tmsr - Log 2012-08-30

gribble: Best bid: 10.76642, Best ask: 10.897, Bid-ask spread: 0.13058, Last trade: 10.897, 24 hour volume: 54516, 24 hour low: 10.55, 24 hour high: 11.134

assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2089 @ 0.00096924 = 2.0247 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1693 @ 0.0009696 = 1.6415 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00339 = 0.1017 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 12 @ 0.10449 = 1.2539 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 18 @ 0.9999999 = 18 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: bitfoo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35775.msg587428#msg587428 remember bakc in the day ? :D

assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 15 @ 1.19739576 = 17.9609 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [JTME] 2 @ 0.944 = 1.888 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [TCC] 1 @ 0.0001 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [JTME] 2 @ 0.9448 = 1.8896 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINRS] 1 @ 0.050999 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10449 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.10449 = 0.209 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.10449 = 0.6269 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK] 39 @ 0.1 = 3.9 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: http://oglaf.com/media/comic/overbite.jpg ahaha o god this is too funny

BTC-Mining: This comic website seems more pervert than funny or anything else...

assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 50 @ 0.58999 = 29.4995 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: well... de gustibus as they say

BTC-Mining: I personally recommend cyanide & happiness

assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 50 @ 0.58999 = 29.4995 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: i dun really liek them

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00039125 = 1.3694 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10449 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 9 @ 0.01 = 0.09 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.8002 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.80002 = 4.0001 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.8 = 4 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.78101 = 1.562 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 9 @ 0.781 = 7.029 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 16 @ 0.78 = 12.48 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 3000 @ 0.01 = 30 BTC

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10449 BTC [+]

BTCHero: seriously .78

BTCHero: I've made a huge mistake

assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00339 = 0.017 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: im not entirely usre that's warranted.

mircea_popescu: yes, the guy was in pirate. nevertheless, he has farms and stuff.

mircea_popescu: !ticker f.giga.etf

assbot: [MPEX:F.GIGA.ETF] 1day: 0.00064789 / 0.00085908 / 0.0009696 (405931 shares, 348.73 BTC), 30day: 0.00064789 / 0.00099327 / 0.00115139 (7468422 shares, 7,418.20 BTC)

mircea_popescu: whoa 64 ?!

mircea_popescu: jesus.

mircea_popescu: maybe there's more to this than i know.

BTCHero: him and pirate are buddies, but how/why does this affect the price of the share

mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi "LIF.CX to me seemed like a ponzi, esp after I asked him about it. What I am wondering however is why did it go bad so soon? Even if this was designed to fail it should have lasted longer than this." remember that quote ?

BTCHero: I mean it is one of the few that are going to be worth something when/if asic hits right?

mircea_popescu: im pretty sure asic is next year's crop.

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.10449 = 5.2245 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: i think maybe he's just gettying hit by a general flood of people from the sinking ship.

BTCHero: god damn gigavps making friends with the devil

mircea_popescu: people overvalue the surface of things these days

mircea_popescu: some douche talks nice to them, flatters them a little, wham, best of friends.

mircea_popescu: i blame the school system.

assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.54 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30600 @ 0.00039125 = 11.9723 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00039225 = 1.0591 BTC [+]

dub: copumpkin had a lobotomy?

copumpkin: yup

dub: reversable apparently

mircea_popescu: who's honestbob anyway

dub: a seriously retarded forum user

mircea_popescu: o

mircea_popescu: speaking of forum users, someone should drag that loupgaroux character on irc

mircea_popescu: i think i'd pay for this.

dub: please don't

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12876 @ 0.00096573 = 12.4347 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3350 @ 0.00095909 = 3.213 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: why not ?

dub: he is a bag of dicks?

mircea_popescu: well who's a bag of vulvas ?

assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 7 @ 0.8749 = 6.1243 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.8749 = 3.4996 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.875 = 3.5 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.095 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 19 @ 0.0953 = 1.8107 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 85 @ 0.00339 = 0.2882 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.ABMO] 3 @ 0.07999999 = 0.24 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.8689 = 4.3445 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12600 @ 0.00095909 = 12.0845 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.869 = 8.69 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 550 @ 0.00095909 = 0.5275 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 388 @ 0.00095695 = 0.3713 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 29 @ 0.10449 = 3.0302 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 15 @ 0.1045 = 1.5675 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 56 @ 0.10485 = 5.8716 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 9 @ 0.9999999 = 9 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.1247 = 1.8705 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00039096 = 10.4386 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20108 @ 0.00039086 = 7.8594 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 292 @ 0.00039074 = 0.1141 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1600 @ 0.00093699 = 1.4992 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1429 @ 0.00092435 = 1.3209 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3100 @ 0.00089278 = 2.7676 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 1 @ 0.07 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22032.0 reading this is so very amusing

mircea_popescu: i heartily recomend.

assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.1247 = 1.8705 BTC [-]

toffoo: mircea: been meaning to congratulate you, you were way ahead of the game on the pirate fiasco

toffoo: was your credit derivative the first major bet against pirate?

toffoo: I hope you didn't lose too much on that

toffoo: did you eventually make something back on his eventual (apparent) collapse?

mircea_popescu: toffoo actually i didn't lose anything, is the thing.

mircea_popescu: the way it played out, i sold the stuff, then the people with the passthroughs misstepped (i don't recall, i think announced 2k and issued 1k or something)

mircea_popescu: and so a major invested paniced and sold into my bid. i cleared ~1k

mircea_popescu: but at any rate, i just wish more people sat for a moment and thought things through.

mircea_popescu: lol coingenuity

toffoo: nice. always better to be lucky than smart is what I say ;)

mircea_popescu: i totally got lucky, is true.

mircea_popescu: after that... well... nobody wanted to touch it anymore really, volume was tiny.

toffoo: I remember considering buying some at the time,

toffoo: but some seemingly smart and well connected people around here were betting against you,

mircea_popescu: the true killer was that some people brought forth not really proof... but some indication of possible collusion. it became clear it's impossible to actually verify a default.

toffoo: with the argument that pirate would probably collapse "some day" .. but not "yet"

mircea_popescu: fact of the matter is, the guy who finally burst it weeks ago is not the first person who didn't get paid.

mircea_popescu: is just the first person who didn't swallow it.

mircea_popescu: toffoo were you invested btw ?

toffoo: I'm started to get pretty proud of myself ...

toffoo: so far, I've managed to swerve MyBitcoin, Bitcoinica, AND pirate

mircea_popescu: o wow.

mircea_popescu: im not sure there's five of us.

toffoo: haven't lost a bitcent to any

mircea_popescu: of course, i wasn't around during mybitcoin.

toffoo: I did lose 10 BTC to bitscalper though

mircea_popescu: i wasn't in that either.

mircea_popescu: hm. when was mybitcoin fiasco ? march 2011 ?

toffoo: no, I think you were around .. it wasn't that long ago

mircea_popescu: o you're right, it was august

mircea_popescu: like a year ago. jeez it seems like forever.

toffoo: actually, I did briefly try mybitcoin and bitcoinica … but I guess it was lucky I didn't stick around too long

mircea_popescu: well.. anyway, here's to hoping people are smarting but a lot smarter.

mircea_popescu: "Bitcoin is a new web-technology that enables people"

mircea_popescu: why do people confuse the web with the internet ?

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32735 @ 0.00039225 = 12.8403 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22965 @ 0.00039399 = 9.048 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 16200 @ 0.00084201 = 13.6406 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 19300 @ 0.00083588 = 16.1325 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1500 @ 0.00078132 = 1.172 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.10484 = 0.3145 BTC [-]

Azelphur: mircea_popescu: because one is a description of the other

assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 4400 @ 0.0010088 = 4.4387 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 9000 @ 0.00101 = 9.09 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 100000 @ 0.0010105 = 101.05 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: sorta like saying you're going to town in your boat

mircea_popescu: you mean car, but hey, they're means of transportation so it's ok

assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 7292 @ 0.001015 = 7.4014 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 20000 @ 0.0010155 = 20.31 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 50000 @ 0.00101575 = 50.7875 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 9607 @ 0.001045 = 10.0393 BTC [+]

Azelphur: mircea_popescu: analogy = auto fail

assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 5800 @ 0.00105 = 6.09 BTC [+]

Azelphur: also bad analogy

mircea_popescu: why ? internet carries the web, it's the superset there.

Azelphur: what do you think the web is?

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44408 @ 0.00039074 = 17.352 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19263 @ 0.00039013 = 7.5151 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: it's not a matter of what i think. the web is the sum of all html documents and their connections (ie links).

mircea_popescu: it's implemented on the internet, sure, but that's irrelevant really.

Azelphur: I don't think that's correct at all (what does a web have to do with html documents)

mircea_popescu: thats what the web is lol.

Azelphur: the internet is laid out like a web, which is why the two terms are used synonymously

Azelphur: and web pages are web pages, they are not "the web"

mircea_popescu: well this'd happen to be a barbarism.

mircea_popescu: "The World Wide Web (abbreviated as WWW or W3, commonly known as the Web ), is a system of interlinked hypertext documents accessed via the Internet."

mircea_popescu: the final part is just typical wikipedia crud.

Azelphur: guess wikipedia has the final word :p

mircea_popescu: the web couild exist offline or whatever, it doesn't HAVE to be accessed through teh internet.

mircea_popescu: but anyway.

Azelphur: yea, your right

Azelphur: spose I answered your question anyway though, haha

mircea_popescu: :p

mircea_popescu: "today i learned..."

Azelphur: indeed

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2693 @ 0.00039399 = 1.061 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16322 @ 0.00039401 = 6.431 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00039414 = 1.813 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 286 @ 0.00039443 = 0.1128 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36099 @ 0.000395 = 14.2591 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: yes pls buy moar shares because i know what teh web is! ty internets!

mircea_popescu: o wow! i just went to register #mpex and i discovered... it was already registered

mircea_popescu: by me. in april. totally forgot doing it.

assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.8699 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 8 @ 0.15185 = 1.2148 BTC [+]

Chaang-Noi: you should really move over there, would help us all out thanks

mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi i'm not the one you should be butthurt at.

Chaang-Noi: butthurt? not at all, ignoring your spam is not that much of a bother

mircea_popescu: eh go sell some pirate bonds why don't ya.

assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 4 @ 0.178 = 0.712 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 56 @ 0.1785 = 9.996 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 3 @ 0.1785 = 0.5355 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18464 @ 0.00038848 = 7.1729 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00038832 = 11.9214 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3536 @ 0.00038831 = 1.3731 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 3 @ 0.1261 = 0.3783 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 4 @ 0.014 = 0.056 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.0034 = 9.86 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 300 @ 0.00089379 = 0.2681 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: As part of the global push to tax the rich, Britain is now debating an “emergency” wealth tax. But the idea has hit fierce opposition from conservatives, who say the “politics of envy” hasn’t made the country rich.

mircea_popescu: o hey. any brits wanna buy bitcoins ?

mircea_popescu: you can't tax "the rich" here.

kakobrekla: yes, this isnt microcash

kakobrekla: or whatever.

kakobrekla: ;>

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26900 @ 0.0003907 = 10.5098 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: bitcoin is megacash! RAWR!

assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1070 @ 0.00339 = 3.6273 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 4470 @ 0.0034 = 15.198 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15218 @ 0.0003907 = 5.9457 BTC [+]

smickles: lol

smickles: reading the log, i feel like i read "bullshit, there arn't bitcoin asset brokers. Name 3" <community then names 3 easily

rg: yeah

rg: i only had brendio on the top of my head

rg: and was definitely too lazy to google fro the other

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1019002 = 1.019 BTC [-]

smickles: I haven't advertised my services too much becaus I'm not done coding the website

rg: whens its gonna be done

rg: well that's a silly question

rg: when do you expect it to be usable

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35364 @ 0.00038831 = 13.7322 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00038822 = 1.6693 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6031 @ 0.00038819 = 2.3412 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GERBITIN.PYRA] 1 @ 0.97 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: smickles did i miss something ?

rg: <smickles> mircea_popescu is a fag

assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 9 @ 0.165 = 1.485 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: rg http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134202169416.png

mircea_popescu: there is something i don't understand here tho. if i ihad the option of using a website or talking to a person, i'd chose the later.

rg: not everyone is a chatty catht

rg: cathy*

mircea_popescu: but i mean, all soets of companies have customer suippoirt phones.

mircea_popescu: what does everyone want to do ? TALK TO A PERSON!!!

rg: i dont

mircea_popescu: hm

mircea_popescu: maybe i'm just weird.

rg: you're just an old lady

rg: who cant get with the times

smickles: rg: i am working on the minimum viable product right now, so usable and 'done' are almost the same. To answer your question. If I can put some good work in, i'd say 6 days to mvp

mircea_popescu: rg possibly.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 769 @ 0.00038819 = 0.2985 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6831 @ 0.00038809 = 2.651 BTC [-]

smickles: and rg, if this does well, i'll need a dedi

smickles: and probably some advise

mircea_popescu: pity rg doesn't have any dedis.

smickles: but i don't know what advice yet

mircea_popescu: and doesn't know shit about it

mircea_popescu: :D

rg: i have plenty of dedis

smickles: mircea_popescu: i bet you'd like how i'm devoping this thing

rg: i just dont have any low end ones

rg: low end being under 4gb ram, less than 2 cores

mircea_popescu: o, rg is elitist.

smickles: i'm taking the perspective that i should make a web ui that fits my needs to service people who 'call me'

mircea_popescu: that's an ideea.

smickles: so i'll still be available to be called

assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.1785 BTC [+]

smickles: and the people who don't want to call, can use the web ui

assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.07 BTC [+]

smickles: senario: someone call me and asks for 100 call, 10 strike, expiring next month.

assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 32 @ 0.0154 = 0.4928 BTC [+]

smickles: if i have my web ui setup to where it's darn easy to enter that order,

mircea_popescu: so sorta like a form to email you ?

smickles: then someone else should be able to use it too

assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 20 @ 0.0095 = 0.19 BTC [-]

smickles: not really like a form to email me, more like navagate to the page wihe the button that says "BUY X CALLS" with input for x and the details of the the call

smickles: market>options>specific option

smickles: input 100, hit buy

smickles: the only differenc between my account and a user's account, is that i can set my actions to affect a user's account

smickles: and the user can only affect their account

mircea_popescu: o that's an interesting approach.

EB250: not good: https://community.rapid7.com/community/metasploit/blog/2012/08/27/lets-start-the-week-with-a-new-java-0day

mircea_popescu: EB250 ya someone mentioned it here back then

MrTiggr: http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Pirateat40 << teehee ... Chaang-Noi , its not filled in yet :D have yerself some spleen-venting fun :D

Chaang-Noi: :)

Chaang-Noi: i did not even know of that site

Chaang-Noi: im going to wait until matthews bet to do anything

Chaang-Noi: the 9th

MrTiggr: ;) its new .. (is me and a few others :D)

MrTiggr: gotta chronicle the lulz somehow

Chaang-Noi: yeah its cool

Chaang-Noi: ill book mark it:)

MrTiggr: :D thx

smickles: "Bitcoin is currently accepted in exchange for alpaca socks[2] and carrots[3], but you can also buy toilet paper on MtGox."

smickles: :D

MrTiggr: ^^ anyone else too, have some fun; take it out on a wiki, not the forums :P

Chaang-Noi: :)

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

gribble: Best bid: 10.75, Best ask: 10.8488, Bid-ask spread: 0.09880, Last trade: 10.75, 24 hour volume: 36164, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 10.98888

mircea_popescu: ahaha there's an ed for btc now ?

mircea_popescu: MrTiggr so how do i edit it ?

MrTiggr: yu will need an account

MrTiggr: simple sign up

mircea_popescu: ewgh.

mircea_popescu: i don't want an account. let anon express itself!

MrTiggr: if yud rather post copy to me, ill happily put it up :D

mircea_popescu: lol k

smickles: heh, now there's even bitcoin ed brokers

MrTiggr: AHAHAHAHAHAH

MrTiggr: smickles++

smickles: mircea_popescu: http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Mircea_Popescu

smickles: i've only just started, but it's accurate at least

mircea_popescu: ahaha

mircea_popescu: you need to enlist the help of some people on the forum.

smickles: mircea_popescu: but they would ruin the article by lying about you

mircea_popescu: let lies compete!

mircea_popescu: omg. MrTiggr i notice that offensive site of yours contains libelous and defamatory content about me! I SUE YOU

MrTiggr: hehehehe

MrTiggr: yu are fictional

MrTiggr: read the disclaimer ;)

mircea_popescu: ono.

mircea_popescu: internet is serious business.

Chaang-Noi: can we upload photos?

MrTiggr: http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Mircea_Popescu

MrTiggr: and yes yu can upload afaik

MrTiggr: :D enjoi

mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi give me nice tits you hear ?

MrTiggr: smickles++ u crack me up dood

mircea_popescu: none of that 1/2 A cup you got there in thailand.

MrTiggr: hehehehehehehe

MrTiggr: give "his effigy" nice tits

Chaang-Noi: wish i had more energy, i will ahve fun with this

MrTiggr: its a spleen-soma :D

Chaang-Noi: but not tonight, peace all

MrTiggr: nn goat

mircea_popescu: there should be borat somewhere there

MrTiggr: hehehehe

mircea_popescu: hey smickles i designate this as my official ab image : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13463383356.jpg

Chaang-Noi: where is the goats on the boats page?

Chaang-Noi: iv gota photo to upload

Chaang-Noi: MrTiggr please upload this photo to the goat on a boat page http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j343/TyGrrTech/f58b08402757.jpg thanks :)

jcpham: http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Bitcoin

jcpham: this is correct

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00038988 = 3.7039 BTC [+]

MrTiggr: lol ... ill get onto it now, goat

smickles: aw, internal error on upload of that pic

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5529 @ 0.00089275 = 4.936 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4941 @ 0.00087952 = 4.3457 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: MrTiggr needs a dedi

smickles: Could not create directory "mwstore://local-backend/local-public".

MrTiggr: lol

MrTiggr: i'll get the admin onto it

MrTiggr: (yu think i have enuf energy to maintain a mediawiki ppfft)

MrTiggr: :D he's on it

assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 26 @ 0.0034 = 0.0884 BTC [+]

MrTiggr: smickles: try agin now

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17568 @ 0.00038763 = 6.8099 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2032 @ 0.00038673 = 0.7858 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 15 @ 0.09 = 1.35 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GERBITIN.PYRA] 6 @ 0.9 = 5.4 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26168 @ 0.00038673 = 10.12 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29233 @ 0.00038663 = 11.3024 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.1179 = 0.2358 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.87 = 5.22 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GERBITIN.PYRA] 5 @ 0.97 = 4.85 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 87 @ 0.0095 = 0.8265 BTC [-]

bitfoo: mircea_popescu, lol, good old Peter Lambert

mircea_popescu: bitfoo indeed.

bitfoo: why are you digging up old threads anyway?

bitfoo: I thought you hated the forums :)

mircea_popescu: well, irl i'm a business consultant, but by my actual education i'm an philosopher/anthropologist

mircea_popescu: so it's a little bit of academic curiosity.

bitfoo: aha

bitfoo: interesting

mircea_popescu: bitcoin is actually old enough to be treated as an extinct culture if one's so inclined.

bitfoo: lol

mircea_popescu: why not, you know ?

mircea_popescu: some people solve crosswords.

bitfoo: yeah, it *does* seem like ages ago

mircea_popescu: and for that matter, i loathe the press, too

mircea_popescu: but i do read it. just, i keep everything for a few years first.

mircea_popescu: i normally read newspapers from like the late 2000s atm.

bitfoo: hahaha

mircea_popescu: i'm not even kidding.

bitfoo: that way it's "history" and not "news"

mircea_popescu: you;d be amazed how informative it is.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5867 @ 0.00038663 = 2.2684 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42133 @ 0.00038639 = 16.2798 BTC [-]

bitfoo: lol

bitfoo: that's not a bad idea

assbot: [GLBSE] [GERBITIN.PYRA] 5 @ 0.97 = 4.85 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GERBITIN.PYRA] 6 @ 0.9 = 5.4 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GERBITIN.PYRA] 5 @ 0.97 = 4.85 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GERBITIN.PYRA] 5 @ 0.9 = 4.5 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 4000 @ 0.0034 = 13.6 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 1.05 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GERBITIN.PYRA] 33 @ 0.9 = 29.7 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 6 @ 1.05 = 6.3 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 15 @ 0.1179 = 1.7685 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 2 @ 0.165 = 0.33 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.82621 = 3.3048 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 9 @ 0.82611 = 7.435 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.826 = 3.304 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.1199 = 0.2398 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 20 @ 0.87 = 17.4 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21767 @ 0.00038639 = 8.4106 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34811 @ 0.00038633 = 13.4485 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA-IPCORE-DEV] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA-IPCORE-DEV] 55 @ 0.37999999 = 20.9 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GERBITIN.PYRA] 1 @ 0.97 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA-IPCORE-DEV] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.5-10.MININGBOND] 28 @ 0.7 = 19.6 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.5-10.MININGBOND] 75 @ 0.75 = 56.25 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7401 @ 0.00038988 = 2.8855 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19959 @ 0.00039142 = 7.8124 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00039417 = 1.4584 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25415 @ 0.00039584 = 10.0603 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.5-10.MININGBOND] 2 @ 0.8 = 1.6 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 12 @ 0.08 = 0.96 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.06 = 0.12 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 50 @ 0.0095 = 0.475 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 15 @ 0.0095 = 0.1425 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 2 @ 0.0095 = 0.019 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 1 @ 0.0095 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 10 @ 0.1785 = 1.785 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 10000 @ 0.00012189 = 1.2189 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GERBITIN.PYRA] 1 @ 0.97 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 10 @ 0.12501 = 1.2501 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 90 @ 0.125 = 11.25 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 10 @ 0.125 = 1.25 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 14 @ 0.1378 = 1.9292 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 40 @ 0.13786 = 5.5144 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 20 @ 0.13786 = 2.7572 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 19 @ 1 = 19 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 10 @ 1 = 10 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 74 @ 1 = 74 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 1000 @ 0.01 = 10 BTC

assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.1199 = 0.7194 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 40 @ 0.0623 = 2.492 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.1071 = 3.9627 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 63 @ 0.107 = 6.741 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00038959 = 8.2593 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 3 @ 0.0159 = 0.0477 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27692 @ 0.00038959 = 10.7885 BTC [-]

smickles: hmm, so are ppt operators getting legal bs on their asses?

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P060T] 7 @ 0.02669781 = 0.1869 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.1179 = 0.7074 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 31 @ 0.12001 = 3.7203 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 100 @ 0.12 = 12 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 590 @ 0.115 = 67.85 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.1179 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 10 @ 0.13784 = 1.3784 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

gribble: Best bid: 10.763, Best ask: 10.7999, Bid-ask spread: 0.03690, Last trade: 10.8, 24 hour volume: 40575, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 10.98888

assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 2 @ 0.927 = 1.854 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 11 @ 0.9299 = 10.2289 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 1 @ 0.9448 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 4 @ 0.945 = 3.78 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 1 @ 0.945 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 6 @ 0.8299 = 4.9794 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 54 @ 0.83 = 44.82 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 16 @ 0.1 = 1.6 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 42 @ 0.06 = 2.52 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [MOORE] 1 @ 0.5088 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 14 @ 0.08 = 1.12 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 16 @ 0.06 = 0.96 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.07 = 0.35 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 86 @ 0.08 = 6.88 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 30 @ 0.07 = 2.1 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 37 @ 0.07 = 2.59 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10700 @ 0.00088603 = 9.4805 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4500 @ 0.00087952 = 3.9578 BTC [-]

usagi: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104489.msg1146869#msg1146869

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9023 @ 0.00089379 = 8.0647 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2634 @ 0.00089803 = 2.3654 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8843 @ 0.00090488 = 8.0019 BTC [+]

rg: usagi

rg: if you actually need those LTC

rg: i can sell em to you

usagi: Hey, I got it

usagi: Thanks I was just panicking because I didn't know what to do

rg: you got em already?

rg: ok

usagi: i ended up buying 500 btc ^^

usagi: i mean

usagi: litecoins

smickles: oh usagi

smickles: i've been meaning to ask

smickles: i know s2cm is small beans, but we'll prolly want some kinde of insurance on the funds we place

smickles: and

usagi: I wouldn't say anything smickles does is small beans. You're well-respected around these parts

smickles: as i'm a broker, do you offer security investor protection?

smickles: or something similar

usagi: You mean for your passthroughs?

usagi: I'm not sure what you mean

usagi: A shareholder protection agreement would protect investors in ss if the broker/dealer relationship failed

smickles: usagi: well, i hold various assets on behalf of people (outside of mpoeetf and ss)

smickles: suppose the exchange up and runs

usagi: it would depend on what you wanted protection from. if you wanted protection from something happening wrt glbse or mpex or protection on a particular asset that would be different

smickles: i should have insurance to refund my clients

usagi: But if the exchange up and runs your agreement with individual companies does not change

smickles: also, it should cover my clients in the even i can't perform my duties to them

usagi: Brokers merely hold securities for you on your behalf

usagi: Well I guess it would depend on what exchange

mircea_popescu: now this is interesting. im curious how much mpex insurance costs.

usagi: some exchanges are cheaper to insure than others ^^

usagi: Well, I don't have your dox mircea

usagi: so I would have to hunt you down, and that could be expensive

mircea_popescu: usagi lol, i'd expect the exchange which lists mostly scam assets would be VERY expensive.

smickles: also, i should have coverage in the sense of protecting my clients from myself

mircea_popescu: smickles that part can't be done smickles.

mircea_popescu: copumpkin worked on it for a while, but it just doesn't work.

usagi: I act on the information I have on my desk.

copumpkin: ?

copumpkin: oh, insurance?

mircea_popescu: copumpkin weren't yea

usagi: Some of which is priveledged to me as the guy who runs CPA

copumpkin: yeah, I realized I didn't want to diversify coverage enough to make it work, and the legal issues with CDSes in particular were too annoying

copumpkin: but mostly, insurance is only really worth it if you have a really wide uncorrelated portfolio of insured things

smickles: wikipedia on traditional security investor protection " It protects investors in certain securities from financial harm if a broker-dealer fails. It does not protect against losses in the securities markets, identity theft, or other 3rd-party fraud."

usagi: Well smickles

mircea_popescu: as far as i recall the main problem was you couldn't insure against X person cause he could just buy that insurance secretly and then default

usagi: The flavor of the month is the shareholder protection agreement.

usagi: If an exchange bolted

usagi: we could step in and cover your loss.

usagi: Since it would be out of your control

usagi: If you want full coverage it would depend on the amount you're covering

usagi: Probably 1% a month

usagi: Round number :p

copumpkin: mircea_popescu: that was a problem, but the main issue for profit vs. risk assumed is diverfisifcation

copumpkin: you're taking on the same risk as a lender/investor as an insurer

mircea_popescu: niceword there :D

copumpkin: it doesn't make sense for you to accept less reward than a direct investor

copumpkin: UNLESS you can do so all over the place

mircea_popescu: i guess this is true yea.

smickles: usagi: alrigh then, thanks for the primer :)

copumpkin: becasue you don't need to pony up cash up front

copumpkin: which is what allows you to diversify like crazy

usagi: Smickles; I think a much better form of insurance for a fund is nav insurance.

usagi: We agree to (for example) 100 payments of 5 bitcoins a week, in return for a (say) 400 BTC line of credit.

mircea_popescu: nav insurance ?! you can't possibly be offering that ?!

usagi: It would indemnify your fund against short term capital loss.

copumpkin: so the main benefit of selling investment insurance over investing directly is that you don't need to provide money, because the risk profile is identical. This lets you invest in a million different things, and assume way more liability than you're worth (ultimate leverage), which is only sane to do if your investments are uncorrelated

usagi: mircea; the owner of an options exchange should know better :p

usagi: I could just as well sell smickles an option to buy out his fund at a certain strike price.

usagi: happens all the time.

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11890 @ 0.00090488 = 10.759 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1410 @ 0.0009075 = 1.2796 BTC [+]

usagi: BTW we have sold a few options contracts and paid out on one already

usagi: we bought 1,000 shares of BMMO at .145 back when it was 0.08

mircea_popescu: how exactly do you evaluate the volatility of a stock that existed for less than a year ?

copumpkin: me or usagi?

mircea_popescu: usagi

usagi: mircea_popescu; That practice is known as "ratemaking" in the insurance biz, mircea

usagi: it's not so complex but requires a detailed analysis.

mircea_popescu: i'm in awe of the irresponsible stuff that passes for finance.

mircea_popescu: usagi you're on very shaky ground here.

usagi: Well it looks irresponsible but you really don't know anything about it.

mircea_popescu: o yea ?

usagi: It's actually backed up on some very interesting statistics

mircea_popescu: i see.

mircea_popescu: so let's see, mpoe.etf is a fund that's worth ~1800 btc atm ?

usagi: copumpkin just said half of it

mircea_popescu: how much does it cost me to buy 1800 of btc insurance agaisnt their nav ?

usagi: So you wanna short them.

usagi: ?

mircea_popescu: no, i just want to show you that you're irresponsible. you sell me the insurance, i go put a block of 50mn shares of my own stock at half the current implied price and i've taken you out.

mircea_popescu: please learn your fuckinglessons from the pirate fiasco.

usagi: Lol

mircea_popescu: lesson number one is that if you think you know more finance than me you're an idiot.

usagi: You're not very smart.

mircea_popescu: lesson number two is that you don't go by what you read in some wikipedia article about what happens irl.

mircea_popescu: that's not how finance works.

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 490 @ 0.0009075 = 0.4447 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4710 @ 0.0009155 = 4.312 BTC [+]

usagi: You are getting agitated because I run an insurance company. That's it. You need to relax.

usagi: All in all we completely broke even on pirate

mircea_popescu: why do people do this ?!

mircea_popescu: it boggles.

usagi: Even after I pay out the last 1100 coin contract remaining

assbot: [GLBSE] [GERBITIN.PYRA] 50 @ 0.9 = 45 BTC [-]

rg: okay usagi, i have a couple thousand if you need em

rg: i usually dont sell til i get to around 8500

rg: but difficulty has gone up so much

rg: 8500 used to be 1/2 week

rg: now its like 3.5

usagi: rg thanks I am planning to buy them off you for my hot new killer app soon

usagi: I could buy as many as 5000

rg: sure hopefully ill have more by then

rg: you could buy off chang too

rg: chang has a shitload of ltc

rg: way more than me

usagi: ouch.

usagi: hehe

usagi: I have a plan for that soon

smickles: http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Main:Current_events

usagi: One I finish my new interactive fiction masterpeice!

rg: i wrote a screenplay about bitcoin

usagi: once*

rg: i never let anyone read it tho

rg: basically the US collapses and joins the european union

rg: and the underground citizens start using bitcoin

rg: to avoid being tracked/taxed by the govt

rg: cause the EU has turned into a fourth reicht type thing

rg: its ... not very good

usagi: needs more desu.

rg: its just not an original idea

usagi: I have an idea

rg: Canada ends up nuking the EU

rg: (spoiler alert)

usagi: You could have the EU flee to the moon

kakobrekla: lol

kakobrekla: is this endoftheworld.swf ?

usagi: and build a moon base, and then 50 years later come back and invade

rg: the canadian union is umm

rg: iceland, canada, and alask

rg: a

rg: its been a while since i read it

kakobrekla: (if you are not familliar http://www.endofworld.net/ )

usagi: And during this time madagascar has become the center of world trade and finace.

rg: in my screen play

rg: all the african countries get renamed

rg: to european names

rg: OH i forgot the best part

rg: the fourth reicht, they dont kill minorities

rg: they have a machine that turns themwhite

kakobrekla: lol

rg: and all the characters in the book are IRC people

rg: vragnaroda is in it

rg: nanotube is in it

rg: mircea_popescu is the nigerian ambassador

rg: nigera aka Denmark2

rg: we start filming in a month

mircea_popescu: o i can has ambassador sahs ?

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13800 @ 0.00089791 = 12.3912 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1426 @ 0.00038888 = 0.5545 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18964 @ 0.00038888 = 7.3747 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7900 @ 0.00089791 = 7.0935 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 8 @ 0.06 = 0.48 BTC [-]

Anduck: hey guys

Anduck: who is payb.tc in irc?

Anduck: do he use irc?

Anduck: anyone know anything about him ?

assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.1102 = 0.8816 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.1101 = 0.9909 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.1101 = 3.9636 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.11 = 0.77 BTC [-]

Wolf_L: NOPE

Wolf_L: ;;ticker

gribble: Best bid: 10.75001, Best ask: 10.76998, Bid-ask spread: 0.01997, Last trade: 10.8, 24 hour volume: 37351, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 10.93199

Wolf_L: Still on 10.75

Wolf_L: what a load of bollocks

assbot: [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 65 @ 0.01 = 0.65 BTC

exahash: buy some, it'll go up higher

Wolf_L: ;;market buy 50000

gribble: A market order to buy 50000 bitcoins right now would take 577471.3123 USD and would take the last price up to 12.2157 USD, resulting in an average price of 11.5494 USD/BTC.

Wolf_L: ;;market buy 100000

gribble: A market order to buy 100000 bitcoins right now would take 1265845.2707 USD and would take the last price up to 15.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 12.6585 USD/BTC.

Wolf_L: ;;market buy 200000

gribble: This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 150447.71 bitcoins, for a total of 1112962330.6030 USD and take the price to 1000000000.0000.

exahash: I could live iwth that

exahash: with

Wolf_L: ;;market buy 150000

gribble: A market order to buy 150000 bitcoins right now would take 43206514.1319 USD and would take the last price up to 100000.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 288.0434 USD/BTC.

Wolf_L: lol

exahash: do it!

mircea_popescu: lol ya

mircea_popescu: do it. do it.

assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 30 @ 0.1 = 3 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [+]

Wolf_L: ;;market buy 120000

gribble: A market order to buy 120000 bitcoins right now would take 1575702.1023 USD and would take the last price up to 17.5900 USD, resulting in an average price of 13.1309 USD/BTC.

Wolf_L: ;;market buy 130000

gribble: A market order to buy 130000 bitcoins right now would take 1768377.5390 USD and would take the last price up to 20.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 13.6029 USD/BTC.

Wolf_L: ;;market buy 140000

gribble: A market order to buy 140000 bitcoins right now would take 2019344.0324 USD and would take the last price up to 30.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 14.4239 USD/BTC.

Wolf_L: So you could buy up to $30 at a $14 average

Wolf_L: Sell them at $30 if possible

Wolf_L: and profit even if it goes down a little

assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 40 @ 0.11 = 4.4 BTC [+]

EskimoBob: ;;market sell 50000

gribble: A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 486057.6760 USD and would take the last price down to 9.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 9.7212 USD/BTC.

EskimoBob: ;;market sell 500000

gribble: A market order to sell 500000 bitcoins right now would net 1969654.2931 USD and would take the last price down to 1.1500 USD, resulting in an average price of 3.9393 USD/BTC.

assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 3 @ 0.1785 = 0.5355 BTC [+]

Wolf_L: Anybody have GMVT-BOT to lend out?

assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: Wolf_L these things aren't very accurate you know. more orders would spring up

Wolf_L: True. The exchange is too slow.

assbot: [GLBSE] [UDN] 1 @ 0.10099999 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 101 @ 0.08 = 8.08 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1540 @ 0.00089351 = 1.376 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+]

EskimoBob: http://blockchain.info/charts/output-volume :)

EskimoBob: some serious coin moving is happening

assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-]

leotreasure: wow

leotreasure: i think we're on the cusp of bubble v2

mircea_popescu: EskimoBob that's mostly satoshi dice.

kakobrekla: its not nb of tx

kakobrekla: but its volume

kakobrekla: i dont think its sd

mircea_popescu: thing with transactions is

mircea_popescu: if i move 5 btc out of a wallet with 5000 btc in it

mircea_popescu: you might very well see 5000 btc move.

mircea_popescu: 4995 of them to another address of mine.

kakobrekla: yes

kakobrekla: but those spikes should be conusmed

kakobrekla: by share volume of small tx

kakobrekla: this is bigger.

mircea_popescu: hmm. maybe.

mircea_popescu: http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions

mircea_popescu: the ntransactions is moving in step.

mircea_popescu: or maybe not.

kakobrekla: hm

kakobrekla: if we compare those two

kakobrekla: we can see something has changed in the output size

mircea_popescu: http://blockchain.info/charts/blocks-size haha this is a dfunny one.

Anduck: mircea_popescu: why 20btc?

Anduck: why why why why why

kakobrekla: almost like global warmings hockey stick

mircea_popescu: Anduck sorry ?

Anduck: mircea_popescu: 20btc to register my gpg in mpex

mircea_popescu: o o

kakobrekla: you should use my refferal

mircea_popescu: well... i like money.

kakobrekla: or something

kakobrekla: :>

Anduck: kakobrekla what it is?

kakobrekla: sec

kakobrekla: 27AF75321F2489E8

kakobrekla: key id is what mp needs afaik

mircea_popescu: nah you need the whole keyid

kakobrekla: well, http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=kakobrekla

mircea_popescu: i mean, fingerprint

mircea_popescu: not keyid sorry

Anduck: what do i do with this ?

kakobrekla: dunno :D

kakobrekla: i think just notify mp

mircea_popescu: Anduck when you send your key via email mention it.

assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.869999 BTC [-]

Anduck: mircea_popescu: i am not intending on paying over 200 USD to use your system, still.

Anduck: i prefer GLBSE or similar

mircea_popescu: that's fine.

Anduck: i would use MPEX if it wasnt that 20btc price lol

Anduck: its just waste to pay 20btc to buy shares worth of 10 btc

kakobrekla: hm

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/faq.html#13 for later reference.

kakobrekla: yeah

kakobrekla: Anduck, use my ref. and get 2.5 btc back :D

mircea_popescu: Anduck yeah, if you're doing that sort of volume it's prolly not worth your while.

Anduck: any info how can i buy the stock i want?

Anduck: without making acc in mpex?

mircea_popescu: you could use a broker

mircea_popescu: such as glbse, or otherwise smickles, brendio, scl.

mircea_popescu: i think there's more.

Anduck: how do these brokers maintain my shares?

mircea_popescu: well you'd have to ask them, wouldn't you ? i think they keep spreadsheets mostly.

Anduck: k

Anduck: and they pay dividends like a passthrough

Anduck: ?

mircea_popescu: well ya

Anduck: k

assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOT] 3 @ 0.91 = 2.73 BTC [+]

chmod755: http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Bruce_Fagner

mircea_popescu: lolz

mircea_popescu: Please note that in all e-mails from Liberty Reserve we will: Always address you by your first name.

mircea_popescu: suych bs.

mircea_popescu: chmod755 re RapeHill > did they ever reinburse the users ? dja know ?

chmod755: mircea_popescu: i have no idea

mircea_popescu: it's so odd how that dissapeared from the radar.

mircea_popescu: they were gonna sue dwolla and all... dwolla didn't seem to think much of it... the end ?

kakobrekla: clickin @ random page

kakobrekla: http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Mircea_Popescu

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: i just realised that http://brucewagner.com/forum/index.php is practically an exact copy of http://polimedia.us/btcf/index.php

mircea_popescu: the fag stole my forum!

chmod755: lol

mircea_popescu: we should have a fag, where's my forum! reality tv show

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

gribble: Best bid: 10.792, Best ask: 10.8358, Bid-ask spread: 0.04380, Last trade: 10.8358, 24 hour volume: 31470, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 10.93199

assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 2 @ 1.5601 = 3.1202 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 3 @ 1.56 = 4.68 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.52 = 1.04 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.093 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.529 = 1.058 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 10 @ 0.0939 = 0.939 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.104 = 0.416 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 28 @ 0.09389 = 2.6289 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 3 @ 0.0095 = 0.0285 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 32 @ 0.103999 = 3.328 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 58 @ 0.104 = 6.032 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.104 = 2.08 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.104 = 0.208 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 5 @ 0.52 = 2.6 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.53 = 1.59 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 40 @ 0.09389 = 3.7556 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.104 = 0.52 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.5299 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 5 @ 0.09399 = 0.47 BTC [+]

DeaDTerra1: Join the first ever Swedish Bitcoin meetup in Stockholm now on Saturday! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83329.0

DeaDTerra1: I am going :D

BTC-Mining: dammit, that's too far for me

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36136 @ 0.00039215 = 14.1707 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14064 @ 0.00039203 = 5.5135 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2000 @ 0.0031 = 6.2 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: i dont think i could get to stockholm by sat if i started right now.

assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.ABMO] 7 @ 0.07999999 = 0.56 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 14 @ 0.10001337 = 1.4002 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 25 @ 0.10001337 = 2.5003 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 72 @ 0.1 = 7.2 BTC [-]

assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 10 @ 0.1015 = 1.015 BTC [+]

DeaDTerra1: Too bad :(

DeaDTerra1: Though 20 people are coming so far :D that's good :P

DeaDTerra1: I barely know any Bitcoineers that are swedes

mircea_popescu: i thought sweden is overrepresented tbh

mircea_popescu: more bitcoiners from there than you'd expect based on populatyion

DeaDTerra1: That might be true but I mean Swedes are always in the front of technology :P

mircea_popescu: orly :D

DeaDTerra1: Haha I might be bias ^^ xD

assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.093 BTC [-]