assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25448 @ 0.00049132 = 12.5031 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1548 @ 0.00049188 = 0.7614 BTC [+]
dub: repost of confessions of a ppt op?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00048692 = 2.0938 BTC [-]
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: that's somewhat good to know :P
dub: is it time to hire a hit yet?
dub: the whole word is bond thing swings both ways
Azelphur: I heard BrightAnarchist is interested in suing him
mircea_popescu: dub you know how all this "hire a hit" talk sounds ? like two down and out meth whores sitting in their three year old miniskirts on the curb. they don't wear underwear because they can't afford underwear.
mircea_popescu: and one goes to the other "time to call the helicopter yet ?"
dub: well its easy to take the high ground
mircea_popescu: no but seriously. a hit costs money. it doesn't pay 7% a month. ergo.
dub: yes yes, you were right, well done.
dub: and certainly some were way to deep in that poo pond
dub: I lost pocket change but I'd happily contribute to preventing him continuing this career of fuckwitery
dub: given proximity I would gleefully mete out at least some disfigurement myself
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00049188 = 16.9699 BTC [+]
dub: its been a long time, to feel of skin and bone cracking under my fists, what better justice is there?
dub: I would have thought this fit with the libertarian ideal, eye for an eye oslt
dub: avoidable but not the end of the world (btdt)
dub: depends on circumstances, if there was hope of winning I might, otherwise take the court appointed monkey and a conviction
dub: justice and the greater good?
dub: yeah why not? dude that looks like elephant man will have a harder time with confidence tricks
dub: well hit I think traditionally means 'impact'
dub: but colloquially, whatever
mircea_popescu: but anyway : you're flat out wrong. dude that looks like elephant man has a much easier time scamming everyone
dub: so you would rather what? smugly admonish the suckers and allow this scum to continue victimising people?
mircea_popescu: well, i wasn't trading with him to begin with, for the exact reasons, but as an academic point.
dub: what about the next guy, or innocent old lady
mircea_popescu: old lady should retain the services of someone who's not innocent.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1916 @ 0.00048879 = 0.9365 BTC [-]
dub: perhaps cultural expectations
mircea_popescu: but don't you think in principle it's more efficient to hire counsel before than to break bones after ?
dub: theres a cost benefit relationship
dub: at high school your buddy wants to borrow $5 for a donut from the tuckshop, do you hire lawyers first or twist his arm later?
dub: replace twist arm with cry to mommy if need be
dub: I don't understand how a libertarian is in favor of adding consultation tax to every transaction in life (then I don't understand libertarians much)
mircea_popescu: well for one point im not terribly concerned with a labeling, so i dunno that i am libertarian or anything.
mircea_popescu: but your school example is very bad, because a. you're in close proximity and b. in most cultures kids are supposed to twist each others' arms all through kid years.
mircea_popescu: doing a little more or a little less has overall little impact.
mircea_popescu: suppose your wife cheats on you (and you care). do you kill her or pick a better woman next time ?
dub: well I think it translates ok
dub: a) he is acting like a child b) there are peopl ein proximity who can achieve result
mircea_popescu: well, i could argue it's child abuse to try and find children to do stupid things. rather than have them beat up pirate you might as well fuck them, end result's the same.
mircea_popescu: and otherwise, a system which relies on being sufficiently childish seems a little... unappealing.
mircea_popescu: the only way violence works in the frame you wish to use it is as a manifestation of dominance.
dub: I must go now and drink copiously
mircea_popescu: if you could beat up pirate with impunity and regularity (such as the state does) then maybe.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, hit and run affairs... he'll just count himself wronged.
smickles: how well does beating someone up get your money back anyway?
smickles: or what's the benefit otherwise, i don't see much to gain in it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2584 @ 0.00048879 = 1.263 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6851 @ 0.0004898 = 3.3556 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1781 @ 0.0004898 = 0.8723 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12852 @ 0.00049188 = 6.3216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28164 @ 0.00049197 = 13.8558 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00048878 = 6.3541 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00048878 = 4.008 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: in all seriousness this months puts expire at 1159pm UTC Oct 26
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10673 @ 0.0004893 = 5.2223 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: can i interview you one day warren buffet style and put it on reddit?
pigeons: thestringpuller: what is that brown stuff on your nose?
thestringpuller: without smickles i wouldnt have been able to get options while itm
mircea_popescu: get on kakobrekla's case to add mpex support in smpake
thestringpuller: maybe one day when im golfing i can call jurov and be all "sell sell sell sell"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14654 @ 0.00049197 = 7.2093 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.0004921 = 5.3147 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21956 @ 0.00049259 = 10.8153 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller spmpake is like a send money early thing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.0004912 = 16.1605 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37527 @ 0.0004893 = 18.362 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28900 @ 0.00048878 = 14.1257 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00048692 = 0.7791 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11558 @ 0.00048633 = 5.621 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00048438 = 8.0891 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00048423 = 4.9876 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16146 @ 0.0004841 = 7.8163 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13159 @ 0.00048393 = 6.368 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00048265 = 7.5776 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39912 @ 0.00048164 = 19.2232 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.56782, Best ask: 10.59400, Bid-ask spread: 0.02618, Last trade: 10.53800, 24 hour volume: 79094.75129794, 24 hour low: 10.52000, 24 hour high: 11.37000, 24 hour vwap: 10.86052
jurov: thestringpuller, you'll need both me and mircea to expedite deposits :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7619 @ 0.00047423 = 3.6132 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5185 @ 0.00047462 = 2.4609 BTC [+]
jurov: heh, apparently i have to lay down with cold to start things moving
jurov: oh my engrish... i got cold yesterday and went to bed soon
mircea_popescu: one point : the format for stat might change in the future, but not too soon. i expect everyone who uses stats programatically to move to statjson in the coming months.
jurov: haha thestringpuller...you already know my hourly rate for development... multiply it by any odd prime and i'll do some phonesex..er.. brokerage
mircea_popescu: prolly should ping smickles about this too. who else... brendio's not on i see
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.60103, Best ask: 10.68729, Bid-ask spread: 0.08626, Last trade: 10.69123, 24 hour volume: 78962.39488685, 24 hour low: 10.52000, 24 hour high: 11.37000, 24 hour vwap: 10.85370
thestringpuller: smickles if you arent able to push the options to jurov before 2359 utc could you exercise the options for me?
EskimoBob: autoexercise = lay in bed and get fit
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.54624, Best ask: 10.62728, Bid-ask spread: 0.08104, Last trade: 10.62739, 24 hour volume: 78876.67072837, 24 hour low: 10.52000, 24 hour high: 11.37000, 24 hour vwap: 10.85330
gribble: 1 BTC = 10.62739 U.S. dollars = 8.21536024 Euros
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13621 @ 0.00047677 = 6.4941 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.54624, Best ask: 10.62716, Bid-ask spread: 0.08092, Last trade: 10.62716, 24 hour volume: 78834.66719548, 24 hour low: 10.52000, 24 hour high: 11.37000, 24 hour vwap: 10.85285
jurov: what is "md5Checksum" from JSONSTAT for?
mircea_popescu: so you can use it to check sections integrity if presented with the cleartext signed document
mircea_popescu: gives a little armor-y strength to cleatext without actually going armor.
jurov: i guessed as much.. but can't find out how to compute the checksum
jurov: "Book":[{"2975392":{"MPSIC":"S.MPOE", "BS":"B", "Quantity":"20000", "Price":"21000"}},
jurov: {"md5Checksum":"356265b8eb6a38ac64536447c0070954"}],
jurov: echo -n '{"2975392":{"MPSIC":"S.MPOE", "BS":"B", "Quantity":"20000", "Price":"21000"}}' | md5sum
jurov: i see only \n after "Price":"21000"}},
mircea_popescu: echo -n '{"2975392":{"MPSIC":"S.MPOE", "BS":"B", "Quantity":"20000", "Price":"21000"}},
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23112 @ 0.00048 = 11.0938 BTC [+]
jurov: *snatches this to project wiki
jurov: gonna have some autoexercise now.. see you later
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00047677 = 3.242 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35800 @ 0.00047724 = 17.0852 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00047724 = 5.3451 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00047724 = 2.1953 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39000 @ 0.00048 = 18.72 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4875 @ 0.00047677 = 2.3243 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00047558 = 13.2211 BTC [-]
mod6: mircea_popescu: so there is JSONSTAT nao!? :D
mod6: so one would just use JSONSTAT instead of stat and then per the reqest they get an pgp encrypted/signed JSON output of the STAT?
mod6: (This is going to be helpful to show the users STAT in BitOTTer -- instead of doing a bunch of parsing against the formatting.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.45101, Best ask: 10.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04899, Last trade: 10.50000, 24 hour volume: 74462.49957867, 24 hour low: 10.37300, 24 hour high: 11.15000, 24 hour vwap: 10.69639
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4628 @ 0.00047558 = 2.201 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00047487 = 1.8045 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34900 @ 0.00047351 = 16.5255 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9390 @ 0.00047072 = 4.4201 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14010 @ 0.00047061 = 6.5932 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2772 @ 0.00047351 = 1.3126 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37300 @ 0.00047378 = 17.672 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5742 @ 0.00047378 = 2.7204 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 9.88000, Best ask: 9.89919, Bid-ask spread: 0.01919, Last trade: 9.89919, 24 hour volume: 95950.94904574, 24 hour low: 9.80000, 24 hour high: 11.12590, 24 hour vwap: 10.53361
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00047097 = 12.5749 BTC [-]
gribble: Current Blocks: 205090 | Current Difficulty: 3072321.7320208 | Next Difficulty At Block: 205631 | Next Difficulty In: 541 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 13 hours, 3 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3213027.65513633 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.57979129103
gigavps: Chaang-Noi more fun for the rest of us
gigavps: looks like we're getting a little bounce here before back below $10
Chaang-Noi: i wonder if someone is just messing with the price to have options hit
jurov: dunno, mpoe is using 24hr average, it needs more serious nudge to be affected
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00047061 = 4.1884 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13274 @ 0.00047061 = 6.2469 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13026 @ 0.0004701 = 6.1235 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40174 @ 0.0004701 = 18.8858 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00047009 = 1.3633 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2126 @ 0.00047 = 0.9992 BTC [-]
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 hours, 39 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <smickles> or what's the benefit otherwise, i don't see much to gain in it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00047 = 3.666 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00043602 / 0.0004728 / 0.00049259 (1711086 shares, 809.00 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.00037572 / 0.00049259 (87757519 shares, 32,972.81 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28815 @ 0.00047066 = 13.5621 BTC [+]
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 16 hours, 29 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <smickles> or what's the benefit otherwise, i don't see much to gain in it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17174 @ 0.00047097 = 8.0884 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9026 @ 0.00047514 = 4.2886 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 9.94798, Best ask: 9.94800, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 9.94798, 24 hour volume: 89460.44746472, 24 hour low: 9.74000, 24 hour high: 10.95000, 24 hour vwap: 10.42133