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Namjies: If his script checked only for
that, even if
they were not duplicates,
the script might have excluded you from lists.
mircea_popescu: so he... fucked up
the unfucking up of
the multipay fuckup ?
Namjies: Technically, I can't make
the difference between shares owned in each account.
They're aggregated as one in my list.
Namjies: That could explain
the screw up.
The only asset list I know I'm included on is my own lists.
Namjies: When Nefario generated
the lists, he probably excluded
those who received more
than one payment.
Diablo-D3: but Ive gotten paid out on all
three accounts
Namjies: We received 1 payment for
the balance of each payment account... so multiple payments...
Namjies: It seems some who were not on
the lists are issuers like me and smickles or Diablo-D3 (with subaccounts).
Namjies: mircea_popescu, I
think I'm noticing a
trend.
Namjies: There's no
token/code/anything
gigavps: i guess
this is
to be expected
gigavps: hmmm, i feel like he's
trying
to stir
the pot
gigavps: mircea_popescu bitcoin oz seems
to have an affinity for you
smickles: b/c pseudo is
too big of a prefix
smickles: mircea_popescu: yeah, kinda makes you wonder why anyone
thinks it's a significant part of
the economy
mircea_popescu: and why has
the press settled on "semi-anonymous"
to describe bitcoin
jurov: don't know, never
tried
jurov: with all
these discussions maybe we'll see MPOE-PR starting penis drawing contest on btctalk
mircea_popescu: i have no idea what
they do buyt i hope it fails miserably.
mircea_popescu: you have got
to be a
total fuckwit
to even attempt "moderating" penis doodles.
dub: Kurisu: My judgement on
these
types of situations is poor. (laughs)
dub: Kato: Kurisu-san suggested we study different
types of penises in order
to create figure out
the relative shape and size people would draw. We spent a week doing
that before we realized
that we should have been looking at drawings of penises rather
than real-life pictures. (laughs) We were very embarrassed about
that.
dub: I like
to draw
them where I can
smickles: Ukto: i was
talking about s.dice
tho
smickles: no shareholder info here yet for
the
two
things i expect
to get it for
Ukto: Namjies: did nefario not include his little custom identification "codes"/tokens per share holder in
the yaml file he sent out? just email/payment_address/shares ?
jurov: waiting for
the gap
to open
jurov: scaring
the markets after several months hiatus :P
Namjies: If you're not offering
top dollars,
they'll wait for
the next person
to come around.
Namjies: They'll
try
to milk you if
they know you want it.
Namjies: Basically, as soon as you inquire about a domain/website, be sure
to receive a "feel free
to offer" or a 50x inflated price.
Namjies: No,
they wait for
that 500 000$ offer.
They're still in
the dotcom bubble.
Namjies: [15:47] <mircea_popescu> random owners of random abandoned/burried websites need
to learn
that if anyone asks "how much for
the site" bs replies a la "we're open
to offers" do not work.
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 12.44999, Best ask: 12.45000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last
trade: 12.44999, 24 hour volume: 22381.31642394, 24 hour low: 12.25000, 24 hour high: 12.45000, 24 hour vwap: 12.35589
mircea_popescu: there's fifty million just like
them.
there's maybe five people in
the market. maybe.
mircea_popescu: random owners of random abandoned/burried websites need
to learn
that if anyone asks "how much for
the site" bs replies a la "we're open
to offers" do not work.
Namjies: Well does it really make a difference? Other
than persons are more careful of what
they say when
they can be seen...
Namjies: I argued a bit
too much maybe.
Namjies: I know who you're referring
to...
Namjies: Ah yes... well I suppose someone making an agreement he cannot honor afterward (for whichever reasons, even if forced not
to honor it) could be considered as a scam, somehow...
mircea_popescu: apparently badbear is saying gigavps should get scammer
tag ?
mircea_popescu: well... need a powerful sales
type for a joint venture
jurov: and latest
trades in
the bottom
too
jurov: mircea, look
to
the orders
table, not
to graph
EskimoBob: this is called stoneware (high
temperature fire)
mircea_popescu: or maybe i am one of
those for whom lawyers usually work.
EskimoBob: you do not understand it because you do not see
the big picture, mircea_popescu
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: lawyers are
the scumbags who have made sure no normal person can survive
the fkn
traps
they have woven. What a "wonderful" system
to make sure
the big Co's get what
they want and common people get fucked left ans right.
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if
the western world is made of no citizens.
mircea_popescu: in
the end, remarkable how low reputations lawyers enjoy with
the general public, and how little consideration or indeed knowledge
the latter has about legal process.
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3:
this is one more point if failure?
Diablo-D3: so you'd need a client
that spoke both bitcoin and exchangecoin
Diablo-D3: and encrypt
them using
the exchangecoin address private key
EskimoBob: to prevent scams, you need
to elleminate humans
Diablo-D3: store
the wallet.dat private keys in
the exchangecoin chain
EskimoBob: preventing scams is close
to impossible unless you want
to run SEC
type of outfit and basically go back
to shit BTC is
trying
to rid us all
EskimoBob: but before
the frontend, it needs direct connection
to btc/ltc/ppc blockchain so you can pay for your
trades and not buysome intermediate crap
Diablo-D3: but it only prevents
the exchange from running away with your shit
EskimoBob: all
the "servers"
that host securities can connect
to
that "frontend"
EskimoBob: I love
the idea but I do not see (at
the moment) how it can help
EskimoBob: Chaang-Noi: OT will not fix
this problem actually :(
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: I
think
that's a good idea, unless you actually need 10K
Diablo-D3: and
then pgp sign
them using a single use key and
then bury
the key
Diablo-D3: the only
thing
that I can figure out
that works is like 5 or 10 year OID non-callable bond
Diablo-D3: I want something
that actually works for investing and isnt a fucking failtrain like every exchange ever
Diablo-D3: well, Im
trying
to plan out DMC 2.0 here
gigavps: i'm
trying
to pay people, not sure what else
there is
to say
gigavps: what do i need
to chime in on?
Chaang-Noi: im shocked you are even
trying
to fix
this mess.
Chaang-Noi: maybe scammer, maybe
the did not give back a double payment, maybe nefario is fucking around or gave you some other list... who knows.
gigavps: i've already
talked with one of
them and
they aren't even on
the list
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: what Im
thinking is sell like every 10k of bonds for ~7835
Chaang-Noi: i wonder
the IQ level of
the average bitcoiner at
times...
Chaang-Noi: no, im just shocked at how stupid some of
the people are who are bitching in your
thread...
Chaang-Noi: i do understand about
the apostile
thing... i cant do
that in
thailand, we dont have
them :/
Chaang-Noi: giga seems
to be going out of his way
to help
Chaang-Noi: i wonder if giga might be getting himself into more
trouble by
trying
to help
Chaang-Noi: giga is not a victim in my mind, only
the people who
trusted nefario, if i was giga i would say, im not a broker, glbse was, go deal with
them...
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: not only
that, do
they understand giga was fucked here?
Chaang-Noi: im reading
the giga
thread and loling and
the guys saying
they will file criminal charges aginst giga... do
these guys not understand
that
they have no proof of ownership and only nefario has it?
copumpkin: I wouldn't say
trust is as much of an issue.
The
thing about a perpetuity is
that
the later payments are effectively meaningless