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mircea_popescu: that dishwasha exchange was... interesting.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 2 @ 0.01029943 = 0.0206 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1 @ 0.06193501 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.00800002 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.09478131 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 1 @ 0.00862926 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.13193935 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064735 = 3.2368 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14774 @ 0.00064736 = 9.5641 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33107 @ 0.00065772 = 21.7751 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00065998 = 16.4995 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00065999 = 2.178 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68819 @ 0.00066 = 45.4205 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 500 @ 0.70576158 = 352.8808 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00064223 = 5.9727 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 820 @ 0.29190365 = 239.361 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 777 @ 0.22544062 = 175.1674 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00066 = 7.755 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 614 @ 0.16607911 = 101.9726 BTC [+]
mod6: fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
mod6: fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu SupaDupaJenkins
Supa: fuck yourself...
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 563 @ 0.11587618 = 65.2383 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so what's new
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00464142 = 5.8018 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00462545 = 2.3127 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1377 @ 0.00457353 = 6.2978 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1303 @ 0.00456874 = 5.9531 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 320 @ 0.0045637 = 1.4604 BTC [-]
Graet: supa forgot to take the meds again?
pigeons: too much crank
pigeons: :(
mircea_popescu: there should be a bet : does bfl deliver before pirate pays ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00460592 = 8.2907 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 554 @ 0.00464529 = 2.5735 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00065999 = 19.7997 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00066 = 2.112 BTC [+]
pigeons: whose buying supa debt?
assbot: [BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 1.2225 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1535 @ 0.00464529 = 7.1305 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 373 @ 0.0046499 = 1.7344 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1159 @ 0.00459038 = 5.3203 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4425 @ 0.0046176 = 20.4329 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5200 @ 0.0046176 = 24.0115 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.0046176 = 6.2338 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 477 @ 0.0046499 = 2.218 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00466753 = 9.3351 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 45 @ 0.00467388 = 0.2103 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1255 @ 0.00467388 = 5.8657 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00467449 = 9.349 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3061 @ 0.0046745 = 14.3086 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3557 @ 0.00467895 = 16.643 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1547 @ 0.00469829 = 7.2683 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00470319 = 2.5868 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 312 @ 0.00470361 = 1.4675 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 813 @ 0.00470385 = 3.8242 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2745 @ 0.00470449 = 12.9138 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2660 @ 0.00470703 = 12.5207 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2111 @ 0.00471062 = 9.9441 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1654 @ 0.00471497 = 7.7986 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00471641 = 10.8477 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1717 @ 0.00472014 = 8.1045 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 763 @ 0.00473096 = 3.6097 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00473389 = 7.3375 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4094 @ 0.00473804 = 19.3975 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00473838 = 14.2151 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3650 @ 0.00474089 = 17.3042 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8950 @ 0.00474097 = 42.4317 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1711 @ 0.00474221 = 8.1139 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00449034 / 0.00461379 / 0.00474221 (341542 shares, 1,575.81 BTC), 7D: 0.00449 / 0.00467079 / 0.0048 (2142353 shares, 10,006.48 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00356887 / 0.0048 (12139615 shares, 43,324.81 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 978 @ 0.00467269 = 4.5699 BTC [-]
mod6: s.dice bonanza
mod6: crap, i hate it when my ssh sessions timeout
mircea_popescu: Bridge is such a sensational game that I wouldn't mind being in jail if I had three cellmates who were decent players and who were willing to keep the game going twenty-four hours a day.
mircea_popescu: this is true.
mircea_popescu: bridge is the prison killer.
mod6: well, not thats its a bad thing, but it happens enough to get annoying on this aws shit where im in and out all the time.
mod6: haha, never played. i like spades, poker and cribbage.
azx: lol
mircea_popescu: maybe you should try it when you're old.
azx: 24/7 same game? LOL, this will become a real hell fast
mircea_popescu: not with bridge.
mircea_popescu: (the quote was from warren buffett btw)
mod6: yeah, i thought the minimum age was like 200
mircea_popescu: mod6 the minimum age for men is 50. the maximum age for women is 32.
mod6: haha
mod6: werd
mircea_popescu: after that they get too good at it.
mod6: too much table talk
mod6: with out the table talk
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1848 @ 0.00467269 = 8.6351 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00472961 = 9.4592 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00472962 = 3.0743 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.22917485 = 229.1749 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Henderson Brothers, Inc., the specialist in our shares, is the oldest continuing specialist firm on the Exchange; its progenitor, William Thomas Henderson, bought his seat for $500 on September 8, 1861."
mircea_popescu: o fuck yeah. 500 dollars IN 1861!
mircea_popescu: next time anyone whines about "500 dollars" im showing them this.
mod6: haha. well, that'd be like 50000 now.
mod6: with 100% devaluation
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00467269 = 3.2709 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: actually seats sell for > 1mn these days
mod6: aah
azx: mod6: Total inflation from January 1914 to January 2012 is 2,166.65%
mod6: lol yikes
azx: you have to search for something that has 1860 data too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1901 @ 0.00472962 = 8.991 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 689 @ 0.00474221 = 3.2674 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00474275 = 2.3714 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2404 @ 0.00474803 = 11.4143 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1856 @ 0.00475 = 8.816 BTC [+]
azx: http://inflationdata.com enjoy
mod6: nice!
azx: in last 12 years USD has lost 33%!
mircea_popescu: i think that's understated.
mircea_popescu: (20.16 ** 1/98)
mircea_popescu: ;;calc (20.16 ** 1/98)
gribble: 0.205714285714
mircea_popescu: ugh
azx: 1990-2012 76,14%!
azx: look at the inflation for your lifetime ... ouch
mod6: haha, you gotta go back to 1980 for me
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1.0313 ** 98
gribble: 20.4989558215
mircea_popescu: ok, listen, that number is bs.
mircea_popescu: no way inflation averaged 3% a year.
mircea_popescu: century inflation is more in the 100k to 1mn% range
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1124 @ 0.00467269 = 5.2521 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 576 @ 0.00467146 = 2.6908 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3450 @ 0.00475 = 16.3875 BTC [+]
azx: go argue with that site :) I do not run it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3724 @ 0.00467146 = 17.3965 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 526 @ 0.00464864 = 2.4452 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2572 @ 0.00472961 = 12.1646 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 428 @ 0.00472961 = 2.0243 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2022 @ 0.00474624 = 9.5969 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 883 @ 0.00464865 = 4.1048 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 117 @ 0.00464865 = 0.5439 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1683 @ 0.00464864 = 7.8237 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00474582 = 5.695 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2650 @ 0.00474623 = 12.5775 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1578 @ 0.00464864 = 7.3356 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 422 @ 0.00464694 = 1.961 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/about-trading-and-value/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00474623 = 2.8477 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 310 @ 0.00468133 = 1.4512 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 720 @ 0.00464865 = 3.347 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.0046577 = 4.8906 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00472514 = 11.8129 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 62 @ 0.00464694 = 0.2881 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 488 @ 0.00462601 = 2.2575 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 1475 @ 0.0018 = 2.655 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00473225 = 6.1519 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 694 @ 0.00473625 = 3.287 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.0097 = 0.0194 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3600 @ 0.00462602 = 16.6537 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00469986 = 2.3499 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 306 @ 0.00473625 = 1.4493 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 964 @ 0.00473626 = 4.5658 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1678 @ 0.00474733 = 7.966 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6852 @ 0.00475 = 32.547 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00475 = 9.2625 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00462602 = 6.4764 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00462601 = 0.2313 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: You've got 3
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mircea_popescu: (c) 2013. RealDiatingSystem.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00470296 = 7.2896 BTC [+]
Schadenfreude: Is it a dieting system or a dating system?
mircea_popescu: right ?
mircea_popescu: i guess it must be the result of a merger.
mircea_popescu: a real diating system, does both.
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.459 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00464849 = 7.9024 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00065999 = 0.99 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 594 @ 0.00470296 = 2.7936 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1606 @ 0.00475 = 7.6285 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.0018 = 0.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.00475 = 12.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00470168 = 5.642 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 504 @ 0.00475 = 2.394 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3596 @ 0.00475035 = 17.0823 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.00474024 = 9.7175 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1685 @ 0.00475035 = 8.0043 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00470168 = 5.8771 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00469426 = 11.5009 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00466466 = 3.2653 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 15 @ 0.79 = 11.85 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00465654 = 9.3131 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00464849 = 1.1621 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1987 @ 0.00462601 = 9.1919 BTC [-]
Schadenfreude: Hooray, my order got filled on coinbr
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3200 @ 0.00465654 = 14.9009 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 586 @ 0.00465654 = 2.7287 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 349 @ 0.00465654 = 1.6251 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 651 @ 0.00472886 = 3.0785 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1775 @ 0.00462601 = 8.2112 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1425 @ 0.00462128 = 6.5853 BTC [-]
jurov: pirate uses coinbr, who wudda say :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00462803 = 2.314 BTC [+]
Schadenfreude: I wish, then I'd spend more than 3 btc :P
Schadenfreude: might invest more if mpex stocks don't implode or somebody hacks coinbr into oblivion by next month
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.79 = 1.58 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1825 @ 0.00462128 = 8.4338 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 10 @ 0.8399 = 8.399 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.8399 = 1.6798 BTC [+]
Schadenfreude: Bad idea since they're bought back at about 0.7 BTC value
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1475 @ 0.00461846 = 6.8122 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 842 @ 0.00462803 = 3.8968 BTC [+]
Schadenfreude: So if neotrix buys them back within 10~ weeks, those people are screwed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1407 @ 0.00462803 = 6.5116 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00471664 = 10.3766 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00475035 = 1.9001 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2918 @ 0.00475035 = 13.8615 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2701 @ 0.00475035 = 12.8307 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 422 @ 0.00475112 = 2.005 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.20001, Best ask: 14.24998, Bid-ask spread: 0.04997, Last trade: 14.20001, 24 hour volume: 46208.66766734, 24 hour low: 13.99178, 24 hour high: 14.47899, 24 hour vwap: 14.20296
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.007 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00475 = 3.0875 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: !ticker s.dice
assbot: Provide exchange and ticker.
Bugpowder: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00449034 / 0.00463912 / 0.00475112 (403600 shares, 1,872.35 BTC), 7D: 0.00449 / 0.00467182 / 0.0048 (2204987 shares, 10,301.32 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.00358016 / 0.0048 (12255882 shares, 43,878.11 BTC)
Bugpowder: !ticker m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (18545 shares, 33.38 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00077036 / 0.0035 (2164911 shares, 1,667.76 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00077036 / 0.0035 (2164911 shares, 1,667.76 BTC)
azx: Bugpowder: can you /msg assbot ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.007 = 0.021 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: doesn't everyone want to know the latest :-P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3450 @ 0.00475 = 16.3875 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 646 @ 0.00471499 = 3.0459 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 554 @ 0.0046176 = 2.5582 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.004749 = 1.1873 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3700 @ 0.00475 = 17.575 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26550 @ 0.00065957 = 17.5116 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00065459 = 1.4074 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1118 @ 0.00474416 = 5.304 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2132 @ 0.00475 = 10.127 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 10 @ 0.79 = 7.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.0047083 = 10.8291 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1355 @ 0.00475 = 6.4363 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2619 @ 0.00475 = 12.4403 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00468567 = 4.6857 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1219 @ 0.00462626 = 5.6394 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00471633 = 14.149 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1281 @ 0.00462626 = 5.9262 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 219 @ 0.00462 = 1.0118 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1640 @ 0.00468138 = 7.6775 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00471633 = 8.0178 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17680 @ 0.00065999 = 11.6686 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: S.BBET bids are up to .0015
Bugpowder: heh
Bugpowder: I wonder if anyone will bite
Korbman: !ticker m S.BBET
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (18545 shares, 33.38 BTC), 7D: 0.000337 / 0.00077036 / 0.0035 (2164911 shares, 1,667.76 BTC), 30D: 0.000337 / 0.00077036 / 0.0035 (2164911 shares, 1,667.76 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.48 = 8.64 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2260 @ 0.00469924 = 10.6203 BTC [-]
jcpham: so let's say I wanted to buy a few thousand shares of S.BBET
jcpham: where would i start
Schadenfreude: If you don't want to spend more than 100BTC on the venture I'd recommend the mpex broker
Schadenfreude: https://coinbr.com/ref?c=W3XWfHQCws
Bugpowder: type this into your terminal ./mpex.py 'BUY|S.BBET|21142|175000'
jcpham: http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/derivatives/bank_exposure.html
Korbman: Ha, I haven't seen that infographic in ages
Diablo-D3: >100BTC
Diablo-D3: not enough for a pizza
jcpham: you need at least 10k bitcoin for pizza iirc
Schadenfreude: $140k? but I like my pizza without gold and diamonds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00462633 = 3.0071 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00462633 = 9.0213 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 40 @ 0.00463293 = 0.1853 BTC [+]
jcpham: http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/internet/ripple-credit-system-could-help-or-harm-bitcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.48 = 4.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 393 @ 0.0046823 = 1.8401 BTC [+]
jcpham: i'm so on the fence with ripple
jcpham: no comment. i lose all visionary-ness on ripple
jcpham: unsure if good or bad
jcpham: i agree
jcpham: paralyzing
jcpham: is a better term
kakobrekla: assbot, bitbet and the rest of the world will return when the hdd od the server is changed, thanks for your patience
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.48 = 4.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 331 @ 0.0046339 = 1.5338 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00466725 = 2.3336 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2002 @ 0.00467104 = 9.3514 BTC [+]
thestrin1puller: kakobrekla: assbot is down?
kakobrekla: !ticker not anymore
assbot: Have you got any tobacco?
thestrin1puller: i have wacky tobaccy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 181 @ 0.00462 = 0.8362 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.00461845 = 12.008 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 119 @ 0.0046176 = 0.5495 BTC [-]
azx: "kakobrekla | assbot, bitbet and the rest of the world will return when the hdd od the server is changed, thanks for"
kakobrekla: hm?
kakobrekla: what is the issue?
jurov: azx, kako runs teh matrix
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 34 @ 0.48 = 16.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.48 = 4.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00461761 = 2.7706 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00461761 = 1.847 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 702 @ 0.0046176 = 3.2416 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1777 @ 0.00461332 = 8.1979 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3400 @ 0.00461115 = 15.6779 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 721 @ 0.00460415 = 3.3196 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0047 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0047 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0046 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.48 = 4.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00463612 = 4.6361 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00463611 = 10.1994 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2307 @ 0.00460415 = 10.6218 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 24 @ 0.0046 = 0.1104 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 350 @ 0.0044 = 1.54 BTC [-]
Schadenfreude: Free fall, free fall, everybody panic sell! :P
Bugpowder: meh
Bugpowder: it hit .00449 before
Bugpowder: I'll pick more up down there
Bugpowder: http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.DICE
thestrin1puller: people are dumping profits and closing shortd
thestrin1puller: shorts
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2613 @ 0.00464951 = 12.1492 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 337 @ 0.00460415 = 1.5516 BTC [-]
Schadenfreude: I'll dump some at 0.00472+, daytrading is kinda fun
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 298 @ 0.00467104 = 1.392 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 88 @ 0.0046823 = 0.412 BTC [+]
Korbman: Daytrading has a hell of a rush
Schadenfreude: Explains why bankers use so much cocaine
kakobrekla: i buy cocaine for my bots.
kakobrekla: here assbot, you been up for weeks, have a line.
Schadenfreude: you'd be better off with modafinil for the staying awake part
kakobrekla: but does that make them feel better too?
Korbman: I wish I had that stuff when I worked both a night shift and day shift at two different jobs in college
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 706 @ 0.00460415 = 3.2505 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 94 @ 0.00459983 = 0.4324 BTC [-]
Korbman: there's only so much coffee and energy drinks you can consume before tiredness still takes over
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 151 @ 0.48 = 72.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 19 @ 0.0046823 = 0.089 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00471633 = 10.1401 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2552 @ 0.00472657 = 12.0622 BTC [+]
Schadenfreude: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Erd%C5%91s#Personality
Schadenfreude: Amphetamines are the choice for being focused, motivated and awake longer
kakobrekla: Korbman caffeine powder.
Schadenfreude: It's meh, caffeine tends to produce a nasty tolerance pretty fast
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2406 @ 0.00459983 = 11.0672 BTC [-]
Korbman: True, but that shit is dangerous if you mismeasure it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 294 @ 0.00459927 = 1.3522 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: yep
kakobrekla: i used it a few years back for a while
kakobrekla: 72hrs uptime was ez
kakobrekla: ;>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2036 @ 0.00472657 = 9.6233 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 164 @ 0.00473843 = 0.7771 BTC [+]
Schadenfreude: I hate the fact, that I have to go through caffeine withdrawals after a major exam
kakobrekla: dont start to get off it
kakobrekla: fixed.
Korbman: hahaha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 436 @ 0.00473843 = 2.066 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 614 @ 0.00474899 = 2.9159 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 36 @ 0.00474899 = 0.171 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 219 @ 0.004749 = 1.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1849 @ 0.00475 = 8.7828 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 181 @ 0.004749 = 0.8596 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2019 @ 0.00475 = 9.5903 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: modafinil works well
Bugpowder: not as 'fun' but effective for focus
Bugpowder: when you absolutely need to focus for 12 hours.
Schadenfreude: I only use caffeine and piracetam if I must learn hard
Schadenfreude: Poppy tea orso after a passed exam is a different matter. Thank god for greyzone laws on dried poppies here
Korbman: "The tea is consumed for its narcotic, analgesic, and anti-diarrheal effects"
Schadenfreude: Don't forget the euphoric and relaxing properties
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1232 @ 0.00469621 = 5.7857 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00469621 = 1.4089 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.48 = 4.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00472154 = 9.4431 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 658 @ 0.00473 = 3.1123 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 358 @ 0.00473 = 1.6933 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1747 @ 0.0047419 = 8.2841 BTC [+]
thestrin1puller: trust Bugpowder he is a neurosurgeon
kakobrekla: yeah you get hooked on it in about 2 weeks
kakobrekla: and hooked off in the same period
kakobrekla: it makes more sense to go on and off it
thestrin1puller: kakobrekla: sounds like "moderation"
kakobrekla: thestrin1puller, everything in moderation, even moderation
Schadenfreude: Yea, but I meant the kind with terrible headaches and feeling tired for a couple of days, since I don't drink coffee if I don't have to
Schadenfreude: american.jpg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1495 @ 0.0047419 = 7.0891 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3018 @ 0.00469621 = 14.1732 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2932 @ 0.0046825 = 13.7291 BTC [-]
jcpham: i go through withdrawals fairly regularly
jcpham: caffeine and nicotine both
jcpham: i binge on both of those and then will go back to cold turkey
mircea_popescu: ahh, how's the drama ?
Schadenfreude: Same with nicotine, it's just that I'm exposed to caffeine for about 3 weeks on occasion so it's a tad harder
jcpham: i used to be seriously dependent on both fentanyl and oxycodone a few years back
jcpham: i smoke when i drink
jcpham: so i'll smoke like a pack or two in a night
jcpham: and then days of feeling like crap
mircea_popescu: !ticker btctc gsdpt
assbot: [BTCT:GSDPT] 1D: 0.0044 / 0.0044 / 0.007 (381 shares, 1.7 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.01 / 0.0075 (655 shares, 3.6 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.01 / 0.0075 (655 shares, 3.6 BTC)
jcpham: i do that pretty regularly, the nicotine withdrawal feeling
mircea_popescu: jesus this is like tongue twister exchange
mod6: haha
jcpham: fentanyl is worse than heroin i hear
jcpham: to withdraw from
jcpham: fentanyl was like 2 full weeks of the trainspotting scene
jcpham: except i had to work
mod6: well, fentanyl is like 100x
jcpham: i'm pretty sure i flew to Des Moines to install some servers during my narcotics detox
jcpham: shrug
jcpham: the pain was exquisite
jcpham: i'll say that
Schadenfreude: Poppy pods are great to enjoy, but awful if you get addicted to them
jcpham: prescription
jcpham: 50 micrograms every 48 hours
mircea_popescu: Schadenfreude, Bugpowder did you two see my latest production ?
jcpham: damn mircea_popescu you make friends
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1818 @ 0.0046825 = 8.5128 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 525 @ 0.00466414 = 2.4487 BTC [-]
jcpham: look i can re-arrange it
mircea_popescu: i have this advantage that i get high on my own neurotransmitters, as my sister put it. of course everyone wants to be friends with me.
jcpham: damn you, mircea_popescu, make friends
jcpham: i'm new here
jcpham: where do i throw my money?
jcpham: which pile
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2226 @ 0.00475 = 10.5735 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 174 @ 0.00475094 = 0.8267 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: assbot just told you.
jcpham: jeez
Bugpowder: blogpost on buffer?
kakobrekla: yeah, put it on glbse rather
mod6: oh i remember them
mircea_popescu: anyone remember namworld's link for bvps statement ?
mod6: i've got it somewhere...
Bugpowder: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdDFvQWJnZnRZQWJfbk1mNHYtVzhPR0E#gid=0
mircea_popescu: danke
Bugpowder: jcpham There are a variety of good options
kakobrekla: waiiiiit rewind
kakobrekla: " better than expected."
kakobrekla: srsly??
kakobrekla: GLBSE was better than expected?
kakobrekla: well i must say i admire your humble expectations.
mircea_popescu: who on my ignore are we talking to ?
kakobrekla: 19:10.07 ( EskimoBob ) it's gone! and everyone got their coin back. better than expected.
Bugpowder: jcpham, Hard to say which security will do the best in the coming months, depends on the revenue growth. So just buy a little of S.MPOE, S.BVPS, S.DICE and S.BBET
mircea_popescu: a a
mod6: EskimoBob: just thought i had it handy. :3
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2250 @ 0.00466414 = 10.4943 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: some will go up, some might go down
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder : i envisage funds won't be far off yet.
mircea_popescu: actual investment decisions to be pondered nao.
Bugpowder: Well, I'm basically doing that for my friends
Bugpowder: right now
mircea_popescu: no but i meant people who know what they're doing
mircea_popescu: :D
Bugpowder: well, people that actually set it up more official than a google doc
mircea_popescu: i kid, i kid
kakobrekla: EskimoBob wtf were you doing on glbse if that outcome came over your expectations'
Bugpowder: Let me dry my tears with all these extra bitcoins I made this month
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.459 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla he was talking. it worked a lot better.
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.459 = 0.918 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.46 = 2.3 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: so now we need eskimobob english to english translator?
Bugpowder: well, that went ok for me, although it would have been nice if the asset prices hadn't crashed as people were racing to the exits.
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.476 = 0.952 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: apparently
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.22458623 = 224.5862 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ill use +b if it comes to it
Bugpowder: shoulda got out as soon as that youtube video of him at the conference got out
Bugpowder: "Have you actually talked to a lawyer? I think maybe you should, very soon!"
thestrin1puller: ;;seen smickles
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 hours, 4 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <smickles> well, so far i'm doing alright, and this is the test month
thestrin1puller: anyone have link to mpoe public finance report for dec
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/mpoe-december-2012-statement
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6826 @ 0.00475094 = 32.4299 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1224 @ 0.00475101 = 5.8152 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmPD_YSQ--k&t=25m15s
kakobrekla: who said i wasnt?
kakobrekla: well then stop yappin bout it
kakobrekla: you certanly dont give that impression here :)
thestrin1puller: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.22453777 = 224.5378 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so there's a drop expected in btc or what.
Namworld: what do I know...
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.16451239 = 164.5124 BTC [-]
Korbman: !ticker
assbot: Provide exchange and ticker.
Korbman: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00449034 / 0.00465126 / 0.00475112 (494978 shares, 2,302.28 BTC), 7D: 0.00449 / 0.00466409 / 0.0048 (2057653 shares, 9,597.09 BTC), 30D: 0.0014 / 0.0035971 / 0.0048 (12252072 shares, 44,072.03 BTC)
topace: !ticker h sdice
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.48000000 / 0.48049655 / 0.48900000 (290 shares, 139.34400000 BTC), 7D: 0.47500000 / 0.48166574 / 0.50000000 (1080 shares, 520.19900000 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.45280971 / 0.62000000 (3500 shares, 1584.83399998 BTC)
Bugpowder: http://newsroom.fb.com/News/562/Introducing-Graph-Search-Beta
mircea_popescu: ow fuck
mircea_popescu: ok, now that's a brilliant idea
mircea_popescu: if there were a box into which i could go "hey, there was this graph like so and so somewhere"
mircea_popescu: and it found it...
mircea_popescu: o god.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00466415 = 11.4272 BTC [-]
mod6: i think they just kinda reinvented the EFnet sex chart
mod6: but not ascii heheheh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12047 @ 0.00066 = 7.951 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/jvRBy.jpg
Bugpowder: nsfw?
Bugpowder: I totally agree with this statement "It is, I submit, a lot easier to be a star in BTC than it is in fiat, simply because so many more intelligent people (that aren’t computer programmers!) are involved with the latter as opposed to the former."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3350 @ 0.00467416 = 15.6584 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3096 @ 0.00475101 = 14.7091 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112447.msg1455855#msg1455855 did you do that ?
mod6: haha, "only 23 years old"
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.22443673 = 224.4367 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.16440693 = 164.4069 BTC [-]
Namworld: who's buying those?
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu You are wrong about buffet.
Bugpowder: He is currently up big on his short put contracts
mircea_popescu: Buglouse tt. and on which score ?
Bugpowder: Closed some of them for 50% profit already
mircea_popescu: wait, this was cca 2009
mircea_popescu: he went from 70 to 40 bn nw or some shit
mircea_popescu: 1/3 of that was index puts
Bugpowder: using black-scholes valuation modes
Bugpowder: model
mircea_popescu: yea, which alone is funny
Bugpowder: which, not sure if its really the right model for those long dated things
mircea_popescu: seeing what he thinks of price-based evaluation models lol
Bugpowder: man
Namworld: Anyone got BTCT.co/BitFunder/Cryptostock stuff? Looking for things to short.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.48 = 0.96 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: I hope the options buyer keeps buying the puts
mod6: im bullish on btc
mod6: it seems hard to find a lot of downside at this stage of the game
Bugpowder: :(
Bugpowder: I made puts but the buyer isn't buying anymore
Bugpowder: Is that 2% fee on the total deposit?
thestringpuller: !ticker m O.BTCUSD.P140
assbot: Hell, ain't we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh?
mod6: need the T|N on the end there thestringpuller
thestringpuller: !ticker m O.BTCUSD.P140T
assbot: [MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1D: 0.01029943 / 0.11550245 / 0.11587618 (565 shares, 65.26 BTC), 7D: 0.01029943 / 0.11470805 / 0.12379657 (572 shares, 65.61 BTC), 30D: 0.01029943 / 0.10639863 / 0.168 (3678 shares, 391.33 BTC)
thestringpuller: forgot
mod6: :]
thestringpuller: ;;calc (14 - 13.50) / 13.50
gribble: 0.037037037037
thestringpuller: !ticker m O.BTCUSD.C140T
assbot: [MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1D: 0.10808014 / 0.10808014 / 0.10808014 (10 shares, 1.08 BTC), 7D: 0.0164898 / 0.10950172 / 0.14775821 (23 shares, 2.52 BTC), 30D: 0.01359389 / 0.02685208 / 0.19999999 (1051 shares, 28.22 BTC)
mod6: i feel like it really wants to break out here... im a cash buyer for sure at $10, but i've been really wanting to grab some more quick before it hits 20
mod6: im not saying anything in particular about his position
mircea_popescu: tbh i think 20 is more likely than 10 at this point
mircea_popescu: but what do i know
thestringpuller: thats what she said mod6
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3680 @ 0.00475101 = 17.4837 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 870 @ 0.00475103 = 4.1334 BTC [+]
Namworld: I hardly see why not...
mod6: i feel like that was kinda concervitive. i think we might add another zero to the end of that before too long here.
mod6: *conservitive
mircea_popescu: Namworld bfl.
dub: hmm
dub: "blocks" : 191463,
mod6: maybe so... the asics are a huge let down so far.
dub: this is getting silly
mod6: i was even hoping to get a few of these going in '13 also (asics)
mod6: i didnt pre-order anything, because I'm a wait and see type usually...
mod6: But, I am hopful that someone will put together an orginization that can turn out a stable asic product this year.
Bugpowder: I think BFL is going to eventually ship. The scam is collecting money a year or more before they actually ship
Bugpowder: i KNEW they were going to have issues with the packaging
mod6: I have no idea who, or what, but I remain hopful that someone can turn these things out efficiantly and have them be reliable.
Bugpowder: flip chip
Bugpowder: EskimoBob tru
kakobrekla: the pic that bfl showed is not a flipchip
mircea_popescu: <mod6> i didnt pre-order anything, because I'm a wait and see type usuall << seriously wise in this case
kakobrekla: the core pic
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla exactly.
mircea_popescu: i suspect they just cull off interwebs by now.
dub: EskimoBob: like make pottery cups?
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0047 = 0.0235 BTC [+]
mod6: yeah, im more interested in the asics for personal btc mining and some research
dub: dude everyone has made a pottery cup when they were 4-5 years old
mod6: I have this dream to build a really extensive elastic asic network
mod6: like, on demand
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 876 @ 0.00475103 = 4.1619 BTC [+]
mod6: anyway, a long ways off. i want to see what I can build with these things.
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.44 = 4.4 BTC [-]
mod6: along with some rasberry pi's
mod6: *raspberry
mod6: god my spelling is bad.
dub: no thats a stupid word
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 33 @ 0.3299 = 10.8867 BTC [-]
mod6: what is?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.33 = 0.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.48 = 1.92 BTC [-]
dub: also, isnt want you can build with a sha2 hashing asic fairly limited, to hashign sha2?
dub: mod6: raspberry
mod6: oh hehe
mod6: well, i believe that with the asic you can program the array anyway you wish really...
jcpham: cook eggs
mod6: and i was thinking if it was something like UCS, but instead of just CPUs, it could be large cards of FPGAs
dub: mod6: not afaik, you're thinking fpga?
mod6: and in a distributed network you could have a cloud of fpga's
mircea_popescu: asics != fpga in any way
mod6: dub: oh maybe i am
mircea_popescu: those things may be used to possibly fold, for instance, but only if you do some transforms on the fold problem to make it like a hash
mod6: im talking about the same thing as the guy was trying to sell from BTC FPGA
mod6: so that thing yeah
mod6: sorry, im wicked tired
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.00475103 = 12.3527 BTC [+]
mod6: anyway, was a dream I had this morning
mod6: who knows :D
mircea_popescu: mod6 due to painfully obvious market inefficiency i would say by the time 3rd generation asics are here
mircea_popescu: we will be awash in useless chips to do any research w/e
mod6: hmm.. yeah, we'll just have to see what these guys can come up with
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3100 @ 0.00471726 = 14.6235 BTC [-]
mod6: so, ok yeah. i see that they are different from this chart
mod6: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison
mircea_popescu: basically an asic is burned in silicon
mircea_popescu: a fpga is more like an old flashable bios
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00472941 = 9.9318 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00471726 = 6.6042 BTC [-]
mod6: i see.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2654 @ 0.00475103 = 12.6092 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1196 @ 0.00475106 = 5.6823 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00471726 = 3.5379 BTC [-]
dub: well kinda
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: good layman explanation
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: good response to the ddos too
dub: fpga has is an array of various logic units that can operate in a number of ways, you give it a program of sorts telling it what you want them to behave and route between each other
thestringpuller: did you ever find out if it was a dns attack or direct to your ip?
mod6: i was thinking with the way that the fpga could be reprogrammed on the fly, it could be used in an elastic environment
mod6: and low power! :D
dub: s/what/how
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it took out the entire gold network at gnax atlanta.
mircea_popescu: but we're pretty certain it was directed at mpex.co
thestringpuller: it took out a gold networm?
thestringpuller: network*
dub: asic is bascially taking that 'program' and building somethign specific for it
mircea_popescu: http://gold.gnax.net/ << that
dub: hence the Feild Programable and Application Specific portions
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 500 @ 0.2328178 = 116.4089 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 750 @ 0.17610041 = 132.0753 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00474618 = 3.5596 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00471726 = 14.1518 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00065936 = 7.5497 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 734 @ 0.00471726 = 3.4625 BTC [-]
dub: mircea_popescu: did the dos come with an extortion attempt or anything?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00474093 = 7.5855 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: dub no contact.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 156 @ 0.00635539 = 0.9914 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00471726 = 11.7932 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.4111 = 2.0555 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 13 @ 0.411 = 5.343 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.33 = 4.95 BTC [+]
mod6: *yawn*
mod6: omg
Namworld: ... I want to short some of these...
Korbman: gah, I'm sooo bored at work today
Namworld: Sure no one has something they'd lend for a fee?
Namworld: I feel like short selling.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1616 @ 0.00471726 = 7.6231 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 384 @ 0.00471725 = 1.8114 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: smickles dors
thestringpuller: does
thestringpuller: .2%
mircea_popescu: you wanna short basic mining ?!
jcpham: what is basicmining
Namworld: Not just that =/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00474093 = 2.1334 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 450 @ 0.0047 = 2.115 BTC [+]
jcpham: i have no choice but continue to mine & hoard
kakobrekla: hoarding if for hoardes
kakobrekla: is
kakobrekla: if=is
jcpham: i set my pool payout address to 1Dice because i can
kakobrekla: motherfuck.
jcpham: hahaha
jurov: looks like mpoe-pr has heard my plea for succinct sample of her personality
jurov: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102181.msg1456179#msg1456179
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: jcpham it's all just hashing right ?
jcpham: one big house of cards
jcpham: you can thank me later for propping it up
mircea_popescu: i'd rather thank you now than later at 107%
jcpham: haha
mircea_popescu: "Another delay we've had to endure is the fact that we have effectively tied the ASIC teams payment to the success of the chip. If the chip were to be a failure they don't get paid... so they have incentive to get it right but that has made them very cautious and slow to approve final masks"
mircea_popescu: sounds like a fine way to not have a team.
mircea_popescu: i never heard of engineers working on that sort of retainer.
mircea_popescu: or doctors, for that matter.
mircea_popescu: lawyers rarely do.
Korbman: I know some lawyers that do
Korbman: especially if they know they have a solid case
Bugpowder: My wife does
Korbman: there are plenty of blue collar jobs that use the same system, particularly in agriculture
Bugpowder: it is way more lucrative than hourly
Bugpowder: if you have the right case pipeline
Korbman: exactly
Korbman: and if you're a fast and accurate worker, you can surpass hourly workers regularly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 116 @ 0.00471725 = 0.5472 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2767 @ 0.00470902 = 13.0299 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00466459 = 4.1981 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 179 @ 0.00466414 = 0.8349 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: In my limited experience with silicon mfg contracting, you send a detailed spec sheet. If they don't meet the spec, they don't get paid.
mircea_popescu: you're talking production
mircea_popescu: he's talking design.
Bugpowder: Of course, there is a discussion about the spec
Bugpowder: between the mfg and the designer
Bugpowder: ok
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder and yes some lawyers do, but only when they make more that way
mircea_popescu: which is moot since he;'s arguing it as a cost reduction measure
mircea_popescu: rather than as an expensive financing option.
mircea_popescu: in general you should be able to borrow to pay a fixed retainer rather than have to offer the laywer a % as in personal injury cases
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00466414 = 1.6324 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 196 @ 0.00466414 = 0.9142 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 264 @ 0.00465692 = 1.2294 BTC [-]
Namworld: Hmm, looks like Gigavps has actually started paying people...
gigavps: indeed
jcpham: hooray!
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00474093 = 0.237 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2179 @ 0.00475106 = 10.3526 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: oh wow
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.48 = 4.8 BTC [-]
dub: mircea_popescu: doesn't sound far fetched at all
mircea_popescu: dub what that ?
Namworld: I suppose you're still not going to claim them tho? =/
dub: a contract with the manufacturer that they don't get paid if its not delivered
mircea_popescu: dub manufacturer yes. the thread looks like it's about the desginer team.
mircea_popescu: Namworld you think 50 btc or w/e it is changes my mind about stuff like submitting us taxids ?!
dub: lots of things I work on are more punitive, ie we start paying penalties for late delivery as well as not getting paid
mircea_popescu: dub but they're all commodified i bet.
Namworld: It doesn't require US tax ID but eh
mircea_popescu: anyway. no, nothing's changed.
Namworld: Would have thought so.
dub: im talking things that need design/build to be delivered
dub: similar situation, customer wants x to do y in z, a project arises to achieve it funded by the promise of its success
mircea_popescu: really ?!
dub: failure is a, not uncommon, calculated risk
mircea_popescu: well, i never heard of it, myself.
mircea_popescu: i guess our worlds never met.
dub: one spectacular project failure in recent years resulted in a $50m writeoff
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00475106 = 7.3641 BTC [+]
dub: just what was spent on land/kit/ip for a build out before deciding it wasn't going to return capital
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3075 @ 0.00475106 = 14.6095 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 71 @ 0.00475111 = 0.3373 BTC [+]
jcpham: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57563963-94/with-gobank-you-can-carry-all-your-money-in-a-pocket/
Namworld: That wasted money would have been better spent on my little selfish person... 50 million...
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/the-one-person-id-like-to-meet/
dub: its pocket change really
dub: that was just a pilot for what would have cost a billion+
Namworld: They should run a pilot project on wether if they give me 50 million, I'll have 50 million.
mircea_popescu: they're still falling over each other with this non-bitcoin online payments thing ?
Namworld: YES
jcpham: apparently
Namworld: Feel free to burn them
mircea_popescu: what's the point even
mircea_popescu: like the new and improved horse carriage, cca 1910
jcpham: but with a new carriage compnay though
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00475111 = 9.0271 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: a bmw carriage
mircea_popescu: would kick all ass too. if i was ceo of bmw i'd totally do that
mircea_popescu: unveil a horsedrawn carriage at the 2013 whatever expo
mod6: i'd buy one
mod6: i need a horse
dub: I'd scrap all the BMWs and resell toyota
dub: far superior
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't buy a toyota.
dub: thats because you have never driven a car
mircea_popescu: hahaha possibly.
mircea_popescu: in fact i've never bought anything other than germanz.
jcpham: if you own a horse and a plow you can probably grow your own food to
jurov: mircea would do this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cookiesound/7387458292/sizes/l/in/photostream/
jcpham: or grow lots of your own food
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: with dudes tho ?!
jurov: with bitches ofc
jcpham: i'd drive the carriage
mod6: haha
jurov: i've seen them firsthand on vienna pride 2012.. lovely
mircea_popescu: there's a dude in californioa doing this for years
mircea_popescu: with girls.
kakobrekla: urlpls
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 77 @ 0.01 = 0.77 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00470888 = 0.9418 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: mmm
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.13 BTC
mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Ponygirl_folsom2005.jpg liek