assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9348 @ 0.00066034 = 6.1729 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1681 @ 0.0006595 = 1.1086 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 953 @ 0.00067536 = 0.6436 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1847 @ 0.00067683 = 1.2501 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00067132 = 3.4909 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3316 @ 0.00067201 = 2.2284 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1884 @ 0.00067682 = 1.2751 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00067132 = 5.8405 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.71 = 1.42 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2153 @ 0.00067132 = 1.4454 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 647 @ 0.00067131 = 0.4343 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.725 = 1.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00067682 = 2.3689 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00067131 = 2.9538 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00067682 = 1.8274 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5503 @ 0.00067131 = 3.6942 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3438 @ 0.00066492 = 2.286 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3801 @ 0.00067682 = 2.5726 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1441 @ 0.00066492 = 0.9581 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.81116, Best ask: 26.99895, Bid-ask spread: 0.18779, Last trade: 26.81115, 24 hour volume: 28146.94767573, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 27.14800, 24 hour vwap: 26.77014
DeadWeasel: volume 'steady' at 28,000. I wonder what that includes
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.00512, Best ask: 27.00614, Bid-ask spread: 0.00102, Last trade: 27.00614, 24 hour volume: 36837.64498059, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 27.43194, 24 hour vwap: 26.88400
Bowjob: i give them my money so they can invest it
BitHub: banks, paypal, never ends
Bowjob: they wont even answer my call
Bowjob: btw I was able to secure Avalon no 2
Bowjob: trying to replace the spent coins
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.11979 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2471 @ 0.00066492 = 1.643 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00066116 = 5.2562 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7179 @ 0.00065992 = 4.7376 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00066693 = 6.636 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00067682 = 1.0829 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.08596 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 9 @ 0.00068 = 0.0061 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.55000, Best ask: 27.59900, Bid-ask spread: 0.04900, Last trade: 27.59900, 24 hour volume: 47556.91667849, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 27.60000, 24 hour vwap: 27.02661
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 23 hours, 53 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
thestringpuller: no in general I want to put out a bounty for mircea_popescu and see how many bounty hunters come forth
kakobrekla: first sign a message with key holding 1k btc
gribble: Current Blocks: 221932 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1843 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 12 hours, 27 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4156078.98122 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.83363
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.51000, Best ask: 27.77000, Bid-ask spread: 0.26000, Last trade: 27.50000, 24 hour volume: 50030.24095015, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 27.77000, 24 hour vwap: 27.05526
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.63282, Best ask: 27.98430, Bid-ask spread: 0.35148, Last trade: 27.98430, 24 hour volume: 51414.05905568, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 27.98430, 24 hour vwap: 27.07812
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.68020, Best ask: 27.78485, Bid-ask spread: 0.10465, Last trade: 27.78486, 24 hour volume: 51511.72136611, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 27.98430, 24 hour vwap: 27.07960
Namworld: People will at last get their 33ish something =/
dub: who was it here that bought in at $32?
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.04011 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.66000, Best ask: 27.69987, Bid-ask spread: 0.03987, Last trade: 27.66000, 24 hour volume: 52255.95488875, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 27.98430, 24 hour vwap: 27.09083
rxw: would anybody be interested in purchasing my remaining shares of ASICMINER?
rxw: I only have 76 shares left
rxw: I'm looking to sell at .4
rxw: I haven't been as active as I used to be, pirate's pretty much fled the community right
Chaang-Noi: 21:32:36 <+amphipod> Feb19 02:32:15 mtgox x117 2,494.8955 @ 27.9846635 USD
Chaang-Noi: i think you can find a buyer at .4 if you look for a while
Chaang-Noi: pirate logs onto the forum from time to time
rxw: there's an auction that started at that price, I'm confident the shares are worth that much, unfortunately I'm not as confident about the short-term prospects of bitcoin's price :[
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 485 @ 0.00065992 = 0.3201 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10819 @ 0.0006595 = 7.1351 BTC [-]
dub: Chaang-Noi: did you read about pirate supposedly being in Thailand?
Chaang-Noi: bcb would not tell me the hotel where so i could no go check
Bowjob: if you found pirate what would you do?
dub: I'd cut little bits off him till he gave up wallet
Bowjob: I got no beef with pirate, I haven't really fell for his scam
Bowjob: it woulda been nice to ride his ponzi and cash out before he shuts it down though
dub: I've got no beef either but its not like he's gonna go to the cops
Bowjob: if I see him here in vancouver id keep tabs on him
Bowjob: get a $$$ reward for his info
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.69880001 = 6.988 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.71173, Best ask: 27.97757, Bid-ask spread: 0.26584, Last trade: 27.97922, 24 hour volume: 59300.63225777, 24 hour low: 26.36268, 24 hour high: 28.00000, 24 hour vwap: 27.19648
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7596 @ 0.00065948 = 5.0094 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00066072 = 3.8322 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4515 @ 0.00067682 = 3.0558 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4389 @ 0.00067683 = 2.9706 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29752 @ 0.0006563 = 19.5262 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.54000, Best ask: 27.54999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 27.54000, 24 hour volume: 71099.00472553, 24 hour low: 26.48000, 24 hour high: 28.21686, 24 hour vwap: 27.44215
mircea_popescu: new rule "if from contains amazonses.com discard message".
lyspooner: there any montreal people around this joint?
Chaang-Noi: Breaking related news. BFL will ship a few this month maybe but only if all goes well. lol.
jurov: mtogxlive shows a gap, indeed
jurov: interesting thought - if mtgox fell flat like in 2011, would price get up or down?
gribble: DeaDTerra was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 17 hours, 1 minute, and 16 seconds ago: <DeaDTerra> 2200 Ghash ^^ go ASICMINER!
gribble: DeaDTerra1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 5 days, 17 hours, 36 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <DeaDTerra1> so the purchaser breaks the law not the provider
Chaang-Noi: bfl has 6000 chips that they hope to ship by june... this means even at best they will only ship out 27 TH? wont asicminer at 62TH kill them?
Chaang-Noi: yeah but if you have 80% of the gpus...
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.40000, Best ask: 28.62899, Bid-ask spread: 0.22899, Last trade: 28.63000, 24 hour volume: 78935.86425330, 24 hour low: 26.48000, 24 hour high: 28.72649, 24 hour vwap: 27.55929
Chaang-Noi: but did i do my math right, bfl can only have 26 th at best, and asicminer odds are will ahve 62th?
Chaang-Noi: that means asicminer will ahve like 70% of the network and like 1.5 btc per share just in the first year?
Chaang-Noi: bfl only has 6000 chips, each chip can only do 60 ghash
ThickAsThieves: and the value of BTC will keep GPU miners in the game longer
Chaang-Noi: i did not loan money to bfl so i really hope they fail
Chaang-Noi: yeah.. i quit doing that after pirate lol
DeadWeasel: It will, Gwern's SilkRoad/BTC article was on Hacker News later last night.
DeadWeasel: Pluss Reddit for Reddit gold plus Mega resellers
DeadWeasel: can't watch any at work. i need that script that saves all urls in a log.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.41552, Best ask: 28.56999, Bid-ask spread: 0.15447, Last trade: 28.56999, 24 hour volume: 79333.36692833, 24 hour low: 26.48000, 24 hour high: 28.74018, 24 hour vwap: 27.57128
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.40001, Best ask: 28.49998, Bid-ask spread: 0.09997, Last trade: 28.40000, 24 hour volume: 79717.09388889, 24 hour low: 26.48000, 24 hour high: 28.74018, 24 hour vwap: 27.57592
DeadWeasel: ok, great. i sent it to my email so I can watch when I get home.
jurov: we'll mine asteroids for silver should that happen
DeadWeasel: chinease peasants already burn old computers for the metals. it's a very healthy profession.
DeadWeasel: big ask walls went up all the way to 30
Chaang-Noi: usagi i agree with you but the 50x is a bit too high, wont happen 1/10 ratio is the best we will ever see in our life times is my guess
Chaang-Noi: silver has only gone over gold in recent history once and that was for 1 year in spain like 600 years ago
Chaang-Noi: gold has that marketing thing going :)
Chaang-Noi: and even if there is more gold above dound, that gold is stored in giant safes, the silver is floating, the real market is much higher with silver
Chaang-Noi: my sister had gold on her wedding cake
Chaang-Noi: i dont know, but i shat gold the next day...
Guest55650: usagi how much coin did you melt into silver
Chaang-Noi: yeah im selling silver to get btc/ltc :)
pigeons: who is suprised that usagi mails his shit?
kakobrekla: usagi there are many of them note the 's'
kakobrekla: i always assumed it was a borg kinda thing
kakobrekla: whre only 1 connection is needed for all of the fleet
jurov: hi kakobrekla, where's assbot?
jurov: with whom? gribble's here
jurov: evil is not evil. it's cool.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 15 @ 0.99 = 14.85 BTC [-]
jurov: like, i'm big miner, i'll mine gigabyte block, now 15% of network can't process it and drops off, so i have 15% more part of network
jurov: no it does NOT work that way
gribble: Current Blocks: 222013 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1762 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 3 hours, 38 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
jurov: one must take into account the block must be propagated successfully first
jurov: centralization of what?
jurov: all actors are strongly motivated to keep own copy of blockchain and thus control
TomServo: usagi: could you resend the link you mentioned regarding silver?
jurov: i will store it.. why not?
jurov: i'll buy bigger hdd for 30 bucks
jurov: obviously, we'll get some king of tiered storage once things go into petabytes
jurov: i don;t understaid it either... the "centralized" word lost a meaning completely by now
jurov: truffles, what alteration?
jurov: look, right now petabyte suitable for blockchain can be got for under $100k... and that's negligible sum for medium and large enterprises
pigeons: truffles: those are seperate networks, different geneseis block, different chain, different rules,
jurov: and there are plenty of them... so what fear of centralization?
jurov: they'll buy just few less luxury cars
jurov: as i wrote there, it's strawman argument
jurov: wao, dunno... i have cpu-generated addy myself with 6chars prefix in ~12 hours, didn't need more
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00064975 = 2.3716 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00064927 = 2.0452 BTC [-]
wao: just testing, 4 char prefix did in few minutes..
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1919 @ 0.00675812 = 12.9688 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3279 @ 0.00675813 = 22.1599 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00675813 = 13.5163 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14361 @ 0.00064927 = 9.3242 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6439 @ 0.00064882 = 4.1778 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.713 = 2.852 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.712 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.712 = 5.696 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.711 = 4.977 BTC [-]
pigeons: it will decrease variance of payouts for that person at the cost of less overall expected payout
DeadWeasel: it's not, you get small regular payments instead of large irregular payments
pigeons: the miner will liekly get less bitcoins over time, but will consistently get them, instead of waiting perhaps years to get a block soloing
pigeons: their are several different pooled mining "payout schemes", such as PPS, PPLNS, etc, but all intend to distribute the reward amoung the contributing miners
pigeons: your statement is missing a few clarifications
pigeons: what is "it"? beneficial for whom?
pigeons: well most asic miners are using pools and plan to use pools
pigeons: the reduction of variance from pooled mining has been seen to be "beneficial", even up to particularly high fees
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0065 BTC [+]
pigeons: most people can't afford to wait to get paid
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3711 @ 0.00064882 = 2.4078 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27140 @ 0.00064881 = 17.6087 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4753 @ 0.00064827 = 3.0812 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00064791 = 1.2958 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2296 @ 0.0006479 = 1.4876 BTC [-]
gribble: yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
gribble: Current Blocks: 219933 | Current Difficulty: 3275464.5865656 | Next Difficulty At Block: 221759 | Next Difficulty In: 1826 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: None | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3471274.16583 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.97807
gribble: Current Blocks: 222023 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1752 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 19 hours, 33 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.50607, Best ask: 28.61999, Bid-ask spread: 0.11392, Last trade: 28.63999, 24 hour volume: 81890.72501130, 24 hour low: 26.50126, 24 hour high: 28.80000, 24 hour vwap: 27.67701
kakobrekla: i dunno where you saw any reversal to buy in
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2808 @ 0.0006479 = 1.8193 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.0006479 = 10.3664 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1932 @ 0.00064702 = 1.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2393 @ 0.00065 = 1.5555 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00065 = 10.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1107 @ 0.00065476 = 0.7248 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [-]
DeadWeasel: bitcoin-24 is selling BTC for $49.....
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.3499 = 3.499 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00656792 = 3.284 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 16734.788 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 495932.871704 USD in total.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.67003, Best ask: 28.70001, Bid-ask spread: 0.02998, Last trade: 28.67003, 24 hour volume: 82585.74381659, 24 hour low: 26.51111, 24 hour high: 28.80000, 24 hour vwap: 27.69537
DeadWeasel: we are going to break 30, then dumps? I feel ike this will continue
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.66001, Best ask: 28.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03999, Last trade: 28.66001, 24 hour volume: 82348.64395440, 24 hour low: 26.51111, 24 hour high: 28.80000, 24 hour vwap: 27.69866
gribble: There are currently 18047.941 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 535258.979966 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 25453.538 bitcoins offered at or under 32.0 USD, worth 765696.717139 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 35652.494 bitcoins demanded at or over 25.0 USD, worth 945268.073271 USD in total.
Chaang-Noi: i wonder if i should go troll the silver bugs :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00065475 = 6.5475 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.66002, Best ask: 28.98999, Bid-ask spread: 0.32997, Last trade: 28.99000, 24 hour volume: 83374.63524858, 24 hour low: 26.51111, 24 hour high: 28.99000, 24 hour vwap: 27.71985
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00065476 = 2.2917 BTC [+]
Bowjob: bug, dice isnt going to 0.02xx
Bugpowder: Was I right about dice revenue or noot
Bugpowder: it has been ~130BTC / day since I posted.
Bowjob: yes but the dice isnt going to 0.002 BTC ea
Bugpowder: NOw, if the market chooses to support S.DICE at .0065 with 4k of monthly revenue, my pricing model was wrong
Bugpowder: The model was based on people paying .0075 for 20k of revenue
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder you know s.mpoe made like 500 one month nobody sold
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00064703 = 6.4703 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12393 @ 0.00064702 = 8.0185 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00064637 = 8.2089 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17407 @ 0.00064608 = 11.2463 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: My puts are so far underwater I don't give a fuck
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C220T] 3 @ 0.20577298 = 0.6173 BTC [+]
gribble: Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
gribble: There are currently 572.03788 bitcoins offered at or under 29.0 USD, worth 16588.4874127 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 25.127303 bitcoins offered at or under 28.99 USD, worth 728.190520058 USD in total.
Bowjob: sometimes I wonder if I can make monies with 200 BTC on mpex
Chaang-Noi: id play at mpex if the accounts were free
Bowjob: chang, you have vip status on btctalk, not sure why you dont have mpex
thestringpuller: do you know much about cellular science? like neuron science?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10761 @ 0.00065476 = 7.0459 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8789 @ 0.00066666 = 5.8593 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: yea she had a few questions activation functions, thresholds, etc
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.76058, Best ask: 28.87997, Bid-ask spread: 0.11939, Last trade: 28.76058, 24 hour volume: 85806.98253922, 24 hour low: 26.51111, 24 hour high: 29.00000, 24 hour vwap: 27.75976
DeadWeasel: hit 30, somebody dumps 3k, makes sense
Bugpowder: thestringpuller: Office hours are closed, if its quick I can answer it, but no time for a lengthy response
Chaang-Noi: Bowjob i turned down a free account at mpex, at the time i did not think it would take off. id not turn it down now, but i wont pay, lol
gribble: 1 BTC = 29.00000 U.S. dollars = 21.6773808 Euros
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder basically big deal, you got set back to early jan
Bugpowder: I am trying to take the position of now I'm just protecting my USD gains
gribble: Current Blocks: 222032 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1743 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 7 hours, 31 minutes, and 35 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
DeadWeasel: silk road gwern article is back up on hacker news front page again!
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C210T] 3 @ 0.24356304 = 0.7307 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: This article was commissioned by Bitcoin Weekly, which ultimately decided to not run it1; it is based on my experiences May-June 2011
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00656793 = 13.1359 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: seriously, the bitcoin detractor bunch has some bullshit written 18 months ago and is still rehashing it ?
gribble: 1 BTC = 29.10998 U.S. dollars = 869.811456 Thai baht
gribble: 1 BTC = Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
DeadWeasel: it gives the history and implications and a how-to guide.
DeadWeasel: I think it's great. You want more people using BTC, silk road and satoshi dice are the attractice parts.
DeadWeasel: only if you can't buy it with dollars does the average person look to bitcoin
mircea_popescu: it gives a rehash of history that might have been interesting in 2011
mircea_popescu: the "implications" are nonsense, and the how-to guide is out of date
DeadWeasel: is not banal to newcomers and those with an interest, which would be anybody who's just figured out this thing exists
DeadWeasel: i wouldn't be here without that article in it's original form, I have gotten several old friends in because of it. It was the only one of it's kind back then.
DeadWeasel: the only way to grasp what was going on.
DeadWeasel: for somebody who did not already know.
mircea_popescu: however, beating the old cyberpunk + silkroad horse is getting old.
mircea_popescu: 1. whatever subculture thinks is related to bitcoin is wrong.
mircea_popescu: 2. silkroad is a vanishingly irrelevant application of bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: while its true bitcoin serves it exceedinly well, it's untrue that this is representative for bitcoin.
DeadWeasel: mircea_popescu: you're awfully full of your perceptions this morning.
DeadWeasel: well I'm glad you're having an ON day.
DeadWeasel: but SR and the implications are a taproot and continue to supply new blood.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, it's like insisting icecreamtrucks are particularly relevant to automotive industry.
DeadWeasel: we don't have solid numbers, so we are both ass-flapping
mircea_popescu: sure, it makes icecream trucks, which are the only practical way to deliver icecream
DeadWeasel: ice cream trucks aren't, but police cruisers are.
DeadWeasel: the first ford model A was very important
DeadWeasel: it was, it's more like a VW passenger van now, dropping off new inductees to the bitcoin shark-tank
DeadWeasel: is coingenuity an admin? does this place have mods?
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00615 = 0.0615 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: BFL: If all goes well we will ship the first units this month. Those are the orders made last June. If you order now, because of the backlog of orders, you may not get your order until May or June of this year.
kakobrekla: nothing ever goes well, dont ya fuckin know it already.
Chilca: kakobrekla: how do you know they probably will ship this month?
Chilca: I'll loose my money :)
Chilca: so stupid, next time I'll buy S.dice instead.
mircea_popescu: yeah, mining equipment is not yet buyable i dont think
Chilca: mircea_popescu: if you pay 30k you can buy it.
Chilca: the problem is when are they going to ship it
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5202 @ 0.00067 = 3.4853 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.751 BTC [+]
Chilca: and maybe they are going to send it
Chilca: We paid them 4 months ago.
mircea_popescu: i think this is literally the only place on earth where people prepay.
kakobrekla: but they had pre chip costs, like fans and souch
Chilca: I understand that, but it's not serious that we pay and they don't say an exact date.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00673703 = 2.6948 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00673704 = 13.4741 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00673705 = 8.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.711 = 14.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 24 @ 0.71 = 17.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.705 = 3.525 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.703 = 2.109 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.701 = 5.608 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00675 = 15.525 BTC [+]
coingenuity: mircea_popescu: yeah, its actively keywording
pigeons: if he can teach a program to irc he won't have to
DeadWeasel: that would save you hours of time mircea_popescu
Chaang-Noi: btc was over that lol, just not at the same time
DeadWeasel: think usagi has something with his silver hedging?
pigeons: parity when an arbitrary unit of measure in one thing equals the same arbitrary digit worth of unit in another arbitrary unit of measure
DeadWeasel: if it's arbitrarily profitable is the question
Chaang-Noi: i can now go to the silver bugs and goo neener neener neener....
Bowjob: anyone here think bfl wont ship their stuff this feb?
Chaang-Noi: they might get one or two units out the first week of marh
Bowjob: im thinking of that big bet on bitbet
Bowjob: maybe sneak in a ninja bet before they close
Bowjob: doesnt look like theyll ship
Bowjob: I'll dump a few btc just before it closes
Bowjob: im almost certain they wont ship it.. but im being prudent
Bowjob: doesnt matter if its a certain outcome
Bowjob: im just waiting for another BFL josh delay
Bowjob: then its all free money after that
pigeons: bfl is waiting to see when to ship based on how much money they can make betting
DeadWeasel: you win the same amount if you bet months ago versus today?
Bowjob: but it doesnt matter, the risk is less and less
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00065582 = 7.2468 BTC [-]
Bowjob: you before it ends, sneak in a couple of btcs
Bowjob: i cursory look over bfl forums have josh saying he didnt hear from the bumping facility
DeadWeasel: no way is one delivered in the next 12 days.
Bowjob: so is my idea good? ninja bet on that on no at the end
mircea_popescu: if you bet 1 btc at 10k weight you will get 1/10 of what someone would betting 1 btc at 100k weight
Chaang-Noi: i bet 7, i wonder if i will get 9 when i win
Bowjob: josh is saying he'll ship this feb
Chaang-Noi: he can ship in feb and bet still is lost
Bowjob: someone bet 500 in yes
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi it's a little over even, so if your weight is at least 13k then yes
mircea_popescu: they bet right at the time people were pointing out on forum
Chaang-Noi: Current weight: 4`698 ( from 100`000 to 1 )
mircea_popescu: so that'd be about 5% of the winnings of an origianl btc. like 1.05 or w/e
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00675 = 33.75 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: 1Hz5FxwF5XYk1Emqf43Q2Vo5uUzqb7BhtM
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.705 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.701 = 1.402 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.689 = 6.201 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.6880001 = 6.192 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 27 @ 0.686 = 18.522 BTC [-]
gribble: evoorhees was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 19 hours, 34 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <evoorhees> perfect
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00675 = 33.75 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: 1Hz5FxwF5XYk1Emqf43Q2Vo5uUzqb7BhtM
ThickAsThieves: nah, I just had some sdice issues and noticed he was mia
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.686 = 6.86 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.685 = 1.37 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: turns out my issue are probably just a borked wallet in satoshi client
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.681 = 10.215 BTC [-]
Bowjob: thats all time high for good
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.68100000 / 0.7063588 / 0.75100000 (500 shares, 353.17940050 BTC), 7D: 0.68000000 / 0.72236295 / 0.75900000 (1089 shares, 786.65325357 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.65852069 / 0.89000000 (11020 shares, 7256.89796546 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00638721 / 0.00678696 / 0.0069 (56633 shares, 384.37 BTC), 7D: 0.00598092 / 0.00637291 / 0.0069 (269728 shares, 1,718.95 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00584452 / 0.0075 (6663734 shares, 38,946.36 BTC)
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.66001, Best ask: 28.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03999, Last trade: 28.66001, 24 hour volume: 89315.22714423, 24 hour low: 26.59111, 24 hour high: 29.20000, 24 hour vwap: 27.83974
gribble: Current Blocks: 222040 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1735 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 7 hours, 51 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
Bowjob: I was about to buy 7k worth of apple shares
topace: wow havelock sdice 24h volume is almost same as mpex sdice 24h volume
Bowjob: good thing the brokerage fee was effing high
ThickAsThieves: i went heavier on goog at like half this price luckily, i am down a fair amount from apple tho...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 23 @ 0.68 = 15.64 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00656793 = 6.5679 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00064609 = 10.3374 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 884 @ 0.00064608 = 0.5711 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00064574 = 4.4233 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25239 @ 0.00064548 = 16.2913 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00064362 = 4.4088 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00064 = 1.92 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 28.75511, Best ask: 29.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24489, Last trade: 29.00000, 24 hour volume: 90437.91974337, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.20000, 24 hour vwap: 27.86604
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C270T] 1000 @ 0.08449039 = 84.4904 BTC
Bowjob: so, 30 dollars by end of this week?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00656793 = 2.6272 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00656792 = 3.9408 BTC [-]
DeadWeasel: another psychological barrier, especially after this quick rise from 20
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C260T] 1000 @ 0.11217576 = 112.1758 BTC
Bowjob: I the btc-e people were qqing about it
DeadWeasel: lots will be ready to dump I think, assuming 2011 bubble pop
Bowjob: wont they dump on 29 then
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C250T] 1000 @ 0.14430512 = 144.3051 BTC
topace: good thing cavirtex has stop-limit orders now.. i can place stop-loss orders and not worry about the big crash
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.22013, Best ask: 29.27000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04987, Last trade: 29.22013, 24 hour volume: 91521.57584689, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.39999, 24 hour vwap: 27.88963
mod6: HOW ARE YOU GENTLEMEN
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.22013, Best ask: 29.35283, Bid-ask spread: 0.13270, Last trade: 29.22013, 24 hour volume: 92639.08839484, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.50000, 24 hour vwap: 27.90838
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C250T] 1000 @ 0.14597395 = 145.974 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.51000, Best ask: 29.55000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 29.55000, 24 hour volume: 92840.17098132, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.55000, 24 hour vwap: 27.91427
Bowjob: so it reached parity today?
kakobrekla: my quote for silver is 29.460 aks curretnly
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0064 = 0.0128 BTC [+]
Bowjob: whats silvers spot price
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.27001, Best ask: 29.39999, Bid-ask spread: 0.12998, Last trade: 29.27001, 24 hour volume: 92826.40266463, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.55000, 24 hour vwap: 27.92089
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00674199 = 13.484 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.691 = 1.382 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.69 = 12.42 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.31001, Best ask: 29.48987, Bid-ask spread: 0.17986, Last trade: 29.48987, 24 hour volume: 93237.04374245, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.55000, 24 hour vwap: 27.93089
jurov: as if it wanted to go 30 tonight
Bugpowder: every afternoon they email my friend saying they sold out all their coins available for the day.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.45001, Best ask: 29.48999, Bid-ask spread: 0.03998, Last trade: 29.48999, 24 hour volume: 94344.71113133, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.55000, 24 hour vwap: 27.95419
jurov: why can't they just raise price?
jurov: if i understand correctly, they follow mtgox?
jurov: then they end up buying btc on mtgox at higher price, no?
pigeons: yeah they lose a little on each sale but they make it up on volume
jurov: how can they "make it up on volume"?
mircea_popescu: the only btc thing to take ycombinator funds, the only btc thing to sorta suck ?
Bowjob: forget about bitcoins, lets look for that meteorite and get rich!!
gribble: diablo-d3 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 hours, 18 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <Diablo-D3> its a cat grin
jurov: prolly diablo went to look for it
Bowjob: its in russia.. we gotta wear sum coats
pigeons: "we aren't an exchange. we're a sucky web wallet that keeps your private key serverside. but no one uses us as a wallet they use us as an exchange for a certain type of customer. but really we're a wallet."
Bowjob: russian winter is quite nasty
Bowjob: if we look for the meteorite we may stay there for quite a while..
pigeons: that's what coinbase always says
jurov: okay. but that isn't helping me wrap my head about that mtgox-price-based business model
Bugpowder: They are reddit's preferred purchasing method
Bugpowder: people that are buying coins at $29.50
jurov: for example, i know how i sell MPBPT practically for free and still end up with profit. but i somehow don't get this.
pigeons: they are "growth hackers" whatever that is
Bowjob: ehem. 5 years later.. people are buying coins at 2950 dollars, instead of 290 dollars
Anduck: Bugpowder: it's wiser to buy coins at 29.50 than 129.50
Anduck: someone mentioned ma point
kakobrekla: dat braces kid will have gold teeth sooner or later.
Bugpowder: Well, I hope they are all quite wise
jurov: Diablo-D3 haven't you get meteorite rush?
kakobrekla: prolly best to just take the braces off.
pigeons: rob the bitcoin store tell em make me a grill
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063879 = 6.3879 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1004 @ 0.00063878 = 0.6413 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.30301, Best ask: 29.47999, Bid-ask spread: 0.17698, Last trade: 29.30301, 24 hour volume: 94559.98577758, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.55000, 24 hour vwap: 27.96753
Bowjob: wheres that gigantic candle :)
jurov: *throws burning potssium in*
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 14 @ 0.00067 = 0.0094 BTC [-]
DeadWeasel: Coinbase Re-fucked me. The pending transactions I had disappeared from my account history
DeadWeasel: so i'm down $1300 and no record of the purchase except my bank acct
Bugpowder: BItcoinQT v0.80 is using 720% of my CPU
dub: two FB threads about buttcoin lately
dub: we need an apocalypse nao
dub: 51% asicminer panic, devs acting against dice, anything
Bowjob: the ltc people over at btc-e are predicting a massive sell off tomorrow
jurov: like, everyone dumping btc in favor of ltc?
Bowjob: they are saying sell btc now, crash incoming
Bowjob: not necessarily in favour of ltc, but they like ltc who who knows
DeadWeasel: since it's work $5 more than I paid for it then.
Bowjob: 33 is a little too rich
Bowjob: i mean, right now the orders look like its smooth sailing if we break 30
Bowjob: but theres gonna be resistance futher,
Bowjob: 30 is the conservative target
Bowjob: 31.. optimistic, 32, thats pushing it
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.62001, Best ask: 29.63001, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 29.63001, 24 hour volume: 95220.61306534, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 27.99449
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.36903, Best ask: 29.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03097, Last trade: 29.40000, 24 hour volume: 95677.19212308, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 28.01492
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.31596, Best ask: 29.36020, Bid-ask spread: 0.04424, Last trade: 29.31700, 24 hour volume: 95898.29879253, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 28.01890
jurov: twas muscle memory
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1177 @ 0.00064 = 0.7533 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.0006507 = 0.911 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00065582 = 5.181 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9323 @ 0.00065828 = 6.1371 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 636 @ 0.00063878 = 0.4063 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00063878 = 2.108 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1458 @ 0.00063859 = 0.9311 BTC [-]
mod6: (13:25) < btc123> MPEX is stupid. he should price membership in fiat, not BTC.... whats gonna happen when BTC=$1000 each? $40,000 to get an account and trade?. mira popescecu is a huge egomanic idiot
mod6: (13:25) < btc123> i'm gonna make btc123EX just to spite him. membership == free
mod6: (13:25) < btc123> fuck mpex
mod6: he also said that they're making a BTC ETF for the QQQ too, so lol
mod6: (12:32) < btc123> its mainstream now. the NASDAQ is adding a Bitcoin ETF next week... buy buy buy
mod6: (12:32) <+mod6> haha, no way.
mod6: ...he certainly didn't cite anything
mod6: (13:29) < btc123> it will be ready by april 1
mod6: (13:30) < btc123> its going to be called FMPEX (fuck mpex)
mod6: there should be a bbet on this
dub: ah undernet. -G(announce@undernet.org)- What is a TROLL? The UnderNet User-Committee Class Project presents our LIVE Q/A & CHAT session.
kakobrekla: and im gonna rethink the no ban policy here.
kakobrekla: its this is getting out of hand at a times.
mircea_popescu: i wish it entered into record that the 123th or so idiot doing "an exchange" just "to spite me" is very effective. i am all spited and everything.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla what's wrong with people fillingtheir ignore lists ?
mircea_popescu: i mean other than other people discussing with the idiots so you end up with a long convo in which someone is apparently talking to themself.
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu it helps noone to have some strange and confusing echoes on the chan
jurov: peeps are selling options on -otc for prices 3x C350N .. i couldn't resist
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00063859 = 6.6413 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, i absolutely LOVE people trying to escalate a request for "help" whereby they didn't read the faq
mircea_popescu: into a thread of dicussion where they inform the presumably mouth-agape site ops of how the world works.
jurov: [22:32] <FonziScheme> mpex prices page hurts my brain to look at
jurov: ^they don't read faq since their brain hurts
kakobrekla: anywho cant wait for btc123 securities exchange
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla just some knowitall dood, explaining why intrade system " would seem to have all of
mircea_popescu: the advantages and none of the disadvantages of the system you've selected"
mircea_popescu: completely blind to the fact that on such a system you can't buy more than what someone sells/etc
mircea_popescu: and obviously not being aware whart it's called. he has some bullshit (self developed ?) examples
mircea_popescu: basically a horde of maybe 1-500 mn people are marginally self aware enough to use a spoon (but not a fork) and windows, and they're running around explaining why everything should be made out of spoons running windows.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the real world happily churns away on linux, using forks and knives.
dub: not to mention the billions still using a pair of sticks to eat
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.03000, Best ask: 29.09839, Bid-ask spread: 0.06839, Last trade: 29.23900, 24 hour volume: 98549.45901109, 24 hour low: 26.65018, 24 hour high: 29.65000, 24 hour vwap: 28.08445
jborkl: -otc makes my head hurtmore than mpex any day
Bugpowder: I'd say we are due for another leg up...
mod6: then there is this gem:
mod6: all this dudes hatred over a simple grave.
jurov: actually it looks i put a proverbial bug into someone's head
mod6: haha. you have much more patience than i do :D
jurov: lol but when i said "if you can raise thousands of btcs like mpoe does... no problem" looks like he lost interest
jurov: i'll leave it there
dub: the pocket money mom gives him isnt goign to cover that