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jurov: my brain is shutting down, too late
jurov: no it was 0.1->1.5 btc that's "lessthan 4000" with win odds of 6.1% ...still
jurov: winning 0.1->12.5 btc is equivalent to "lessthan 512" with win odds of 0.7813%
smickles: last i checked i had less than 5
mircea_popescu: but if you apply l'hospital you can calculate the odds
mircea_popescu: well you see, the house edge is just 1% or so
jurov: what are the odds to turn 0.1 btc into a lunch three times in row?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i don't think there's any bug, just variance.
jurov: or if rg's broken arithmetic is paying him lunches, i wanna some too
jurov: so this is what i have. or am i really a conspiration nut?
jurov: right below that is link to "shareholders on welfare" article that is dated October 22
smickles: was this b/f or after rg learned simple arithmetic </jk>
jurov: dunno which day that was, should be sometime in october
jurov: <rg> [21:13:48] and turn it into 1.5
jurov: <rg> [21:13:44] i take like .1 btc
jurov: <rg> [21:13:39] that's what i use satoshidice for now
jurov: <rg> [21:13:00] it was meant to send me .8 btc if it was a winner
jurov: <rg> [21:12:37] hm i think satoshidice just messed up
smickles: heh, scumbag memory, well, if you do come across something like a money losing bug, i'd like to know :)
jurov: scumbag memory. there isn't anyhing in logs.
jurov: dunno. my memory tries to convince me there was some sd leak last month
smickles: 'cause i don't think that bug cost them any money
smickles: jurov: are you talking about the delay payment of winnings bug?
smickles: didn't it lose (hundreds|thousands) each month for a couple of months straight at the beginning?
smickles: seems to me that this recent dividend shows it's all going according to plan
jurov: mircea, i remember rg boasting he is getting some bitcoins off sd that shouldn't be there
jurov: no, there was a bug
FabianB: too many ppl won at s.dice this month?
jurov: he should made a raffle for that 1 satoshi
mircea_popescu: there's no practical way to do better than that tho, so.
mircea_popescu: if you had enough shares to qualify you got one (or more) else you got nothing
mircea_popescu: so we talked and he sent 100. 94 of these were actually distributed, 6 were lost in rounding
mircea_popescu: jurov here's the whole story :
jurov: mircea_popescu, just to nitpick, who got the recent s.dice dividend ? it wasn't exactly divisible number :)
mircea_popescu: ;;rate patrickharnett -10 Scammer of the Peter Lambert school. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915
mircea_popescu: myeah. kakobrekla you'll have to make an answer to that thing, it's ruining you.
jurov: but i did not suspect such wholesale scam, then
jurov: since he wasn't able to clearly explain me here how can one trade currencies with pure BTC balance and without need for any hedging, maybe you remember
jurov: i wasn't going to invest there anyway
mircea_popescu: this has all the makings of adventure
jurov: dunno, maybe they rolled 'em together with carpet and hauled away, ya know
smickles: rolling of the floor?
jurov: that was the reply
jurov: <kakobrekla> [00:14:01] i showed that posts to my superior, teh boss, he was rolling of the floor.
jurov: and I put myself the FSA Registration# from bit4x site into FSA form and it was assigned to some other company that went defunct in 2004
smickles_: < jurov> so, did kakobrekla at least to try to shed some light on the accusations somehow? <<< whatnow?
jurov: so, did kakobrekla at least to try to shed some light on the accusations somehow?
kakobrekla: zomg teh interface http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq2devvvyrg&feature=youtu.be
mircea_popescu: but the big problem is usually the lobby stuff
FabianB_: standards bodies are usually too slow
mircea_popescu: yeah. anyway the only one with a prayer given that there's no standards body and compliance is voluntary
mircea_popescu: "have to have at least this much"
FabianB_: earlier protocols like smtp were(are) very easy to use for humans too
FabianB_: wondering if there are papers on designing protocols for both computers/humans
mircea_popescu: that's not forbidden. but it would be weird to require exchanges to accept both json and xml imput
mircea_popescu: FabianB_ moreover, the spec is not restrictive. some exchange might decide to implement STATXML too
FabianB_: well, yeah, by hand it's nicer than json
thestringpuller: that the corporate world put on us
mircea_popescu: many of those commands are being issued by hand
FabianB_: even if with so few commands and payload it's easy to parse |foo|bar|baz
FabianB_: just doesn't seem polished enough to qualify as standard yet
FabianB_: yeah, am fine with this being mpex protocol
mircea_popescu: otherwise this exists as internal stuff for about a year now
mircea_popescu: well yes, since it was being discussed on the forum i wrote up a proposal
FabianB_: mircea_popescu: why are you standardising now that you start using json with one returning json and all other non-json?
dub: which can be applied to 'act of stupidity causes loss'
Chaang-Noi: same with intersango and their bitcoinica stuff
Chaang-Noi: it is hard for me to think he acidently so much
Chaang-Noi: with nefario it is really hard to dell the differance between criminal and just being so fucking retarded...
mircea_popescu: and telling people about how mpex is a scam.
dub: thats where netardio was building the future of bitcoin right?
PsychoticBoy: should have kicked some guys in the nuts when I had the chance in London
gribble: DeadTerra was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <DeaDTerra> but I agree there are to much drama and BS
mircea_popescu: seems that way
jurov: 17 Feb 2004 Final Dissolution Notice.. so venetfx's FSA number is completely fake, too
jurov: it belongs to some completely different entity with defunct website, dates of registration 2001 and 2003
jurov: tried to research venetfx's FSA registration #194835
thestringpuller: some guy on the forums said he'd promise to buy btc's at 11 back in july
jurov: but then, what's your point?
jurov: oh i misunderstood you. i thought you're talking that "FIX also encloses numbers in quotes"
mircea_popescu: that 75 ? that's a string.
mircea_popescu: The FIX Protocol has two syntaxes:
mircea_popescu: eh wtf they changed it ?!
jurov: mircea_popescu, i just did random research and it appears not true
mircea_popescu: jurov : did you know the FIX protocol also uses string representations of integers btw ?
kakobreklaaa: oh another of those kako is scam days
kakobreklaaa: what is this milk friday or what
jurov: interesting that practically everyone who wants to sell s.mpoe put the order below 0.0005
thestringpuller: i wrote unit tests...
jurov: am i the only one in this whole mess who has unit tests AND audit script to backward-verify the balances?
Diablo-D3: a payout script like that would take three seconds to do
thestringpuller: the halloween futures changed the market conditions yesterday
thestringpuller: bitcoin friday is gonna cause the price to skyrocket
thestringpuller: everyone lost money then
mircea_popescu: realyl, the only month it lost money was the pirate august thing.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: if the annual gains out pace the annual losses wouldnt it be a net gain? so the bot breaks even annually?
mircea_popescu: i used to think the mpcd series was, but that blew up.
mircea_popescu: well, mpoe bonds can make a loss, so they're not really safe in that sense.
thestringpuller: and the last bond i bought defaulted because people are idiots
thestringpuller: there are no treasury bonds (which are garbage anyways)