kakobrekla: well im quite certian we wont see 5$ again in 2012
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 906 @ 0.846 = 766.476 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: but you neverk now. yet another mtgox hack. one large player deciding to quit
Obsi: so wait... we have to buy BTC on SR with BTC if that happens?
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 3 @ 0.8499 = 2.5497 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 30 @ 0.1 = 3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JTME] 3 @ 0.9998 = 2.9994 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 350 @ 0.00282246 = 0.9879 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 221 @ 0.00300496 = 0.6641 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 500 @ 0.0033919 = 1.696 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 1.02999998 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 5 @ 1.55 = 7.75 BTC [-]
dub: with my 0.00000001 bid
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.109 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 1.1298 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 1.12998 = 6.7799 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 1.13 = 3.39 BTC [+]
MoneyIsDebt: scary with the number of hacks in the bitcoin world
dub: there are far more hapening on much bigger scale elsewhere
MoneyIsDebt: yes, but in that world you have insurance and such
bitfoo: also, consider amount of hacks / total size of economy
bitfoo: surely BTC wins under that metric
MoneyIsDebt: you mean all other economies put together? That's hardly fair
dub: when blizzard gets its database stolen I expect it costs them quite a lot
MoneyIsDebt: Blizzard probably gets it back in free publicity
dub: ubisoft could be looking at some serious loss for backdooring all of their customers
dub: linkedin's security spend probably jumped exponentially
MoneyIsDebt: I don't keep anything of value online anyway..
MoneyIsDebt: bitcoins (and glbse assets) are the exception
MoneyIsDebt: thus I'm more worried about hacks in this "world"
dub: the differences with bitcoin are that its an easy target to gain monetary value directly, there are a lot of stupid children implementing bitcoin services and a lot more people willing to blindly invest in them
MoneyIsDebt: Also, it's keeping me from investing bigger amounts. Now, I'm only buying what I'd be able to get over by cursing for half a minute or so.
MoneyIsDebt: Hackers (crackers) being anti-authoritarian should be supporting bitcoin. Show some solidarity to the project.
dub: was going to ask if it gets cold inside as a result
assbot: [GLBSE] [IBB] 5 @ 0.64 = 3.2 BTC
bitfoo: how's the funding situation looking?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 1.02999996 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 4 @ 1.03 = 4.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 10 @ 1.035 = 10.35 BTC [+]
brendio: I'm at 7% even with the new levels
brendio: I increased my own personal exposure a bit temporarily
bitfoo: I was going to offer some if you needed more
brendio: I just need to manage redemptions etc now
brendio: Did you want to invest some more or only to help me out?
assbot: [GLBSE] [007] 2 @ 0.1818 = 0.3636 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [007] 3 @ 0.1789 = 0.5367 BTC [-]
bitfoo: didn't want any more exposure to pirate
kakobrekla: MoneyIsDebt, its how a female would say: (more directly) "how should i say" / (less directly) "how should i put it" in a certian slovenian dialect
bitfoo: because dropping to 6% could cause an irrecoverable bank run
assbot: [GLBSE] [IBB] 5 @ 0.64 = 3.2 BTC
MoneyIsDebt: kakobrekla: How would a male say: "where should i put it" in the same dialect?
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 6 @ 0.6 = 3.6 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: its not 'where' as you typed but 'how'
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.39968999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 874 @ 0.8499 = 742.8126 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 18 @ 0.10898 = 1.9616 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.BTCST.PPT] 1 @ 1.03 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.1 = 0.3 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.102 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.10111 = 0.5056 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 85 @ 0.10111 = 8.5944 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.10111 = 10.111 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 309 @ 0.1011 = 31.2399 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 1.1201 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMMO] 1 @ 0.081001 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: any else want to bulk order ASICMINER and get the shares for 0.09 BTC?
DeaDTerra: last call the bulk will be traded tomorrow
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10896 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FZB.A] 1 @ 0.03 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: Also, public poll: Who here thinks transactions on GLBSE made in error should not be reversed?
toffoo: what kind of "error" are we talking here?
BTC-Mining: I lost money selling shares at .12 instead of 1.12 (made for a nice loss). Most people recommended to request a reversal. I however think such transactions should not be reversable and I didn't request it.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.370001 BTC [-]
toffoo: sounds like you did the right thing
BTC-Mining: Yes, just like stock exchange, I think transactions should not be reversable (barring hacking/stolen funds)
BTC-Mining: I however would like to see a setting allowing to set a % over/under market price at which it triggers a confirmation screen to pop. It would be as simple as a lightweight javascript checking the 7 day average and comparing if it's x% over or under your current setting.
toffoo: I would be a lot richer man today if I could go back and reverse all those fat-finger, bad big figure, or typo trades I've done. those can be expensive mistakes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00034514 = 8.0418 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00034655 = 0.6584 BTC [+]
toffoo: that's not a bad idea. you could argue any trading system should have that kind of feature, but most dont
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10896 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Not sure the 5 day average is already loaded on page but eh
BTC-Mining: 5 day is there. Maybe I should make a small script for greasmonkey using the onpage 5 day average... trigerring when submitting the buy/sell form
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 799 @ 0.00034655 = 0.2769 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42601 @ 0.00034666 = 14.7681 BTC [+]
Obsi: don't forget to have it alert when the 5 day is 0
BTC-Mining: The 5 day can be very low/high however
BTC-Mining: depending if only the last trade is included
BTC-Mining: I heard a rumor nefario is working on a new feature allowing to place multiple bids on different shares with the same funds
Obsi: yes that will be nice
BTC-Mining: If he does that, any issue with low volume of bids would pretty much be gone.
BTC-Mining: It might get processing intensive however checking with each transaction the funds remaining and removing other bids accordingly.
usagi: database intensive maybe hehe
usagi: well, same thing ithink
usagi: but all the remaining bids could be cleared at the same time by a key number
BTC-Mining: and database queries tend to be intensive all around
BTC-Mining: still, best option for rapidly changing data
usagi: its a bad idea imo
usagi: it will be removed when volume increases
usagi: it will be the source of many issues hehe
BTC-Mining: That's half true. Suppose price is 1 and 2 on different shares and you have 18 BTC. You might want to buy those at 0.9 BTC or 1.8BTC each, with no preference as to which to buy first.
BTC-Mining: As such, being able two place multiple bid on the same balance would be interesting to insure you can buy the first that gets an ask coming in.
BTC-Mining: But yes, it would also have disdvantages too
BTC-Mining: On a side note, I still have my 0.5% weekly loan bonds that are not selling. Currently backed at 13990:1
BTC-Mining: What's the lowest rate people would require on a loan?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.10896 = 0.5448 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.19589999 = 0.5877 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.1959 = 0.9795 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: It's 28x the rate my bank would provide loans with.
BTC-Mining: and about 120x a loan rate backed by a house =/
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 12 @ 0.09 = 1.08 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.1085 = 0.651 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JTME] 1 @ 0.9997 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.1 = 5 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.3799 = 2.2794 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 1.0599 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 30 @ 0.08997989 = 2.6994 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: why would anyone loan you money
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 5 @ 0.1187 = 0.5935 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 4 @ 0.1188 = 0.4752 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: as long as you have some reputation and you can guarantee that you can pay it back
BTC-Mining: There's plenty of loans going around Diablo
BTC-Mining: Yes, I suppose I could go up to 1%... still seems like a lot at 52% per year however.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14727 @ 0.00034666 = 5.1053 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73 @ 0.00034672 = 0.0253 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: Every month in the Bitcoin economy is a year in real life :P
Luceo: The loan can increase or decrease in $ value by far more than 1% in a week :P
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 3 @ 0.09999 = 0.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.0001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCWEB] 1 @ 0.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.1 = 1.1 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.BTCST.PPT] 4 @ 1.03 = 4.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 1.14089 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 1.140989 = 4.564 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 1.141 = 2.282 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 2000 @ 0.00011485 = 0.2297 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 300 @ 0.00011485 = 0.0345 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 34 @ 0.00011485 = 0.0039 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 75 @ 1.04 = 78 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 1.0403 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11826 @ 0.00034672 = 4.1003 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 1 @ 0.169899 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5600 @ 0.00110266 = 6.1749 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 1.1201 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.000335 = 3.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 1.1201 = 4.4804 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 1.12 = 11.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44647 @ 0.00034672 = 15.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2630 @ 0.0003469 = 0.9123 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26830 @ 0.0003469 = 9.3073 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6567 @ 0.00034699 = 2.2787 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.10738 = 0.6443 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35109 @ 0.00034116 = 11.9778 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2833 @ 0.00034699 = 0.983 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14867 @ 0.00034776 = 5.1701 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 40 @ 0.10737 = 4.2948 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.10737 = 0.2147 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 5 @ 1.224 = 6.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9095 @ 0.00034776 = 3.1629 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13105 @ 0.00034897 = 4.5733 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1761 @ 0.00034897 = 0.6145 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 593 @ 0.00034924 = 0.2071 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 4 @ 1.247 = 4.988 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 5 @ 1.248 = 6.24 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: well coingenuity provided no answer... sadly
BTC-Mining: hmm, seems the link was deactived. Convenient.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10737 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: I wish we could get the full specifics details about those operations.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 1.04 = 4.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-A] 1 @ 0.154 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: well, pirate too, which has many shares reselling the investment
BTC-Mining: I'm unsure why cavirtex decided to promote them
BTC-Mining: Cavirtex is a very small exchange to start with...
BTC-Mining: Not so many Canadians that are fans of bitcoins
mircea_popescu: i didn't even know youtube counted views to that granularity.
BTC-Mining: As far as I know, their stats are very accurate and detailed.
BTC-Mining: And "partner" accounts get a share of revenue too (for actual content creators).
BTC-Mining: So long as it's their videos and it does not contain any brand/copyright music seen or heard within
BTC-Mining: Well it is owned by google now... and they do are great for stat tools and revenue sharing will sorts of partner tools
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1300 @ 0.00356657 = 4.6365 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Poll: if you were to catch a sale of shares from a large typo, would you be willing to let their owner buy them back if they requested it explaining the situation?
mircea_popescu: btw, do you know about that 1bn shares sale on the japan market ?
mircea_popescu: was am istake by like 3 degrees of magnitude, went through
BTC-Mining: I know people here who would have accepted however to refund
BTC-Mining: Although I must say most around are individuals who know each other and not large funds/corporation/legal entities
BTC-Mining: 3 orders of magnitude? Like shares worth $20 sold at $0.20?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 10 @ 1.0597 = 10.597 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 18 @ 1.0598 = 19.0764 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 17 @ 1.0599 = 18.0183 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 15 @ 1.06 = 15.9 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell btc-mining no, like an order for 1mn shares was turned into one for 1bn shares.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 1.04 = 2.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 800 @ 0.00110278 = 0.8822 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 10 @ 0.10296 = 1.0296 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 1 @ 1.1101 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 1 @ 1.069 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 17 @ 0.00356657 = 0.0606 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 8 @ 1.04 = 8.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SILVER] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 18 @ 0.1188 = 2.1384 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 5 @ 0.119 = 0.595 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 44 @ 0.12 = 5.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 1.04 = 10.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.HASH.P10TH] 150000 @ 0.01666535 = 2499.8025 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.1 = 0.3 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGA-EU] 1 @ 0.195 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.3851 = 2.3106 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 8 @ 0.01 = 0.08 BTC [+]
usagi: BMF paid dividends (1.22% on 0.72btc/share, NAV is now 0.73)
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1049 = 0.2098 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.1 = 3.7 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [M.ETF] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [+]
usagi: Bitcoin Mining Fund
usagi: The largest and dare I say best run mining fund on the GLBSE
usagi: I will be updating the page shortly, the fund was in sleepwalking mode for the last month
usagi: because of the minign crash
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 10 @ 0.084 = 0.84 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: o hey, with nice assets discussion and everything on that blog.
usagi: I will be publishing an interview with Juan of BTC-MINING this week.
usagi: Kick off the week with a bang ^^
usagi: Well my goal is to be the best in everything I do
usagi: I just hried someone to do analysis and writeups
usagi: So we will see if I can't get a few writeups/advisories out this month too
usagi: I also write options for customers :p
usagi: But we do it by hand, nothing on an exchange yet
usagi: We paid out on a BMMO covered call just recently
usagi: or was that a put, something like that
usagi: Yea but I do them by hand because there's no facility for backing it on the GLBSE.
mircea_popescu: i could make a symbol on mpex but i don't think there's enough volume yet to warrant it. maybe on giga, tho...
usagi: We can take the other side of covered calls as well, which is a popular option for customers
usagi: All in good time mircea, i'm sure it will be facilitated soon
usagi: One way or another :)
assbot: [GLBSE] [IMPACT] 1 @ 0.009 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1049 = 0.5245 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MU] 1 @ 0.5099 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.1049 = 0.3147 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.3699 = 2.2194 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3914 @ 0.00034924 = 1.3669 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57077 @ 0.00034947 = 19.9467 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48886 @ 0.00035001 = 17.1106 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51400 @ 0.00035029 = 18.0049 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.0003506 = 0.2104 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25614 @ 0.00035145 = 9.002 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67872 @ 0.00035149 = 23.8563 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64108 @ 0.00035159 = 22.5397 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50367 @ 0.00035192 = 17.7252 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3121 @ 0.00035266 = 1.1007 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37203 @ 0.00035523 = 13.2156 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42305 @ 0.0003554 = 15.0352 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64300 @ 0.00035672 = 22.9371 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11090 @ 0.00035748 = 3.9645 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20407 @ 0.00035763 = 7.2982 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7101 @ 0.00035896 = 2.549 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29070 @ 0.00035941 = 10.448 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35528 @ 0.00035961 = 12.7762 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36381 @ 0.00035967 = 13.0852 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13138 @ 0.00035996 = 4.7292 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15239 @ 0.0003601 = 5.4876 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16805 @ 0.00036022 = 6.0535 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39100 @ 0.0003603 = 14.0877 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 912 @ 0.00036092 = 0.3292 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4070 @ 0.00036156 = 1.4715 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23241 @ 0.00036171 = 8.4065 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53381 @ 0.00036295 = 19.3746 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42478 @ 0.00036328 = 15.4314 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29025 @ 0.00036435 = 10.5753 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00036448 = 0.9112 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59100 @ 0.00036451 = 21.5425 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40086 @ 0.00036468 = 14.6186 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4581 @ 0.00036484 = 1.6713 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 155 @ 0.000238 = 0.0369 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.1 = 1 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.1 = 0.9 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.05 = 0.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 199 @ 0.1 = 19.9 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30719 @ 0.00036484 = 11.2075 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8581 @ 0.00036616 = 3.142 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: usagi: you got any .C laying around?
usagi: im updating the spreadsheets
usagi: then I will put them up for sale again
usagi: dont panic they will go for 1 btc :)
usagi: Just put up a bid for 1
EskimoBob: my PPT.C expired and I missed out on the auction while traveling
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1049 = 0.2098 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 1 @ 1.62 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.1 = 1.3 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.37479999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.1242 = 0.2484 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1049 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: [08:55:38] <kakobrekla> Diablo-D3, what did they say to make you belive in them :)
EskimoBob: usagi: do people get mad when you do your weekly dump at 1?
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: Im not sure if the info should be public, so Im not repeating it, but they answered the questions approrpiately
usagi: If they buy in at 1.10 during the week and get a 8.5% payment
usagi: then they only really paid like 1.015
usagi: thats not a big deal
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [-]
usagi: Some guy bought 50 shares at 1.50
usagi: I daresay he will have a chance to get out
usagi: shares going up now
usagi: place your bids gentlemen
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: btw, whats the difference between usagi and me? I buy DMC shares out when they're exceedingly cheap
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.BTCST.PPT] 1 @ 1.03 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 1 @ 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 5 @ 1 = 5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14725 @ 0.00036616 = 5.3917 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57267 @ 0.00036619 = 20.9706 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43137 @ 0.00036623 = 15.7981 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10229 @ 0.00036715 = 3.7556 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25324 @ 0.00036728 = 9.301 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51600 @ 0.00036782 = 18.9795 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18542 @ 0.00036804 = 6.8242 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49151 @ 0.0003684 = 18.1072 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34400 @ 0.00036856 = 12.6785 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66198 @ 0.00036858 = 24.3993 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 626 @ 0.00036867 = 0.2308 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42985 @ 0.00036922 = 15.8709 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23180 @ 0.00036928 = 8.5599 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61866 @ 0.00036983 = 22.8799 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56602 @ 0.00036992 = 20.9382 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53131 @ 0.00036996 = 19.6563 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3501 @ 0.00037023 = 1.2962 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23271 @ 0.00037037 = 8.6189 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57619 @ 0.00037041 = 21.3427 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33343 @ 0.00037066 = 12.3589 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26408 @ 0.00037097 = 9.7966 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47870 @ 0.00037119 = 17.7689 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48910 @ 0.00037171 = 18.1803 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64861 @ 0.00037183 = 24.1173 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17844 @ 0.00037184 = 6.6351 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46802 @ 0.00037236 = 17.4272 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20608 @ 0.00037361 = 7.6994 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 10 @ 1.01 = 10.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 5 @ 1.009 = 5.045 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 1.005 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 5 @ 1.00000011 = 5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 10 @ 1 = 10 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 20 @ 1 = 20 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 50 @ 1 = 50 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: nothing wrong with your fond but I think you are too deep in "bonds" - actually, I have not see the last investment report and I can be wrong
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.1 = 1 BTC
EskimoBob: I still hold DMC looks like someone had a panic attack - 0.00000001
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: just a rewrite rule
TheSeven: EskimoBob: or a breached GLBSE account that was cleared out
EskimoBob: but "D" is not same as "d" in linux world :)
assbot: [MPEX] [O.HASH.P10TH] 150000 @ 0.01993505 = 2990.2575 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob i know that, im just saying, it's a line in htaccess.
usagi: Just wait til obsi makes his bidwall
usagi: then you will see spam.
mircea_popescu: wait Diablo-D3 runs a fund ? thought it was a straight miner.
usagi: Well it depends who you ask
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3072 @ 0.00111919 = 3.4382 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5933 @ 0.00112857 = 6.6958 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5864 @ 0.00112948 = 6.6233 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8944 @ 0.00113011 = 10.1077 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1187 @ 0.0011304 = 1.3418 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Each share represents 0% of the ownership in the company assets.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 1.0403 = 5.2015 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1500 @ 0.00011485 = 0.1723 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 700 @ 0.0011304 = 0.7913 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.1 = 2.3 BTC
mircea_popescu: The number of accounts is currently at about 22000, and the largest number of people online at any given time is 126
mircea_popescu: usagi : you prolly want to put those on a blog or something of your own too
usagi: It will go up soon
usagi: so I won't relay what amounts to rumor
usagi: But it is obvious that JRO has been neglegent in his duties to shareholders
usagi: For example I will not state that he isn't responding to emails, but rather point out that someone else said that
usagi: And a number of other things.. Check the rebate and zip.a threads
usagi: Kind of weird because he is well known in the SF community, I hear people he doesn't know stop him on the street all the time asking him about his businesses
usagi: I'm sure it will be resolved soon
Diablo-D3: [11:23:00] <mircea_popescu> wait Diablo-D3 runs a fund ? thought it was a straight miner.
Diablo-D3: its not a fund, although its been virtually acting like that for the short term
Diablo-D3: its hard to be when there isnt many options out there
Diablo-D3: if you want a diversified fund, go buy usagi's bmf instead
mircea_popescu: im trying to recall what the relation was between zip.x and bdk
usagi: Nothing apparently
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 just sorta trying to keep track of what's going on :p
usagi: BDK is Kludge's bank
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: thats DMC's big plan
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 2 @ 0.99999999 = 2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 i thought it was a pretty good adaptation of gaap for bitcoin assets. just saying/
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
usagi: Who would sell NYAN at 0.99999 given we pay 8.6% a week
usagi: They must need it for drugs or something
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 3 @ 0.99999999 = 3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 15 @ 1 = 15 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol @ forum hate. what's p4 got against you Diablo-D3 ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: people may throw their money at Pirate or BFL instead because they don't know any better. << what's the problem with bfl ?!
mircea_popescu: aren't they supposed to deliver like 1mn worth of fpga/asics this year to various ppl ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 1.14099999 = 6.846 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 1.14109999 = 4.5644 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00011485 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: well maybe not exactly the same but yeah, many well known too.
mircea_popescu: possibly, yea, since it's not clear exactly how many he;'s taking or what.
mircea_popescu: well i'll tell you, if bfl flakes out that'll be some pretty turmoily news.
zefir: ZETA-MINING: dividends for week 32.2012 paid
mircea_popescu: there is a point raised there, troll or no troll. the question with mining assets is if their dividends meet their depreciation rates
EskimoBob: what was the BTC price when the BFL (or is it BFFL :) hysteria started?
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob when do you count it to have started ? january ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 i doubt if btc goes back under 10 this year tbh.
mircea_popescu: but just ftr, the first 1mn start-up is kinda too late, mpex is ~3.5mn atm.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4900 @ 0.0011304 = 5.539 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: I am planning to do another ASICMINER bulk order, if anyone is interested or want to join our skype group to talk to the development crew, then pm me :)
mircea_popescu: DeaDTerra what do you know about the entire ownes/zip thing ?
mircea_popescu: i'm asking because "Hello, I am sorry that there has been no official thread so far JRO the owner of Rebate has not had time to post one as he has a lot to do with other projects, Kronor etc."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 500 @ 0.00351528 = 1.7576 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: DeaDTerra: are they close to being done?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 1.03499934 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.1959 = 0.9795 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 1.04 = 2.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 10 @ 1.248 = 12.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 13 @ 0.1242 = 1.6146 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ok, this is possibly the most unprofessional thing i ever read in my life. WHAT ?!
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.1242 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: dude, it boggles. "i had an asset made in my name on my website and then i got like 1k btc of i dunno how many raised cause i didn't care and nao i shall give people whatever i have left ty all for being pros"
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: more like 2 months ago or so
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob well why ? i mean giga was doing raffles back in april or w/e ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 20 @ 1 = 20 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DI.BFLSC.FAIL] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 1.14099999 = 4.564 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: <mircea_popescu> DeaDTerra what do you know about the entire ownes/zip thing ? In what sense what do I know?, I know most things about it.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.15439999 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: DeaDTerra: how close are they to their goal?
DeaDTerra: ZipConf has a major flaw/bug in the system, it's unknown when or if it will ever be fixed, JRO has said that it might not be able to be launched publically but it can instead run as a network with only trusted parties on it. Note that I am parafrasing
DeaDTerra: Rebate is up and running but is not as profitable as it needs to be and I doubt it will be as profitable, as long as it's not integrated to ZipConf and it doesn't have a proper development team behind it.
DeaDTerra: My opinion is to reach a deal with JRO of a slow payback to the investors.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.PPT] 7 @ 1.8 = 12.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 9 @ 0.37479999 = 3.3732 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.37489999 = 2.2494 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 11 @ 0.1011102 = 1.1122 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 38 @ 0.1011101 = 3.8422 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.10111 = 1.0111 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 514 @ 0.1011 = 51.9654 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1000 @ 0.101 = 101 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 500 @ 0.1008 = 50.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 500 @ 0.1007 = 50.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 800 @ 0.1006 = 80.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1000 @ 0.10055 = 100.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.1005 = 10.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 300 @ 0.1004 = 30.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 200 @ 0.1003 = 20.06 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.1002 = 10.02 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.1001 = 10.01 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.100001 = 2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 18 @ 0.100001 = 1.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 500 @ 0.1000001 = 50.0001 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 72 @ 0.1 = 7.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 60 @ 0.1 = 6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 80 @ 0.1 = 8 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 600 @ 0.1 = 60 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 130 @ 0.1 = 13 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 70 @ 0.1 = 7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 60 @ 0.1 = 6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 80 @ 0.1 = 8 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 105 @ 0.1 = 10.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 64 @ 0.1 = 6.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 190 @ 0.1 = 19 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.1 = 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1 = 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 900 @ 0.1 = 90 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 300 @ 0.1 = 30 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.1 = 0.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 21 @ 0.1 = 2.1 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: DeaDTerra so then as conjecture, the problem they were trying to solve solved them, people got disheatened, took a nervous break-down, will in principle be back to unwind soonish
mircea_popescu: "From what I've learned, those around him (not going to drop names here) have been covering for him for some time. To resolve a situation requires at the least basic communication, of which we've not seen for months."
DeaDTerra: JRO is moving on to other projects and is becoming hard to communcate with.
mircea_popescu: this on the other hand sounds extremely shakaru-esque.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 3 @ 0.3899 = 1.1697 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: when rebate couldn't show the results the shareholders wanted I pushed for a buy back and as JRO didn't respond and I haven't talked to him in a week Nefario decided to shut down the accounts, to investigate what was going on.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 450 @ 0.1 = 45 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: Some say he's currently sick, I don't know I just want this solved and get back my BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 1 @ 1.065 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 1.55 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 39 @ 1.51 = 58.89 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: it's his new Project that he has been spending time on instead of cleaning up Rebate and ZipConf.
DeaDTerra: That's why I don't think he will make a run or something silly like that.
DeaDTerra: Because he is heavily invested in other Bitcoin related projects.
mircea_popescu: well srsly, if this guy is short like 5k btc = 50k usd and jared kenna contributed about the same that'd be all their working capital involed there.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.BTCST.PPT] 8 @ 1.03 = 8.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 1.03499932 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.1 = 0.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.BTCST.PPT] 30 @ 1.035 = 31.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 3 @ 1.51 = 4.53 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 7 @ 1.492 = 10.444 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: DeaDTerra: to you know what language they used to write ZipConf?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.BTCST.PPT] 35 @ 1.04 = 36.4 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Matthew, I will not entertain your personal circus since I do not consider you a serious person, and much less an unbiassed one"
DeaDTerra: No I do not know what language it was writen in
DeaDTerra: I helped with IPOs, and idea + documents
DeaDTerra: I had nothing to do with the development team
mircea_popescu: i think it's maybe time this soupy chummyness comes to an end.
mircea_popescu: 1. everyone is friends with everyone, covers up for people, then we end up shakaru'd.
mircea_popescu: 2. everyone's involvement is unclear especialyl as to limits till the point something goes wrong.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 500 @ 0.1 = 50 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: DeaDTerra: if the code is worth anything and you guys wan someone else to finish it up, I can probably help (I am not a programmer) to get it cleaned up
mircea_popescu: people should prolly draw much sharper and clearer boundries
DeaDTerra: I am quite pissed at JRO, as he promised me that he would fix this, all of this. Both ZIP.A and Rebate were to be paid back or the service were to go up and start generating profit. So I bought him time and what does he give me, more silence and bullshit. sigh...
usagi: EskimoBob no offense but you should be kept far away from production code
EskimoBob: I am not a programmer, dip shit :)
usagi: I have a way of knowing such things.
DeaDTerra: He said that he has investors coming into 20Missions and that he would set his development team on fixing the project. I believed him for the first couple of weeks.
usagi: JRO will not be very happy if his info gets posted on the bitcoin credit agency
DeaDTerra: since then I have been pushing for a wrap up/buy back of this whole thing but as he's very very slow at getting back if he gets back to you at all that is, it's very hard to negotiate.
DeaDTerra: I have tried to get contact with him, as he plans to run Bitcoin related projects in the future. It will not work out unless he cleans this mess up
mircea_popescu: "his development team". sigh. there's not five developers half competent into bitcoin atm, what "team" ?
usagi: If you have a team you are probably incompetent hehe
usagi: I don't see the need for a team
DeaDTerra: Eric,vlad,alberto is those I know of that has worked on his projects.
usagi: the bitcoin billionaire guy.
mircea_popescu: usagi many of hte better services were in fact a single man endeavour or close thereby, like say bitcoincharts.
DeaDTerra: Yes it was stupid to believe him, but he's very convincing plus when you have a lot at stake your brain wants to believe whats being promised.
kakobrekla: wait what, marachenko is invlolved here?
mircea_popescu: and this misplaced loyalty creating a fog around things is very detrimental to business and the btc.
DeaDTerra: Vlad worked on kronos, and I think he was on the development team
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: Well having that said it's not like I had a tin foil hat on me saying he's going to do this and this because he said so. I questioned him and tried to get him on the correct path several times.
DeaDTerra: I might be wrong xD this is all from my memory, let me check the skype log
EskimoBob: sure - lets another man and a dog develop something and when he gets "sick" and walks... you have a assload of broken code :)
DeaDTerra: nvm I am going to stop name dropping it was months ago, I can't remember
DeaDTerra: Tbh this is how I think the whole rebate thing went down
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.86 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.3795 = 0.759 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 4 @ 0.3799 = 1.5196 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 8 @ 0.38 = 3.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 10 @ 0.39 = 3.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 12 @ 0.39 = 4.68 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 14 @ 0.3999999 = 5.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 100 @ 0.4 = 40 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 10 @ 0.4139 = 4.139 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: JRO planned to help Alberto develop it and he planned to make sure it was profitable and went sucessful. But after the IPO he and alberto had a conflict and JRO dissapread for a long time. A couple of weeks in fact. Then he comes back he has moved on to 20Misisons and Kronos, and now avoids Rebate etc. So I think he originally planned to run it but hen jumped off after the fight with
DeaDTerra: Now the question is wheres the rest of the money from the IPO
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.469 = 0.938 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10526 @ 0.00111986 = 11.7876 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7900 @ 0.00110266 = 8.711 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1574 @ 0.00109258 = 1.7197 BTC [-]
usagi: This is why I *always* put arbitration agreements in contracts
mircea_popescu: usagi contracts are kinda useless in start-ups in my experience.
usagi: I hope you have learned to do the same from now on, DT :)
mircea_popescu: they're like marriage contracts. start-ups work when the people are having not sex-sex, but start-up sex.
DeaDTerra: Eric and Vladimir are -working- on Kronos,
usagi: I have no soul. Sorry, can't follow
mircea_popescu: usagi just saying, if people have a falling out contracts don't help at this level.
DeaDTerra: If JRO doesn't respond soon then I will go through all skype convo I have ever been in with him and release all the relevant info
DeaDTerra: all his projects, all his secrets, all his new and up and coming once as well.
DeaDTerra: Though first I want Nefario to call him repeated times, so it's obvious he's not planning on taking responsibility
usagi: F. DISPUTE RESOLUTION
usagi: 1. Any controversy or claim arising out of or relating to this
usagi: contract, or the breach of this contract, shall be settled
usagi: by binding internet arbitration at judge.me in accordance
usagi: with the judge.me arbitration agreement. The arbitrator's
usagi: decision shall be final and legally binding and judgment may
usagi: be entered thereon.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00035218 = 0.7396 BTC [-]
usagi: I guarantee you I would go after someone that did that to me if they signed a contract like that
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.465 BTC [-]
usagi: So we get a judgement
usagi: and we take his car
usagi: These are serious contracts
mircea_popescu: it still won't fix the company. so you get a car. big deal. you weren't into this to get a car.
mircea_popescu: there;'s a reason start-ups rarely sue founders, even in sv.
usagi: Well I am not connected to this really
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.15439999 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: any news from nefario? When will he fix the exchange?
DeaDTerra: hm wait seems like I have gotten a message from JRO
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 4 @ 0.469 = 1.876 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: was that a surprise to you?
DeaDTerra: hm, why has this not been posted online. And does Nefario have this hmm
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4379 @ 0.00109258 = 4.7844 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4891 @ 0.001091 = 5.3361 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5088 @ 0.00109056 = 5.5488 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.15439999 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: Dude this is scary i remember reading this, but I can't remember when, I must have been so fuckign tired xD
DeaDTerra: hm that was probably the night I was up to 4am trying to fic this whole thing. Can't post this online unfortunatly, though if Nefario doesn't have it I should send it to him
usagi: Why can't you post it?
Diablo-D3: theres less than 20k shares to go for asicminer
DeaDTerra: to summarize, he explains the situation out of his eyes, what happened etc. Then he says he has been busy working on some other projects which I am not sure if I can mention and 20Misisons. To be able to settle his debt.
DeaDTerra: I'm actively seeking the assistance of a few friends and past associates to raise the money needed to retire the BitcoinRebate debacle, and retire all GLBSE obligations. Since Alberto (Bit Day Trade) has no assets remaining, or intent to pay, I'm on the hook entirely to retire all GLBSE obligations. I accept this, and I will sell my good kidney (if need be) to make that happen.
DeaDTerra: In the meantime, I've been working hard to make a real world retail digital currency exchange happen in San Francisco, which would be a prime customer of the ZipConf back end - i.e. multi market, unified orderbook and best price discovery, for the purpose of buying and selling bitcoin, with an eye toward providing other digital currencies (Linden Dollars, In game currencies) in the
DeaDTerra: To everyone who's affected: I'm incredibly embarassed, and I'm deeply sorry. I still have hope for the future. I can't be certain that it will work out for the best, but I'm going to continue to try until my last breath.
usagi: Ahh so the money is gone.
DeaDTerra: i think hes planning on buying back
DeaDTerra: he just needs time to raise capital, but then again why has he not responded to Nefario
DeaDTerra: anyways, I think I am just going to stop talking about this xD, half of the time I remember incorectly and the other half I don't remember at all :P
DeaDTerra: In case of a JRO default I will post all relevent logs on the forums so you can see for yourself if not then, I am very happy that things could work out.
mircea_popescu: usagi you're prolly on solid ground to mark the respective lines as a complete loss in your book
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 19 @ 0.17 = 3.23 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 11 @ 0.00997999 = 0.1098 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 180 @ 0.31492428 = 56.6864 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 1.0363 = 4.1452 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 1.0362 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 30 @ 0.0999 = 2.997 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 14 @ 1.18 = 16.52 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 163 @ 0.1 = 16.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 20 @ 1 = 20 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 5 @ 0.4381 = 2.1905 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 100 @ 1 = 100 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 441 @ 0.1 = 44.1 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: jro taking the money and running? if only saw that coming...
Chaang-Noi: i posted in the thread about jro and matthew doing this stuff months ago
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 1.1323 = 4.5292 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 1.1322 = 4.5288 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 12 @ 1.13121001 = 13.5745 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: me and one other guy saw this all coming together way before and had some inside info
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: but, its bad for to call a scammer a scammer before he scams :/ people get upset
Chaang-Noi: anyway there have been massive logs taken and this guy was being tracked months ago
Chaang-Noi: mathew w is involved in helping set up the scam and take a cut
Chaang-Noi: i mean i said giving him loans was not a great idea
DeaDTerra: I said I was not going to comment again, but yea don't judge just yet.
Chaang-Noi: iv been up for 30 hours after driving back and was up a mountian yester day, no the day before, got tossed off a atv coming down the mountian yesterday
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i think he means the matthew n wright nut with the bitcoin magazine
Chaang-Noi: we have been looking into him and his family for a few months now
Chaang-Noi: the guy who helped sell the bitcoinica stuff and took the $11,000
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: even though the books were cooked... and then deleated :/
Chaang-Noi: once i found out what jro and matthew was involved in i pulled out and advized aginst it
Chaang-Noi: im glad this shit will finaly kill matthews rep
kakobrekla: one cannot be too careful these days, even otc ratings mean little
Chaang-Noi: i dont have the link but in the thread mathew admits to being paid buy jro and what not
Chaang-Noi: deadt might know better, he posted in it and i think even started it
mircea_popescu: course i could point out that mpoe-pr was trashing him back in whenever, march
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 1.0363 = 4.1452 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 9 @ 1.0362 = 9.3258 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 19 @ 1.031 = 19.589 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 6 @ 1.025 = 6.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 44 @ 1.021 = 44.924 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 1.13121 = 4.5248 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 29 @ 1.13111 = 32.8022 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 83 @ 1 = 83 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: what was it called, the bitcoindaytrade how was that spelt?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 9 @ 1.099 = 9.891 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44600 @ 0.00035218 = 15.7072 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: okay I have gotten some updates regarding JRO
Chaang-Noi: there is other stuff scattered but im not in the mood to track it all down
DeaDTerra: he he's seriously sick, like he has to lay in bed sick. That's why he has not responded, he's working towards raising capital to settle his debts and to close down all assets. He's goal is to do it within the next 2-3 days
mircea_popescu: so mnw is involved in bitcoinica, with some dubious "personal loans" (says zhou) "line of credit" (says he) and also in zip/rebate/icehill ?
mircea_popescu: you should have asked about jared kenna back then Chaang-Noi
Chaang-Noi: matthew the clown took loans unrelated to bitcoinica too
Chaang-Noi: related to the mag and to the hand held crap he is try to make
mircea_popescu: i'd guess he's trying to make ends meet on his magazine venture.
Chaang-Noi: well maybe so, but getting people to trust him on fail sucker deals is a bad way to publish a mag
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.1047 = 0.9423 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 2 @ 1.18 = 2.36 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: jro's "magic" looks more to be a scam pimped by matthew more than ever :/ but atleast he will get well and solve everything in a few days lol
mircea_popescu: it's sad, at this rate glbse will have to get a whole new design and launch 3.0
mircea_popescu: otherwise it becomes more and more glaring how no offerings there are older than six months.
Chaang-Noi: there is only a hand full of people from 1.0 who made it to 2.0 and will make it to 3.0 ....
Chaang-Noi: teek was on 1.0 who else is still around?
DeaDTerra: I actually joined in before TyGrr came to 1.0 xD
DeaDTerra: I was there back when LIF was traded
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9731 @ 0.00035218 = 3.4271 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9869 @ 0.00036042 = 3.557 BTC [+]
usagi: Someone was trying to sell sensodyne on the glbse??
mircea_popescu: no i was just saying, lif and this other failed mining venture
Chaang-Noi: i mean who had an asset on glbse 1.0 that did not turn out to be a scammer other than teek and myself, im sure there must be others
Chaang-Noi: only teek and i were not scammers and still have assets? thats a shockinly high fail rate :/
Chaang-Noi: glad there was morethan 2 still around
DeaDTerra: can't think of any else that's actually still alove
mircea_popescu: ColdHardMetal most irl startups fail somewhat differently from the preferred modes of btcland
mircea_popescu: the last start-up to fail cause of owner getting sick was Apple, Inc.
mircea_popescu: took > 30 years and you can still get out at a sane discount.
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 2 @ 1.065 = 2.13 BTC [-]
paladon: in 20 minutes dividend payout of PGM, still some shares for sale
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 6 @ 1.069 = 6.414 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 1 @ 1.07 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.15439999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 24 @ 0.00920001 = 0.2208 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6200 @ 0.00111814 = 6.9325 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.15439999 = 0.3088 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JTME] 1 @ 0.9997 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JTME] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [JTME] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 50 @ 1 = 50 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4313 @ 0.0011304 = 4.8754 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3942 @ 0.001135 = 4.4742 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3945 @ 0.00113801 = 4.4894 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 20 @ 0.125 = 2.5 BTC
teek: ohh mann glbse is slow as molasses today
JWU42: yep - just signed on for first time in a few days
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [+]
JWU42: I have all but given up on glbse weeks ago
JWU42: if you have to ask...
JWU42: it is a heaping pile of crap
BTC-Mining: I always get almost instant support...
BTC-Mining: Well, relatively to most services, not instant litteraly
JWU42: 25 BTC is too costly for me - even before the price of BTC doubled
dub: the difficulty in using mpex means few investors
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 10 @ 0.125 = 1.25 BTC
JWU42: with stable Btc price these investments were more intriguing - much less so now
teek: Chaang-Noi whats the 3rd option
mircea_popescu: but then again... it pays for support. and for a site that's not down. or slow.
mircea_popescu: and if you trade 2.5k btc total you'll actually make it back.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 1.1399 = 5.6995 BTC [+]
dub: Chaang-Noi: who is behind cryptostocks?
Chaang-Noi: vericruz or that one exchange i was told
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.1 = 1 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 1 @ 0.125 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 455 @ 0.00113801 = 0.5178 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1045 @ 0.00114078 = 1.1921 BTC [+]
dub: if its nothing at all like vircurex it might have potential
mircea_popescu: i dont think it's possible to make a login based exchange.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 100 @ 0.00011485 = 0.0115 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 7 @ 0.00011485 = 0.0008 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 50 @ 0.00011485 = 0.0057 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 99 @ 0.102746 = 10.1719 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 3 @ 1.492 = 4.476 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 2 @ 1.44 = 2.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 2 @ 1.421 = 2.842 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 3 @ 1.39 = 4.17 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 5 @ 0.3799 = 1.8995 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.15439999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 24 @ 0.0092 = 0.2208 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 3 @ 0.1 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 50 @ 0.1 = 5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 929 @ 0.0035 = 3.2515 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 3 @ 1.094 = 3.282 BTC [-]