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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00049081 = 1.7178 BTC [-]
jurov: tried to research venetfx's FSA registration #194835
jurov: it belongs to some completely different entity with defunct website, dates of registration 2001 and 2003
jurov: 17 Feb 2004 Final Dissolution Notice.. so venetfx's FSA number is completely fake, too
mircea_popescu: seems that way
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1853 @ 0.00049249 = 0.9126 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.000493 = 1.972 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00049382 = 10.6665 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3470 @ 0.00049388 = 1.7138 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00049034 = 2.5988 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00049004 = 5.8315 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00048881 = 1.662 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00049021 = 5.3433 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00049034 = 2.0104 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15699 @ 0.00049277 = 7.736 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15496 @ 0.00049021 = 7.5963 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7148 @ 0.00048881 = 3.494 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 806 @ 0.00048869 = 0.3939 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: LOL @ "Facts don't match my ideology so FACTS MUST BE WRONG!!!" <-- /. comment
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19427 @ 0.00048869 = 9.4938 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35749 @ 0.0004886 = 17.467 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00048855 = 0.1954 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3851 @ 0.0004879 = 1.8789 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/towards-a-unified-exchange-protocol/ << RFC.
PsychoticBoy: ;;seen DeadTerra
gribble: DeadTerra was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <DeaDTerra> but I agree there are to much drama and BS
PsychoticBoy: thought so
mircea_popescu: heh
PsychoticBoy: should have kicked some guys in the nuts when I had the chance in London
dub: thats where netardio was building the future of bitcoin right?
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: and telling people about how mpex is a scam.
Chaang-Noi: interscamdo...
Chaang-Noi: or is it interscamgo ?
Chaang-Noi: with nefario it is really hard to dell the differance between criminal and just being so fucking retarded...
Chaang-Noi: it is hard for me to think he acidently so much
mircea_popescu: indeed.
Chaang-Noi: same with intersango and their bitcoinica stuff
dub: luckily unlike criminally insane, criminally retarded is not a valid defense afaik
Chaang-Noi: yeah we should just go with criminally retarded until we get more evidance
PsychoticBoy: Indeed
mircea_popescu: dub sure it is
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11549 @ 0.0004879 = 5.6348 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8651 @ 0.00048789 = 4.2207 BTC [-]
dub: orly?
dub: you have negligence and nuisance as offenses
dub: which can be applied to 'act of stupidity causes loss'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9349 @ 0.00048789 = 4.5613 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00048788 = 6.9767 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00048787 = 1.7075 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29451 @ 0.00048781 = 14.3665 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ya but mental retardation is like a positive defense
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 573 @ 0.00048868 = 0.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17127 @ 0.0004893 = 8.3802 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.0004893 = 10.2753 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9823 @ 0.0004893 = 4.8064 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13411 @ 0.00049277 = 6.6085 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: youawake?
mircea_popescu: yea
thestringpuller: who was saying mpex was a scam?
thestringpuller: oh nefario
thestringpuller: sorry, my logs are screwed up
mircea_popescu: :p
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00049277 = 1.3058 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4572 @ 0.00049316 = 2.2547 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: your existence is making me money
mircea_popescu: haha cool
thestringpuller: not a lot of money
thestringpuller: but it's still moolah
FabianB_: mircea_popescu: why are you standardising now that you start using json with one returning json and all other non-json?
mircea_popescu: FabianB_ come again ?
FabianB_: 11:34 < mircea_popescu> http://trilema.com/2012/towards-a-unified-exchange-protocol/ << RFC.
mircea_popescu: well yes, since it was being discussed on the forum i wrote up a proposal
FabianB_: STATJSON returns data as json
mircea_popescu: otherwise this exists as internal stuff for about a year now
FabianB_: yeah, am fine with this being mpex protocol
FabianB_: just doesn't seem polished enough to qualify as standard yet
mircea_popescu: well no, it's a proposal
mircea_popescu: people should comment
FabianB_: data as json in both directions would seem more consistent
FabianB_: even if with so few commands and payload it's easy to parse |foo|bar|baz
mircea_popescu: many of those commands are being issued by hand
mircea_popescu: json would seem like undue burden
thestringpuller: xml is an undue burden
thestringpuller: that the corporate world put on us
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00049389 = 0.889 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5852 @ 0.00049397 = 2.8907 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2248 @ 0.0004942 = 1.111 BTC [+]
FabianB_: well, yeah, by hand it's nicer than json
mircea_popescu: FabianB_ moreover, the spec is not restrictive. some exchange might decide to implement STATXML too
mircea_popescu: that's not forbidden. but it would be weird to require exchanges to accept both json and xml imput
thestringpuller: xml should be forbidden in general
FabianB_: yeah, who wants xml ;)
thestringpuller: corporations lol
FabianB_: wondering if there are papers on designing protocols for both computers/humans
mircea_popescu: anyway, in general it's a minimum standards approach
FabianB_: earlier protocols like smtp were(are) very easy to use for humans too
mircea_popescu: "have to have at least this much"
FabianB_: generally a nice aproach mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: yeah. anyway the only one with a prayer given that there's no standards body and compliance is voluntary
mircea_popescu: (maybe community-driven)
FabianB_: standards bodies are usually too slow
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3952 @ 0.0004942 = 1.9531 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0004945 = 0.4945 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19510 @ 0.00049556 = 9.6684 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: true
mircea_popescu: but the big problem is usually the lobby stuff
mircea_popescu: there rg you got fans https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121027.msg1314499#msg1314499
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.0004935 = 11.2765 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28812 @ 0.0004935 = 14.2187 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.0004897 = 7.2476 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: zomg teh interface http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq2devvvyrg&feature=youtu.be
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.0004897 = 8.937 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.0004897 = 6.6354 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00048808 = 0.1952 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26381 @ 0.00048808 = 12.876 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2449 @ 0.00048781 = 1.1946 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2590 @ 0.00048776 = 1.2633 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1685 @ 0.00049055 = 0.8266 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36500 @ 0.00049232 = 17.9697 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00049556 = 0.5947 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu:
thestringpuller: the man who created mpex
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24764 @ 0.00049079 = 12.1539 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13936 @ 0.00049063 = 6.8374 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14364 @ 0.00049063 = 7.0474 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26110 @ 0.00048776 = 12.7354 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8988 @ 0.00048769 = 4.3834 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7952 @ 0.00048759 = 3.8773 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8984 @ 0.00048759 = 4.3805 BTC [-]
jurov: so, did kakobrekla at least to try to shed some light on the accusations somehow?
jurov: or just having lulz with his boss?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 817 @ 0.20698633 = 169.1078 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: not afaik.
thestrin1puller: calls are getting sold?
jurov: what do you mean?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44700 @ 0.00049089 = 21.9428 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00048759 = 0.4632 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4648 @ 0.00048759 = 2.2663 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: http://codinginmysleep.com/bitcoinstore-com-launch-cheaper-in-bitcoin/
Diablo-D3: ohrly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32467 @ 0.00049058 = 15.9277 BTC [+]
smickles_: < jurov> so, did kakobrekla at least to try to shed some light on the accusations somehow? <<< whatnow?
jurov: i'm just interested
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6572 @ 0.00049058 = 3.2241 BTC [+]
smickles_: jurov: what accusations?
jurov: smickles_: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114821.msg1313361#msg1313361
jurov: and I put myself the FSA Registration# from bit4x site into FSA form and it was assigned to some other company that went defunct in 2004
smickles: huh
jurov: <kakobrekla> [00:14:01] i showed that posts to my superior, teh boss, he was rolling of the floor.
jurov: that was the reply
smickles: rolling of the floor?
jurov: dunno, maybe they rolled 'em together with carpet and hauled away, ya know
smickles: heh
mircea_popescu: this has all the makings of adventure
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9020 @ 0.00048886 = 4.4095 BTC [-]
jurov: i wasn't going to invest there anyway
jurov: since he wasn't able to clearly explain me here how can one trade currencies with pure BTC balance and without need for any hedging, maybe you remember
mircea_popescu: myeah
jurov: but i did not suspect such wholesale scam, then
mircea_popescu: myeah. kakobrekla you'll have to make an answer to that thing, it's ruining you.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate patrickharnett -10 Scammer of the Peter Lambert school. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user patrickharnett has been recorded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4380 @ 0.00048886 = 2.1412 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12935 @ 0.00048764 = 6.3076 BTC [-]
smickles: fwiw, :o
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15965 @ 0.00048764 = 7.7852 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7435 @ 0.00048759 = 3.6252 BTC [-]