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assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 3 @ 0.08 = 0.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 1 @ 0.0035 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 16 @ 0.104 = 1.664 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.83211 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 7 @ 0.4642 = 3.2494 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 9 @ 0.4643 = 4.1787 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 32 @ 0.464397 = 14.8607 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 83 @ 0.464398 = 38.545 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 10 @ 0.464398 = 4.644 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 150 @ 0.464499 = 69.6749 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 5 @ 0.46798 = 2.3399 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 61 @ 0.4694 = 28.6334 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.47 = 2.82 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 10 @ 0.465 = 4.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 7 @ 0.47 = 3.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 23 @ 0.104 = 2.392 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.83211 = 4.9927 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.83201 = 4.1601 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.832 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.831 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 50 @ 0.83011 = 41.5055 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.82 = 4.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 100 @ 0.82 = 82 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 534 @ 0.00087952 = 0.4697 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5757 @ 0.00086483 = 4.9788 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11800 @ 0.00085871 = 10.1328 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 14763 @ 0.00085773 = 12.6627 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12518 @ 0.00085675 = 10.7248 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2106 @ 0.00084605 = 1.7818 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1522 @ 0.00084539 = 1.2867 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3179 @ 0.00084539 = 2.6875 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 14600 @ 0.00084171 = 12.289 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9221 @ 0.00082845 = 7.6391 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 12 @ 0.45 = 5.4 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Is it me or gigavps profile picture looks photoshoped?
kakobrekla: who cares?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.104 = 10.4 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Not really, I just noticed
BTC-Mining: Not that I care.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 1 @ 0.08499999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 3 @ 0.085 = 0.255 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5514 @ 0.00082845 = 4.5681 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 2 @ 0.00012189 = 0.0002 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9786 @ 0.00080868 = 7.9137 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 20 @ 0.00363873 = 0.0728 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 100 @ 0.00360259 = 0.3603 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: photoshopped how ?
kakobrekla: mp cares.
mircea_popescu: that's his wife no ?
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13500 @ 0.00082999 = 11.2049 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P070T] 2 @ 0.02956441 = 0.0591 BTC [+]
smickles: mircea_popescu: I had to make your disgusting acheivements public
mircea_popescu: o ?
mircea_popescu: what achievements ?
smickles: http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Mircea_Popescu
mircea_popescu: it occurs to me that article could benefit from a picture of my cock.
copumpkin: lol
mircea_popescu: also wtf they mean stub.
mircea_popescu: it's not a stub.
copumpkin: they're talking about your cock
mircea_popescu: o rly ?
mircea_popescu: and what's this ciuciu bs, everyone knows mpoe-pr's secret lover is psy
smickles: mircea_popescu: that's why i titled the section 'personal lives'
smickles: we all know you 2 time psy
mircea_popescu: im really copumpkin and i dunno what you're talking about
smickles: lol, i just looked to see if copumpkin /nicked to you
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: ;;trilema
gribble: Error: "trilema" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.70001, Best ask: 10.77699, Bid-ask spread: 0.07698, Last trade: 10.75, 24 hour volume: 30456, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 10.93199
assbot: [GLBSE] [IBB] 4 @ 0.55 = 2.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 4 @ 0.1 = 0.4 BTC [+]
smickles: oh no
smickles: the last line didn't make it
assbot: [GLBSE] [GERBITIN.PYRA] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GERBITIN.PYRA] 1 @ 0.98 BTC [+]
smickles: there we go mircea_popescu, the punchline is there
mircea_popescu: wiki you mean ?
smickles: ya
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: i must confess you and rg look really fetching in that pic
mircea_popescu: also you're boobsisters, your left is hanging.
assbot: [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 5 @ 1.04 = 5.2 BTC [-]
smickles: good boob tape is hard to find
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
dub: lol EB
dub: whose is that?
mircea_popescu: MrTiggr
chmod755: dub: http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Main:About
assbot: [GLBSE] [JTME] 1 @ 0.9448 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: o, you too chmod755 ?
mircea_popescu: lol prank phone
mircea_popescu: does that imply ownership of the casting couch ?
chmod755: yep
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.104 = 0.416 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 20 @ 0.00024 = 0.0048 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 5 @ 0.1015 = 0.5075 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 5 @ 0.00012189 = 0.0006 BTC [+]
Wolf_L: I think Satoshi Dice is going to crash.
mircea_popescu: whyssat ?
kakobrekla: !ticker s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0034 / 0.0034 / 0.0034 (2900 shares, 9.86 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00324671 / 0.0034 (2772563 shares, 9,001.73 BTC)
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust pirateat40
gribble: Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user pirateat40: Level 1: -1, Level 2: 40 via 15 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=pirateat40
mircea_popescu: ;;ident pirateat40
gribble: Nick 'pirateat40', with hostmask 'pirateat40!~pirateat4@unaffiliated/pirateat40', is not identified.
chmod755: ::gettrust pirateat40
chmod755: ;;gettrust pirateat40
gribble: Trust relationship from user chmod755 to user pirateat40: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 1 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=chmod755&dest=pirateat40
mircea_popescu: hmm
chmod755: O.o
mircea_popescu: that graph really should blink red if there's -'s
mircea_popescu: 40 as in 60-20 is not the same as 40 as in 40 - 0
coingenuity: lmfao
coingenuity: ;;gettrust mircea_popescu
gribble: Trust relationship from user coingenuity to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 9 via 6 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=coingenuity&dest=mircea_popescu
coingenuity: heheheh
mircea_popescu: o wow ?
coingenuity: WoT at work
chmod755: ;;gettrust coingenuity
gribble: Trust relationship from user chmod755 to user coingenuity: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=chmod755&dest=coingenuity
chmod755: :o
coingenuity: XD
mircea_popescu: how come you -'d imsaguy ?
coingenuity: you dont participate on OTC much eh
coingenuity: @ chmod755
chmod755: ;;gettrust mircea_popescu
gribble: Trust relationship from user chmod755 to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=chmod755&dest=mircea_popescu
chmod755: coingenuity: not rly
coingenuity: mircea_popescu: cuz he gave me a negative rating with a reason ":(" as an abuse of the rating system
mircea_popescu: hm
coingenuity: i don't really like that
coingenuity: it's not what otc is for
mircea_popescu: well yeah.
mircea_popescu: i thought it was fallout from the entire pirate rthing
coingenuity: and i saw him do it to a bunch of other people as well... so feh
coingenuity: nah, not involved in the pirate thing at all lol
chmod755: mircea_popescu: i agree: 40-0 != 60-20
chmod755: it should be
chmod755: ;;calc 60-(20**20)
gribble: -104857600000000000000000000
chmod755: ^
mircea_popescu: i was talking with toffoo yest, sorta collecting people who didn't get burned in this, bitcoinica and mybitcoin
coingenuity: check check and check
coingenuity: and i was around for all 3
coingenuity: lol
mircea_popescu: chmod755 well maybe not quite that extreme, but... still. someone should drop sera j a line
mircea_popescu: coingenuity so was i, shockingly.
chmod755: oops
mircea_popescu: so then that's 3.
coingenuity: oh wait
coingenuity: i got burned on bitcoinica
coingenuity: for 0.0003 btc
coingenuity: :((((((((((
mircea_popescu: eh doesn't count.
chmod755: lol
coingenuity: MY LIFE SAVINGS!
coingenuity: :P
mircea_popescu: that's not a burning that's a light warming
coingenuity: lmfao
coingenuity: i abandoned it since i thought bitcoinica was a crappy platform
chmod755: i didn't get burned in bitcoinica, mybitcoin, pirate, etc
mircea_popescu: o hey! so 4 then.
mircea_popescu: coingenuity onefixt for instance was trying to get them since forever to up the security
mircea_popescu: people always think they know better than anyone.
coingenuity: :/ yeah
mod6: i was around for all three, didn't get burned by any either.
coingenuity: ;;bc,tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 33 minutes and 54 seconds
coingenuity: :O
chmod755: 33 minutes?
mircea_popescu: all the asics
chmod755: ;;sudo make me a block
gribble: do it yourself, punk.
mircea_popescu: well actually there was one ~52 minutes last week.
mircea_popescu: as difficulty goes up i think time variance will also increase.
coingenuity: yeah weve seen some crazy long ones
mircea_popescu: this might actually be the main flaw of birtcoin so far.
mircea_popescu: with a diff of 2trn we might see three hour blocks.
coingenuity: have seen some close to it
coingenuity: we have had some LONG fsckin blocks
mircea_popescu: basically what's difficulty ? it's pot odds. with low diff you have a 1:100 chance to win the pot. with higher it goes up, 1:10k etc
mircea_popescu: if it's 1 to 10 billion well... getting lucky might take a long long time.
kakobrekla: but you have more people pulling tickets
mircea_popescu: that's exactly it.
mircea_popescu: if you do 100 tickets/hour and odds are 1:100 you might have to wait two hours.
mircea_popescu: if you do 100million tickets/hour and odds are 1:100mn you might have to wait a day and a half.
kakobrekla: nah
kakobrekla: you are getting emotional
mircea_popescu: ahaa am i ?
mircea_popescu: i think it's basic statistics tbh
mircea_popescu: as the odds of a phenomenon occuring go down, the variance in it's observation goes up. not in fixed proportion, but still, monotonous growing function.
coingenuity: hit a block yay
chmod755: ;;bc,tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 1 minute and 46 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00039407 = 3.586 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.7, Best ask: 10.7699, Bid-ask spread: 0.06990, Last trade: 10.7699, 24 hour volume: 30969, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 10.93199
kakobrekla: mp, but difficulty is also affected by 'luck' or 'odds of occuring'
mircea_popescu: incredibly low volume isn't it
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla what do you mean ?
kakobrekla: well its only affecty by odds of occuring tbh
kakobrekla: not by hashrate
mircea_popescu: well ya, i wasn't speaking of hashrate.
mircea_popescu: just difficulty.
kakobrekla: well anyway
kakobrekla: i guess if there will be more longer blocks
kakobrekla: more people will use smpake
mircea_popescu: i guess so hehehe
Wolf_L: Chaang-Noi continues to fight the good fight
Wolf_L: Pirate will not win
Wolf_L: He will not settle for less than what the people are due.
Wolf_L: FOR THE WORKERS
mircea_popescu: o ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 99 @ 0.1039 = 10.2861 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 364 @ 0.104 = 37.856 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 450 @ 0.104888 = 47.1996 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 63 @ 0.104889 = 6.608 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 24 @ 0.1048899 = 2.5174 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 34 @ 0.139 = 4.726 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46644 @ 0.00039327 = 18.3437 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 1 @ 0.1015 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 47 @ 0.95 = 44.65 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 40 @ 0.13999 = 5.5996 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Go BTC Mining
BTC-Mining: At this rate I will own all BTC-Mining shares =/
mircea_popescu: buying into the selloff ?
BTC-Mining: aye
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 14 @ 0.16 = 2.24 BTC [-]
smickles: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 196475 | Current Difficulty: 2440642.606916 | Next Difficulty At Block: 197567 | Next Difficulty In: 1092 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 0 hours, 2 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2646929.59678370 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.45215884059
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.11001339 = 1.1001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 21 @ 0.14 = 2.94 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 104 @ 0.17 = 17.68 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 51 @ 0.399 = 20.349 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 6 @ 0.16 = 0.96 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00039407 = 3.0343 BTC [+]
Ignatius-otc: BTC-Mining: what are your intentions for BTC-BOND when the available shares are all sold, will you issue more shares?
BTC-Mining: Possibly, as long as the total amount loaned from BTC-BOND is equal or less than 50% of the total amount of investments made
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.08760001 BTC [-]
Ignatius-otc: Any idea how much room for ivnest that actually is, in btc terms?
Ignatius-otc: investment*
BTC-Mining: Around 1400 BTC
Ignatius-otc: gotcha, thank you
BTC-Mining: Which would match my personal investment, making the loan 50% of the total
BTC-Mining: I'll probably keep a larger margin however since some stocks can go down in value
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.1048 = 2.62 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.08760001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.08721 = 0.1744 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00039407 = 10.2852 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00039446 = 6.3903 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00039487 = 1.0661 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINRS] 2 @ 0.050001 = 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINRS] 2 @ 0.047 = 0.094 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 0.14 = 0.42 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 49 @ 0.1048899 = 5.1396 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.17248 = 1.7248 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.1734 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.0929 = 0.1858 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 7 @ 0.093 = 0.651 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 646 @ 0.00082999 = 0.5362 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6384 @ 0.00083 = 5.2987 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12914 @ 0.00081533 = 10.5292 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 14800 @ 0.00080874 = 11.9694 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2286 @ 0.00078927 = 1.8043 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MATH] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00039327 = 0.3933 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOT] 14 @ 0.91 = 12.74 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7163 @ 0.00039327 = 2.817 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13437 @ 0.00039203 = 5.2677 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 120 @ 0.0147 = 1.764 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 41 @ 0.0147 = 0.6027 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 0.154998 = 0.31 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 50 @ 0.154999 = 7.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 98 @ 0.17899 = 17.541 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0034 = 0.0068 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 3 @ 0.15498 = 0.4649 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 50 @ 0.15499 = 7.7495 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 2 @ 1.3 = 2.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.5-10.MININGBOND] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN] 2 @ 1.01 = 2.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 2 @ 0.0095 = 0.019 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 59 @ 0.000116 = 0.0068 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00305 = 0.0061 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.003003 = 0.03 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.17160848 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 18 @ 0.2399 = 4.3182 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.24 = 4.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 98 @ 0.30999999 = 30.38 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 164 @ 0.31 = 50.84 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.72, Best ask: 10.77999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05999, Last trade: 10.77999, 24 hour volume: 29744, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 10.93199
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 13 @ 0.332 = 4.316 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 28 @ 0.34 = 9.52 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 9 @ 0.088 = 0.792 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITNODES] 3 @ 0.2529 = 0.7587 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 300 @ 0.003003 = 0.9009 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16306 @ 0.00039487 = 6.4388 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 18 @ 0.125002 = 2.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 125 @ 0.12500001 = 15.625 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 23 @ 0.125 = 2.875 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 39 @ 0.1 = 3.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 94 @ 0.1 = 9.4 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lmao what is this tygrr bond bs ? 50 btc @ 0,31 half hour ago, now .1 ?
Chaang-Noi: that was me
Chaang-Noi: selling
Chaang-Noi: added a 0 where i should not have
Chaang-Noi: oh well lol
mircea_popescu: you sold at .12 ?!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22394 @ 0.00039487 = 8.8427 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6592 @ 0.00039526 = 2.6056 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: yes i sold at .12
Chaang-Noi: and .1
Chaang-Noi: i wanted to list at .30 but i fucked up and did .03
Chaang-Noi: no coffee
Chaang-Noi: anyway only 300 shares and pirates not going to pay anyway
mircea_popescu: myea.
Chaang-Noi: im fine with that sale at .1
Chaang-Noi: but it was a slip
Chaang-Noi: i sold 1000 shares at .06 yesterday
mircea_popescu: im surprised anyone's still buying.
MoneyIsDebt: well, it's pretty much the only thing to daytrade
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 10 @ 1 = 10 BTC [-]
MoneyIsDebt: got more volume than anything on glbse
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 6 @ 1.04 = 6.24 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it did lose a lot of volume this month didn't it.
BTC-Mining: Aye, well with the pirate mess, not much trading anymore
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00039526 = 1.8972 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: yeah glbse is dead right now more or less
Chaang-Noi: i assumed this would happen
Chaang-Noi: its why i never bought yarr
Chaang-Noi: insurance backed by assets on glbse, when glbse is pumped up by pirate money
Chaang-Noi: everony sells
mircea_popescu: well, it had a good run. two versions and all.
mircea_popescu: im sure some people will miss it.
Chaang-Noi: oh lol, it is still 10,000x more active and useable than anyhting else
mircea_popescu: lolz.
BTC-Mining: lol mircea, stop acting like GLBSE is going away
Chaang-Noi: glbse is not going anywhere
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining it is.
mircea_popescu: it has the volume of a limp duck.
Chaang-Noi: at least it has that
MoneyIsDebt: also it's being registered in the UK
Chaang-Noi: better than porn site mpex
mircea_popescu: but hey, last guy in turn off the lights.
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi you realise glbse is currently one of the mpex brokers and nothing else ?
mircea_popescu: not even the highest volume one, at that.
Chaang-Noi: and nothing else?
Chaang-Noi: lol okay im done with you, if you need to lie to sound importnat i wont talk to you, just like i wont talk to d3
BTC-Mining: GLBSE is still beta software, it's not even technically released yet...
mircea_popescu: lolz
mircea_popescu: !ticker gigamining
assbot: [GLBSE:GIGAMINING] [Bid: 0.79991] [Ask: 0.867799] [Spread: 0.067889] [Last: 0.82] [24hVol: 174.9283189] [7dAvg: 0.90897214]
mircea_popescu: !ticker f.giga.etf
assbot: [MPEX:F.GIGA.ETF] 1day: 0.00078927 / 0.00086024 / 0.0009155 (347750 shares, 299.15 BTC), 30day: 0.00064789 / 0.00098639 / 0.00115139 (7894546 shares, 7,787.16 BTC)
mircea_popescu: even giga's etf does more volume on mpex than on glbse.
mircea_popescu: srsly, you need a handle on reality Chaang-Noi.
Chaang-Noi: you moving stocks back and forth to your account is not "volume"
mircea_popescu: lmao right.
mircea_popescu: ahahahaah
mircea_popescu: weren't you just telling about how you're pushing your own silly cvasi-fraud ?
mircea_popescu: what teh fuck you talking about lmao
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3700 @ 0.00079232 = 2.9316 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 8 @ 0.1048899 = 0.8391 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10583 @ 0.00079232 = 8.3851 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu, howmany users do you have
Chaang-Noi: selling and buying my debt to make money is differnt than faking volume to make it look like i ahve volume...
mircea_popescu: dude, it's just funnay. you've been trading with yourself to give the appearance of volume to that turd of yours, and now you accuse me of doing it ? lol.
mircea_popescu: im sure it'll stick. what with you being credible and all.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla im actually starting to suspect more than glbse. a bunch added this month, too.
kakobrekla: ballpark number?
BTC-Mining: mircea, stop deluding yourself... if you don't make an interface like a broker and insist on having a stock exchange backbone and only allow quality companies IPOing, you'll need brokerage platforms like GLBSE
BTC-Mining: Which acts like any bank's online brokerage service
mircea_popescu: more than 100 less than 1k.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining i would like better run platforms tho.
BTC-Mining: It's a beta... it's not even supposed to be finished yet...
mircea_popescu: right.
BTC-Mining: People just started using it
mircea_popescu: lol. you are aware glbse was scamming investors back in june last year right ?
Ignatius-otc: I wasn't aware, links?
BTC-Mining: You should show proof indeed.
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc SIN. LIF.A LIF.B LIF.CX. SMM. DISHWARA. PBJ. UBTC. BitFlowSys. GEM. SLV. BID. USGOLD. BB. SDM.
mircea_popescu: forum's your friend.
mircea_popescu: add it all up, it comes up to more than the most recent pirate thingee.
mircea_popescu: this if we look the other way and pretend to not notice that giga's thing went from 1.5 to .8 in the time it took it to pay ~.2 in dividends.
BTC-Mining: Was any of those asset issued by Nefario?
mircea_popescu: o dude i dunno, there was this guy that came and stole your money in my house ?! odd dood...
mircea_popescu: o, you mean we were all friendly and all ? well... ya, it happens, you know... investin'.
mircea_popescu: in da hood.
mircea_popescu: free market!
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1417 @ 0.00079232 = 1.1227 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: glbse clearly state they're not regulating what's getting on the platform and to investigate the issuer yourself
mircea_popescu: and this clearly is a flawed business model.
BTC-Mining: Also Gigamining paid over 0.4BTC in dividends so far
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.0003934 = 0.4721 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !pl gigamining 1.5
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: GIGAMINING [1@1.5BTC] paid: 0.41490096 BTC. Last price: 0.82 BTC. Capital gain: -0.68 BTC. Total: -0.26509904 BTC. (-17.7%)
mircea_popescu: 41 the man says, but you got a point there.
mircea_popescu: -17% in 4 months is not so bad, given the alternatives on glbse.
BTC-Mining: don't forget that GIGAMINING is not completly fixed, it upgrades
mircea_popescu: im just working on past data.
mircea_popescu: the future's outside the scope of this conversation.
mircea_popescu: .py 0.823 ** 3
markac: 0.557441767
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7600 @ 0.00080907 = 6.1489 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: half yer money in a year, who can argue with that.
Obsi: !pl futurefund 0.0001
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: FUTUREFUND [1@0.0001BTC] paid: 1.625E-5 BTC. Last price: 0.000116 BTC. Capital gain: 1.6E-5 BTC. Total: 0.00003225 BTC. (32.3%)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39701 @ 0.0003934 = 15.6184 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34008 @ 0.00039526 = 13.442 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5519 @ 0.00039584 = 2.1846 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10372 @ 0.0003959 = 4.1063 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00039624 = 6.8946 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37900 @ 0.00039662 = 15.0319 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39000 @ 0.00039689 = 15.4787 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00039712 = 4.686 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27922 @ 0.0003973 = 11.0934 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6378 @ 0.00039781 = 2.5372 BTC [+]
Ignatius-otc: I fail to see a direct connection showing collusion by GLBSE staff.
kakobrekla: when are smpoe div commin out
Ignatius-otc: Next time you are looking at one mp, please forward it along.
mircea_popescu: tomorrow about this time kakobrekla
kakobrekla: k
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc mkay, lets see here
BTC-Mining: yes, yes... and you're completly ignoring why the price is currently low and declare it as a linear loss of value
Chaang-Noi: !pl gigamining 1
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
Chaang-Noi: i bought in at 1
BTC-Mining: Didn't gigamining IPO at 1 by the way?
assbot: GIGAMINING [1@1BTC] paid: 0.41490096 BTC. Last price: 0.82 BTC. Capital gain: -0.18 BTC. Total: 0.23490096 BTC. (23.5%)
Chaang-Noi: yes i bought a huge amount at 1
BTC-Mining: Making it a 0.20 loss for 0.40 dividend?
Chaang-Noi: yeah i think i did well
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35775.msg699659#msg699659 you can start there Ignatius-otc
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining why is the price currently low ?
Chaang-Noi: i also sold some very near 1.5
Ignatius-otc: I would normally just do the work myself mp, but I have already went on a wild goose chase once today. To read about Chaang and his glbse "scandal". Wasn't worth my time and didn't prove Chaang dishonest or doing wrong.
Ignatius-otc: ok ty for the link
BTC-Mining: The price of bitcoin more than doubled since it IPOed and mining difficulty has been raising accordingly
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi is just front and center in pretty much any drama, but other than that it's not clearly proven he's dishonest.
mircea_popescu: just a little silly at times.
BTC-Mining: Thus price lowered, however Gigamining's rig should get upgraded.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining and we should discount this for what reason ?
Chaang-Noi: means a great deal coming from you mircea
Chaang-Noi: i would ahte for anyone to think we were friends
mircea_popescu: lol
Chaang-Noi: yeah im very happy with giga stock
BTC-Mining: <@assbot> GIGAMINING [1@1BTC] paid: 0.41490096 BTC. Last price: 0.82 BTC. Capital gain: -0.18 BTC. Total: 0.23490096 BTC. (23.5%)
BTC-Mining: 0.41 paid, -0.18 capital gain, net +23.5%
BTC-Mining: Gigamining's price at IPO wasn't bad
mircea_popescu: as long as we're making scenarios, you could have bought at 1 sold at 1.5
mircea_popescu: some people did.
BTC-Mining: aye, and some people overpaid the stock
mircea_popescu: more's the point, on any stock chart you can make these imaginary paths where you win money no matter what happens.
mircea_popescu: with the benefit of knowing the future, that's grea.t
BTC-Mining: Indeed, you could, assuming you can foresee the future... unfortunatly you can't
Chaang-Noi: im glad im friends with james :)
Chaang-Noi: and let me in on the ipo
mircea_popescu: it was public on the forums wasn't it.
BTC-Mining: hmm...
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.78001, Best ask: 10.79, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 10.78, 24 hour volume: 29529, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 10.907
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.4693 = 0.9386 BTC [-]
Ignatius-otc: mircea_popescu: what measures are in place on mpex to prevent a lif.* like asset from defaulting in the way the thread you linked to me describes?
assbot: [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 1 @ 1 BTC
Ignatius-otc: does mpex have investment funds? if so, when they are poorly managed and lose most/all btc...how would this play out any differently if the exchange were mpex instead of glbse
Chaang-Noi: there is not money traded on mpex so nothing can be lost
mircea_popescu: i don't allow random people to list.
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi now why do you insist to lie on the matter ?
Chaang-Noi: not a lie, but an exageration to absurdity
Chaang-Noi: clearly a few btc is on your exchange
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS] 2 @ 1.09 = 2.18 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS] 1 @ 1.099 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: but you are aware that glbse did something like 20% of the satoshi dice volume, right ?
Chaang-Noi: so yes you can be scammed too
mircea_popescu: mostly because... it has no investors.
mircea_popescu: of course i can be scammed too.
mircea_popescu: the difference is that i haven't been.
Chaang-Noi: glbse took 20% of the volume of a stock on your exchange? oh lol
mircea_popescu: just like any wife could be a whore. she has the equipment.
Ignatius-otc: is there an actual third party blockchain like way to verify any of your volume claims mp?
mircea_popescu: the ideea is that some are and some aren't.
Chaang-Noi: thats pretty funny stat
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc you could try twitter i guess ?
Ignatius-otc: twitter? as proof of volume? so...the same as glbse?
Chaang-Noi: why would 20% not wnt to use your exchange and pick glbse over it? oh wiat, never mind :)
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi because they don't have 20 btc, mostly.
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc how would you construct proof of volume ?
mircea_popescu: in an ideal world ?
Ignatius-otc: trusted third party verification
mircea_popescu: there's not that many third parties that i trust.
Ignatius-otc: just generally aksing though, your statements seem like they could alle asily apply to any exchange,even yours
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43000 @ 0.00039724 = 17.0813 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: which specifically ?
Ignatius-otc: apply easily*
Ignatius-otc: mainly the collusion thing is what got me to chime in and the fun here
mircea_popescu: a. well here's the thing :
Ignatius-otc: i still havent seen anything suggesting glbse is in collusion with defaulting assets
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: you got neighbourhood A, where there never was a violent crime. you got neighbourhood B, where about half the citizens routinely get hauled off to prison on various violent charges.
mircea_popescu: now... where do you make your home ?
mircea_popescu: sure, in principle crime is crime, it can happen anywhere, innocent till proven guilty and all that.
mircea_popescu: but, where do you make your home ?
Ignatius-otc: that wasn't my concern
mircea_popescu: well that was the extent of my argument.
Ignatius-otc: my concern is when you alluded multiple times that glbse staff are/were involved in scams
mircea_popescu: shit happens too many times it's either incompetence or collusion.
BTC-Mining: This isn't about making your home tho, it's about making money
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining no, the making money part has been longresolved. anyone with any capital and any sense goes wherwe the volume is.
mircea_popescu: we're on to discussing the irrational part, of homemaking.
BTC-Mining: and although GLBSE had many scam/default, when chosen correctly, the assets pay a lot more.
mircea_popescu: that being the last argument left, really.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining do you know which is the highest yield asset on glbse ?
BTC-Mining: So people only go where the volume is eh? Guess we should all strictly invest in government bonds then
BTC-Mining: The highest were pirate's passthrough
mircea_popescu: nope
mircea_popescu: try again ?
BTC-Mining: hmm... OBSI.HRPT currently
mircea_popescu: mnope
mircea_popescu: want a third or are you bored ?
BTC-Mining: Bored
mircea_popescu: !pl mpoe.etf 0.1
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
mircea_popescu: gee they take this beta thing seriously.
assbot: MPOE.ETF [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.0104835 BTC. Last price: 1.3 BTC. Capital gain: 1.2 BTC. Total: 1.2104835 BTC. (1210.5%)
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.0622 BTC [-]
Ignatius-otc: To be clear I personally am not arguing that any glbse asset is a sound investment, I just want to make sure the exchange itself is reputable.
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc how would you do that ?
Ignatius-otc: similar to feedback systems all voer the internet is how I personally went about it
mircea_popescu: i regard it as disreputable. i might just be biased. some people regard it as reputable. course they don't tend to disclose their ownership interest in it.
mircea_popescu: what can you do ?
Ignatius-otc: and in doing so, found absolutely no evidence glbse is up to no good, same for chaang, yet I watch you sit here and bash the fk out of these things pretty frequently...
BTC-Mining: and that's strictly because it went up in value very fast...
BTC-Mining: unfortunatly such raises are hard to foresee =/
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining dude. you don't like volume, you don't like price appreciation... is there something you can put your finger on rationally or are you just emotionally invested in this discussion ?
BTC-Mining: I just have a problem with you bashing everything but MPEX randomly spouting as fact things you haven't researched or have proof for. Like claiming GIGAMINING devalued almost 50% when it IPOed at 1 and not 1.5
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining it ipoed at 1 for a select few that had the money. and it did not ipo on glbse.
mircea_popescu: so this is really nonsense.
mircea_popescu: other than that, i've backed up everyrthing i said with hard fact, which in general seems to be easily discounted for some sentiment of "i know better".
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2737 @ 0.00039724 = 1.0872 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2885 @ 0.00039781 = 1.1477 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10378 @ 0.00039795 = 4.1299 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: in the immortal words of jwu, Aug 27 17:34:17 <JWU_42> mircea_popescu: as with so many things, niot just finance, ego becomes involved and bad decisions are made
mircea_popescu: that;'s pretty much the gist of it. everyoen thinks "they know better". it's a very easy thing to get.
Ignatius-otc: but that is not the case for my interaction with you mp. it consisted of you making claims bashing others which you never backed up. just fyi
BTC-Mining: So, MPOE.ETF made 1210% so far. Tell me, how much has S.MPOE made on MPEX?
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining the same, roguhly ?
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc speciffically, such a claim ?
BTC-Mining: I thought it went up about 3-4 times?
mircea_popescu: cause you were calling them claims "alusions" a few lines back.
Ignatius-otc: Implying GLBSE is colluding to scam investors.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00039714 = 8.9754 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining yes. the etf had dibbs on the early distribution, which was auctioned in fixed blocks, if you recall ?
Ignatius-otc: You linked me to a thread about a GLBSE asset default.
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc that implication is sufficiently borne by the extraordinary concentration of scam assets there.
Ignatius-otc: I understand that opinion
Ignatius-otc: but you portray that opinion here as fact
mircea_popescu: if you don't think so, that's fine, but you can't say "i never backed it up". i have.
mircea_popescu: the concentration is a fact.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.4693 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 9 @ 0.4694 = 4.2246 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 30 @ 0.4695 = 14.085 BTC [+]
Ignatius-otc: By that logic BTC is horrible, as it has a high concentration of scams...?
mircea_popescu: i never saw a btc scam.
mircea_popescu: all the btc i ever received are safely in my wallet.
mircea_popescu: if a good portion of the btc received would evaporate from my wallet
mircea_popescu: i'd have been out of here long, long ago.
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.535 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.54 = 1.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 9 @ 0.55 = 4.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.559 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 10 @ 0.56 = 5.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 17 @ 0.57 = 9.69 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: now specifically, as to the collusion discussion, quote defrauded investor teek : " I am pretty sure even Nefario gave him the nod a few times in posts."
mircea_popescu: you read this Ignatius-otc ?
Ignatius-otc: yeah, Im reading it all. Don't get me wrong mp I am open minded and willing to put aside ego.
Wolf_L: I got banned from btcst for the 12th time lol
mircea_popescu: so. there's no complete and definitive proof. thinking about it i can actually see the angle for incompetence possibly prevail over the actual malfeasance angle.
Ignatius-otc: However, same thread, if you look at what GLBSE reps, i.e. nefario, actually says...it's all the same old moderator babysitting stuff. Nothing dishonest that I have seen yet.
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc most of those posts were deleted however.
Ignatius-otc: that I would believe mp
Ignatius-otc: seem to still have the vanishing post problem even today
mircea_popescu: now, a simple point of fact : nobody can create shares on mpex. this offers the investor some guarantees against dillution, at least.
BTC-Mining: Same for GLBSE if there's a requirement to issue shares.
Ignatius-otc: may that manipulate the price of their own asset freely on the market? if so, it completely negates the benefit of no dilution
mircea_popescu: mpex contracts are actually signed, this guarantees their integrity, and offers the investor some further safety.
BTC-Mining: Most voting assets will have 51% required to issue new bonds
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc what do you mean ?
BTC-Mining: Fixed rate bond will have 0% required to issue more
Ignatius-otc: instead of doubling shares outstanding, half share value
Ignatius-otc: same overall goals can be accomplished
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc i don't get it. he's selling his own shares cheap. how is this dillution ?
mircea_popescu: i don't follow this logic.
Ignatius-otc: no no, sorry
Ignatius-otc: I am referencing only your comment about mpex doesnt allow issuing new shares as easily as glbse
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining im not even sure what's the meaning of having a voting system.
Ignatius-otc: if an mpex asset issuer can manipulate the price of his own asset,then the protection is lost
mircea_popescu: look at how diablo messed up his contract/early investors in based on that.
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc explain this manipulation.
BTC-Mining: Diablo just exchange his IPOing shares for ever changing rates with other shares.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining fact remains if you put in a 1 btcf in his ipo you are now screwed.
BTC-Mining: Effectively, if he offers more shares for other asset's shares, he devalued all his shares
mircea_popescu: which sort-of negates the benefit of putting another btc in giga's ipo and having made 20%
BTC-Mining: Indeed, where are you coming at with that?
mircea_popescu: i'm coming at the fact that the issuer needs to be trusted to not dillute on glbse.
BTC-Mining: The issuer can dilute his own asset, not other assets
mircea_popescu: ...
Ignatius-otc: the market price of low liquidity assets can be manipulated by simply buying out asks and filling bids sufficiently to where ones own orders are all that remain. if the issuer did this instead of dilution i believe he could continually "flip" the shares in a way similar to if he had just kept printing shares with a plummeting share price
Ignatius-otc: but im no expert, if you say its impossible to dilute in any way ill believe ya;)
BTC-Mining: You're assuming it's a net loss overall like everyone put 1 BTC in both assets...
BTC-Mining: which is not true...
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc let's run a scenario. i own 90% of the float, share trades at 10. now i do what, sell 5% of the float, share goes to 5 ?
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining im just saying you have no rational way to pick. and one flower that made 20% is scarce compensation for all the duds.
mircea_popescu: read a little the forum, the people are quite frustrated.
mircea_popescu: there's very good reasons why pretty much everyone switched ship this month, you see ?
BTC-Mining: I went, over the past month, from a 1200 portfolio value to a 1500 portfolio value, on GLBSE...
BTC-Mining: There's ways to pick good stocks from the bad ones
Ignatius-otc: sell shares, drop price, buyback panic sell, repeat. you never diluted in a traditional sense, but the result would be a fleecing of investors and a chart with a similar appearance...always trending down. So mp you are saying no mpex asset has ever defaulted? wow
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00012189 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc i am saying that, yes. so far none has.
mircea_popescu: this theory about force price down etc is (possibly) what pirate thought he might accomplish
Ignatius-otc: how long has mpex been active
mircea_popescu: things don't work out that way. this particular attack would made everyone rich irl if it really worked.
BTC-Mining: MPEX has almost no assets, it's an options trading. As for assets, there's S.DICE, Mpex itself, giga.etf and I think brendio's funds?
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc opened in march
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00012189 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining the total market value of mpex listed assets is > 10x total mkt value of glbse listed assets.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00012189 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: just because they're better they will necessarily be fewer.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00012189 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: That's exactly why there was no default, the market allows only few companies
mircea_popescu: well ofcourse.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00012189 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i always said, i'd rather not list anything at all than list dubious offerings.
BTC-Mining: What do you not understand in the fact GLBSE is a open market where anyone can issue?
mircea_popescu: i understand it, i also think it's beyond stupid.
BTC-Mining: Well bitcoin is technically an open, unregulated currency too...
mircea_popescu: no, it is not.
mircea_popescu: it's not a currency where anyone can make a bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is the paragon of closeness, hence it's value.
BTC-Mining: Not unregulated in that sense god dammit
mircea_popescu: closedness
Ignatius-otc: mp if you can please elaborate on why you said "things don't work out that way. this particular attack would made everyone rich irl if it really worked.". this attack does work at times, i have seen penny stock scams use it
BTC-Mining: Unregulated as no one decides of what is and is not appropriate in transactions
mircea_popescu: well that's the exact sense in which glbse is unregulated : anyone can make a stock and anyone can then dillute it to hell
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc you mean a pump and dump ?
BTC-Mining: and people were trying to do a P2P stock exchange, unregulated too of course
BTC-Mining: "anyone can make a stock and anyone can then dillute it to hell"
BTC-Mining: Which doesn't mean it's all bad stocks
Ignatius-otc: no, I mean I ahve witnessed 2 types of penny stock scams. One, where they dilute by continually printing enw shares and selling off until the price per share is some small fraction of a cent. then, they restructure and repeat the process. another type, doesn't dilute by printing shares, but by the method i have tried to desciribe to you.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining it just means there's no rational way of pickingthem.
Ignatius-otc: both were highly successful so I wondered why you called the one method unsuccessful
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc i might be either thick skulled or missing something here.
BTC-Mining: of course there fucking is a way to pick them up, you can just look up the issuer
BTC-Mining: Gigamining being an easy example
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining nd diablo ?
mircea_popescu: burt anyway, let's see this thing. company has 1mn shares, i own 90mn of them, it trades at 10 currently.
mircea_popescu: now, i dump 10mn of my shares, price goes all the way to 5
BTC-Mining: Diablo had lots of telltale signs that it was nonsense
mircea_popescu: i rebuy 10 million of my shares, price goes all the way to 9.
mircea_popescu: i got 70mn for the shares i sold, i bought them back for 60 mn, hence 10 mhn profit, is this the system Ignatius-otc ?
BTC-Mining: The first being that he needed a 1 million BTC IPO
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 5 @ 0.00911 = 0.0456 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining so you earnestly believe you can pick them. more power to you. in my experience neither timers nor pickers make money irl, but you're welcome to it.
BTC-Mining: then that he started to trade assets for shares
Ignatius-otc: roughly yes. I was merely trying to say prohibiting the printing of shares does not mean an issuer can not dilute.
BTC-Mining: I have yet to make a loss on any GLBSE asset
Ignatius-otc: aside from pirate debt my bot picked up for cheap, same here BTC-Mining
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc but looky : my position to begin with : 900mn worth of shares. my position to end with : 60mn in cash and 810 mn worth of shares
mircea_popescu: i have... lost...money.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining i believe you.
mircea_popescu: i'm not saying it can't happen. im just talking statistics.
Ignatius-otc: that is ebcause you demand the price is taken to arbitrary points. in some markets the price is whatever you set it to be
BTC-Mining: I stay informed on the issuers and latest development, I buy when there's an opportunity, sell back before it's too late.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6100 @ 0.00080907 = 4.9353 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining it might be the case that the cost of your research in terms of skill*time exceeds your profits by a significant margin.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2999 @ 0.00039203 = 1.1757 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 2 @ 0.00905 = 0.0181 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc but you would have to set it to be something.
BTC-Mining: I could hardly do as much on MPEX which only IPOs high rated companies like SatoshiDice. The price seems too stable.
BTC-Mining: Plus dividends are much lower
mircea_popescu: well obviously the higher the volumes the stabler the prices.
mircea_popescu: this seems to me a d'uh.
BTC-Mining: Indeed.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 36 @ 0.009 = 0.324 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: tho for instance if you made money on the recent giga move downwards on glbse
mircea_popescu: o wait, you can't short on glbse
mircea_popescu: heh. so, if you had a margined acct and shorted ON MPEX you could have made a lot more there.
BTC-Mining: Indeed
BTC-Mining: shorting, options, etc.
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.4101 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: shorting and options aren't the same thing.
BTC-Mining: Going to be implemented on GLBSE
mircea_popescu: are you talking about the future again ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1048899 = 0.5244 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: that's why I put them in a list... because they're not the same
assbot: [GLBSE] [PLATINUM] 3 @ 0.0090501 = 0.0272 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: mk. so at some later point in the future you shall have profited by the drop last week.
BTC-Mining: No, but it will become a possibility
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: you know what the cost of opportunity is , right ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 1 @ 0.122 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: nay, I do not know anything about terms
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 116 @ 0.0002125 = 0.0247 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 10 @ 0.0935 = 0.935 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 11 @ 0.0935 = 1.0285 BTC [+]
Ignatius-otc: You have 20 shares. You sell 10 shares for 1 BTC each. "bad news" hits, and now you offer your remaining 10 shares at 0.5BTC. You buyback shares from paic sellers for a 25-75% discount. Took in 10 BTC from the original sale of 10 shares, used less than 10 BTC to buy back those 10 shares when a panic sell occured. Repeat the process...our price is at 0.5 BTC now, sell 10 shares for 0.5 BTC. "bad news", your remaining 10 shares are
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 18 @ 0.0095 = 0.171 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.4053 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 24 @ 0.08 = 1.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JTME] 12 @ 0.9448 = 11.3376 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 5 @ 0.088 = 0.44 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JTME] 4 @ 0.9448 = 3.7792 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 3 @ 0.071 = 0.213 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PIMP] 2 @ 0.153 = 0.306 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc this would require you actually releasing false information or somesuch ? sort of like an insider trading job ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 6 @ 0.009022 = 0.0541 BTC [-]
Ignatius-otc: yes, that is how I have seen it done in the penny stock world. it's dilution really...but without printing more shares
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 14 @ 0.1048899 = 1.4685 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.104989 = 0.5249 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: yeah well, a. i haven't seen it happen and b. i don't see i'd stand for it.
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.0622 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104989 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 1 @ 0.0035 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: moreover, the fact that the owner retains a majority of shares seems to make this plan a losing proposition.
mircea_popescu: (contracts are written so the owner can never sell more than half is shares, i dunno if you read them)
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104989 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 12 @ 0.104989 = 1.2599 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BLUECHIP] 11 @ 0.1 = 1.1 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.09299999 = 0.186 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 5 @ 0.5699 = 2.8495 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.06 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.115 = 0.23 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.11748 = 0.9398 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.83 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00039068 = 7.1104 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57200 @ 0.00039046 = 22.3343 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58000 @ 0.00039018 = 22.6304 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40635 @ 0.00038978 = 15.8387 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51728 @ 0.00038815 = 20.0782 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00038723 = 0.9487 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00038705 = 13.3532 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18289 @ 0.00038633 = 7.0656 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00038544 = 6.5525 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00038524 = 1.5795 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11084 @ 0.00038454 = 4.2622 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36814 @ 0.0003834 = 14.1145 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 200 @ 1 = 200 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 16000 @ 0.0034 = 54.4 BTC [+]
Ignatius-otc: Hi brendio
brendio: hi
Ignatius-otc: If you end up needing anything from me as a bond holder let me know. I'm not sure what information is being requested by pirate.
Diablo-D3: slow glbse is slow
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 450 @ 0.00348611 = 1.5687 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 50 @ 0.00344763 = 0.1724 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40128 @ 0.00038485 = 15.4433 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8318 @ 0.00080907 = 6.7298 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.251, Best ask: 10.3, Bid-ask spread: 0.04900, Last trade: 10.3, 24 hour volume: 38288, 24 hour low: 10.2, 24 hour high: 10.8785
mircea_popescu: o hey, going down are we.
kakobrekla: uhuh
mircea_popescu: still very low volume tho
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.8499 = 4.2495 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.85 = 8.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.867899 = 5.2074 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.868 = 8.68 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 4 @ 0.46 = 1.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 9 @ 0.4695 = 4.2255 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 9 @ 0.4695 = 4.2255 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 83 @ 0.1176 = 9.7608 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.104988 = 0.21 BTC [-]
gribble: Best bid: 10.26, Best ask: 10.3, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 10.3, 24 hour volume: 38723, 24 hour low: 10.2, 24 hour high: 10.87699
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.6596 = 3.9576 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 10 @ 0.27573 = 2.7573 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNE5C0X7Fzs << for adults only.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.21 = 1.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 146 @ 0.104988 = 15.3282 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 139 @ 0.104989 = 14.5935 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.22 = 1.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.23 = 1.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.24 = 1.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.25 = 1.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.26 = 1.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.27 = 1.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.28 = 1.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.29 = 1.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.3 = 1.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 45 @ 0.3 = 13.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 336 @ 0.31 = 104.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 8 @ 0.829999 = 6.64 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: If anyone want to sell BDK, I am buying then for 0.12 each :)
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.336105 = 6.7221 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49097 @ 0.00039101 = 19.1974 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13103 @ 0.0003912 = 5.1259 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 13 @ 0.08999 = 1.1699 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.092 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.11706598 = 1.9901 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.868 = 8.68 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30197 @ 0.0003912 = 11.8131 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00039164 = 12.18 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 703 @ 0.00039189 = 0.2755 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.06 = 0.18 BTC [+]
EB250: !pl BDK 1
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: BDK [1@1BTC] paid: 0.0095545 BTC. Last price: 0.1 BTC. Capital gain: -0.9 BTC. Total: -0.8904455 BTC. (-89%)
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00339999 = 0.017 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.40016, Best ask: 10.45, Bid-ask spread: 0.04984, Last trade: 10.45, 24 hour volume: 39452, 24 hour low: 10.2, 24 hour high: 10.87563
mircea_popescu: bdk actually started at 1 ?!
mircea_popescu: nah, seems .1
EB250: !pl BDK 0.055
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: BDK [1@0.055BTC] paid: 0.0095545 BTC. Last price: 0.1 BTC. Capital gain: 0.045 BTC. Total: 0.0545545 BTC. (99.2%)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00039189 = 4.3108 BTC [+]
EB250: !pl BDK 0.1
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: BDK [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.0095545 BTC. Last price: 0.1 BTC. Capital gain: 0 BTC. Total: 0.0095545 BTC. (9.6%)
Chaang-Noi: anyone want to sell discounted pirate debt?
EB250: No, I am buying
Chaang-Noi: lol really?
Chaang-Noi: i guess someone has to be:)
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 8 @ 0.09 = 0.72 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.104988 = 0.21 BTC [-]
blazing: chaang-noi why would you want to buy pirate debt...i thought pirate is done
EB250: no, I got few at 0.9 or close but this is just play money.
EB250: blazing: where did you get that idea?
blazing: eb250 im confused
EB250: 9th is the grand finale. Or is it today?
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 1 @ 0.14000001 BTC [-]
blazing: did pirate make an announcement today?
blazing: ohok the 9th
EB250: no idea, I can not get in to the channel
blazing: so we wait till the 9th
EB250: did he paid 20 accounts or so?
EB250: 400+ to go?
mircea_popescu: ><
mircea_popescu: ;;ident EB250
gribble: Nick 'EB250', with hostmask 'EB250!~EB250@users.smartlink.ee', is not identified.
mircea_popescu: are you new EB250 ?
EB250: yes
Chaang-Noi: blazing buy low sell high
mircea_popescu: a ok. so how do you like btc so far ?
blazing: i have six tygrrbond-p bond for sale...sell at .8
blazing: each
mircea_popescu: blazing isn't it trading .1 / .3 ?
EB250: OK, time to go
blazing: ohok
blazing: well i might hold onto it then
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 60 @ 0.14 = 8.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FDBF] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: hi brendio
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 10 @ 0.1 = 1 BTC [+]
brendio: hi goat
Chaang-Noi: cambodia now?
Chaang-Noi: or kl?
brendio: siem reap
Chaang-Noi: awesome
Chaang-Noi: thats not a bad town for a few nights
Chaang-Noi: my wife loves it
Chaang-Noi: your first time?
Chaang-Noi: going to see angkor wat i assume?
brendio: third time. Might see angkor war, might not. Already been twice :)
Chaang-Noi: why go then?
Chaang-Noi: night live is okay, but i doubt worth flying to, lol
brendio: visiting a friend
Chaang-Noi: http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j343/TyGrrTech/f58b08402757.jpg
Chaang-Noi: cool
Chaang-Noi: its a nice place to visit
Diablo-D3: wat
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 8 @ 0.35 = 2.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.8306 = 4.9836 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: brendio i assume you will not pass anything to pirate about bond ownership?
brendio: only net knows who owns the bonds
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.825 = 1.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 39 @ 0.35 = 13.65 BTC [+]
brendio: *nef
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 47 @ 0.35 = 16.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 55 @ 0.35 = 19.25 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: yeah
Chaang-Noi: nef said he wont pass it on
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIT.INC] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104988 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.4 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TICKER] 50 @ 0.46 = 23 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00039032 = 5.0742 BTC [-]
MrTiggr: OMFG - imsaguy is the assbot right now
MrTiggr: Chaang-Noi: http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/GoatsOnABoat << in case imsaslapper duznt let me back in
Chaang-Noi: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105018.0
MrTiggr: YAAAY :D
MrTiggr: ty
Chaang-Noi: :)
Chaang-Noi: thank you sir!
MrTiggr: np!
MrTiggr: WTF imsaguy
MrTiggr: i wonder if he ims a guy at all somedays - on his period atm
Chaang-Noi: oh
Chaang-Noi: i asked wtf
Chaang-Noi: they said "bot abuse"
MrTiggr: ?
Chaang-Noi: i dont think it was him
MrTiggr: keh
Chaang-Noi: <Chaang-Noi> lol why was he kicked?
Chaang-Noi: <fbastage> because there was no domain.
Chaang-Noi: <VelvetLeaf> Bot-Abuse
MrTiggr: ?
Chaang-Noi: i dont know
MrTiggr: that makes no sense
MrTiggr: my bots are regged as me
MrTiggr: as freenode requires
MrTiggr: and if they arent
MrTiggr: why kick the herder
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 4 @ 0.85 = 3.4 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: you tried to make a bot do someting
MrTiggr: /me slaps imsa
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00039032 = 0.7026 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19573 @ 0.00038917 = 7.6172 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: i dont know
MrTiggr: meh
Chaang-Noi: lots of spam and shit going on
MrTiggr: yeh, im sure he has his panties wound pretty tight
MrTiggr: the daftest of things is that i have 2 bots in there - i can still see whats going on ... cud talk if i wanted ... lamehat imsa is defz stressed ryt now
mircea_popescu: so 7.6 earthquake in the phillipines and heliben is dropping another QE bomb.
MrTiggr: maaan :(
MrTiggr: not cool
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 100 @ 0.12999 = 12.999 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 14 @ 0.1349 = 1.8886 BTC [+]
MrTiggr: 7.6
MrTiggr: fuqme
assbot: [GLBSE] [ADMINSORTED] 1 @ 0.99999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ADMINSORTED] 6 @ 1 = 6 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: apparently tsunami and all
kakobrekla: yay
kakobrekla: im opening bitcoin to metatrader bridge
mircea_popescu: now that's pretty cool
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 1000 @ 0.003 = 3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 1000 @ 0.0029 = 2.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 1000 @ 0.0028 = 2.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 1000 @ 0.0027 = 2.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 1000 @ 0.0026 = 2.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 1000 @ 0.0025 = 2.5 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ye
kakobrekla: you can already apply for an account
kakobrekla: and get it next week
kakobrekla: 100btc min
kakobrekla: trade any pair with btc and earn btc
mircea_popescu: ahaha
mircea_popescu: wait, there's a minimum ?
mircea_popescu: THIS IS A VERY FAILED PLATFORM
kakobrekla: to open an account
mircea_popescu: i bet it runs porn.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla what happens if the us govt confiscates their website ???
kakobrekla: with 100btc you can trade 0.1 lot
kakobrekla: i will be holding bitcoins and will never be transformed into fiat
mircea_popescu: i don't care what you say *hands in ears* lalalalala. as long as it costs money to join IT SUCKS!!!
kakobrekla: it doesnt cost money
kakobrekla: you need a 100btc balance to be able to trade
kakobrekla: or to open an account
kakobrekla: >as long as it costs money to join IT SUCKS!!!
mircea_popescu: i bet it has no volume.
kakobrekla: says the guy with 20btc reg fee :)
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 999 @ 0.0008636 = 0.8627 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15401 @ 0.00086077 = 13.2567 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: who has no volume?
mircea_popescu: (you realise i'm just poking fun are you ?)
kakobrekla: ah
kakobrekla: sarcasm?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 275 @ 0.00358902 = 0.987 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 165 @ 0.00344763 = 0.5689 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: oh well
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 150 @ 0.00344762 = 0.5171 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 31 @ 0.00341296 = 0.1058 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 301 @ 0.00341245 = 1.0271 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 78 @ 0.003379 = 0.2636 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: :p
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.10100002 = 3.03 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 1000 @ 0.0033 = 3.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 53 @ 0.10100001 = 5.353 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 27 @ 0.0098 = 0.2646 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 20 @ 1.04 = 20.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 9 @ 1.04 = 9.36 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20597 @ 0.00039189 = 8.0718 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17395 @ 0.00039203 = 6.8194 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 599 @ 0.00038917 = 0.2331 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15985 @ 0.00038911 = 6.2199 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: !pl FOO.PPPPT 1 2012-08-01
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: FOO.PPPPT [1@1BTC] (since: 2012-08-01) paid: 0.14 BTC. Last price: 0.4 BTC. Capital gain: -0.6 BTC. Total: -0.46 BTC. (-46%)
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4900 @ 0.0008643 = 4.2351 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.8689 = 5.2134 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINTORRENTZ] 4 @ 0.69 = 2.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINTORRENTZ] 1 @ 0.749 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINTORRENTZ] 4 @ 0.749 = 2.996 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 9 @ 0.869 = 7.821 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 8 @ 0.869999 = 6.96 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.87 = 2.61 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 10 @ 0.9486 = 9.486 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN] 26 @ 1 = 26 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 10 @ 0.386 = 3.86 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.4694 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 9 @ 0.4695 = 4.2255 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 25 @ 0.595 = 14.875 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 10 @ 1.01 = 10.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.84 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.8311 = 4.9866 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.831 = 2.493 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.8305 = 8.305 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN] 1 @ 1.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15878 @ 0.0008643 = 13.7234 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7773 @ 0.00086873 = 6.7526 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 14600 @ 0.00086894 = 12.6865 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11749 @ 0.00087462 = 10.2759 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 50 @ 0.2 = 10 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.092 = 0.276 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1478 @ 0.00038911 = 0.5751 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14535 @ 0.00038867 = 5.6493 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18397 @ 0.00038813 = 7.1404 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 3000 @ 0.0025 = 7.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 1000 @ 0.0024 = 2.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 1000 @ 0.0023 = 2.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 1000 @ 0.0022 = 2.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 1000 @ 0.0021 = 2.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 848 @ 0.002 = 1.696 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 20 @ 0.00338817 = 0.0678 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 980 @ 0.00338234 = 3.3147 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: hum rg, seems you're under attack.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PGM] 4 @ 0.24999 = 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PGM] 4 @ 0.25 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.092 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00038813 = 2.4452 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6100 @ 0.00087462 = 5.3352 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00039182 = 0.6269 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00039203 = 1.4897 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 300 @ 0.00012189 = 0.0366 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 12 @ 0.00012189 = 0.0015 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 110 @ 0.00012189 = 0.0134 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1995 @ 0.00339999 = 6.783 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 3005 @ 0.0034 = 10.217 BTC [+]
usagi: <assbot> [GLBSE] [NYAN] 1 @ 1.01 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.24, Best ask: 10.32, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 10.328, 24 hour volume: 36001, 24 hour low: 10.2, 24 hour high: 10.84
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 50 @ 0.175 = 8.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29900 @ 0.00038894 = 11.6293 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6203 @ 0.00038813 = 2.4076 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2697 @ 0.000388 = 1.0464 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 9 @ 0.39 = 3.51 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 3 @ 0.09 = 0.27 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 2 @ 0.1785 = 0.357 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 4 @ 0.98 = 3.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 43 @ 0.4695 = 20.1885 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 38 @ 0.18000101 = 6.84 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.39 = 1.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 20 @ 0.4 = 8 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2851 @ 0.00087462 = 2.4935 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5249 @ 0.00087607 = 4.5985 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.8103 = 3.2412 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.8102 = 4.051 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.810101 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.79 = 1.58 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.78000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 9 @ 0.78 = 7.02 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.77700001 = 3.885 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.777 = 7.77 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 9 @ 0.711 = 6.399 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.71 = 2.84 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 19 @ 0.4 = 7.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104988 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 1 @ 0.94924 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 2 @ 0.99 = 1.98 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.09199999 = 0.184 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.092 = 0.184 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P010T] 13 @ 0.02859399 = 0.3717 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P010T] 9 @ 0.01976642 = 0.1779 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 1 @ 0.79 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130N] 1 @ 0.11221286 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P030T] 6 @ 0.02245236 = 0.1347 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 30 @ 0.0148 = 0.444 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104987 BTC [-]
_locust_: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.01, Best ask: 10.0989, Bid-ask spread: 0.08890, Last trade: 10.098, 24 hour volume: 47471, 24 hour low: 10, 24 hour high: 10.8359
assbot: [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 3 @ 1.399999 = 4.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110N] 2 @ 0.17408847 = 0.3482 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 8 @ 0.9486 = 7.5888 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 1 @ 0.7701 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 200 @ 0.00024 = 0.048 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 12 @ 0.18000101 = 2.16 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 60 @ 0.180001 = 10.8001 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: so hm
kakobrekla: getting a lot of change the name for smpake
kakobrekla: any suggestions?
kakobrekla: like instabit? it has 'stab it' in it.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.830701 = 4.9842 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.830601 = 8.306 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.8305 = 8.305 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.8301 = 4.1505 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.82 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 9 @ 0.811 = 7.299 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 12 @ 0.81 = 9.72 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 14 @ 0.81 = 11.34 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 80 @ 0.81 = 64.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110N] 6 @ 0.1731108 = 1.0387 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: meh
kakobrekla: thats taken anyway
Obsi: kakobrekla: any plans to offer USD MtGox voucher?
kakobrekla: well i have been asked about supporting usd input
kakobrekla: accually i am willing to implement whatever the users need
kakobrekla: but im not sure if they know they need it
kakobrekla: seems like no to me :>
Obsi: BTC -> MtGox USD code would be quite useful when touching withdrawal limits
kakobrekla: the fee on that would have to be high
kakobrekla: or result unpredictable
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 12 @ 0.104987 = 1.2598 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7699 @ 0.00086077 = 6.6271 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 500 @ 0.00085762 = 0.4288 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 99100 @ 0.0033 = 327.03 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 79 @ 0.104987 = 8.294 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: 02:17 gribble | pirateat40 was last seen in #btcst 28 minutes and 10 seconds ago: <pirateat40> Total Accounts Repaid: 22/459 (subject to required information)
Obsi: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 9.80011, Best ask: 9.81, Bid-ask spread: 0.00989, Last trade: 9.81, 24 hour volume: 50748, 24 hour low: 9.8, 24 hour high: 10.83571
BTC-Mining: Any actual, real claim of accounts being repaid?
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 53 @ 0.089999 = 4.7699 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.48000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10024 @ 0.00084927 = 8.5131 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.71121 = 1.4224 BTC [-]
smickles: ;;later tell doffx http://bitbin.it/lOgacEil
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00039142 = 8.2198 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39613 @ 0.00039203 = 15.5295 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 44 @ 0.5 = 22 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 7 @ 0.77001 = 5.3901 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 4 @ 0.77011 = 3.0804 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1081 @ 0.00039269 = 0.4245 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35400 @ 0.00039102 = 13.8421 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 0.20000001 = 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [-]
pigeons: hey mircea_popescu, do you have a link about why mining bonds suck?
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.11399999 = 1.14 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.114 = 2.85 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.1140699 = 5.1331 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1140699 = 0.5703 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.11416999 = 2.2834 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 31 @ 0.11417 = 3.5393 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 5 @ 0.092 = 0.46 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.1030102 = 0.9271 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.1030101 = 0.309 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.10301 = 0.5151 BTC [-]