jurov: mircea_popescu, just to nitpick, who got the recent s.dice dividend ? it wasn't exactly divisible number :)
jurov: and was it 1 satoshi or 94 as website shows?
mircea_popescu: evoorhees sent 1 satoshi originally. predictably, nothing happened.
mircea_popescu: so we talked and he sent 100. 94 of these were actually distributed, 6 were lost in rounding
mircea_popescu: if you had enough shares to qualify you got one (or more) else you got nothing
mircea_popescu: there's no practical way to do better than that tho, so.
jurov: he should made a raffle for that 1 satoshi
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28069 @ 0.0004875 = 13.6836 BTC [-]
FabianB: too many ppl won at s.dice this month?
jurov: no, there was a bug
jurov: you're in fact correct, in a sense :)
jurov: mircea, i remember rg boasting he is getting some bitcoins off sd that shouldn't be there
smickles: seems to me that this recent dividend shows it's all going according to plan
smickles: didn't it lose (hundreds|thousands) each month for a couple of months straight at the beginning?
smickles: jurov: are you talking about the delay payment of winnings bug?
smickles: 'cause i don't think that bug cost them any money
jurov: dunno. my memory tries to convince me there was some sd leak last month
jurov: scumbag memory. there isn't anyhing in logs.
smickles: heh, scumbag memory, well, if you do come across something like a money losing bug, i'd like to know :)
jurov: oh wait found something
jurov: <rg> [21:12:37] hm i think satoshidice just messed up
jurov: <rg> [21:13:00] it was meant to send me .8 btc if it was a winner
jurov: <rg> [21:13:03] it sent 1.2 btc
jurov: <rg> [21:13:39] that's what i use satoshidice for now
jurov: <rg> [21:13:44] i take like .1 btc
jurov: <rg> [21:13:48] and turn it into 1.5
jurov: <rg> [21:13:57] its worked 3 days in a row
jurov: dunno which day that was, should be sometime in october
jurov: to me smells like a bug
smickles: was this b/f or after rg learned simple arithmetic </jk>
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14069 @ 0.00048734 = 6.8564 BTC [-]
jurov: right below that is link to "shareholders on welfare" article that is dated October 22
jurov: so it certainly wasn't in august.
jurov: so this is what i have. or am i really a conspiration nut?
jurov: or if rg's broken arithmetic is paying him lunches, i wanna some too
mircea_popescu: jurov i recall rg saying he's making money on sd back in aug or so
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i don't think there's any bug, just variance.
jurov: what are the odds to turn 0.1 btc into a lunch three times in row?
mircea_popescu: but if you apply l'hospital you can calculate the odds
smickles: woah, i have 32 bux in unpaid adsense
smickles: last i checked i had less than 5
jurov: winning 0.1->12.5 btc is equivalent to "lessthan 512" with win odds of 0.7813%
jurov: dunno how can rg or l'hospital make a consistent strategy from it
jurov: no it was 0.1->1.5 btc that's "lessthan 4000" with win odds of 6.1% ...still
jurov: my brain is shutting down, too late
Anduck: smickles: which pays better, bitcoin ad networks or adsense?
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smickles: Anduck: i can't answer that without lying or researching, and I'm not doing either right now ;)
mircea_popescu: jurov l'hospital just tells you what are the odds of a certain distribution based on the odds of the process
mircea_popescu: for isntance if you toss a coin, you can use l'hospital to calculate the odds of getting three heads in a row followed by four tails in a row
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gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.56501, Best ask: 10.64199, Bid-ask spread: 0.07698, Last trade: 10.64200, 24 hour volume: 16450.39563539, 24 hour low: 10.40000, 24 hour high: 10.65000, 24 hour vwap: 10.53359
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.56501, Best ask: 10.64199, Bid-ask spread: 0.07698, Last trade: 10.64200, 24 hour volume: 16450.39563539, 24 hour low: 10.40000, 24 hour high: 10.65000, 24 hour vwap: 10.53359
gribble: Error: "tricker" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "tickler" is not a valid command.
smickles: there was an f.giga trade yesterday?
smickles: mircea_popescu: it looks as if, when I launch the thing, my bot will beat your bot by about .02btc on some strikes (if it were running now
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10547 @ 0.00048902 = 5.1577 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11603 @ 0.00048958 = 5.6806 BTC [+]
smickles: I just love how my ideas for bots are so plain and simple,
smickles: but by the time that simple idea is translated into code,
smickles: it's this complex leviathan floating around and eating worlds
smickles: although, part of that may be due to the vagaries of english
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00048734 = 0.6092 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00048958 = 7.05 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.59098, Best ask: 10.59998, Bid-ask spread: 0.00900, Last trade: 10.59098, 24 hour volume: 16062.37847763, 24 hour low: 10.40000, 24 hour high: 10.67000, 24 hour vwap: 10.54632
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.59098, Best ask: 10.59998, Bid-ask spread: 0.00900, Last trade: 10.59098, 24 hour volume: 16062.37847763, 24 hour low: 10.40000, 24 hour high: 10.67000, 24 hour vwap: 10.54632
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.59098, Best ask: 10.59998, Bid-ask spread: 0.00900, Last trade: 10.59098, 24 hour volume: 16012.84847763, 24 hour low: 10.40000, 24 hour high: 10.67000, 24 hour vwap: 10.54670
smickles: thestrin1puller: this war would result in better option premiums for you
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.60000, Best ask: 10.63999, Bid-ask spread: 0.03999, Last trade: 10.60000, 24 hour volume: 16067.85771280, 24 hour low: 10.40000, 24 hour high: 10.67000, 24 hour vwap: 10.54722
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10753 @ 0.00049099 = 5.2796 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00048792 = 5.2939 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00048792 = 4.5133 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 710 @ 0.00048636 = 0.3453 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20833 @ 0.00048636 = 10.1323 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27386 @ 0.00048632 = 13.3184 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1414 @ 0.00048632 = 0.6877 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15695 @ 0.000486 = 7.6278 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8955 @ 0.000486 = 4.3521 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13795 @ 0.00048591 = 6.7031 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20055 @ 0.00048591 = 9.7449 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19145 @ 0.00048587 = 9.302 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16855 @ 0.00048587 = 8.1893 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1335 @ 0.00048581 = 0.6486 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33565 @ 0.00048581 = 16.3062 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10635 @ 0.00048576 = 5.1661 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00048576 = 8.2336 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17815 @ 0.00048576 = 8.6538 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2235 @ 0.00048564 = 1.0854 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00048564 = 5.9248 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00048564 = 7.3089 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28965 @ 0.00048564 = 14.0666 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7549 @ 0.00048561 = 3.6659 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8479 @ 0.00048526 = 4.1145 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32650 @ 0.00048794 = 15.9312 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5621 @ 0.00048526 = 2.7276 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22484 @ 0.00048525 = 10.9104 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: rillions of dollars worth of stock certificates and other paper securities that were stored in a vault in lower Manhattan may have suffered water damage from Superstorm Sandy.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9423 @ 0.00048958 = 4.6133 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19433 @ 0.00048525 = 9.4299 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16467 @ 0.00048511 = 7.9883 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00048511 = 3.8324 BTC [-]
pigeons: how's the forex stuff going kakobrekla?
pigeons: nice. good respons from bitcoin folks?
kakobrekla: idiots without money who cant do math say its a scam, the rest of the folks is making money
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00048574 = 7.9661 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: kakobrekla: interesting read. Thank you for the link
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18037 @ 0.00048499 = 8.7478 BTC [-]
jurov: kakobrekla, that's not exactly what i was expecting to hear, you know
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19673 @ 0.00048642 = 9.5693 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i don't get it. that website lifted off the insignia from the real winner and is using someone else's fsa number
mircea_popescu: you don't see a problem with this because "everyone is making money" ?
kakobrekla: i told it in the thread and its clear if one intalls MT4
Diablo-D3: [12:56:52] <mircea_popescu> i don't get it. that website lifted off the insignia from the real winner and is using someone else's fsa number
kakobrekla: that bottom logo though, yea it should be replaced with a more apropriate one - they wanted to have some mt4 award listed
drekk: mircea_popescu, how can you tell?
kakobrekla: i wouldnt go out on this if i wasnt sure whats happenin
kakobrekla: also, i keep all deposits and now they want me to keep the profits too
mircea_popescu: so the story here is, some people you know irl rented out offices from virtual-serviced-offices.co.uk
kakobrekla: dunno what was bought at which point but i can ask if you really wanna know
kakobrekla: you can check its not a bucketshop - admd is the currenex link provider
mircea_popescu: honestly, there's two constructions that can be made on the data as-is. either these are some kids with a bright idea and absolutely no clue on how these things work, or else it's as deep as the tar pit goes.
mircea_popescu: but putting awards and fsa numbers on a site that can't be backed up is asking for trouble
kakobrekla: the guy in charge was in the pit in the states for ~20 years
jurov: so put some proof about THAT to the site
jurov: not whatever you have there now
jurov: and of course, explaining how one can trade currencies without any conversions from/to bitcoin whatsoever would help much
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1745 @ 0.00049032 = 0.8556 BTC [+]
jurov: i don't indeed. and i'm not alone. similar transparency like MPOE business model - only "secret sauce" is their bot's pricing
kakobrekla: the other thing, i havent mentione, i dont get paid from people who blow their acounts or cant do math
kakobrekla: there is no iniciative for me to have gather forex newbs on this
jurov: that's no proof. and then, why do you advertise at btctalk?
jurov: while even MPOE-PR did patiently explain their stuff, you're apparently too good for that.
kakobrekla: well some people seem to understand it all from the info on the site, if one cant, i advise against forex trading in any denomination.
drekk: fair enough. too many red flags for me. not touching it.
jurov: haha, i like to use her as such
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: when is SEC going after your hairy ass for offering unreg. sec for US citizens? :)
EskimoBob: fuck, I forgot to ask James for the agents name
kakobrekla: hm shitload of posts seem to be deleted
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: callin you out is not that hard :) How's your solar farm business doing?
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: I see what you did thar.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12603 @ 0.00048485 = 6.1106 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: MeSarah post is long and I do not really care about all the mining blaablaa at the moment
EskimoBob: it still amazes me what those lunatics are willing to invest and do just to make 1 USD per day an hope they can get their "investment" back in a year or never
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: yeah, I could make more money on the fucking stock market
Diablo-D3: Im not claiming some super secret investment strategy here
EskimoBob: " Diablo-D3 | EskimoBob: yeah, I could make more money on the fucking stock market " - Diablo-D3: mmm... sure you can. Do I really need to remind you of your fabulous investment portfolio, where you managed to piss away close to 90% of investors money? :) LOL
Diablo-D3: not really, because it never happened
EskimoBob: i was told you can code. Code then and make money with that
Diablo-D3: although the hilarious part is nefario may end up paying for it in the end for lying to everyone
Diablo-D3: I like how he used a fake shutdown of DMC to stall for time too
Diablo-D3: he knew what was happening long before he attacked DMC
EskimoBob: btw, where is this little shit bird usagi hiding now days?
gribble: usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 3 hours, 40 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <usagi> i don't come on irc much anymore because i am sick, but i will be back later.
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 did not know shit and the shut down was requested by form members because thy realized that Diablo-D3 is pissing the coins away
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I said lots of things. No one listened.
EskimoBob: kakobrekla: no, serious yellow fever
Diablo-D3: nefario personally walked off with about 2k of DMC's money.
EskimoBob: he was scamming some poor fuck for CC payment so he can join some jap web site
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: DMC had no BTC left at least it was not visible in the statements you published
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: since the paper of other companies is now worthless, he is obligated to fix this.
Diablo-D3: he is also obligated to repay the DMC investors in full.
Diablo-D3: I will also accept prison time as an acceptable method of repayment.
Diablo-D3: And hes not going to be able to talk his way out of that one
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: you sold unreg's sec for US citizens, are you guys going to share a cell?
Diablo-D3: and nefario as lied about the legality of glbse
Diablo-D3: I am not responsible for his actions, and I never will be.
Diablo-D3: He fucked every Bitcoin user, no matter if they invested in GLBSE or not, no mater if they invested in DMC or not
EskimoBob: no Diablo-D3, only your actions :)
Diablo-D3: Im not sure why you're standing up for that twat.
EskimoBob: no, that was Trendon, who fucked every BTC user
EskimoBob: I am not standing for that twat at all
Diablo-D3: DMC would have legitimized Bitcoin as a way to crowdfund small businesses
kakobrekla: part of glbse trouble might be ppt's but im not saying nefario is free to walk like he did
Diablo-D3: BTC could have reached $100 by the end of next year, and now it probably wont.
EskimoBob: did you forget all about that shitbag Trendon?
EskimoBob: he is the guy who really fucked us all.
pigeons: just because trendon is a shitbacg in no way whatsoever excuses nefario
EskimoBob: GLBSE crap can be fixed, what trendon and his friends did... can not
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Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: which one was Trendon again?
pigeons: glbse cannot be fixed. even if james returns the asset lists, which it reasonably appears he never will, most of those projects are screwed
Diablo-D3: pigeons: yes, DMC wont be starting back up no matter what
Diablo-D3: Im slowly going to buy back shares, and then thats it
jurov: folks, be glad it happened now. if any of it happened after bitcoin is legally recognized, that would be shit on completely different level
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: I dont do real name shit
Diablo-D3: and I never paid attention to the pirate shit anyhow
Diablo-D3: I told people it was a scam from the beginning, they didnt listen, thats their own problem
kakobrekla: yeah, but people got back more money of pirate than DMC
mircea_popescu: so you told everyone about glbse, and pirate and what else ?!
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I never said anything about glbse, you did
pigeons: let's just all decide the same person to hate on
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: and yes, I should have listened and I didnt
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