assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.36030003 = 1.8015 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "I tried finding information about the london conf, pictures, video, anything... and failed."
smickles: didn't nefario say he was there
mircea_popescu: and nefario is involved in bitcoin because he runs the main bitcoin scam site.
smickles: it being in london, i kinda forgotit was happening
mircea_popescu: seriously tho, have a conference and there's not a fucking blogpost anywhere about it ?
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5600 @ 0.00030358 = 1.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8800 @ 0.0002997 = 2.6374 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1600 @ 0.00029487 = 0.4718 BTC [-]
smickles: didn't they get wrapped in a scandal and stop, but "we" had the confrence anyway?
mircea_popescu: well, intersango guys (taaki, stateman, the other guy) + nefario were organising it.
mircea_popescu: then the first three turned out somewhere in the doubtfull to scammer continuum
mircea_popescu: so now nefario isn't admitting he works for (not with) them
nefario: mircea_popescu: we never went to the moon, it's a hoax
mircea_popescu: and incidentally, it occurs to me i still don't see your connection to bitcoin.
smickles: guys, it's just me here it seems, no need for the tit for tat
__Atlas__: I don't see Ven doing well in 2013 with food shortages.
__Atlas__: Bitcoin? Junkies will still be junkies.
Obsi: nefario: looks like I may buy METAL & METAL.SILVER is the transfer to my account easy, or should I just have him send login details and change the pass?
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 2 @ 0.073 = 0.146 BTC [+]
Obsi: I will be buying the assets, are you able to put them under my umbrella account or do I need to use his?
Obsi: the assets as a whole
nefario: you're going to buy them all?
Obsi: I'm going to become the asset issuer for them
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.0908 = 0.1816 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 17 @ 0.08952001 = 1.5218 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.08952 = 0.3581 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2300 @ 0.00029487 = 0.6782 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00038598 = 0.6948 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23632 @ 0.00038584 = 9.1182 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 14 @ 0.08800001 = 1.232 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 98 @ 0.088 = 8.624 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 739 @ 0.32735338 = 241.9141 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 900 @ 0.42446177 = 382.0156 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 204 @ 0.00019 = 0.0388 BTC [-]
Obsi: yeah was supposed to be 0.0005
__Atlas__: Would you guys be willing to speculate on American Confederate dollars from the late 1800s?
mircea_popescu: Obsi what's your float on .hrpt ? i mean, the 10bn glbbq lists minus whatever you hold in treasury ?
__Atlas__: Smoovious: a minimum grade would be accepted into the pool, yes
__Atlas__: As for redeeming a GLBSE confederate dollar for a real one
Obsi: not sure what you mean mircea_popescu, can you clarify?
mircea_popescu: glbse lists obsi.hrpt as having issued 100k shares i think ? presumably not all those were sold, you still hold some.
mircea_popescu: what is your float ? how many shares are out there in the hands of people other than yourself
Obsi: it lists in the dividend table, I think it is 50,536
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 100 @ 0.32 = 32 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 80 @ 0.32 = 25.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00038712 = 4.7229 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00038872 = 12.2058 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5788 @ 0.00038872 = 2.2499 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Please tell me what's too good to be true? 4-5 different competitors have all announced ASICs, and they're all within similar performance and price ranges."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00038908 = 14.3181 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6388 @ 0.00038988 = 2.4906 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00038996 = 2.3398 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10149 @ 0.00039029 = 3.9611 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33846 @ 0.00039162 = 13.2548 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.0003921 = 7.4891 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00039451 = 9.8628 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.00039469 = 15.7087 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39700 @ 0.00039899 = 15.8399 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.000415 = 20.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.000416 = 20.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15829 @ 0.00041632 = 6.5899 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: people seem to not be able to comprehend that the reason 4-5 people announced asics is that... 4-5 people announced asics.
mircea_popescu: social media and it's pernicious effects still isn't comprehended in general.
gribble: Nick 'Bugpowder', with hostmask 'Bugpowder!47ab6a02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.171.106.2', is not identified.
Bugpowder: dude you need me to gpg that shit up?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.08900001 = 0.534 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 19 @ 0.089 = 1.691 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE:OBSI.HRPT] [Bid: 0.08900001] [Ask: 0.09447999] [Spread: 0.00547998] [Last: 0.089] [24hVol: 279.61173141] [7dAvg: 0.09946976]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 18 @ 0.089 = 1.602 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.088 = 0.176 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.0863 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.08620001 = 0.1724 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 99 @ 0.0862 = 8.5338 BTC [-]
Obsi: hold on ter yur butts
smickles: iirc, the dinosaurs escape now
Obsi: I am sick of all these mofo dinos all over this mofo island
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 37 @ 0.085 = 3.145 BTC [-]
smickles: that line was ahead of its time, and no one seems to remember it
__Atlas__: Is Bitcoin a seller's market or a buyer's market?
Obsi: Did nef say he wasn't approving any more assets by us unknown folk?
Diablo-D3: no, nef said hes going to steal all the money and run with it
Obsi: maybe we can pick up the bitcoins that fall from his pockets as he runs
nefario: Obsi: approval of assets has been moved to a board
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.089 = 0.356 BTC [+]
Obsi: I'd like to start a METAL.COPPER
nefario: I don't know since it's removed it from me
Diablo-D3: I wish I had a planking joke to go with this
nefario: he can give you better advice than me
Obsi: how to bribe board pls?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 11 @ 0.085 = 0.935 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: nefario: but have you moved shutting down assets to the board?
smickles: Obsi: you make me want to make a bad joke
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.08499999 = 0.255 BTC [-]
smickles: ofcourse, it's the context taht makes it funny
__Atlas__: Smoovious: There's now a 5 BTC application fee
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5200 @ 0.00029487 = 1.5333 BTC [-]
nefario: Smoovious: and then a 7BTC listing fee if your application is approved
nefario: you get 7BTC listing fee back
Obsi: How many people on board?
smickles: Up? that's less than mpoe.etf paid
__Atlas__: I am very sad that the rest of the Breaking Bad season isn't coming out until next year
nefario: whats the listing fee for mpex?
Diablo-D3: mpex still charges 20btc to just trade there
smickles: Diablo-D3: mpoe.etf started when it was 20btc, v1
Diablo-D3: its not like glbse is a real stock market
__Atlas__: Diablo-D3: There's a lot of profit to be made in the options market
Diablo-D3: theres no facebooks here for nefario to fuck up
smickles: nefario: the listing fee for mpex is not set, it's agreed to during the process of listing
Diablo-D3: __Atlas__: no one gives a fuck about options
nefario: Diablo-D3: if it's a real stock market, then it must be regulated by the romanian financial regulator right?
nefario: smickles: so you make a deal then
nefario: if mpex is based on US servers it needs to be regulated by the SEC if it's a real stock market
__Atlas__: I don't even think Romania has a functioning government.
mircea_popescu: nefario i've been perusing with much amusement your summaries of discussions with "lawyers"
smickles: mircea_popescu: you can probably answer the question of the charge to list on mpex better than i can
nefario: do you have lawyers in Romania?
smickles: what does it cost to list an asset on mpex? it varies, right?
Diablo-D3: I swear the US government just makes up countries
Diablo-D3: like israel... "the land of the jews" in the middle of a muslim shithole
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: I thought obama said 58
__Atlas__: Diablo-D3: That was more intentional than they want you to believe.
Diablo-D3: Im surprised romney hasnt brought that up
Diablo-D3: I mean, he meant to say 48 since he cant visit alaska and hawaii due to the tight campaign schedule
__Atlas__: Romney has pretty much given Israel a marriage proposal.
Diablo-D3: but HURRRR LYING KENYAN DERP DERP DERP
smickles: nefario: Comisia Nationala a Valorilor Mobiliare
Diablo-D3: for a morman, he loves rich and powerful jewish men
Diablo-D3: <mitt> their... money... and... their.... cut penises.... oh God..... someone get me a towel
Diablo-D3: <ayn rand> ugh, someone get be a bucket, I'm going to puke
Diablo-D3: they're a product of broken US foreign relations
__Atlas__: Smoovious: I don't you've seen the Palestenian slums
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: you do know how israel was created, right?
__Atlas__: Israel is pretty much the Third Reich in reverse
Diablo-D3: shortly after WW2, to "help" the displaced german jews that ran back to their biblical homeland...
Diablo-D3: we created a nation out of nothing
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 romania existed much before there was an england.
__Atlas__: Technically the Rothschilds financed most of it.
Diablo-D3: its not the israel of the bible. it is a new nation founded out of nothing from stolen land.
Diablo-D3: I dont blame every muslim country being in an uproar
__Atlas__: The Rothschild family owns 70% or more of the land in Israel.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: yeah, but the muslims wont let it go
__Atlas__: Smoovious: We're talking decades now and there are still slums and killings.
Diablo-D3: no one who was apart of this are even alive
Diablo-D3: the "greatest generation" are almost all dead
__Atlas__: The Israelis actually limit the food going into Gaza
smickles: mircea_popescu: nef was asking about the sec of romania
__Atlas__: They intentionally starve these people.
Diablo-D3: look at the entire arab sphere... do you know what country has the most muslims in positions of power, either politically or in business? israel.
mircea_popescu: __Atlas__ much like the new us federal mandates on school lunches ?
Diablo-D3: seriously, read what I wrote three times
Diablo-D3: if you're muslim, the safest country to live in over there is israel
__Atlas__: Smoovious: That's a load of shit. The Gaza strip and other Pal. lands get smaller and smaller.
smickles: i'm going to needlessly eat som more food
Diablo-D3: you dont have your own government trying to kill you
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.084 = 2.1 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: muslims and jews live and work side by side
__Atlas__: I guess it would be acceptable for Native Americans to force all of the current US citizens into one plot of land.
__Atlas__: That's just how war should be after all.
Diablo-D3: __Atlas__: yes, and I wouldnt blame them
Diablo-D3: every white man who was born in the US should feel shame for what our ancestors did
__Atlas__: Ugh, you know, you guys go ahead and get fucked in the ass. I'll defend where I stand to the death regardless of history.
__Atlas__: Yes, I should just listen to the higher powers
__Atlas__: Everybody else uses guns and violence, Diablo-D3.
__Atlas__: There is no winning just letting yourself get pushed around.
Diablo-D3: They simply have nothing they can threaten me with.
smickles: there is no winning because it isn't a game :/
Diablo-D3: To me, someone like Hitler was just a young child having a temper tantrum
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: african american IS a racist term
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: you can choose to not continue it
smickles: i'm a decendant of the first govenor of plymouth iirc
Diablo-D3: I dunno, maybe I really should just start a religion
jcpham: ooh ya'll are chatting it up
Diablo-D3: if you're human, you're one of us.
jcpham: let me read my buffer and get caught up
Diablo-D3: I dont get the point of violence, it solves nothing.
Diablo-D3: Like, you know whats screwed up? Take the American middle class as the measuring stick of "no one should live worse than this"
jcpham: everything is solved through violence
Diablo-D3: we have enough resources on earth to give that to everyone
Diablo-D3: you know why there are so many shit countries? because we squander the resources
jcpham: currency however prevents violience and encourages trade
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: see, that brings up an interesting thing
mircea_popescu: jcpham just favours one sort of violence over another.
Diablo-D3: martin luther king jr set in motion what allowed obama to become president
Diablo-D3: any white man could become a nigger.
jcpham: is it fbruary Diablo-D3
Diablo-D3: And theres nothing you can do for them because they choose to be this way
jcpham: why is everyone saying nigger
copumpkin: Diablo-D3: you've just said nothing
Diablo-D3: but people of ALL races must come together and make it happen
jcpham: i taking everyone's names and calling the bitcoin-police
__Atlas__: Peace doesn't overthrow governments and tyranny. Never will.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: he just wanted his own people to stand up and BE people
copumpkin: why is this crap relevant to -assets?
__Atlas__: I'm tired of the no-guns, let's all sit down on our asses and everything will be fine attitude.
__Atlas__: No, it will not be fine unless you enjoy labor camps and soylent green.
jcpham: assets is the new channel
jcpham: that was that other channel
jcpham: and before that it was that other channel
smickles: ya know, i remember being told of my ancestor establishing and signing a peace treaty with the natives
jcpham: they were smart smickles
__Atlas__: How is a peace treaty enforced? Mutually assured destruction.
__Atlas__: It takes a stable market between warring nations in order to have peace.
__Atlas__: You can't have one weaker than the other.
smickles: __Atlas__: actually, it was 50 years of peace which was broken when outside forces attacked the natives
__Atlas__: You still think you have a choice in your government?
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12100 @ 0.00029349 = 3.5512 BTC [-]
__Atlas__: I will just end this with that you can't have an effective government of anything unless you have a populace that can overthrow it.
Diablo-D3: people have to be governed willingly
Diablo-D3: anytime enough people fight being governed, the whole system grinds to a halt
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 75 @ 0.084 = 6.3 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: why do you think the US is such a pile of shit? both sides are fighting each other instead of just letting it happen
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.083 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: the government is lopsided because it caters to the needs of the rich far too often
__Atlas__: Let's just bring the Articles of Confederation back
__Atlas__: Diablo-D3: Yes, because who has the power?
Diablo-D3: __Atlas__: the group with the most guns, really.
Diablo-D3: not when it comes to a full blown civil war
Diablo-D3: people will protect themselves and their families first
Diablo-D3: we ARE headed in that direction, and its not something I wish to see
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 13 @ 0.0801 = 1.0413 BTC [-]
__Atlas__: I like to see the art of war as a market of asks and bids.
Diablo-D3: the government wastes resources because it doesnt understand how to govern itself efficiently
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: yes, but thats just a small part of the bigger picture
OneMiner: The thing is that we (people) are very much in tune with taking sides and joining forces against the "enemy". It's against human nature to work together when we can be seperated so easily.
Diablo-D3: you're either for the united states or you're against it
__Atlas__: Well, I'm against it, my friend. The federal government can go fuck it self.
Diablo-D3: __Atlas__: the federal government isnt the united states
Diablo-D3: they are only employees that serve the public at large
smickles: Diablo-D3> there IS no party. < like a west coast party?
Diablo-D3: when I say the united states, I mean the people who live here
Diablo-D3: we have a diverse population in every meaning of the word, yet we all deserve the same basic freedoms
Diablo-D3: everyone deserves an education, a job, food on the table, a roof over their head
OneMiner: It's up to us to rise above our genetic programing and work as a group. This is unlikely.
Diablo-D3: but the government continues to mismanage support services that make these happen
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: they have the right to _have_ it
__Atlas__: Are people obligated to give others certain things?
__Atlas__: Are people inherently slaves to others?
Diablo-D3: if someone wants to get up at 6 a clock in the morning and work 8-10 hours a day, yes, they HAVE that right
__Atlas__: Positive rights are basically calls for forced labor.
OneMiner: There's an obligation to your fellow man. It takes a psycho to say otherwise absolutely.
Diablo-D3: millions of people have CHOSEN that, yet the government continues to destroy any chance they have at a job
__Atlas__: OneMiner: Call me a psycho. I am no slave.
__Atlas__: I will help others because I WANT TO
OneMiner: Slave = those how help others in need?
__Atlas__: Not because God or the government or some morality tells me to
Diablo-D3: most people in the US are employed by a small business
Diablo-D3: why does the government continue to fuck over small businesses
__Atlas__: If you will kill me because I don't feed you, it's slavery.
smickles: __Atlas__: yeah, positive rights seem icky, to say the least
Diablo-D3: if the majority of people have chosen to work and are unable to get a job, why doesnt the government just step out of the way and let the system work
Diablo-D3: it isnt because they're evil or greedy or any of the shit Libertarians say, its because they're incompetent
Diablo-D3: but they arent in charge of the people
OneMiner: How do you describe what you live in? What is it that lets us live in such comfort other than a society?
Diablo-D3: their job is to make sure the gears of the system continue turning, nothing more
Diablo-D3: when they believe that they are anything more than that, then we have a problem
OneMiner: If it is a socitety then that does imply an obligation, in no uncertain terms.
Diablo-D3: and I think we do, indeed, have a problem
__Atlas__: OneMiner: I don't need other people. Other people shouldn't need me.
__Atlas__: I can go ahead and dig roots out of the ground if I need to.
OneMiner: I have no need for people with this mindset.
__Atlas__: The Earth provides enough on its own.
__Atlas__: Well, I am sorry I am not your house wife.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: you may think that Im wrong here, but Im not. people have a right to live a normal average life, if nothing else.
OneMiner: You could give me millions of em, what are they good for __Atlas__?
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: the constitution does not give us our rights, _we_ give us our rights
Diablo-D3: its something every American has to agree to to live here
Diablo-D3: you help make society function, and we all work towards this goal along side you
__Atlas__: OneMiner: I value choice. I value living on my own terms. You value guaranteed comfort and security.
Diablo-D3: there is no communism or socialism or any other such bullshit
OneMiner: I value the collective good. I value our shared ideals. I'd put you out if you were on fire and I wouldn't ask for anything in return.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: not at all, because theres no sides to the issue at all
__Atlas__: OneMiner: I would do the same but not out of any obligation.
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Diablo-D3: either we all succeed, or none of us do.
__Atlas__: It would be something in return for me: You living.
Diablo-D3: like I said, there is no communism or socialism
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.09444999 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: its how human society forms itself naturally
__Atlas__: Life in general to me is selfish profit.
__Atlas__: There is no sacrifice in willing actions.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: am I a communist just because I once gave a starving person food? no, it means Im a human being.
__Atlas__: I think people would end up agreeing if we had a better vocabulary.
Diablo-D3: the best possible government takes the best features of EVERYTHING
Diablo-D3: the best of communism, the best of socialism, the best of democracy
__Atlas__: The best possible governance is multiple governments competing for citizens.
Diablo-D3: the US government is slowly turning into this
Diablo-D3: __Atlas__: in a way, but we almost had that
__Atlas__: The Articles of Confederation were a beautiful thing. The British Empire hated it.
OneMiner: It is in my interest to not have starving people outside my door. It's in my interest to protect the weak. It's in my interest to compromise on my beliefs and values to a degree.
__Atlas__: OneMiner: It takes a lot for many state that. I admire you.
Diablo-D3: and it is in your interest that NO ONE starves, and NO ONE who is weak is unprotected, and NO ONE has to be FORCED to compromise on their beliefs
__Atlas__: It's in my interest to empower the weak, to arm them and to put them on equal footing with the powerful.
__Atlas__: or make them dependent on the strong.
[\\\]: I've been in here for three lines and you've already pissed me off
__Atlas__: \\\: So the weak should remain weak?
[\\\]: no, you should shut the hell up
[\\\]: I didn't agree or disagree
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: yes, but imagine this... what if everything the government has to do could be ran on just 10% of your income.
[\\\]: I said you should shut the hell up
[\\\]: there is a difference
__Atlas__: Well your suggestion is duly noted.
[\\\]: the initial statement isn't a suggestion
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: no more sickness, no more starving huddled masses, no more insane competition for resources among the weak and the poor
[\\\]: I dont need to put you on ignore
[\\\]: you should shut the hell up
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Diablo-D3: Smoovious: everyone gets an education, everyone gets to spend their lives doing something that is meaningful to them
__Atlas__: \\\: So, should the weak be kept weak and dependent?
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: everyone has a right to live an honest life.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: that goes beyond government or religion or any other Earthly concept.
Diablo-D3: its a right given to us by whatever creator you believe in.
Diablo-D3: the federal government is not a nameless faceless organization
OneMiner: Go ahead and make fun but I think Star Treak pained an achievalbe future. Beyond money and beyond position to a degree. It's within our powers to have world peace and whatever else we want. Not in our lifetimes but not so much longer than that ether.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00039777 = 3.2219 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: yes, but look at what it took
Diablo-D3: a third world war that wiped out 2/3rds of the world population
jcpham: the star trek future depends on free resources
Diablo-D3: replicators were not invented until after kirk.
jcpham: kirk knew what money was and picard didn't
OneMiner: Replicators are not free. They take time to make and design. Hard word would have to go into it.
Diablo-D3: replicators use a LOT of energy to run
__Atlas__: \\\: I wish we could have a discussion. I'm interest in your disagreement.
jcpham: [\\\]alines or magnets
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: no, they figured out how to create mass out of nothing
Diablo-D3: which is extremely dangerous when you think about it
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: it abuses the same laws of physics that the holodeck uses to give photons mass
OneMiner: nonono. This is fun. Who the hell reads this chan anyways?
Diablo-D3: but they're sitting on a reactor that produces more energy than the modern day earth produces yearly.
[\\\]: are we really debating fucking star trek personality?
jcpham: OneMiner: serious investors
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: what kirk had would be enough to run the entire planet
__Atlas__: Yes, the means to acquire energy can be made efficient enough to where it's considered "free"
[\\\]: jcpham: I'm gonna poke you in the eye with a magnet
OneMiner: jcpham I started reading about all the "investment options" good lord.... There's too much material.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: compared to what we have, its free.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: well, thats the thing, we dont even know what mass exactly is yet
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: we just dont know how to convert energy back into mass yet
jcpham: assbot needs to start laying down the banhammer on atlas more
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: hell, we just only recently proved the existence of the subatomic particle that makes matter matter.
OneMiner: Fusion is pretty close. That could bridge the gap.
jcpham: well once we fly around space will have free energy, or nearly free
__Atlas__: Free only means acquiring something with little to no cost.
jcpham: because it's likea requiremnet
jcpham: to travel from star system to sytem
Diablo-D3: the thing is, energy production is a run away process
Diablo-D3: look at what a few solar manufacturing plants did.... their biggest drain on resources is electricity
Diablo-D3: many plants have panels _from that plant_ on the roof.
OneMiner: This one planet thing is for the birds, now that you brought it up. Gotta get outta' here, if it's the last thing we ever do.
jcpham: How would DMC mine bitcoins from a starship
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: I would like to retire and live the rest of my life on mars, to be honest
Diablo-D3: jcpham: star trek has large scale quantum computing
jcpham: assume the system is still earthly
jcpham: and you have to relay commands back home
Diablo-D3: oh, you mean the speed of light problem?
OneMiner: Mars is the only option. For everything. One rock from space could take us out. Bunkers be damned, that's no protection.
jcpham: pretty poor mining outfit
Diablo-D3: star trek solved it by putting normal communications in warp bubbles
Diablo-D3: the bubble collapses near the destination
Diablo-D3: you'd basically need a whole new chain for mars
Diablo-D3: and manually transfer wealth between them using off-chain exchanges
jcpham: or some type of interstellar backbone
Diablo-D3: jcpham: doesnt matter, the ten minute block lag is too much
Diablo-D3: takes 14 minutes to get a signal from mars most of the time
OneMiner: I was totally serious BTW. Star Treak could be real. If you think not, it's a failure of the imagination. We stand on the edge of so many things.
jcpham: so bitcoin is totally terrestrial
Diablo-D3: the only reason we havent solved every problem, basically, is lack of imagination
__Atlas__: Smoovious: You can move space itself as fast as you want.
Diablo-D3: well, thats what a star trek warp drive is
Diablo-D3: the ship is standing still in local space
Diablo-D3: local space is inside of a hyperspace bubble
Diablo-D3: the bubble is moving at superluminal speeds
jcpham: it's a source of energy we can barely imagine
Diablo-D3: yeah, it probably can be done, but it takes a fucking shitload of energy
Diablo-D3: metric shitload, before anyone asks
OneMiner: Smoovious the thing is it's all relative. The light speed is relative to light speed. Time slows for those who go so fast. So the same thing is happening to that light. It can't overtake light.
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: yes, but theres another thing
[\\\]: All this geekery makes me horny
Diablo-D3: so if you're traveling at 80% of the speed of light, the photons are already at the speed of light on creation
jcpham: we're talking more energy than say a sun, right
Diablo-D3: jcpham: no, the entire output of the sun could probably power a warp drive for a short period
Diablo-D3: but then we're looking at dyson collection arrays
jcpham: the science behind that reaction is untold energies
Diablo-D3: jcpham: we've done matter/antimatter reactions in the lab already
jcpham: i'm behind on my science
Diablo-D3: you're like 20 years behind on your science
OneMiner: There's no way we know of to pack that much energy into anything. Because you'd have to accelerate the mass of your fuel too. It's impossible based on what we know now. Not that that means mutch.
Diablo-D3: you can not go ftl with conventional physics
OneMiner: Bah, everything is relative. That has to do with human society too.
Diablo-D3: since time effectively stops from the perspective of outside the ship, you never burn that last ounce of fuel to go as fast as the speed of light
Diablo-D3: the interesting thing is, if you fired of photons, you'd never see them get reflected back
Diablo-D3: you'd essentially be chasing them dead on
Diablo-D3: lets say you were at 99.9~% of the speed of light
Diablo-D3: you fired a flashlight from the rear of the ship
Diablo-D3: or would they appear to go off at twice the speed of light from your perspective
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: you're already at the speed of light
OneMiner: From my perspective they would go shooting off at the speed of light.
Diablo-D3: and they're now moving in the opposite direction
Diablo-D3: so would they stand still from the perspective of an outside viewer, or shoot off at twice the speed of light from the perspective of someone on the ship
Diablo-D3: we dont even know where the center is
Diablo-D3: we havent seen any obvious structures in the universe that would point towards expansion
OneMiner: Smoovious we are. There are plenty of stars that are outside our field of view.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: the speed of light is local, btw
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: yes, but they're so far away they're back in time
Diablo-D3: due to the speed of light being the closest thing we have to a police box.
OneMiner: And we will never see them. They are moving away too fast.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: yes, but thats the interesting problem with large scale physics
Diablo-D3: the universe could already be contracting and we wouldnt quite know it
Diablo-D3: fucking light cones, how do they work
__Atlas__: I am led to believe we know very little about our universe.
OneMiner: We are always looking at old things. No matter what.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: well thats another thing
Diablo-D3: it could be a curved spacetime field
OneMiner: We don't know much. But we have some of it. We just started really.
Diablo-D3: we know less than a fraction of a percent of whats required to answer any worthwhile questions
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: oh its not, we already know that
__Atlas__: I believe there are other planes of perception we do not even consider.
Diablo-D3: the macro universe is at least 10 dimensions, depending on how you define macro
__Atlas__: Perception itself has yet to be quantified.
Diablo-D3: and m-theory managed to combine all the superstring theories into the same theory, since they're all essentially mirror images of the same math
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Diablo-D3: I think one of the alternate theory families is up to like 28 or some shit
OneMiner: It's safe to say that the knowledge we gain in the future will be beyond anything we know or realize today.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: I dont think there are alternate realities
Diablo-D3: actual parallel realities instead of the usual bullshit scifi shit
__Atlas__: " Superstring theory, M-theory and Bosonic string theory respectively posit that physical space has 10, 11 and 24 dimensions. These extra dimensions are said to be spatial. However, we perceive only three spatial dimensions and, to date, no experimental or observational evidence is available to confirm the existence of these extra dimensions. A possible explanation that has been suggested is that space acts as if it were "cur
__Atlas__: led up" in the extra dimensions on a subatomic scale, possibly at the quark/string level of scale or below."
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: we know what a black hole is
OneMiner: That's science. It's a theory and it's unconfirmed. Calling it a religion is an affront to all who work on expanding all we know.
Diablo-D3: well, calling it a religion isnt wrong
Diablo-D3: one of the most holy churches in the world is CERN.
__Atlas__: These theories are actually pretty reasonable
__Atlas__: Especially when it comes to the forces in our universe
Diablo-D3: if God created the entire Universe, Science really is the ultimate religion
OneMiner: I know a person who donates to CERN. I approve of this.
__Atlas__: I like to think we are all different thought processes that form the collective consciousness of the Universe and/or God
copumpkin: nefario: do you consider the lack of liquidity to be a problem for glbse?
copumpkin: are there plans to incentivize new liquidity?
nefario: of course if there is a lack of liquidity it's a problem
copumpkin: it's not what stops most people I know from keeping coins on there
__Atlas__: I think the issue is Bitcoin hasn't stopped going up yet
nefario: copumpkin: what stops people?
OneMiner: The issue is the amount of investment options and the ammount of time people are willing to invest in an investment.
mircea_popescu: the ammount of time people are willing to invest in an investment. << scary.
copumpkin: the fact that coins are tied up for an order, and can't be used elsewhere during that period
copumpkin: you considering maker/taker fee structures?
nefario: there is a lot I'm not able to talk about now
nefario: as we go through the process of legitimizing
nefario: we'll be bringing on real businesses and companies
OneMiner: I think coins should be tied up in an order. Otherwise, what good is that order? Fake orders via shell accounts (correct term?) would be a huge problem.
nefario: and investors in the real world, outside of bitcoinland
nefario: this used to be a problem in GLBSE 1.0
OneMiner: Going for a smoke. Don't talk about anythin interesting.
copumpkin: OneMiner: I'm just explaining the disincentive to leave orders there
copumpkin: OneMiner: it's a legitimate one, but there need to be sufficient incentives to make me want to do that
copumpkin: considering that an exchange thrives on liquidity, it's in nefario's interest (and ours, as a market) to make sure that as many people as possible want to do that
OneMiner: Still. To be legit the cash has to be on the table. Anything else is <legit.
assbot: [GLBSE:ASICMINER] [Bid: 0.1180001] [Ask: 0.121889] [Spread: 0.0038889] [Last: 0.119] [24hVol: 203.01535716] [7dAvg: 0.1167809]
copumpkin: as it stands, people despair over "massive drops" in "price" on glbse
copumpkin: which are caused by 100-btc transactions
nefario: copumpkin: existing markets also run like this, if you want more liquidity you get margin
copumpkin: I can sell 100 btc of even some of the most liquid stocks on glbse, and the price will crash by a major percentage
copumpkin: that means that last price is effectively meaningless
copumpkin: illiquid markets don't have meaningful prices
nefario: and it's not something we're going to be providing ourselves
copumpkin: so price should not be a consideration to people
nefario: we'll be taking someone from outside to provide it
Diablo-D3: nefario: when will glbse allow me to make unlimited bids?
nefario: but we need to be legitimised first
nefario: Diablo-D3: unlimited bids?
smickles: nefario: you gave up on the lending of assets thingimagig?
copumpkin: margin provided by the exchange infrastructure is pretty safe, since you have the power to throw margin calls in
Diablo-D3: nefario: bids stop being valid when I run out of money
nefario: there are problems with it
copumpkin: if it's provided externally without special hooks, that's dangerous
nefario: problems that are not technicalk
copumpkin: if I lend someone money/assets to trade on glbse, I can get screwed a lot harder than if you lend the same stuff to them
nefario: margin, lending assets, etc. opens up a whole sleuth of areas that are difficult to deal with from a regulation POV
smickles: copumpkin: imagine a margin call based on the current order book bids
copumpkin: sure, but nefario's in the perfect position to be able to force liquidation, but I am not
copumpkin: so he's got effectively no counterparty risk, if he implements the feature correctly
copumpkin: that's why you get clearing houses
nefario: the problems are not technical
[\\\]: who regulates glbse?
copumpkin: nefario: funny you say that, because I've heard nobody complain about that when talking about why they don't want to leave open orders on glbse
nefario: it's looking like the FSA will
copumpkin: if I'm scared of glbse's legitimacy or lack of regulation, I don't use it
nefario: Financial Services Authority
copumpkin: if I don't mind that, but don't leave open orders on it, the problem is elsewhere
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: if I have 10 BTC, I cannot place 20 BTC of bids
copumpkin: if you want to provide leverage, you need technical features to support it
Diablo-D3: why, as long as my account balance is >0, the bids are active
nefario: Diablo-D3: if we allow as many bids as people want, each bid being up to the value of the BTC they hold, and remove them when the amount of BTC available falls
copumpkin: you might not do the actual lending, but whoever does needs those features
nefario: we get a shit load of spammy orders
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: they're active until someone depletes my reserve
[\\\]: Smoovious, it worked for gox for over a year
[\\\]: bids aren't purchases
[\\\]: bids are offers to buy
[\\\]: but you could bid more than you were funded for
Diablo-D3: I would be happy to put all of DMC's spare cash towards every asset I want to provide a floor
nefario: I had this system open on GLBSE for a while when I tried to move over to the new backend
[\\\]: the bids without funds went inactive
nefario: the result was TONS of spam bids
Diablo-D3: nefario: whats wrong with spam bids?
nefario: when enough people are doing it
Diablo-D3: maybe I should just finish lugh and make my own exchange.
Diablo-D3: I sure as hell dont want to _run_ one
[\\\]: Spam bids are better than no bids
nefario: you mean the easy part about running an exchange
copumpkin: if you're short on bids, you really don't want to be restricting them
[\\\]: right now, 100 btc will take ANY asset to 0
Diablo-D3: nefario: you say its easy, yet your software, um, sucks.
copumpkin: nefario: how do you define a spam bid?
OneMiner: I'm not totaly against multiple orders on the same bitcoin, just mostly.
Diablo-D3: a lot of assets are already AT zero
[\\\]: Smoovious, so be it
[\\\]: something is better than nothing
Obsi: setting up a new disk... speakth thou favorite fs type
[\\\]: its not like they are putting sell orders in on everything at the same exact moment
nefario: It's a stupidly low bid placed in the hope of catching a mistake someone might have made inputting an order
Diablo-D3: I need to get around to working on lugh's ordered state machine shit
copumpkin: nefario: stupidly low bids will stop being effective once depth goes up, which it would anyway
copumpkin: so the incentive to place them would go away
Diablo-D3: its non-trivial in languages like erlang
copumpkin: if there are million coins worth of demand above my stupidly low bid, then I won't bother placing my stupidly low bid
nefario: liquidity problems are solved by expanding the number of buyers in the market and adding margin
copumpkin: also, you already have stupidly low bids, and they're only viable due to the lack of liquidity
smickles: blerg? were you quoting liz lemon?
copumpkin: nefario: most exchanges incentivize liquidity with maker/taker fee structures
Diablo-D3: allow a maximum of x bids, and x bids per asset
copumpkin: perhaps the balance isn't right :)
copumpkin: I elect Chaang-Noi as our new market maker
OneMiner: The main problem is that the entire bitcoin economy isn't worth more than 120 million. Illiquidity is a natural consequence as far as I can tell (not far).
nefario: yeah I'll do that with market makers
Diablo-D3: and why the fuck is steam stuck at saying "updating steam"
copumpkin: we can call Chaang-Noi The Specialist, if he wants a fancier-sounding title
copumpkin: I for one look forward to meaningful asset prices on glbse
Diablo-D3: copumpkin: but glbse does not have a sign outside syaing dead nigger storage
Chaang-Noi: time to has sell and buy every asset at once!!!
copumpkin: you should apply my goatse strategy in your market making
Diablo-D3: I havent gotten to play black mesa yet because Ive been busy :<
copumpkin: so the goatse strategy, for those of you interested
OneMiner: I played a bit. I'm stuck on some platforming.... :/
copumpkin: is where you first do a market sell order for all you're worth, then with the proceeds from that, do a market buy order for all you have
copumpkin: keep doing this until you have nothing left
OneMiner: When you play BM you realize how far we have come. I have to adjust to >10 years ago playing style to do good. lo.
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: Ive played through portal 2 several times, btw
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Diablo-D3: you do realize its been on sale for $5 before, right?
Diablo-D3: half the single player campaign is not single player, its co-op.
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: you know whats extra hilarious?
Diablo-D3: one guy Ive played co-op with on portal 2 is a game dev
Diablo-D3: he said "man, if I made a game like this, valve would sue me"
smickles: nefario: how come there isn't a market maker rebate?
Diablo-D3: "so, hows hl3 coming?" "fuck the NDA, gaben WILL EAT ME, I AM NOT A DONUT"
nefario: smickles, if I add that then I'll change the whole fee structure
nefario: with both maker and taker fees
nefario: instead of just taker fees
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: I played marathon, then I tried playing halo
Diablo-D3: the last console I owned was a saturn
OneMiner: I enjoyed the shiz out of Halo.
Diablo-D3: wine /path/to/steam.exe -no-dwrite
Diablo-D3: pleasedontcrashpleasedontcrashpleasedontcrashpleasedontcrashpleasedontcrashpleasedontcrashpleasedontcrashpleasedontcrashpleasedontcrashpleasedontcrash
OneMiner: Dear Linux, Plz get moar games so I can use you. Thanks, k bye.
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: I wonder if mass effect or mirror's edge works yet
Diablo-D3: I dont get why anyone would reboot to windows to play a game
OneMiner: lol subtract the reboot and you are good guy.
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: windows in vbox wont play games worth of shit
Diablo-D3: which is ironic since they use wined3d to do it
Diablo-D3: I get a higher frame rate running portal 2 in linux than in windows
Diablo-D3: and yes, I tested it just for the lulz
Diablo-D3: that was on my 5850 though, my 7970 gets at least 60 no matter how hard I try
OneMiner: I'm all for it. I'll switch to Linux so fast... That something would happen. But I won't, cuz AFAIK most things don't work on Linux.
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Diablo-D3: OneMiner: most things actually DO work on linux
Diablo-D3: plus, valve ported steam and source to linux about 3-4 years ago
Diablo-D3: the osx port? the linux port cleaned up to run on osx
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OneMiner: I'm on Windows for compatibility, that's all.
Diablo-D3: they'll end up porting all the source games to linux
Diablo-D3: which I own pretty much all of them except for l4d shit
OneMiner: I can use Linux GUI just fine and even some CLI. I'm not afriad of drivers or whatever. If it works, I'd use it.
Diablo-D3: man, wtf, I already have source sdk base 2006 and 2007
Diablo-D3: yet steam is downloading more of it
Diablo-D3: I wonder if steam is smart enough to only download what I need depending on the game
Diablo-D3: because I already have hl2, ep1, ep2, portal and portal 2 installed
OneMiner: Now I'm hungy and I want games AND conversation. This won't work out.
Diablo-D3: isnt that the thing they killed at the end of ghostbusters?
OneMiner: It's like a won-ton but with more stuff inside.
OneMiner: You buy them in big frozen bags from large stores.
copumpkin: OneMiner: or make them from scratch!
OneMiner: I can make wontons. That's my limit.
OneMiner: Sort of like a pierogi but better, maybe.
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OneMiner: I know. I can't help it. Who would care if they did kiss? WTF would that have to do with anything? Bah I say! BAH!
Diablo-D3: <OneMiner> W-w-w-why would I care? Hes just a republican canidate! Hrmoh!
OneMiner: hahah who cares? I know this guy, gay as gay could be. He used to be in the closet. It was hell for him and people around him. He's super gay now, going to bath houses and things. I'm happy for him.
Diablo-D3: you know what I find funny? Im double checking steam file integrity.....
OneMiner: Oh noes! I don't have room for the next one!
Diablo-D3: yeah, hl3 should be at least 9000 gigs
OneMiner: I need more SATA. Surrender your SATA, or else!
Diablo-D3: fuck sata, need some memristor sockets on the mobo
Diablo-D3: I think the only way for someone to prove they're straight is to go to a public bath house during gay hour.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 510 @ 0.0044 = 2.244 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: also, damnit, hl2 validation, 5 files failed to validate and will be reacquired
Diablo-D3: no wonder if was downloading parts of the sdks
OneMiner: I went to a Russian sauna once. That was wierd enough for me, thank you.
Diablo-D3: and I doubt it even uses a fraction of that
OneMiner: Ya but lost coast is like 10 minutes to play.
Diablo-D3: you know the jump glitch where you can air surf?
Diablo-D3: someone air surfed up the cliff side and hopped in the basket.
OneMiner: Nope. Never saw a vid. Just did it myself.
OneMiner: Sick demo or whatever it is. I like the design notes.
Diablo-D3: gotta beat the game to turn them on iirc
Diablo-D3: its really interesting the design process that goes into this
OneMiner: Ooo, I beat it.... I'll need to take a second look.
OneMiner: You know... The impossible room stumped me for a bit.
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assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 12 @ 0.0801 = 0.9612 BTC [-]
OneMiner: Holy friggin disclamer from the end of the Atlas video!
OneMiner: With that many words I could disclaim anything.
Diablo-D3: well, according to nefario, that makes you evil and in need of punishment
OneMiner: That is evil. Stupid EULAs are ment to discourage reading.
OneMiner: In my mind none of them are legal.
OneMiner: But that counts for nothing of course.
copumpkin: I don't think they've really been tested all that much
OneMiner: Ooo, product idea. Print out Apple EULA on comfy tripple ply toilet paper and sell it at a huge markup.
OneMiner: My freakin interwebs are barely fast enough for bitcoin mining.
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Diablo-D3: 10 files failed to validate on that
Diablo-D3: tf2 is 10gb, but thats grown since initial release
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.67799999 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2826 @ 0.00039308 = 1.1108 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.04 = 0.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+]
copumpkin: __Atlas__: how did you find that? the user signed up yesterday and made that single video
OneMiner: I don't get it why should I cry? Those laws (if they exist) should be struck down in a very public way and we should have a party after.
OneMiner: Probably a big party, we should tax the beer makers a bit for that too.
__Atlas__: I am trolling 4chan so hard right now.
__Atlas__: I am pretending to be a collectivist
Diablo-D3: 4chan is basically the inner most circle of hell
OneMiner: Not a fan myself, but I love the fact that it's there. It's a check of sorts. If that goes away we are in trouble.
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BTC-Mining: Well, who's interested in 0.5% fixed weekly interest?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS] 4 @ 0.695 = 2.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.08225 = 0.2468 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0823 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-BOND] 10000 @ 0.01 = 100 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 10 @ 0.00999 = 0.0999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 2 @ 0.08299 = 0.166 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Seeing the 100 BTC purchase of BTC-BOND, I guess someone was indeed interested.
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assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 582 @ 0.00029242 = 0.1702 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17068 @ 0.00038684 = 6.6026 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3932 @ 0.00039137 = 1.5389 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 4 @ 0.00999 = 0.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 19 @ 0.361 = 6.859 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: usagi: I pm'ed you yesterday, you didnt pm back :<
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.121889 = 0.2438 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: For only ∞ daily payments of 99.99$, this fabulous Scamotron 5000 can be yours! Downloading poorness will never have been this easy or this fast!
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: so its a usenet client? lawls
Diablo-D3: usagi: I beat portal 2, beginning to end, on linux
BTC-Mining: Prolly, I'm just a door to door seller.
Diablo-D3: and thats currently the most advanced source game
Diablo-D3: very few games make me want to play them over and over again
BTC-Mining: Except solving your problems! By putting you on the street.
Diablo-D3: portal 1 has a very bad problem though
Diablo-D3: Ive played though it so many times I speed run it
Diablo-D3: the same thing I do to quake1's first episode on nightmare mode
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: I ported znses to linux. point?
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assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.12199 = 1.7079 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: well, it was a great service until pagefault faggoted his way to defeat.
Diablo-D3: <pagefault, and I quote nearly verbatim> I suck dongs. All of them.
BTC-Mining: Well I have BTC to spend again. If anyone has some stock to get rid off...
BTC-Mining: And not dump on market until you sell shares for 1% of their value
copumpkin: I've been implementing that advice for ages already :)
Diablo-D3: my dick has a hardness number of 10.
Diablo-D3: usagi, this is what we call in the industry "porn".
copumpkin: I don't think theymos is very old, if not 21
Diablo-D3: usagi: yes, but did you know nefario is really a giraffe?
copumpkin: I don't keep logs, so having the omniscient one here to answer my questions is helpful
BTC-Mining: usagi seems to be under the influence of some pretty good stuff...
Diablo-D3: usagi: seriously though, if you were reeeeeaaaaaalllllly a japanese woman, you'd figure out someway to prove it.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 962 @ 0.00029242 = 0.2813 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1392 @ 0.00029235 = 0.407 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5846 @ 0.00029232 = 1.7089 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: I can't help but notice usagi's extravagance and foolishness has been quite exaggerated today. He's been saying pretty crazy stuff all day.
BTC-Mining: I can't help but notice he's also not identified.
copumpkin: [02:11:21] usagi is logged in as tsukino
copumpkin: identifying to nickserv is good enough for most verification
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0823 BTC [+]
copumpkin: that's the pronoun usagi's used before
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 14 @ 0.0044 = 0.0616 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: Since she's a vampire princess and all...
BTC-Mining: Look up Usagi Tsukino together on google. Those names, they go together.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.09146998 BTC [+]
__Atlas__: Well, I am so bored with my life, I've decide to join the National Guard.
copumpkin: indoctrination into the military isn't something I'd expect __Atlas__ to find appealing
__Atlas__: It's not indoctrination but rather
__Atlas__: protecting the constitution from within
BTC-Mining: It's the name of an hotel? Google lied to me!
copumpkin: not questioning the goals, just the means by which they are reached and how they mesh with your ideals :P
copumpkin: what if you're an authoritarian socialist by the end of it?
BTC-Mining: Google told me those names where put together the other way around!
__Atlas__: The real reason is I want to start a private security company in the future
OneMiner: Millitary service can be hard on a person. I advise talking to as many former service members as possible.
__Atlas__: If you had seen my famous private army comment
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24782 @ 0.0003875 = 9.603 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: OneMiner: Didn't it break your whole house down, not just windows?
BTC-Mining: Well you must live in Russia or something then...
BTC-Mining: All housings are converted reinforced concrete bunkers from the cold war era right?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21468 @ 0.00038584 = 8.2832 BTC [-]
OneMiner: hahaha that's pretty funny. I'm trying to prove to luke that a universe can exist without a god. It takes effort.
BTC-Mining: The universe is just there without explanation. If it's about the need of a beggining/creator for something to exist... then we get to the who created god reflection...
BTC-Mining: Either way, no scenario can go around that something appeared out of nowhere.
BTC-Mining: or at least that something somewhere in the Universe will eventually create another Universe, and something in that Universe will create ours in a loop fashion. Because loops ∞ reminds me of bowties, and that's much more elegant.
BTC-Mining: Any scenario seems as good as any other you can make up.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2700 @ 0.00029232 = 0.7893 BTC [-]
OneMiner: Ya, it's all up in the air. Hawking talked about a zero sum universe. Interesting stuff.
BTC-Mining: Tell luke my god makes the universe possible. Tell him he's not the same, because he's the same but has an extra hair follicle on his head, so he's not really the same, just similar. But that my god is still more kickass than is for the extra hair.
BTC-Mining: Although, in all seriousness, I do not mind about religion in general. Mostly good teachings and lessons. I do have an issue with people applying religious texts contractually.
OneMiner: Wow, I would have a big problem with that.
Diablo-D3: I dont understand why people do that
Diablo-D3: for a nation full of Christians, they're pretty non-Jesusly.
OneMiner: I agree. I learned a lot of this christian stuff when I was younger. Do you know how many christians are in the millitary? Their hypocracy blows my mind.
Diablo-D3: there is no problem with defending yourself
BTC-Mining: Diablo-D3, I think that's a major problem...
Diablo-D3: theres no problem with _defending_ itself.
Diablo-D3: the military has simply been diverted from its original goal
OneMiner: The christian god said in no uncertain terms that killing was not an option, ever.
Diablo-D3: yes, and he gave that order to everyone
Diablo-D3: there are those who do not follow the rules
BTC-Mining: I took the time to actually read the Bible (Old and New Testament in full) and I'm at a loss at what some people says it preaches... they're really focusing hardcore on tiny bits which pleases them and ignore 99% of it.
OneMiner: Ya, so that's why my mind is blown. There are lots of christians in the millitary. Will they fire over the heads of the enemy while their brothers in arms are killed?
__Atlas__: Okay, not joining the national guard. Nevermind.
__Atlas__: That one phone call did it for me.
__Atlas__: The recruiter just gave me the impression that it's not a well-run institution.
OneMiner: WTF.... dood, don't join the millitary.
BTC-Mining: Well, depends on the country One Miner...
__Atlas__: Bah, I just need to find something to do. Most of the jobs I've tried suck.
__Atlas__: And 50 hour week ultimatums aren't my thing.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6100 @ 0.00029232 = 1.7832 BTC [-]
OneMiner: No, if you are worried about if it's well-run or not.... Just don't join. You'll be miserable.
BTC-Mining: Atlas: May I recommend a QA job in the video game industry?
OneMiner: There's no such thing as a well run army. They are too friggin big and there are little dictators all over the place.
OneMiner: Tiny itty-bitty dictators who could potentially hold your life in their hands. Think about it.
__Atlas__: BTC_Mining: That does sound interesting.
__Atlas__: OneMiner: It seems what you are saying is unfortunately true.
__Atlas__: BTC-Mining: I will look into this. Austin is bound to have something.
BTC-Mining: Play games and fill bug reports &/or correct them
OneMiner: I kinda want to do QA on games.... Friend of mine did that. Went to work drunk all the time and screwed with everybody there. Not my cup of tea but sounds like a nice enviroment.
BTC-Mining: He's lucky... wouldn't pass at all here.
__Atlas__: All I really want is capital to start a small business but I need to build my savings just a bit more.
OneMiner: BTC-Mining may I ask about the pay?
BTC-Mining: Not sure, depends on the company I suppose.
BTC-Mining: For me it was slightly over minimum salary.
__Atlas__: Is it just me or does it seem the economy just sucks?
BTC-Mining: Well I was in a consultancy company. I'm also not working on the games, just playing them to find bugs so the developers can focus on correcting them.
BTC-Mining: There's at least career paths and excellent work environment.
BTC-Mining: But yeah, hard to get high paying jobs nowaday.
BTC-Mining: I've been earning more trading on GLBSE than working.
__Atlas__: I've noticed that. The lack of liquidity on GLBSE makes for some profitable trades
BTC-Mining: Well the dividends aren't bad either Atlas
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17277 @ 0.00038552 = 6.6606 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32723 @ 0.00038537 = 12.6105 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1200001 = 0.6 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: Goog lord, recession! You guys keep talking about it and making ever more hypothetical catastrophic scenarios. I'll be nearby, just heading with this money to the stock market and going to camp there..
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.082 = 0.41 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.003365 = 0.3365 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.08199999 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18102 @ 0.00038556 = 6.9794 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASIC.COOP] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 2 @ 0.18 = 0.36 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 2 @ 0.17 = 0.34 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 3 @ 0.16 = 0.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 12 @ 0.1501 = 1.8012 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.12198999 = 0.244 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 14 @ 0.1501 = 2.1014 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 3 @ 0.15 = 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.26020001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 9 @ 0.2602 = 2.3418 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 36 @ 0.26 = 9.36 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 88 @ 0.00012931 = 0.0114 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 8 @ 0.000127 = 0.001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 5 @ 0.000115 = 0.0006 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 6924 @ 0.00010001 = 0.6925 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.51 = 1.53 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.5999 = 2.3996 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 2 @ 0.897 = 1.794 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 1 @ 0.5005 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 2 @ 0.500999 = 1.002 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RSM] 10 @ 0.3 = 3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.978 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 9 @ 0.978999 = 8.811 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 5 @ 0.5099 = 2.5495 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 154 @ 0.00029232 = 0.045 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15010 @ 0.00029079 = 4.3648 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1098 @ 0.00029036 = 0.3188 BTC [-]
gribble: nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 hours, 51 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <nefario> instead of just taker fees
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 16 @ 0.003365 = 0.0538 BTC [-]
dust-otc: what is a good % premium to pay when borrowing shares?
dust-otc: and should it be based on time or simply a % of dividends?
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 1 @ 0.17100001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 100 @ 0.171 = 17.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 4 @ 0.171 = 0.684 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 18 @ 0.17 = 3.06 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12525 @ 0.00038556 = 4.8291 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16706 @ 0.0003875 = 6.4736 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.08102 = 0.4051 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.081 = 2.025 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.08011 = 2.0028 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9277 @ 0.00038537 = 3.5751 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31423 @ 0.00038523 = 12.1051 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BLUECHIP] 1 @ 0.09999999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 12 @ 0.5097 = 6.1164 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.5999 = 1.1998 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24677 @ 0.00038523 = 9.5063 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00038517 = 4.9687 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8023 @ 0.000385 = 3.0889 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: 21,000,000/2 if my understanding is correct
Chaaang-Noi: im sure there is a better way to express the formula but i dont know it
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 123300 @ 0.00012936 = 15.9501 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.08015 = 0.7214 BTC [+]
gribble: Best bid: 12.2014, Best ask: 12.2898, Bid-ask spread: 0.08840, Last trade: 12.20136, 24 hour volume: 27671, 24 hour low: 12.011, 24 hour high: 12.4433
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 160 @ 0.00012936 = 0.0207 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5503 @ 0.000385 = 2.1187 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: look in the real world, even drugs dealers wont make 7%
assbot: !ticker <ticker> (desc: returns current GLBSE/MPEX ticker values)
assbot: !pl <ticker> [<amount>@]<bought at> [<YYYY-MM-DD>] (desc: profit loss calc for GLBSE assets)
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 100 @ 0.00016 = 0.016 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.08013 = 1.6026 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 110 @ 0.08011 = 8.8121 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 64 @ 0.0801 = 5.1264 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 39 @ 0.00016 = 0.0062 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 100 @ 0.00012936 = 0.0129 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SS] 1 @ 0.01100001 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.08049999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 278 @ 0.0003875 = 0.1077 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50408 @ 0.00038914 = 19.6158 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9568 @ 0.0003897 = 3.7286 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: <PsychoticBoy> i assumed it was a scam
Chaang-Noi: just wanted to know if there was any word or anything
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.64401 = 1.932 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.64400001 = 1.288 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.644 = 3.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 54 @ 0.643 = 34.722 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 36 @ 0.642 = 23.112 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 10 @ 0.22 = 2.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.003365 = 0.0135 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 1 @ 0.00999998 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.0801 = 0.801 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.67799 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.08049999 = 2.0125 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.0805 = 2.0125 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.081 = 2.025 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.08198 = 0.3279 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.082 = 1.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.08200001 = 2.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.083 = 2.075 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.084 = 2.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.085 = 2.125 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.086 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS] 5 @ 0.69 = 3.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS] 3 @ 0.68 = 2.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 14579 @ 0.00029036 = 4.2332 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2621 @ 0.00028988 = 0.7598 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 32 @ 0.00999999 = 0.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 24 @ 0.086 = 2.064 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.087 = 2.175 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 11 @ 0.088 = 0.968 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.1200001 = 0.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.1200001 = 1.08 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 2 @ 1.002 = 2.004 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 1 @ 1.00000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 17 @ 1 = 17 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 14 @ 0.088 = 1.232 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.089 = 2.225 BTC [+]
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations).
gribble: Time since last block: 27 minutes and 33 seconds
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.1218999 = 0.2438 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2000 @ 0.00028988 = 0.5798 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 10 @ 0.0777 = 0.777 BTC [-]
gribble: Time since last block: 14 seconds
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 5 @ 0.22 = 1.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [007] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [007] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [007] 5 @ 0.115 = 0.575 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.1218999 = 0.2438 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1218998 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.1218999 = 1.0971 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.075 = 7.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14632 @ 0.0003897 = 5.7021 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.1218999 = 0.2438 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1218999 = 0.6095 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1218999 = 0.6095 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.1218999 = 0.3657 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 10 @ 0.22 = 2.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 4 @ 0.113 = 0.452 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 2 @ 0.11299 = 0.226 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.11100001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 2 @ 0.111 = 0.222 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.111 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 2 @ 0.111 = 0.222 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 3 @ 0.10500001 = 0.315 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 6 @ 0.10011 = 0.6007 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.10000003 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 26 @ 0.1 = 2.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.1218999 = 0.2438 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BLUECHIP] 50 @ 0.1 = 5 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: everytime i see blue chip i think blue hourseshoe...
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: is that a chinese thing?
DeaDTerra: We had the coders nerds that had like chill cloths and t-shirts, then we had the economics geeks that had suits and skirt etc.
nefario: well there was only one chinese person there
nefario: and I don't think it was zhou
k3t3r: nah chinese chicken surely
Azelphur: Chaang-Noi: or have a genuine interest in bitcoin, but that would be madness.
DeaDTerra: Yea but the girls seemed to be journalists or GF of other people there.
Chaang-Noi: madness!!!! this is sparrrrtttaaaaa!!!!!
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.67799 = 1.356 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.67799999 = 1.356 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 21 @ 0.678 = 14.238 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: hahah didn't actually talk to them :P
nefario: they were mostly amirs sisters
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6200 @ 0.00028988 = 1.7973 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32000 @ 0.00039035 = 12.4912 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: girls were mostly amirs sisters, oh lol
Chaang-Noi: not too many girls would want to learn about btc
Chaang-Noi: in 5 years we shold have girls interested
Chaang-Noi: if girls wont spend it.. its not money
nefario: my wifes been spending it for over a year
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 20 @ 0.01 = 0.2 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: hows the current fee system on GLBSE
nefario: meant to type no, did bi instead
DeaDTerra: is it that the seller pays the fee or is it liquidity taker?
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 5 @ 0.01 = 0.05 BTC [+]
nefario: and no matching order is found
nefario: Chaang-Noi: when the lawyer gets it to me
Chaang-Noi: theymos is trying to sell an asset with no contract :/
nefario: real world is slower than BTC land
Chaang-Noi: why does theymos no longer thinkg glbse is worth having?
nefario: Chaang-Noi: no, he is selling his stake in GLBSE, he doesn't want to register as a legit shareholder
nefario: dude just ask and I'll send you a pretty pic
nefario: if thats what you're desperate for
Chaang-Noi: ill take a copy of your passport and your bosses phne number at work...
nefario: does a director/CEO have a boss?
Chaang-Noi: its what you asked me for, with other shit too...
Chaang-Noi: dont worry, you can trust me, i will only send out your personal address and id if i assume you are scamming...
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.64300001 = 1.929 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: James, I want a cancel all order button :( cancelling 50 orders manually is a hassle
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.149 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: haha yea :P I have a lot of orders that I refresh daily so to have such a button would save me several minutes a day xD
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.149 BTC [-]
nefario: Chaang-Noi: we're going legit, registering as a company, which means shareholders are registering as well. Shareholder information isn't public info
Chaang-Noi: Shareholder information isn't public info, it is in the usa.
Chaang-Noi: i think its a bad idea, and i agree with theymos but really its up to you.
DeaDTerra: Ohh GLBSE shares :D sounds interesting
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 25 @ 0.00999001 = 0.2498 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 3 @ 0.00999 = 0.03 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 24 @ 0.08 = 1.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 51 @ 0.08 = 4.08 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 8 @ 1.00001 = 8.0001 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: umm registering a comany wiht a fake name is lol in the usa
Chaang-Noi: glbse is opening themselves up to so much doing this...
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 49 @ 0.08 = 3.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.081 = 2.025 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: esp since the post passport photos online is they assume scamming :/
Chaang-Noi: that would get you shut donw in the usa
Chaang-Noi: i understand why nefario did that cuz wild west
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.0815 = 1.63 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: but if he wants to play by the rules and go legal he cant be wild west
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.0815 = 0.4075 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.0815 = 0.4075 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: the problem is, nefario has more trust than most of the people on the board
Chaang-Noi: and usagi leading that thing wont help on credibility
Chaang-Noi: im not attacking usagi here but really he has not been a long term player.
Chaang-Noi: teek should head it up, he has the oldest valid assets on glbse as far as i kow
Chaang-Noi: "socialite investor" what do i invest in?
Chaang-Noi: in this market being as parinoid as fuck works...
Chaang-Noi: but i assume everyone else is a scammer
Chaang-Noi: also its why i had such a low veiw of teek
DeaDTerra: there's to much drama in this room...
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.1218999 = 0.2438 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: the glbse team? no im not on the glbse team
Chaang-Noi: the rest of the memebers are smarter than you.
Chaang-Noi: i will out last glbse cuz i am careful.
Chaang-Noi: glbse is going down a bad path and im sad
DeaDTerra: it's goin fast eyy, I am on a boat eyy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40468 @ 0.00039137 = 15.838 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00039148 = 3.5233 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12332 @ 0.00039157 = 4.8288 BTC [+]
assbot: !ticker <ticker> (desc: returns current GLBSE/MPEX ticker values)
assbot: !pl <ticker> [<amount>@]<bought at> [<YYYY-MM-DD>] (desc: profit loss calc for GLBSE assets)
assbot: [GLBSE:FPGAMINING] [Bid: 0.36030003] [Ask: 0.48269996] [Spread: 0.12239993] [Last: 0.361] [24hVol: 69.77331557] [7dAvg: 0.55271306]
DeaDTerra: JAMES :(, GLBSE is beign stupid and slow again ;(
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 1 @ 0.072999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.0815 = 1.63 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.082 = 2.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.083 = 4.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.084 = 4.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.085 = 4.25 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: Well I am trying to place orders and I have to reload the page sveral times for the order book and the order placement UI to come up
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 0.8899 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6796 @ 0.00039035 = 2.6528 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.08998 = 0.3599 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 21 @ 0.09 = 1.89 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: anyone else now having trouble taking fund out of glbse?
DeaDTerra: chill until Nef see's it an fixes it :)
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.08998 = 0.3599 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.09 = 0.36 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.09 = 0.18 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.09 = 0.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 8 @ 0.09 = 0.72 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.09119999 = 0.1824 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: if you read you would have seen that it hit :/
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 6 @ 0.6101 = 3.6606 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: however an assumption that glbse has failed is not really good :/
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 6 @ 0.6101 = 3.6606 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 10 @ 0.61 = 6.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 1 @ 0.592 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 5 @ 0.5705 = 2.8525 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 2 @ 0.5502 = 1.1004 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 2 @ 0.5502 = 1.1004 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 2 @ 0.5302 = 1.0604 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 10 @ 0.53 = 5.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 12 @ 0.5 = 6 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 895 @ 0.15449462 = 138.2727 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 1 @ 0.50000001 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 8 @ 0.5 = 4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.09119999 = 0.2736 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.09144 = 0.4572 BTC [+]
gribble: Time since last block: 2 minutes and 56 seconds ago
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 1 @ 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.1218999 = 2.0723 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 800 @ 0.00012936 = 0.1035 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12104 @ 0.00038649 = 4.6781 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13468 @ 0.00039157 = 5.2737 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14973 @ 0.00039289 = 5.8827 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34896 @ 0.00039313 = 13.7187 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27029 @ 0.00039409 = 10.6519 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51948 @ 0.00039422 = 20.4789 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19790 @ 0.00039587 = 7.8343 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56999 @ 0.00039682 = 22.6183 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31386 @ 0.00041632 = 13.0666 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27665 @ 0.00041748 = 11.5496 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34200 @ 0.00041803 = 14.2966 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32399 @ 0.00041847 = 13.558 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41889 @ 0.0004185 = 17.5305 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1254 @ 0.00041856 = 0.5249 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 10 @ 0.11 = 1.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00041555 = 7.4383 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 11 @ 0.08900001 = 0.979 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.089 = 0.89 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.088 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.087 = 0.87 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.086 = 0.774 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 7 @ 0.975 = 6.825 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.9789 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 48 @ 0.97999 = 47.0395 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 43 @ 0.98 = 42.14 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 9 @ 0.98 = 8.82 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00040771 = 15.6561 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.67797998 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.67797999 = 2.0339 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00040996 = 5.6574 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5800 @ 0.00029576 = 1.7154 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4200 @ 0.00031685 = 1.3308 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 30 @ 0.47949964 = 14.385 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 18 @ 0.47949965 = 8.631 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 152 @ 0.483 = 73.416 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.483 = 1.932 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 596 @ 0.002815 = 1.6777 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 5 @ 0.3689 = 1.8445 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3918 @ 0.00040771 = 1.5974 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 100 @ 0.0044 = 0.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 190 @ 0.003365 = 0.6394 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 9043 @ 0.0034 = 30.7462 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 30767 @ 0.0034 = 104.6078 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.00336] [Ask: 0.0034] [Spread: 0.00004] [Last: 0.0034] [24hVol: 136.44815] [7dAvg: 0.00339275]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5000 @ 0.0034 = 17 BTC [+]
Garr255: So Chaang-Noi, what's going on with the glbse situation?
Bane_Capital: lol there are still 6 million shares left on MPEX
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.26000001 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 10 @ 0.26 = 2.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 4000 @ 0.0034 = 13.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 5 @ 0.3601 = 1.8005 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.086 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 49 @ 0.08400001 = 4.116 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PGM] 1 @ 0.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1218999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.1218999 = 7.314 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 64 @ 0.1218999 = 7.8016 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.4488 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 7 @ 0.64430002 = 4.5101 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.64400001 = 3.864 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 27 @ 0.644 = 17.388 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 3 @ 0.08199 = 0.246 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 579 @ 0.00028988 = 0.1678 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7971 @ 0.00028964 = 2.3087 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00040239 = 1.3681 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 33 @ 0.08400001 = 2.772 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.084 = 0.84 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 1 @ 0.097 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 17 @ 0.08000003 = 1.36 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8029 @ 0.00028964 = 2.3255 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1571 @ 0.00028776 = 0.4521 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00040238 = 0.2012 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00040288 = 1.2489 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3896 @ 0.00040432 = 1.5752 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 2 @ 0.209 = 0.418 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: I haven't earned money sending money to random addresses
BTC-Mining: pff, there's 7% weekly scam, and 3-5% weekly legit
BTC-Mining: All the people in poorly legislated countries arrive thinking "ooohh, easy money!"
BTC-Mining: The people in intensely legislated countries are guilty no matter what they do. So they decided they might as well ponzi the heck out of the forums.
BTC-Mining: What L word? Legit? Legit legit legit.
BTC-Mining: You know you can start with 0 money and get infinite % on that legitly? It's called a job. It's legit.
nefario: EskimoBob: it can work, but we can't limit it to the existing community
nefario: lacks common sense it seems
BTC-Mining: Smoovious has issues with specific words.
nefario: I also think that in the long term, we need a very large bitcoin economy that is legit, and the illegit part of the bitcoin economy has to be only a fraction of the size
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 25 @ 0.00999996 = 0.25 BTC [+]
nefario: I'm all for the dark and hidden economy, but it needs a legit one to hide in, if all of bitcoinland is dark, then the gov will just stop people getting into bitcoinland, economic sanctions if you will
nefario: Does anyone know Goats home address?
nefario: I think he's having a stroke
nefario: we need to get medical attention to him
nefario: have you read his last few posts
nefario: they're not making any fucking sense
BTC-Mining: If he keeps writing, he's not having a stroke.
BTC-Mining: Might be some kid or retarted friend of his who thinks it's funny.
nefario: this is how I would imagine someone types when they've had a stroke
nefario: and not in the normal sense
nefario: when we're talking about goat and normality
BTC-Mining: Oh... the fake GLBSE stock... Chaang is unhappy about that...
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3935 @ 0.00028776 = 1.1323 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: He might be having second thoughts now that his thoughts are clearing up.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 10 @ 0.00998999 = 0.0999 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: But yeah nefario, you should be more careful of what you say, just be sure you can do what you say prior to saying it.
nefario: anyway, theymos isn't getting involved because he's a GLBSE shareholder
nefario: BTC-Mining: that was 7 months ago
kakobrekla: nefario, are any assets moving to blue or pink market
nefario: I've to set out the process to do that
kakobrekla: well no point in having those buttons until then
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 10 @ 0.00998 = 0.0998 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: Nefario, your post says: "Yes, I think we can all agree that having a safe SEXCHANGE is of considerable..."
kakobrekla: you dont want to end up with two dicks.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.12189 = 0.6095 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.12199 = 0.61 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Heck, if you want, I'd pay for people who bought that scam asset so they can be reimbursed.
BTC-Mining: I think many here would be willing to donate, if the issue is you can't spend GLBSE's funds on reimbursment.
BTC-Mining: Because of the other shareholders not agreeing with that.
kakobrekla: Smoovious, thats ok, i dont need to satisfy a lot of chicks.
nefario: BTC-Mining: The asset is being bought back
nefario: at the same price it was sold
nefario: What goat is complaining about is that he sold some of those fake assets for 10BTC each
nefario: and wants me to buy them back at that price
nefario: he also thinks that theymos and I are colluding on this
nefario: theymos said since he's a GLBSE shareholder then it's a conflict of interest for him to make any decision on this issue
BTC-Mining: If he hasn't bought them 10 BTC, why reimburse him 10 BTC per share?
nefario: and trying to get a scammer label put on me as a result
BTC-Mining: Chaang-Noi, partying is fun but you should probably install a anti-drunken start screen on your computer or something.
nefario: something where he has to spell a long word would put a stop to it
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.12199 = 0.9759 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Anyone selling ASICMINER/BIB.BVPS/GIGAMINING?
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2784 @ 0.00028776 = 0.8011 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.5897 = 2.9485 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.09199999 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Pff, why do I always have more money than I can spend.
BTC-Mining: I was born poor, I worked hard for this money!
BTC-Mining: Seriously tho, just having a hard time getting orders filled.
BTC-Mining: I actually don't buy into asks and place bids instead.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINRS] 1 @ 0.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 35 @ 0.0034 = 0.119 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00040234 = 3.9832 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE:MPOE.ETF] [Bid: 0.15000001] [Ask: 1.33999999] [Spread: 1.18999998] [Last: 1.33] [24hVol: ] [7dAvg: 1.33]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 30 @ 0.15008359 = 4.5025 BTC [-]
nefario: you could try to buy those GLBSE shares that are being sold
DeaDTerra: goat gets more and more drunk as the thread goes on
nefario: like after post 4 I think he doesn't make any sense
nefario: and is just quoting himself
mircea_popescu: and you still figure you're competing with me, somehow ?
nefario: did you read the post from bitcoin magazine about the conference?
nefario: there are quite a few pics there
nefario: see if you can figure out which one I am
mircea_popescu: no, seriously. scarcely a day goes by without some ridiculousness of this level
kakobrekla: DeaDTerra, why do you comment your name when you sign a post