teek: i understand people are all bent out of shape on "fake" bids, but there is "order time" then there is "execution time"
teek: credit is checked at both points
teek: it isnt really the appearance
teek: it is real liquidty, because the order is standing based on money that is there when it was placed
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10242 @ 0.0034 = 34.8228 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 2 @ 1.4296 = 2.8592 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the first time you sell 10k into whart seems like a 40k wall and discover abotu 8k of it was valid you'll change your oppinion i guess
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1176 @ 0.0034 = 3.9984 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: BTC-BOND is investing made easy. Less risk, stable profit, albeit lower profits.
teek: no one is going to provide any serious liquidty if they have to tie up their moeny for something that will probably never happen at 0% interest
teek: but thats one of the reasons why
mircea_popescu: teek glbse liquidity was in the bucket before, this won't save it. but anyway, largely academic debate.
teek: Smoovious: if there is enough credit left to cover the order then it stays up, if not it gets canceled
BTC-Mining: EskimoBob: you mean disable any open order under x BTC total?
BTC-Mining: [17:03] <EskimoBob> and all the small bull shit orders have to be "moved" to market orders only
OneMiner: EskimoBob I have to agree, that's the one thing I've considered and rejected. Hashrate is going up so fixed Mh/s is garbage.
teek: if i have orders up on 10 different stocks for 10@1 and for antoher 10 different stocks at 5@1 and i ahve 7 btc left in the account, all the 10@1's get canceled
teek: the first time one of the 5@1 gets filled the others cancel
teek: Smoovious: as far as i know the only reason it isnt implemented is a bug in the code
Bane_Capital: CPA is trading above the reported the NAV now.
teek: Smoovious: i am fairly sure the real markets work like this.. though i am not a pro.. i supposed i could place some orders on some low volume issues and watch level 2
teek: i know i have seen my orders on level 2 before and can follow them around
Bane_Capital: What nefario needs to do is include a toggle for this in the settings.
teek: Smoovious: fair enough.. but when i place orders in my brokerage account, i have seen them get routed directly to level 2 before
teek: now is it every and all orders
teek: on stuff with high volume it is hard to follow
BTC-Mining: No one would have GLBSE stocks they need to dump? I see dumpings going much lower than what I'd pay all the time.
teek: BTC-Mining: i'd dump jlp-bmd
assbot: [MPEX:F.GIGA.ETF] 1day: 0.00041282 / 0.00044627 / 0.000485 (129315 shares, 57.71 BTC), 30day: 0.00030644 / 0.00076876 / 0.00113797 (13924752 shares, 10,704.86 BTC)
BTC-Mining: is that a fixed mhash/s bond that won't upgrade to ASIC?
teek: no its a share, but i dont know wtf he is doing
assbot: [GLBSE:CPA] [Bid: 0.03100101] [Ask: 0.033] [Spread: 0.00199899] [Last: 0.033] [24hVol: 2.67099981] [7dAvg: 0.02895127]
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc).
assbot: CPA [1@1BTC] paid: 0.00569688 BTC. Last price: 0.033 BTC. Capital gain: -0.967 BTC. Total: -0.96130312 BTC. (-96.1%)
Bugpowder: I think the liquidity problem is due to 500,000 bitcoins disappearing from people that would be potential investors in real bitcoin securities
Bane_Capital: It's up from here from my talks with the issuer.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00039652 = 4.6988 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1551 @ 0.00039528 = 0.6131 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: eh, looks like a mining share but no real information
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.09999996 = 0.6 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: I have GLBSE stocks I want to dump, when I went on a buying spree upon account creation without doing enough DD>
BTC-Mining: So dodgy I wouldn't give much for them.
Bugpowder: Hoping pre-dividend bounces get me out
BTC-Mining: Hey... BTC-MINING kept it's value at least. There's just no bids eh.
Bugpowder: at least when it still has dividends
Bugpowder: GIGA @0.4 seems like the buy, but I have so much already
BTC-Mining: Well it does pays and unless BITBOND defaults on the loan, the capital is still available at 1 BTC per BTC-MINING share.
Bugpowder: I like that BTC-Mining is still paying dividends instead of keeping capital tied up in vaporware waiting
gigavps: i'm paying dividends and have money tied up in vaporware :p
BTC-Mining: We haven't enough raised for buying a full rig (didn't want to pay for singles)
gigavps: Smoovious that might be better suited for #bitcoin-politics
BTC-Mining: And the ASICs weren't out yet (vaporware) and other competing offers were on the horizon. So put a motion and started loaning the funds.
BTC-Mining: Aye, and sorry gigavps about being so inquisitive and critical about your upgrade path. It's just that I think, although you have to plan for worst case scenario to still be able to cover the hashing, unless/until this scenario happens, you're putting a large amount of coins in your pockets.
gigavps: Smoovious everything go ok?
gigavps: Bugpowder i would think it's much higher than that
gigavps: so they caught it in time?
Bugpowder: The main annoyance with the liquidity is that I need to reserve sufficient capital to pay GIGA upgrade fee, because who knows how much you lose getting out of other positions to cover the fee on the day the exchange program goes into effect.
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc).
assbot: CPA [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.00569688 BTC. Last price: 0.033 BTC. Capital gain: -0.067 BTC. Total: -0.06130312 BTC. (-61.3%)
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc).
assbot: GIGAMINING [1@1.5BTC] paid: 0.44317596 BTC. Last price: 0.62 BTC. Capital gain: -0.88 BTC. Total: -0.43682404 BTC. (-29.1%)
gigavps: Bugpowder asic is going to be fun
assbot: [GLBSE] [GREEN] 3 @ 0.61 = 1.83 BTC [+]
gigavps: of all the asic offerings, i don't think anyone is going to be able to compete with BFL
Bugpowder: It takes serious expertise to roll out custom silicon
Bugpowder: FPGA is not the same difficulty level
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 5 @ 0.92307692 = 4.6154 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 5 @ 0.94230769 = 4.7115 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 5 @ 0.96153846 = 4.8077 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 8 @ 0.98 = 7.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 3 @ 0.98076923 = 2.9423 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: [05:30:30] <Smoovious> the 1 major advantage BFL has right now, is it is very likely to be the first to market with them
gigavps: i'm also wondering how btcfpga when from not having a fab one week to having a fab and "in process" the next week
assbot: [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 1 @ 0.9989 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 4 @ 0.999 = 3.996 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 5 @ 0.9995 = 4.9975 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: I believe bfl will miss the october launch date
gigavps: asicminer has shown their specs
Diablo-D3: gigavps: the 1th for 500w figure is wrong
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: they will have the units mining by december if they meet their launch date
gigavps: Diablo-D3 who said anything about 1Th for 500w
Diablo-D3: gigavps: thats asicminer's numbers
gigavps: mircea_popescu end of october
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 i don't think he puts more stock in asicminer.
gigavps: Diablo-D3 are you smoking crack?
mircea_popescu: gigavps well the guys likes to contradict what can i say :p
midnightmagic: gigavps: Scaling up from 3.5GH for 1 USB jalapeno gives an upper bound for pure-chip power requirements for 1TH ~600W, plus infrastructure, fans, controllers whatever else they're putting in the sc minirig.
Diablo-D3: and asicminer has already said the 532 figure is wrong, they'll be coming in much lower
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: 40 for 85 ~= 50 for 100
midnightmagic: Diablo-D3: Where's the 85W figure? Is that posted by BFL somewhere?
Diablo-D3: midnightmagic: they said their sc single will use as much as the single
midnightmagic: Diablo-D3: Well, even if it's twice that, or three times that, so long as they fit on a 20A circuit, I'm fine with that.
midnightmagic: Diablo-D3: !! Well that's interesting. I haven't read that.
Diablo-D3: twice that on a minirig still fits on a 15
Diablo-D3: anyhow, 50th for 532 (which has already been announced as too high as an early estimate) vs 50th on 100
Diablo-D3: so even if asicminer is 50th on 200, they won
midnightmagic: Diablo-D3: I specifically wired up with 12/3, 20A plugs, full armoured conduit, nothing inside the walls, to accommodate future power requirements. We'll see! heh heh.
Diablo-D3: if the finished boards have not arrived by jan, NOBODY gets anything until late feb
Diablo-D3: bfl says october, they wont make it
Diablo-D3: asicminer says nov or dec, they are cutting it close but will make it
Diablo-D3: aiscminer had to bust their asses to catch up to bfl's unverified lead
Diablo-D3: asicminer is one of those companies that you dont want to know how the sausage is made
gigavps: Diablo-D3 i'm an almost positive that ASICMINER specs are at 8w/Gh
gigavps: they are using a very inefficient nm size
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7020 @ 0.00041923 = 2.943 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: unless they went the altera sasic 65nm route
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3880 @ 0.00041927 = 1.6268 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: er, 80 isnt a size
gigavps: Diablo-D3 how do you know bfl is on 130nm?
Diablo-D3: gigavps: because its all they can afford
gigavps: Diablo-D3 how do you know that?
Diablo-D3: unless they got VERY lucky to get a shared silicon 65nm run, they wont be on 65nm
gigavps: you look at their bank account?
Diablo-D3: 65 still has them, small wafer size 130s dont
Diablo-D3: unless they had 10 million in the bank
gigavps: Diablo-D3 you are speaking as if you know something
Diablo-D3: if they had 10 million in the bank they could afford a PR firm to stop fucking up shit as well
gigavps: when in reality, you don't
Diablo-D3: so Im just putting 1 and 1 together to get 2 here.
Diablo-D3: gigavps: bfl got caught lying about specs before
Diablo-D3: plus they asked for investor money up front
Diablo-D3: and you have to pay for the entire run up front
Diablo-D3: usagi: exactly, and if they miss the october launch date, asicminer wins
PsychoticBoy: If asicminer will succeed, thats the question, I dont believe it
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: its ALL chinese crap
Diablo-D3: where do you think almost all the world's chip fabs are
Diablo-D3: I dont care about your political issues either
Diablo-D3: yes, Im aware that 98% of the world's memory is produced in taiwan.
Diablo-D3: Im also aware most non-memory storage devices are made there
Diablo-D3: theres also two major industrial fan manufacturers there
Diablo-D3: usagi: but Ill also remind you taiwan is not recognized by the UN and their seat is held by China.
Diablo-D3: so lolpolitics, it doesnt belong here.
Diablo-D3: usagi: there are no 130nm and 65nm fabs in the US afaik
Diablo-D3: I'd rather the chips be fabbed here
Diablo-D3: intel still does 65nm at the fab in chandler az
Diablo-D3: intel has four fabs in the US, hillsboro or, chandler az, rio rancho nm, and hudson ma
Diablo-D3: all of them do 22, 32, or 45, and chandler is building a 14nm fab
Diablo-D3: intel also has a fab in ireland, does 65 and 90, one in israel doing 45, and one in china doing 65 for non-security applications
Diablo-D3: amd/globalfoundries has one in germany, does 45nm and will also be the site of their next gen stuff
Diablo-D3: gf's singapore site still does basically every size ever
Diablo-D3: 28, 180, 350, and 600 (holy shit they still have a 600nm plant open)
Diablo-D3: gf is opening one in abu dhabi in 2015 as well
Diablo-D3: tsmc has two different plants in taiwan, they do a bunch of sizes including 65 and 130, plus one in shanghai
Diablo-D3: Bane_Capital: yes, intel israel is a huge r&d facility
mircea_popescu: Bane_Capital they're producing hot chicks in uniform at an amazing rate.
Diablo-D3: ibm ha two fabs in the US, fishkill ny and essex junction vt, but I dont know what sizes
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.09989999 = 2.4975 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: stm has one in france, one in italy, 32, 45, 65, 90
Diablo-D3: freescale has one in austin and chandler doing larger sizes, but no 65 and 130 from what I see
Diablo-D3: smic is in shanghai and beijing and tianjin, 45, 65, 90, 130
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS] 4 @ 0.75 = 3 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: Bane_Capital: these are all chip fabs
Diablo-D3: they can make anything if you supply them with the mask.
Diablo-D3: Bugpowder: ibm has sub-22nm processes
Diablo-D3: Bane_Capital: natsemi in portland me only does 180, 250, and 350
Bugpowder: So were do these guys do the bonding and packaging of the silicon
Diablo-D3: a lot of companies offer packaging as well so you dont have to go off site to do it
Bugpowder: The biggest issue we had with our custom silicon probes was the bump soldering to each lead
Bugpowder: hundreds of probes, all with a few bad channels
Bugpowder: It literally took 2 years to go from working prototype to successful production run
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 17 @ 0.09 = 1.53 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: man, multiple companies have fabs in austin
Diablo-D3: I wonder if thats all the same fab and it either changed hands or works for multiple companies
Diablo-D3: Bugpowder: yeah, that really sucks
Bugpowder: vendors say they can do the spec sheet. they cant do the spec sheet
Diablo-D3: gigavps: anyhow, what I was saying was, Im not saying bfl cant do it
Diablo-D3: gigavps: there is just a lot of evidence against them
Bugpowder: switch from flip chip to zif connectors
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00039538 = 10.5962 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE:FDBF] [Bid: 0.146] [Ask: 0.15] [Spread: 0.004] [Last: 0.15] [24hVol: 6.45] [7dAvg: 0.14999999]
assbot: [GLBSE:ABM] [Bid: 0.085] [Ask: 0.16] [Spread: 0.075] [Last: 0.1] [24hVol: ] [7dAvg: 0.1]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: at least asicminer is making a normal chip
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.09989999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: and I think the way they've set it up even if it has a few bad sha cores it should still work
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: I'm making sure my mining investments will still be paying out during the wait
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: who the fuck is buying 10 share lots of GSDPT
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 350 @ 0.00332368 = 1.1633 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 450 @ 0.00319321 = 1.4369 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: "Bought shares of gigamining(2), cognitive(4), synergy(10), and pajka(16). Paid 1st dividend. Have 4.14659601 BTC in reserve funds. See other sheets for more details."
assbot: [MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0.00319321 / 0.00329319 / 0.00337901 (1200 shares, 3.95 BTC), 30day: 0.00319321 / 0.00361552 / 0.00389519 (46597 shares, 168.47 BTC)
Diablo-D3: does bitcoin have an accounting company?
[\\\]: bitch, he's already on my payroll
gribble: You are identified as user imsaguy, with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM
Diablo-D3: how much does smickles, smickles, and smickles cost to hire?
[\\\]: 2 hookers and a ball of tar
Diablo-D3: those are pretty expensive hookers
assbot: [GLBSE] [GREEN] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+]
Bane_Capital: It's funny how people are willing to call out my alt accounts
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7720 @ 0.00041927 = 3.2368 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5500 @ 0.00042382 = 2.331 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1900 @ 0.00042671 = 0.8107 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1200 @ 0.0004272 = 0.5126 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 36378 @ 0.00045386 = 16.5105 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2302 @ 0.00047591 = 1.0955 BTC [+]
Bane_Capital: Anyways, fuck it. I don't need a stinkin loan.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100N] 1 @ 0.18455089 BTC [+]
[\\\]: i know that for a fact.
[\\\]: can we get all the other fud out of the way too?
mircea_popescu: o it was hk not kludge nm. but yes, he said that as a joke
Bane_Capital: Diablo-D3 is a transgendered, atheist, scientologist.
Diablo-D3: how can I be atheist AND scientologist?
Diablo-D3: either I do not believe in God, or I worship a grey wearing a cloak and a crown
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.11968987 = 0.2394 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60200 @ 0.00039528 = 23.7959 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: Diablo-D3: false, you can be atheist AND worship a persona in a ridicule fashion, as to mock sects (aka fake or set-up worshipping)
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: but thats not religious, its entertainment
Diablo-D3: unicode even has a form of the ikon
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.09989999 = 0.1998 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: I remember back in high school... where normal people would walk with friends talking, I'd be followed by my two atheists friends who've decided to worship me AND go on strike demanding higher salaries for the disciples of this sect having 2 followers.
BTC-Mining: Try walking around corridors with two people walking around you like their on strike demanding higher salaries >.>
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 49 @ 0.09989999 = 4.8951 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: your high school life was more exciting than mine
BTC-Mining: or giving you the hitler salute. Or walking around you doing freestyle rap, but not in a serious way.
Diablo-D3: also, someone has notified me that people actually went to the bitcoinica conference
BTC-Mining: It was entertaining. They're very good friends too.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 5 @ 0.0002 = 0.001 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GREEN] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Luckily life is not like american tv shows. Or we'd have been beaten up so many times. =P
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 2 @ 1.4299 = 2.8598 BTC [+]
nefario: Anyone see the twit pics from the dinner at the pre event?
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 2 @ 0.146 = 0.292 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: it just legitimizes what those guys did
Diablo-D3: unless you were hoping zhou tong would show up so you could rape him in a back alley then stab him to death, I dont see the point
nefario: which tastes like chocolate
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 4 @ 0.00012682 = 0.0005 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: I dunno, after the crap intersango did, I'd never go to an event they hosted
nefario: cause nearly everyone who is anyone has come
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27772 @ 0.00039538 = 10.9805 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Diablo-D3, if it's hosted by scammers/retarded businesses, go there for the lulz.
Diablo-D3: nefario: I dunno, parties arent my thing
nefario: speaking to people face to face
nefario: actuall intelligent people
nefario: or who you didn't have to explain the basics to
BTC-Mining: ah, true, an occasion to meet the bitcoin crowd
nefario: my table waited for 1 and 1/2 hours for food
nefario: I was starving by the time it came
nefario: but I have to say it was pretty nice
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.09989999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
nefario: first time I've come across it
nefario: I'm afraid Im rather smelly from my loooong day
nefario: shit shower and a shave, I'll be a new man
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 8 @ 0.331 = 2.648 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 3 @ 0.99999 = 3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 16 @ 0.999999 = 16 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.66 = 6.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 7 @ 0.651 = 4.557 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.65 = 2.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.65 = 6.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.64 = 1.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.64 = 6.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.6302 = 3.151 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1349 @ 0.00039528 = 0.5332 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14853 @ 0.00039519 = 5.8698 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.6302 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 6 @ 0.6301 = 3.7806 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.63 = 6.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.62 = 6.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.61 = 1.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.398 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 4 @ 0.9899 = 3.9596 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 3 @ 0.0525001 = 0.1575 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.BTCST.PPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.034 = 0.068 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7447 @ 0.00039519 = 2.943 BTC [-]
nefario1: used to be a red light district
nefario1: but all talks will be recorded
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: why, interested in trying to buy your 54 shares back? =P
Diablo-D3: need to balance out all that delicious abmo
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.08899999 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: I was expecting you to be thrown out and assets liquidated at that point, or betting on it. No offence. And since I have a mostly mining portfolio, I'm interested in having a chunk of the shares. Especially if I can trade them for the BTC-Mining shares.
BTC-Mining: Well I wonder where the numbers are up to by now.
BTC-Mining: Nevertheless, in any case, I'll buy more DMCs
[\\\]: too late, I own them all
[\\\]: all your hash are belong to us
BTC-Mining: Oh... so that's all DMC's shares uh... I'm sure of that.
nefario: Im looking for advice on creating a default contract
BTC-Mining: Damn, if that's all the DMC shares there is, what am I holding? Must be fake shares!
nefario: to which all contracts turn when they don't have a clause to handle any upcoming issues
nefario: a standard contract for as many contingencies as we can think of
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8000 @ 0.0034 = 27.2 BTC [+]
nefario: so when there are new contracts
nefario: if they don't include a clause to handle an event
nefario: it then goes to the standard contract
nefario: think of the contract as being a child class of a standard contract
BTC-Mining: I think a troll face would be easier than writing such lenghty default clauses contract
nefario: inheriting it's methods and properties
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: I agree, its how everyone treats contracts anyhow
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: dont like the contract? whine at nefario until he fucks up everybody's shit
mircea_popescu: <nefario> my table waited for 1 and 1/2 hours for food << lol
mircea_popescu: so in the end, who that we might have known showed up ?
[\\\]: you realize that people will just write their own generic clause
russellw: nefario, surely the obvious starting point would be the standard contracts, laws and regulations, whatever, from existing stock exchanges like Wall Street?
[\\\]: anything not contained herein is to be decided by the asset manager
[\\\]: and bam, your entire 'default' is overridden
nefario: someone already mentioned that
nefario: and I don't think that would be allowed
[\\\]: so now you get to determine what the contracts are?
BTC-Mining: Diablo-D3, you fucked everybody's shit. You kept making trade-ins valuating DMC under NAV value so everyone would trade.
[\\\]: write their contract for them?
[\\\]: determine the price for them?
mircea_popescu: i can't believe this guy is still taken seriously by anyone.
nefario: [\\\]: we have the power to approve new assets
nefario: shitty contracts will probably be turned down as a result
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: and even if I did, I did not violate the contract
nefario: For DMC the auditing has already begun
nefario: Or perhaps shitty contracts will still be allowed
nefario: but then no one will buy ones with such a clause
Diablo-D3: is DMC was one of the longer contracts on GLBSE, and you signed off on it
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 actually, the oldest contract was "test", by goat.
nefario: I've hired an outside party with qualifications
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I said longer not older
nefario: they will work out a profit and loss
nefario: then I'm getting someone else to write a report (another auditor)
nefario: a third person to verify the profit and loss, and report are correct
Diablo-D3: nefario: as long as none of those are smickles, thats ... still a dumb idea.
nefario: Have a conference to attend and run
Diablo-D3: I dont trust you to chose auditors.
nefario: I've only gotten one so far
mircea_popescu: why not ? he could "hire" usagi, an anonymous "3rd party" with "qualifications". he knows ito integral calculus!
[\\\]: <nefario> I've hired an outside party with qualifications << whom?
[\\\]: the auditor should be well known
[\\\]: in fact, its announced BEFORE the audit
[\\\]: at least on a real stock exchange
Diablo-D3: this whole thing is extremely shady
Diablo-D3: not only that, the shareholders should have to agree to the chosen auditors as well
[\\\]: I think Diablo-D3 is a douchebag
[\\\]: don't get me wrong
[\\\]: but this stinks of shady
mircea_popescu: for my curiosity, how much does an auditor make per hour in btcland ?
[\\\]: mircea_popescu: 32
nefario: mircea_popescu: we're missing you at the conference
mircea_popescu: nefario ty, if i ever need to sleep on the floor in the insalubrious apartment of a failed poker player
[\\\]: notice how my questions go unanswered?
[\\\]: Who is doing the audit?
jcpham: mircea_popescu you should've attended
nefario: mircea_popescu: I don't play poker
nefario: you know you look like a tool on the forum
jcpham: sorry i'm not from the eurasian continent
[\\\]: Who is doing the audit of DMC?
jcpham: it's a pretty small place i hear
mircea_popescu: dude, forum scum != bitcoin. quite the opposite, actually.
jcpham: mircea_popescu i'm disappointed you didn't go to look down upon them
jcpham: you know, pull up in your limo full of ladies
mircea_popescu: jcpham well, i saw no point in doubling their credibility.
nefario: [\\\]: I'll announce it later
Diablo-D3: jcpham: and his 12 foot tall black bodyguards
Diablo-D3: those breast implants come in handy, I guess
jcpham: any time you can flaunt it, you should
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 especially if it gets cold at all, they can stab you in teh eye.
jcpham: sometimes i give horrible advice on irc freely
[\\\]: <nefario> [\\\]: I'll announce it later << when?
BTC-Mining: [\\\] no one is, for now there's only a motion about if Diablo should be thrown out of managing DMC
[\\\]: BTC-Mining: nefario said it already began
nefario: I said DMC is being audited
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 6 @ 0.08889999 = 0.5334 BTC [-]
[\\\]: the audit already began
[\\\]: which means what BTC-Mining said is false
Diablo-D3: DMC cant be audited until the shareholders sign off on the auditors.
jcpham: Diablo-D3 i remember when i thought u were joking about DMC
nefario: The audit should be done before the vote is closed
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 8 @ 0.08899999 = 0.712 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: he doesnt even make sense anymore =/
[\\\]: How will the auditor know what mining assets DMC has?
[\\\]: going to visit Diablo-D3?
[\\\]: man, that airfare is going to eat whatever value is in DMC
mircea_popescu: jcpham btc, XBIZ London would prolly be more to your taste anyway. i think i have invites somewhere too
jcpham: if i go to conference, i'd probably start a riot
jcpham: people see me and want more
jcpham: and i just can't give it to them
nefario1: is that why you're locked in your mothers basement?
jcpham: i just can't hve nice things
BTC-Mining: You've never made sense, trading DMC shares for less than par value. It works like a reverse ponzi. The late investors get more.
Doffx: Ohhh that looks like fun mircea_popescu
assbot: [GLBSE] [RSM] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: It's also quite against the contract terms, it was supposed to be for buying mining equipment. You should have motioned going fund managing and the trading chart rates.
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: read the contract terms again
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00039412 = 5.0053 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: If you consider reinvesting in equipment to be equivalent to buying mining stocks, then yes, for that part, 50% reinvestment is ok.
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: I outsourced the mining until the DC is done
BTC-Mining: The trading part was not however. Trading rates should have been motioned
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.082 = 0.328 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.0823 = 0.4115 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.08235 = 0.4941 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 38 @ 0.29949219 = 11.3807 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.0824 = 0.412 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: the trading provided much needed liquidity to the market
mircea_popescu: when you failed to get your original funds (1 mn btc) you should have repaid investors and that's that ; not doing that the next best thing would have been to trade market rather than your imaginary valuations. you got raped cause of them.
BTC-Mining: but was always made against existing shareholders to the profit of new people coming in. You always changed the trading rate to be under NAV to constantly attract people to trade shares with DMC.
BTC-Mining: It's that part which pissed everyone off, mostly.
Diablo-D3: no, people got pissed off at what they thought was happening
Diablo-D3: instead of thinking about it for a moment, they ran off half cocked and will probably end up costing them their investment
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.5001 = 2.0004 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.5 = 2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BLUECHIP] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCS] 11 @ 0.0105 = 0.1155 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: I traded most of the stuff for _now_ ~1 btc = 1 dmc
Diablo-D3: the only thing that differed greatly was asicminer
mircea_popescu: nah, i recall a conversation we had where you were trading about 1/6 of mkt value
Doffx: Diablo-D3, haha you have got to be the most stubborn person ive ever seen.
Doffx: I thought my wife was bad, glad im not married to you!
Diablo-D3: you have to be stubborn to do this kind of work
Diablo-D3: if you let every little thing stop you, you'd never get anything done
BTC-Mining: ... on the contrary, you need to work through them. Being little things, they're easily walked over, not impossible to pass walls.
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: yes, and I have been working through them
Diablo-D3: I havent stopped working on DMC, even with nefario's threats
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 120 @ 0.09989999 = 11.988 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 46 @ 0.0999 = 4.5954 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 99 @ 0.0999 = 9.8901 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 24 @ 0.0999999 = 2.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.09999991 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.09999994 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 24 @ 0.09999994 = 2.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 50 @ 0.0002 = 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.11968988 = 2.9922 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.119798 = 0.9584 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.09999994 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: nefario1: that you're going to shaft shareholders based on a motion most of them dont have enough information to make a decision on
[\\\]: asicminer going up, does someone know something the rest of us don't know?
nefario1: they can always vote down the motion
Doffx: Its coming out next week, you didint see the post?
Doffx: I'm completly kidding
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
jcpham: Doffx is also on that list of people repaid
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.0997 BTC [-]
Doffx: I realisticly expect these things around january
Doffx: I think even modminer will be january
BTC-Mining: He's going to either liquidate the assets and return the funds to shareholders or motion for a new person to manage DMC
Doffx: I still want to see friedcat get his going sooner.
Doffx: I am on that other list jcpham
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.0985 = 0.985 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: They'll keep all value stored in DMC's assets
Doffx: It makes me sad daily that I didnt sell at 12 when I planned then talked myself out of it
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining well his theory is that under any management other than his own investors are "getting shafted" mostly because the liquidation value of assets diverges from the arbitrary value he assigned to same assets.
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.4999 = 0.9998 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FZB.A] 46 @ 0.0321 = 1.4766 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: nefario can only liquidate assets on glbse
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.6199 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.62 = 1.24 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: are you asking the question if DMC is moving ahead on other parts of the plan? yes.
Doffx: I can sell him a brick, and some organic celery if needed/
nefario1: had some organic coke the other day
Doffx: dammit I cant seem to hit the . button tonight
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 977 @ 0.14520725 = 141.8675 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yes, I have some celery in the fridge, shareholders can have it.
Doffx: Haha, your not helping nefario1.
Doffx: Wtf with your name too
mircea_popescu: don't start with usagi-esque fraud/donations. does it own anything.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: Ive already answered the question
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: read the thread more
Doffx: mircea_popescu, is all knowing, he doesnt do threads.
mircea_popescu: Doffx i get weekly digests, but more's the point, wtf sort of q is this to need a reference answer. "yes, 500 dollars in cash and a used condom.". "no"
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: you... dont read... threads....
Doffx: haha, I was just trying to be funny.
Doffx: Need to try harder I suppose.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.61921 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.6192 = 3.096 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.6191 = 3.0955 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: argh now you sound like goat
Doffx: Not even close, there would need to be at least 10 mispellings, and 15 typos and a sentance that makes no sense whatsoever.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.09999994 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 313 @ 0.62 = 194.06 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.69 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: slightly more approximate than yours at times
Doffx: Whatever languange it is its messy
Doffx: wow thanks spell check
Doffx: What the heck is languange?
Doffx: That was an Iphone text moment in IRC.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.69 = 2.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.705653 = 2.117 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.721103 = 7.211 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: and whoever is buying gigamining: STOP WASTING YOUR MONEY
Doffx: I bought 1000 shares and traded it for DMC
Doffx: Sorry im bored and waiting for game to download.
mircea_popescu: "No BTC from DMC has gone into the web hosting service project" this would mean "no assets".
BTC-Mining: Anyone wants to get rid of their GIGAMINING shares?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: its funny you bring that up
Diablo-D3: fairpoint would largely disagree with you on that
Diablo-D3: in the contract between them and verizon when they bought up the northeast service area, assets sold to fairpoint included various contracts
Diablo-D3: fairpoint is one of the big phone companies in the US
Diablo-D3: now, what verizon did was cancel those contracts after fairpoint purchased them but before the ownership switchover date passed
Diablo-D3: so, was verizon right in canceling those contracts after selling them to fairpoint? according to you, they're not assets even though they were crucial to the operation of the phone system
assbot: [GLBSE:BAKEWELL] [Bid: 0.12500001] [Ask: 0.15] [Spread: 0.02499999] [Last: 0.15] [24hVol: 0.45] [7dAvg: 0.15]
mircea_popescu: look, if you put no company money into anything then you can't own anything. nothing from nothing doctrine.
rg: ;;later tell nefario done
BTC-Mining: Damn, I see so many lending/investments requests where people ask for a business plan/legitimate questions. And the thread owner shrugs all questions off as trolls attacking their "obvious higher intellect/business skills". Cases of too stupid to know you're stupid?
BTC-Mining: So many empty words answering so many crucial questions too...
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining hopefully anyone with any coins left has learned the pirate lesson by now
BTC-Mining: Nice looking words forming meaningless statements are not arguments... keep that kind of talking for the art gallery.
mircea_popescu: also hopefully the ones who haven't will orderly lose all their coins and will never be sufficiently many to ever matter again.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: so basically you shoved the entire service industry under a bus. good job.
BTC-Mining: The service industry! It's getting away under buses! Catch it, catch it before it escapes to the neighboring countries!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27629 @ 0.00039408 = 10.888 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "Any motions raised by shareholders will be considered non-binding advisory votes."
mircea_popescu: seems diablo DID HAVE a catchall clause in his contract.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P080N] 1 @ 0.09633473 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.034 = 0.068 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.65000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.65 = 6.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 70 @ 0.00955 = 0.6685 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.09999995 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 10 @ 0.009 = 0.09 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29044 @ 0.00039465 = 11.4622 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23509 @ 0.00039387 = 9.2595 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 10 @ 0.129 = 1.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 50 @ 0.129979 = 6.499 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 8 @ 0.09999995 = 0.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.09999995 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.09999996 = 0.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.09999998 = 0.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.09999999 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 16 @ 0.1 = 1.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11159 @ 0.00039387 = 4.3952 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090N] 7 @ 0.13485511 = 0.944 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32500 @ 0.00039504 = 12.8388 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0034 = 0.017 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DI.BFLSC.FAIL] 10 @ 0.001 = 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P080N] 8 @ 0.09569491 = 0.7656 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 6 @ 0.0889 = 0.5334 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 5 @ 0.089 = 0.445 BTC [+]
smickles: with just a few minutes to spare
smickles: the MPOE.ETF financial report :D
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1 @ 0.58539533 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: A product I'd recommend for anyone's pantry.
mircea_popescu: smickles so you sold some mpoe stock and paid back yourself whatever was left from mpex fee ?
smickles: lol, no, paid back the loan for the 20 btc GLBSE fee
assbot: [GLBSE] [GREEN] 2 @ 0.21 = 0.42 BTC [-]
smickles: mpoe.etf was charged 20btc to list
assbot: [GLBSE] [GREEN] 5 @ 0.205 = 1.025 BTC [-]
smickles: naw, i'll wait till btc are ~150 usd each for that :D
mircea_popescu: 0.31566871 wage expense, 1000% up from average, this connected ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GREEN] 3 @ 0.20010001 = 0.6003 BTC [-]
smickles: um, let me have a look at that
assbot: [GLBSE] [GREEN] 9 @ 0.2 = 1.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SS] 2 @ 0.025 = 0.05 BTC [+]
smickles: oh yeah, by the contract, wages expense is based off of real revenue
smickles: i read that as <@assbot> [GLBSE] [SS] 2 @ 0.05
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 1 @ 0.009 BTC [-]
smickles: mircea_popescu: yeah, for running it, i take a 1% cut
smickles: i guess the going rate has gone up since i started it (as deadterra is taking 5%)
smickles: it's basically the same thing because he doesn't buy/sell the underlying
smickles: i take a smaller cut for doing more work
mircea_popescu: o incidentally, Cash payments for purchase of MPOE stock.. 1.00016000
mircea_popescu: you bought stock but your stake seems to have diminished ?
smickles: bought less than sold in total
smickles: that was a purchase i arranged at .00028
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.114 = 2.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 1989 @ 0.009 = 17.901 BTC [-]
smickles: heh, buy shares in the fund :D
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 20 @ 0.15 = 3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.66999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00039314 / 0.00039577 / 0.00039885 (1217705 shares, 481.94 BTC), 30day: 0.000035 / 0.00038514 / 0.00042 (78081787 shares, 30,073.15 BTC)
mircea_popescu: so wait. if you're net - 65k yo should have 25 a yes you do
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.4999 = 2.4995 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: how long do you take to make them ? coupla hours ? more ?
assbot: [GLBSE:MPOE.ETF] [Bid: 0.00180181] [Ask: 1.34] [Spread: 1.33819819] [Last: 1.35] [24hVol: ] [7dAvg: ]
mircea_popescu: heh. impressive how inclined to recognize value glbbq is.
smickles: the reports? yeah, couple of hours at the most
mircea_popescu: speaking of standards, do you find yourself inclined to step into the dmc mess ?
BTC-Mining: I buy DMC shares by the way, if anyone is dumping them
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining they're not really worth more than 0.049 iirc ?
smickles: mircea_popescu: in what capacity?
mircea_popescu: well, they've completely fubar'd it beyond recognition, nefario and diablo. now they pretty much need a 3rd party that's not reputed mentally deficient / 3 years old
Obsi: and they have to have an epic beard as well
mircea_popescu: to pick up the pieces, make a statement abotu what the situation is, do the accountign etc
BTC-Mining: I have a poor idea of their current NAV value.
BTC-Mining: But I'll buy them if they're cheap enough
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining i recall somebody working it out somewhere but i think the holdings were sligjhtly outdated at the time
mircea_popescu: smickles iirc Diablo-D3 was asking for you to be that 3rd party.
jcpham: i think someone should pay smickles
mircea_popescu: i think so too, but i wouldn't imagine that'll muchly happen
BTC-Mining: I'll pay him in food. Is that ok with you smickles?
mircea_popescu: lol, i'd throw some btc dust into the pot if it makes the drama stop
jcpham: glbse accountant on retainer
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-A] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19085 @ 0.00039504 = 7.5393 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5066 @ 0.00039538 = 2.003 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00039711 = 8.2202 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5749 @ 0.00039737 = 2.2845 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yes, I'd rather have smickles as one of them
assbot: [GLBSE] [SS] 3 @ 0.025 = 0.075 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 2 @ 0.00999999 = 0.02 BTC [+]
smickles: well, i could probably do something to help out :)
smickles: It seems to me that something is brewing in the community to work on these sort of issues
mircea_popescu: yeah. it finally dawns on glbbq, a year later, that maybe being a little more like mpex in this respect too wouldn't be a bad thing.
smickles: Obsi: i have a beard, but i should not be the one to judge wether it be epic or epyllion
Obsi: mircea_popescu can give you tips on making it epic I'm sure
mircea_popescu: obsi you have some pent up something you want to share ?
Obsi: I want to tickle your beard
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.66999999 BTC [+]
smickles: aw, why do i leave /away on :(
Diablo-D3: smickles: btw, you run a bitcoin accounting company, right?
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 10 @ 0.05999989 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7151 @ 0.00039737 = 2.8416 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.0003974 = 10.9285 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10303 @ 0.00039817 = 4.1023 BTC [+]
smickles: Diablo-D3: i don't run accounting company. however, I am strongly considering it once i move to arizona and learn that stat's accounting regulations,licences, etc
Diablo-D3: usagi: that'd be great as long as you arent on the board of it
Diablo-D3: smickles: how much would you charge DMC to handle stuff?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 205 @ 0.1 = 20.5 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: fine, its probably the only way to keep it honest.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1200 @ 0.003 = 3.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 800 @ 0.00337901 = 2.7032 BTC [+]
smickles: all you base are belong to theymos
mircea_popescu: [\\\] well it's cause you don't talk to people. but it's fixed nao.
smickles: damn mircea_popescu , you and assbot have a thik rod together
gribble: Error: "lastseen" is not a valid command.
gribble: hashking was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 14 hours, 42 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <hashking> hi
gribble: BTCHero was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 1 hour, 20 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <BTCHero> slow night i guess
smickles: i'd like that to answer your question
smickles: was hashking ever all that talkitive in here?
Diablo-D3: maybe I should start another company
Diablo-D3: nefario cant take the assets if they're in orbit.
mircea_popescu: prolly the better avenue for you would be to find employment with some established company.
mircea_popescu: and i don't mean no forum play-pretend bullshit "companies" either.
smickles: Diablo-D3: would you just need bookkeeping or would you need reports too?
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.114 = 6.84 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 5 @ 0.00012682 = 0.0006 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00012682 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 832 @ 0.00039387 = 0.3277 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00039366 = 6.2198 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38550 @ 0.00039302 = 15.1509 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2818 @ 0.00039288 = 1.1071 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.611 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.08820001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9282 @ 0.00039288 = 3.6467 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47200 @ 0.00039281 = 18.5406 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49421 @ 0.00039269 = 19.4071 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55715 @ 0.00039266 = 21.8771 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3878 @ 0.0003926 = 1.5225 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46200 @ 0.0003926 = 18.1381 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9342 @ 0.00039257 = 3.6674 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63700 @ 0.00039245 = 24.9991 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00039242 = 8.7117 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20607 @ 0.00039239 = 8.086 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60800 @ 0.00039235 = 23.8549 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37658 @ 0.00039229 = 14.7729 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62359 @ 0.00039224 = 24.4597 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33296 @ 0.00039219 = 13.0584 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48900 @ 0.00039215 = 19.1761 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00039214 = 3.0979 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00039207 = 5.2929 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00039201 = 3.8025 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46600 @ 0.000392 = 18.2672 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35200 @ 0.00039196 = 13.797 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.00039189 = 16.1067 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00039188 = 11.5996 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00039186 = 10.9721 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52603 @ 0.00039184 = 20.612 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53932 @ 0.0003917 = 21.1252 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17578 @ 0.00039169 = 6.8851 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00039169 = 3.2902 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38900 @ 0.00039168 = 15.2364 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00039163 = 8.1851 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.0003916 = 9.8683 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58641 @ 0.00039155 = 22.9609 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00039153 = 6.8518 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33800 @ 0.00039152 = 13.2334 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24800 @ 0.0003915 = 9.7092 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15018 @ 0.00039145 = 5.8788 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61500 @ 0.00039141 = 24.0717 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.0003914 = 2.7398 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.00039139 = 9.8239 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32087 @ 0.0003913 = 12.5556 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00039123 = 1.0954 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57991 @ 0.00039122 = 22.6872 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00039111 = 8.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52796 @ 0.00039101 = 20.6438 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.000391 = 6.4906 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00039096 = 15.0129 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00039093 = 8.2877 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00039088 = 1.9153 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31444 @ 0.00039082 = 12.2889 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49547 @ 0.00039075 = 19.3605 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26400 @ 0.00039069 = 10.3142 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17710 @ 0.00039065 = 6.9184 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7301 @ 0.00039055 = 2.8514 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00039053 = 11.4425 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27726 @ 0.00039036 = 10.8231 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00039036 = 8.5489 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00039036 = 12.2573 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57339 @ 0.00039033 = 22.3811 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00039026 = 8.0784 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24020 @ 0.00039023 = 9.3733 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00039018 = 6.3599 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 320 @ 0.00039017 = 0.1249 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47600 @ 0.00039015 = 18.5711 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00039015 = 12.6409 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49800 @ 0.00038991 = 19.4175 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00038988 = 4.6006 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4689 @ 0.00038986 = 1.8281 BTC [-]
mod6: that was a good call
assbot: [GLBSE] [007] 3 @ 0.09 = 0.27 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [007] 2 @ 0.09 = 0.18 BTC [+]
smickles: naw, mpoeetf still has all the shares it had a moment ago
smickles: who was it saying all the small value trades were suspicious?
smickles: <1btc, i think. maybe less than 5
mircea_popescu: lol funny cause i just re-read the list, there's nothing < 1
smickles: i.e., a chain of sub-0.01 trades totalling less than 1btc
smickles: well i certainly like to see this depth hold and grow
mircea_popescu: nothing compred to mtgox depths yet, but we have hope.
smickles: well, there's a good hard-looking wall at .00035 it seems
smickles: and well over a hundred btc until that even gets touched
mircea_popescu: well something like 500 or maybe even 1 k just got extracted
mircea_popescu: i nthe end these aren't really too big if one thinks in terms of nyse stocks really
smickles: what would a 1kbtc sell do to giga?
assbot: [MPEX:F.GIGA.ETF] 1day: 0.000415 / 0.00042972 / 0.00047591 (118600 shares, 50.96 BTC), 30day: 0.00030644 / 0.0007656 / 0.00113797 (13928824 shares, 10,664.02 BTC)
mircea_popescu: it's been realy sold off massively, for whatever reason
smickles: huh, looking at glbse, there's tabs of 'bluemarket whitemarket pinkmarket blackmarket'
smickles: whatever reason? it's a fixed hash 'bond' isn't it?
mircea_popescu: well, glbse has to continually "reinvent" itself to distract people from the fact that pretty much any money they put in there is lost.
smickles: ah, it's categories of quality ostensibly
smickles: black has all the ppt's and such
mircea_popescu: right. had a bunch of scammy/failed stocks, made version 2.0. in due time this got filled with scammy/failed stocks so now makes colors
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 882 @ 0.0034 = 2.9988 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: [01:38:07] <smickles> Diablo-D3: would you just need bookkeeping or would you need reports too?
Diablo-D3: smickles: its the reports I suck at
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: btw, you missed that I was telling a joke
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15033 @ 0.00039715 = 5.9704 BTC [+]
smickles: Diablo-D3: i'm considering offering services at ~6 btc an hour. if you keep double entry books, i could probably make your reports in one hour
smickles: but this would have to wait until i finish moving
smickles: i should be done with that after oct 1
Diablo-D3: this would have to wait until dmc can afford that
Diablo-D3: I swear Ive had this conversation before
smickles: *insert joke; form: 'how much can you afford?' cabbie takes the money, drives one block
mircea_popescu: <Diablo-D3> smickles: its the reports I suck at << this is very true. i would guess the entire thing could have been avoided with some well written reports.
mircea_popescu: people kept asking for reports, not getting them, eventually it turned into a lynch mob.
smickles: Diablo-D3: you really think 6 btc is too much? bean counting is a professional service
Diablo-D3: smickles: our best month ever paid like 40btc dividends
mircea_popescu: ya this is the problem of btc really. both of you have a point.
gribble: Best bid: 11.6322, Best ask: 11.7, Bid-ask spread: 0.06780, Last trade: 11.63214, 24 hour volume: 36438, 24 hour low: 11.41502, 24 hour high: 11.799
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1000 @ 0.30131631 = 301.3163 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 1000 @ 0.39115708 = 391.1571 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 220 @ 0.39114219 = 86.0513 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 480 @ 0.30129138 = 144.6199 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: smickles, usagi: it may be entirely possible the entire community is full of nutjobs
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 30383 @ 0.00047591 = 14.4596 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 19617 @ 0.000485 = 9.5142 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.112 = 1.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.0999 BTC [+]
gribble: Best bid: 11.69, Best ask: 11.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 11.75, 24 hour volume: 18477, 24 hour low: 11.6, 24 hour high: 11.78991
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70400 @ 0.00035 = 24.64 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 9 @ 0.99 = 8.91 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.0999 = 2.4975 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6329 @ 0.00035061 = 2.219 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46324 @ 0.00039699 = 18.3902 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47347 @ 0.0003971 = 18.8015 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 4 @ 0.15 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [UDN] 1 @ 0.04998999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [UDN] 1 @ 0.04999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 130 @ 0.32 = 41.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 57 @ 0.0999 = 5.6943 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 343 @ 0.1 = 34.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 45 @ 0.03158745 = 1.4214 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.03144282 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.03117194 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 14 @ 0.0310594 = 0.4348 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.03090401 = 0.0618 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.03077875 = 0.0923 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.03065739 = 0.2146 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.03051631 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.03031472 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.030279 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 109 @ 0.03 = 3.27 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 15 @ 0.0261 = 0.3915 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23653 @ 0.0003971 = 9.3926 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2120 @ 0.00039711 = 0.8419 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9647 @ 0.00039817 = 3.8411 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.0003985 = 9.9625 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3724 @ 0.00039885 = 1.4853 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.0003989 = 6.0234 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59309 @ 0.00039898 = 23.6631 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51200 @ 0.00039938 = 20.4483 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00039941 = 0.5192 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13569 @ 0.00039997 = 5.4272 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00039999 = 9.9998 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56147 @ 0.00040062 = 22.4936 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00040063 = 6.8908 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57000 @ 0.00040108 = 22.8616 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00040112 = 1.6847 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61437 @ 0.00040115 = 24.6455 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3605 @ 0.00040116 = 1.4462 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49000 @ 0.00040156 = 19.6764 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41600 @ 0.00040167 = 16.7095 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00040172 = 7.713 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52062 @ 0.00040183 = 20.9201 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17396 @ 0.00040196 = 6.9925 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00040206 = 6.9958 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00040208 = 12.6253 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11599 @ 0.00040223 = 4.6655 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00040236 = 11.2661 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00040242 = 9.1752 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.0004025 = 1.771 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54800 @ 0.00040263 = 22.0641 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00040284 = 5.1161 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56134 @ 0.00040285 = 22.6136 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00040346 = 10.3286 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00040362 = 2.9464 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55900 @ 0.00040383 = 22.5741 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44100 @ 0.00040387 = 17.8107 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46100 @ 0.00040406 = 18.6272 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00040426 = 12.4512 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41200 @ 0.00040459 = 16.6691 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1298 @ 0.00040583 = 0.5268 BTC [+]
copumpkin: it's pretty standard practice to make a ladder of orders
copumpkin: I think it's like mtgox, where if your order for X crosses 100 small orders during execution, all of them get reported
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: does MPEX report a separate trade for all orders crossed?
copumpkin: that would explain them coming in batches and being comparatively small
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 3 @ 0.35 = 1.05 BTC [+]
copumpkin: well, if you report the aggregate active order, you need to talk about the average price it executed at
copumpkin: reporting smaller crossed orders can be exact
mircea_popescu: but in principle this is something that the aggregators do.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: o wait. is some idiot on my ignore list being an ass ?
mircea_popescu: lettuce point out to the anonymous yet random idiot that a second ago that dubious tyger-p-whatever DID THE EXACT SAME THING
mircea_popescu: albeit on a scale more adequate to the failure that is glbbq, which is to say 100th
copumpkin: Smoovious: what's wrong with that?
copumpkin: if you're not going to let people take fractional shares, having lots of small shares is almost as good :)
mircea_popescu: it's incredible these people. they do something WRONG because they are INCOMPETENT. then they get used to it. then when somebody does it right they whine.
copumpkin: Smoovious: what's wrong with having loads of tiny shares?
copumpkin: that's what I was saying is more efficient
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 4 @ 0.15 = 0.6 BTC [+]
copumpkin: say you have some criterion for picking an optimal portfolio, and the optimal portfolio wants 1.3 shares of BRK-A
copumpkin: you can't do that, because you don't have fractional shares
copumpkin: so you either need to have too much BRK-A, or too little
copumpkin: you make an excellent argument and I concede
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 9 @ 0.6549 = 5.8941 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 8 @ 0.655 = 5.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 20 @ 0.697699 = 13.954 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 30 @ 0.6977 = 20.931 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 3 @ 0.69998 = 2.0999 BTC [+]
jcpham: i like to make sure the books on the shelf are listed by library of congress number
assbot: [GLBSE] [PIMP] 100 @ 0.101 = 10.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PIMP] 100 @ 0.1 = 10 BTC [-]
jcpham: stop breathing my oxygen
BTC-Mining: I need more assets... who's selling DMC?
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining i seriously doubt anyone holds dmc outside of the people he traded assets with.
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0034 / 0.0034 / 0.0034 (8000 shares, 27.20 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00329454 / 0.0034 (4637641 shares, 15,278.91 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 900 @ 0.00043545 = 0.3919 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11500 @ 0.00042821 = 4.9244 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1000 @ 0.00042665 = 0.4267 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7774 @ 0.00042487 = 3.3029 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3271 @ 0.00042197 = 1.3803 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 555 @ 0.00041616 = 0.231 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 74 @ 0.12999 = 9.6193 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Wasn't the new design supposed to be out already?
BTC-Mining: Kick evoorhees for me. Tell him to have the new design ready already.
mircea_popescu: if i were to kick him for something, it'd be to never change it in the first place.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 194 @ 0.0030505 = 0.5918 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 25 @ 0.00339999 = 0.085 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 475 @ 0.0033999 = 1.615 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: Arf, I need to find a good deal somewhere
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 2 @ 0.495 = 0.99 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: pink white blue black market implemented
BTC-Mining: with default market page not including black market assets
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3825 @ 0.00041616 = 1.5918 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: and all pirate/scam/gone issuer assets are in black market it seems
BTC-Mining: I'm now back in the top 20 of traded assets
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.665889 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.162998 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0033999 = 0.0102 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 77 @ 0.1 = 7.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.5553 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [IBB] 1 @ 0.5897 BTC [-]