/greenhouse_vegproduction.pdf

Bicknellski: check the bibliography

Bicknellski: Ontario

Bicknellski: is a great resource for

Bicknellski: info on farming

Bicknellski: particularly greenhouse

Bicknellski: also try state level

Bicknellski: Ohio NY

Bicknellski: etc

Bicknellski: Michigan

Bicknellski: and universities also put out free publications

Bicknellski: http://www.colostate.edu/Dept/CoopExt/Adams/gh/pdf/Intro_Hydroponics.pdf <-- nice little powerpoint on the key ideas you need to learn

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 610 @ 0.00063912 = 0.3899 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063939 = 2.7628 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5119 @ 0.0006394 = 3.2731 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1827 @ 0.00576725 = 10.5368 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0060899 = 3.045 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00609 = 2.1315 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5995 @ 0.0006394 = 3.8332 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17805 @ 0.00064089 = 11.411 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5095 @ 0.00064089 = 3.2653 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064221 = 3.2111 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00064223 = 4.6883 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4755 @ 0.0006436 = 3.0603 BTC [+]

assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.04001 = 0.08 BTC [+]

assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 4 @ 0.04 = 0.16 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11245 @ 0.0006436 = 7.2373 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7855 @ 0.00064361 = 5.0556 BTC [+]

Chaang-Noi: assbot only does the mpex exchange or all other exchanges just really dead?

Chaang-Noi: i say this as i see btctc.. never mind

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063258 = 2.7334 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12471 @ 0.00063234 = 7.8859 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5308 @ 0.00062979 = 3.3429 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006436 = 2.781 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2329 @ 0.00064361 = 1.499 BTC [+]

ThickAsThieves: assbot doesnt show Bitfunder

jurov: Chaang-Noi there's also havelock,, but not bitfunder yet

ThickAsThieves: nor LTCGlobal

jurov: nor cryptostocks

ThickAsThieves: ;;bc,stats

ThickAsThieves: that's a 5% jump in est % change in one day

ThickAsThieves: 5 point jump, to be clear

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062991 = 2.7218 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6493 @ 0.00062979 = 4.0892 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3786 @ 0.00062978 = 2.3843 BTC [-]

Chaang-Noi: stock trading seems slower now than 6 months ago?

kakobrekla: i think the btcusd ratio is getting all the attention currently

Chaang-Noi: ahh yeah

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3964 @ 0.00062978 = 2.4964 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11652 @ 0.00062951 = 7.3351 BTC [-]

Chaang-Noi: last second bids for asicminer here if anyone wants https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145333.20

Chaang-Noi: outbid already :)

Chaang-Noi: you dont have faith in asicminer?

abracadabra: i don't like paying someone else to do what i can do myself

Chaang-Noi: you can make asic chips?

abracadabra: ...

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3309 @ 0.0006364 = 2.1058 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1012 @ 0.0006364 = 0.644 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10288 @ 0.00063654 = 6.5487 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3498 @ 0.00062951 = 2.202 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062781 = 2.7128 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15915 @ 0.0006278 = 9.9914 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1066 @ 0.00062778 = 0.6692 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062802 = 2.7137 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4728 @ 0.00062778 = 2.9681 BTC [-]

kakobrekla: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.67889, Best ask: 29.67890, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 29.67889, 24 hour volume: 32569.09251823, 24 hour low: 29.31000, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.64323

kakobrekla: ;;calc 29.67/28.66

gribble: 1.03524075366

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.65001, Best ask: 29.67990, Bid-ask spread: 0.02989, Last trade: 29.65001, 24 hour volume: 32598.32500006, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.64408

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00062779 = 5.6187 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00062779 = 4.4259 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15406 @ 0.00062778 = 9.6716 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5644 @ 0.00062729 = 3.5404 BTC [-]

assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 99 @ 0.00619 = 0.6128 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8107 @ 0.00608999 = 49.3715 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 19905 @ 0.00609 = 121.2215 BTC [+]

kakobrekla: case you missed it

kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145640.0

deadweasel: urrency exchange using bitcoin?

deadweasel: *c

deadweasel: have you made any money there?

Chaang-Noi: wow i did not know you did that

Chaang-Noi: 1000x leverage, god damn, i would ahve shorted silver had i known

kakobrekla: ...

kakobrekla: never too low to sell, never too high to buy

Chaang-Noi: yeah, i dont have time now but i will look into it

kakobrekla: i have 500btc account with 1000 leverage, doesnt mean i go all in.

kakobrekla: u fail maffs.

kakobrekla: mebbe

kakobrekla: i can go short/long with ~6 lots with that, which is 0.6 MIO units

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006291 = 2.7183 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00062943 = 10.0709 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 729 @ 0.00062944 = 0.4589 BTC [+]

kakobrekla: you mean the opposite.

kakobrekla: rofl

kakobrekla: you forgot our convo from yesterday?

kakobrekla: not worth going into it if you forget so quickly

kakobrekla: wishing me luck for my personal trading? well thanks, what can i say.

kakobrekla: yes like you will make any real money with your silver sellfofs

kakobrekla: i back the exchange?

kakobrekla: where does it say that

kakobrekla: yes, i tell em to open 500btc account while i hold the funds

kakobrekla: they back it with their money

kakobrekla: you blow, i send them your btc

kakobrekla: you win, they send me more

kakobrekla: its a great way to pump more money into btc

kakobrekla: if we can get some serious earners

kakobrekla: (working on it) ;)

kakobrekla: you can

deadweasel: i think usagi wants physical silver....

deadweasel: not at all.

assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 13 @ 0.01 = 0.13 BTC [+]

deadweasel: i figured out we are at a low for the last 3 years in silver.

deadweasel: right?

jcpham: sell!

jcpham: bigh high!

jcpham: i am. sell low buy high!

deadweasel: I'm asking about historical data

kakobrekla: same shit goes for btc heheh

Chaang-Noi: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/18xoab/bfl_update_02202013_820_pst/

kakobrekla: last call

kakobrekla: http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/

kakobrekla: hehe

Chaang-Noi: yeah im well into that on the no

Chaang-Noi: i did well on the silver one, it paid like 24% right before it closed :)

Chaang-Noi: 124% rather

kakobrekla: :)

deadweasel: i have not watched it, nor do I know metals

deadweasel: I just knew it 2007 it was time to buy, so I did.

deadweasel: ;;slap deadweasel

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062803 = 2.7137 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61 @ 0.00062779 = 0.0383 BTC [-]

ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.50001, Best ask: 29.56999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06998, Last trade: 29.57498, 24 hour volume: 32461.92968870, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.64290

Chaang-Noi: ;;slap usagi

Chaang-Noi: lol

Chaang-Noi: wtf is an entrain anyway?

deadweasel: ;;slap Chaang-Noi

Chaang-Noi: sorry usagi i just wanted to see gribble hurt you, seems i failed

Chaang-Noi: im waiting to hear back from nefario or his lawyer

Chaang-Noi: i dont think he really had a lawyer

Chaang-Noi: i think he just paid some guy for a bit of advice...

Chaang-Noi: i did my lawyer tried to contact the lawyer he claimed he had, no responce

Chaang-Noi: meaning i dont think he was really acting for nefario like he claimed

Chaang-Noi: yeah, that is what im saying

Chaang-Noi: tempted to sell 100 btc :/

Chaang-Noi: hmm, i kick myself everytime i sell though...

Chaang-Noi: hey james

JWU_42: don't quite understand the bitbet

JWU_42: hrm

JWU_42: it says "customers"

JWU_42: that is plural

JWU_42: customers would also imply somone who has paid for said item

JWU_42: so if supplied gratis to a dev that counts?

JWU_42: or no

kakobrekla: not a customer, then no

JWU_42: so - the dev pays $1 - they are a customer?

kakobrekla: regular sixpack joe counts

JWU_42: this has the potential to get very sticky

kakobrekla: i dont think it will be any mess at all

kakobrekla: da wat?

ThickAsThieves: those justice bets probly have more holes in them than the BFL one

ThickAsThieves: bets where "if one of these 3 happen" are lame

kakobrekla: submit a better one, what is the problem?

jcpham: how do i access these btc-tc payouts i keep getting emailed about again

jcpham: i just created an account

Lethe: jcpham: see if you can find an email titled such as "BTC-TC New Account Created - Claim your [assetnamehere] shares!" it contains the account info for specified asset

jcpham: nothing like that i checked

jcpham: i contacted their support

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062929 = 2.0767 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: god i love shopping in this country.

kakobrekla: hmm

kakobrekla: can someone sell me 1 share of tu.silver here in otc gpg signed contract, you get keep holding the share for me

mircea_popescu: basically like a broker

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1021 @ 0.00062929 = 0.6425 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00062943 = 10.0709 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 529 @ 0.00062944 = 0.333 BTC [+]

kakobrekla: i give you an address?

kakobrekla: i thought you give me an address and i send you wahtever the ask is

deadweasel: that comes later

deadweasel: first he buy, then you send div. buy first!

kakobrekla: you can keep the divs going towards your 200 btc debt to me

kakobrekla: right.

kakobrekla: anywho address?

kakobrekla: deal.

kakobrekla: now i get to ask you questions.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062805 = 2.7138 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15939 @ 0.00062779 = 10.0063 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 390 @ 0.00062778 = 0.2448 BTC [-]

kakobrekla: first question; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.msg1546396#msg1546396

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the guy with the gold bars, galt or w/e... he has pix of the loot, serials and whatnot.

kakobrekla: i wanna see maffs

ThickAsThieves: http://jonmillward.com/blog/studies/deep-inside-a-study-of-10000-porn-stars/

mircea_popescu: dat title...

deadweasel: saw that, shorter careers, quicker anal

mircea_popescu: nice way of going about extracting a grant out of jacking off all day.

deadweasel: wish I'd thought about it first

ThickAsThieves: "Foxconn: Our hiring freeze has nothing to do with iPhone 5"

ThickAsThieves: tomorrow's headline will be Foxconn: Our hiring freeze has everything to do with iPhone 5

ThickAsThieves: cuz thats how all foxconn news goes

jurov: my outsider impression of porn industry is like everyone is utterly bored there

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062927 = 2.7191 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8579 @ 0.00062943 = 5.3999 BTC [+]

kakobrekla: yes

kakobrekla: always the problem of finitive amounts of holes to fuck

mircea_popescu: jurov not even that far off.

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.99 = 1.98 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: http://ro.stiri.yahoo.com/cna-fost-executat-silit-antena-3-pentru-plata-122221700.html

mircea_popescu: you won't be reading that cause it's in romanian, but!

mircea_popescu: the romanian FCC fined a local tv station.

mircea_popescu: tv station sued the fcc, and won.

mircea_popescu: court issued punitive damages

mircea_popescu: the FCC employees are now not receiving their pay because the FCC is being executed for the amount.

mircea_popescu: reasons to love romania.

ThickAsThieves: nice

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062786 = 2.713 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8229 @ 0.00062778 = 5.166 BTC [-]

deadweasel: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.77060, Best ask: 29.87777, Bid-ask spread: 0.10717, Last trade: 29.77060, 24 hour volume: 32710.64861839, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.87777, 24 hour vwap: 29.64796

kakobrekla: ok thanks usagi

kakobrekla: will see what dt says then ;)

markedathome: I see the farce that is glbse carries on - "lost the flash drive containing the gpg keys" ....

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 0.825 = 3.3 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5881 @ 0.00062778 = 3.692 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6116 @ 0.00062762 = 3.8385 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 924 @ 0.0006273 = 0.5796 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: markedathome eh ?! news to me. what's this ?

markedathome: mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1540424#msg1540424

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/why-love-romania-a-guide-for-the-us-citizen/

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00062908 = 2.0131 BTC [+]

assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 10 @ 0.0213 = 0.213 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1121 @ 0.00062908 = 0.7052 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7421 @ 0.00062943 = 4.671 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16208 @ 0.00062944 = 10.202 BTC [+]

ThickAsThieves: asicminer update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1546642#msg1546642

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2834 @ 0.00062944 = 1.7838 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063194 = 2.7306 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1879 @ 0.00063195 = 1.1874 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: "Self-mining is an option but not emergent plan. Besides having fluctuation and being the target for cyber attack, we do not want to be involved in voting with our portion of the network yet."

mircea_popescu: that sounds ominous enough.

kakobrekla: http://s2.postimage.org/okxft6fx5/2013_01_15_20_44_44.png

kakobrekla: rofl

kakobrekla: this is beyond retarded

deadweasel: pennybot pushing up

ThickAsThieves: i get uncomfortable just looking at micon

ThickAsThieves: nvm being heckled by him

markedathome: "... or other issues" -- yeah, he's being stalked by a troll...

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15421 @ 0.00063195 = 9.7453 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1964 @ 0.00063401 = 1.2452 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39350 @ 0.00063485 = 24.9813 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4865 @ 0.00063548 = 3.0916 BTC [+]

error4733: wow micon... thy dude is in a other galaxy

dub: All confirmation letters had been sent more than one month ago. Please check your spam folder if you did not find it. And please PM/mail me if you still could not.

dub: what does that mean

error4733: this*

dub: do you need to reply to that to confirm shares? the only email I got just said 'you have N shares'

deadweasel: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.90700, Best ask: 29.92700, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 29.92700, 24 hour volume: 33677.34763086, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.96800, 24 hour vwap: 29.66112

ThickAsThieves: so close

deadweasel: volume doesn't cut it. people will dump, backslide

deadweasel: but that's good too!

deadweasel: I don't get it, when does this rise end?

deadweasel: when a whale gets bored and dumps all?

deadweasel: it's not infinite....

error4733: yes is it

error4733: how genius whas satoshi omg

error4733: economy nobel the day he'll come back

dub: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144622.0 this is kinda concerning

dub: does mircea_popescu really think the only kind of trading is 'hoard forever' or is -pr off meds

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063027 = 2.7234 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14666 @ 0.00063006 = 9.2405 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00062836 = 1.6966 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15076 @ 0.0006273 = 9.4572 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25137 @ 0.00062729 = 15.7682 BTC [-]

dub: regardless you would have to be brain dead to buy g.mpoe

dub: which I crecall being a key feature of past DT enterprises

dub: srsly, quoting from the same post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144622.msg1542790#msg1542790

dub: "Arbitrage is a healthy thing for the market it brings down the spread and it's part of the free market hence I encourage it. I arbitrage when I see that the spreads are great and hence causes problems for people who want to sell/buy the shares."

dub: "This is some of the arguments which were used against Erik when he issued more shares, You are arguieing out of a speculation point of view, this is not investing but gambling. "

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062752 = 2.7115 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5379 @ 0.00062729 = 3.3742 BTC [-]

dub: "For a investor the short term market price should not matter other then as a way to buy or sell at that price, as long as the underlying assets are the same a investor should not see a problem with issuing more shares."

dub: the first quote sounds like he's going to 'arbitrage' his own passthrough

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2650 @ 0.00597198 = 15.8257 BTC [-]

ThickAsThieves: isnt that what he does?

jborkl: That is what all market makers do, they scalp the difference. What is the problem?

dub: he controls the market

dub: he can add new stock at any time

ThickAsThieves: it says that on the labe

ThickAsThieves: l

jborkl: You can buy from mpex then

dub: yes, it does

ThickAsThieves: Asset Name G.SDICE

ThickAsThieves: Asset Issuer DeaDTerra

ThickAsThieves: Issuer may Increase Shares: Yes, without vote.

dub: its not a bad model really, make up a bunch of really shitty vehicles that outright steal from investors, sit back and profit from the endless supply of retards

ThickAsThieves: are you trolling?

dub: no

jborkl: Don't be a cheap ass and buy from mpex then

dub: jborkl: derp

ThickAsThieves: i'll make one comment. if you don't like it, don't buy it.

dub: double derp

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.699 BTC [-]

dub: whats scary is when someone shows up to pick it apart mircea_popescu rides in on his white horse to defend DT

assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00064 = 0.64 BTC [-]

assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00063 = 0.63 BTC [-]

assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00063 = 0.063 BTC [-]

jurov: i converted some stuff into G.SDICE and wait for opportunity

jurov: since i noticed DT often lags and ask side dries up completely

jurov: cuz he is doing it seriously u know. no filthy arbitration

jurov: *G.MPOE i mean

dub: im not saying he has but he's left the door open

ThickAsThieves: can someone buy shares on a passthru, and then afterwards buy an MPEX account and have those shares converted into the new MPEX account?

jurov: yes, DT allows that.

ThickAsThieves: fees?

ThickAsThieves: or just a gentlemanly tip?

jurov: free. but if you try to move there and back often he can refuse it.

ThickAsThieves: ;;bc,stats

deadweasel: Don't buy assets. BTC is risky enough.

deadweasel: my two cents, worth very little

Namworld: Well it's two cent...

jurov: you'll get swayed eventually.. better do it with proper research

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00062774 = 6.3402 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 946 @ 0.00062729 = 0.5934 BTC [-]

deadweasel: well I did it, now I'm stuck with a few thousand SDICE shares that nobody wants.

deadweasel: because I did before erik decided to dump another 2 milliion or so

assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00062 = 0.62 BTC [-]

assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00062 = 0.062 BTC [-]

assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3900 @ 0.00062 = 2.418 BTC [-]

topace: mircea_popescu: you there ?

mircea_popescu: topace yea

topace: excellent.. got a question for you regarding the PUSH receipts...

mircea_popescu: shoot

topace: is it possible to get a UNIQUE identifier added to it ?

mircea_popescu: they are already unique, just hash them

topace: so i could, say, accept a pasted receipt into my website as a single-use receipt, to automatically credit an account

topace: wouldnt an identical push of an identical number of units from identical fingerprint to identical fingerprint have identical receipts (and thus, identical hashes?)

mircea_popescu: nope.

mircea_popescu: think about it, they're gpg signed

dub: deadweasel: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3t355y/

mircea_popescu: if you pgp-sign the same exact message ten million times you won't get a collision

topace: hmmm

topace: so a hash of the whole receipt could be my unique identifier, to prevent people from double-posting receipts (and trying to get double the units pushed)

topace: just trying to figure out a way to let others do mpex<-->havelock arbitrage automatically

Namworld: don't forget that people might not have correct formatting when copying their receipt.

topace: Namworld: then they are stupid

topace: :p

topace: if they dont format it right, it'll just reject it

Namworld: I have to clean up mines for the signature to become valid.

mircea_popescu: topace just make sure somewhere in tyhere you actually check the sig is valid mpex.

mircea_popescu: that will do the checking too.

Namworld: Because the windows command line doesn't display the same as MPEx return

Namworld: I must change spacings into actual tabs in notepad++

mircea_popescu: anyway, the auto-crediting of pushes is a very good idea

Namworld: copying the command line gives you spaces instead of tabs.

mircea_popescu: will bridge situations where mopex price moves and you're not around quite nicely, plus it decentralizes. so ++.

topace: yup

topace: so to verify the sig is valid, AND is signed by mpex, im just looking for the DSA Key ID to match?

topace: gpg: Signature made Wed 20 Feb 2013 01:32:34 PM EST using DSA key ID F1B69921

topace: gpg: Good signature from "MP Stock Exchange (Visit http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/) <office@polimedia.us>"

topace: so im just looking for a) "DSA Key ID F1B69921" and b) "Good signature"

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14379 @ 0.00063467 = 9.1259 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: topace yeah

mircea_popescu: if it says it's a good signature by MPEx key you're golden.

mircea_popescu: also, make sure you read this : http://trilema.com/2013/new-mpex-key/

mircea_popescu: Namworld is that a /n vs /r/n issue ?

thestringpuller: Namworld: will you be around tonight?

topace: ahh switching your key eh?

mircea_popescu: well it expires

topace: so as im writing this, i should accept both F1B69921 and CFE0F3E1 that way things wont break because i forget to change my end on March 10th :p

Namworld: thestringpuller: is there some event happening or you'll just need me for something?

mircea_popescu: topace prolly should at least keep[ an eye for new key.

mircea_popescu: implementation details left to the exchange owner :)

topace: indeed :) thanks.. this is gonna be awesome :)

mircea_popescu: :)

dub: !tickr m s.dice

dub: !ticker m s.dice

assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00562811 / 0.0060087 / 0.00609 (40513 shares, 243.43 BTC), 7D: 0.00562811 / 0.00635651 / 0.0069 (1414456 shares, 8,991.00 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00592989 / 0.0075 (7769457 shares, 46,072.05 BTC)

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00063544 = 1.3662 BTC [+]

ThickAsThieves: SCAMMER

ThickAsThieves: :)

Namworld: He doesn't like walls that compete with his sale offers maybe? =P

dub: nothing to do with the threat of unannounced dumping by the issuer?

deadweasel: ^

ThickAsThieves: Deadterra, I was joking about an earlier complaint from dub

ThickAsThieves: he doesn't like that you control your own passthru

dub: I didn't say its a scam, just a shitty investment

deadweasel: sounds more like he doesn't like unannounced dumping.

deadweasel: i take unannounced dumps all the time, just not on other people.

dub: yes and any sane investors unfomfortability

ThickAsThieves: dub: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+a+joke

deadweasel: later!

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4821 @ 0.00063467 = 3.0597 BTC [-]

ThickAsThieves: if you are actively arbing then the price stays more realistic anyway

ThickAsThieves: i think dub's soreness stems from erik's 3mil share dump

ThickAsThieves: probably waiting for shares to reach .0075 again

kakobrekla: so this is lookin fleasible now http://bitbet.us/bet/113/bitbet-will-we-worth-more-than-satoshi-dice/

kakobrekla: hihi.

dub: I think ThickAsThieves is getting defensive about his investments

ThickAsThieves: dub, i'm invested all over the place

ThickAsThieves: it's all good

ThickAsThieves: all money made from investing

ThickAsThieves: kako, we'll see hot bbet divs look next then ;)

ThickAsThieves: hot=how

Namworld: My MPEx PTs on BTCT.co are 225% better than other MPEx PTs according to flawed studies I sponsored...

Namworld: I guess the volumes are OK

Namworld: We have comparable volume for S.DICE on BTCT.co

Namworld: not monthly tho

Namworld: aye

thestringpuller: anyone here have lawyers at their disposal?

Namworld: I'm off for lunch

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6079 @ 0.00063169 = 3.84 BTC [-]

topace: !ticker h sdice

assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.69900000 / 0.7085 / 0.71800000 (2 shares, 1.41700000 BTC), 7D: 0.66000000 / 0.70371784 / 0.75900000 (1380 shares, 971.13062090 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.6615484 / 0.89000000 (11276 shares, 7459.61979386 BTC)

topace: havelock has pretty good sdice volume

topace: not today though :p lol

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.69 = 2.07 BTC [-]

assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00065 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2171 @ 0.00063544 = 1.3795 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16949 @ 0.00063548 = 10.7708 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00063548 = 2.0971 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 989 @ 0.00063274 = 0.6258 BTC [-]

Namworld: "Seems like a huge risk to both sides with so many assets."

jurov: so, some vocal members want to small block size as a leverage to get off-blockchain methods developed quicker

Namworld: Can someone explain me how having 1 passthrough for each MPEx stock suddenly makes more risk appear out of thin air than if I had only one?

Namworld: I don't get the why of that anonymous' vote