asciilifeform: ( why should 8GB of 'drepper-os' or winblowz get 8GB of sram ? it'd be rather a penicillin for a corpse )
asciilifeform: could even say that erry piece of soft gets the irons that it deserves.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you can still buy all the 1980s-style srams (incl. rad-hard) you like, 128kB 10ns chip is about 4bux. these suffice for the icbms and wherever else folx actually care about bits staying put. what no one makes is sram that'd fit the bloat of 'modern' pc os etc.
asciilifeform: cuz britneykonsoomer dun need it for anyffin.
asciilifeform: there's nothing physically impossible or even especially difficult about making gigantic sram -- you simply need 6 transistors for erry 1 that'd be in the dram yer replacing. simply, no one does.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i actually went through coupla hundred datashits in late '17, for various srams. after rejecting various 'pseudo' (i.e. internally dram, with built-in refresher) , left with buncha items, typically <=64MB, where in small print, if you actually use it as random access (i.e. not in long burst) it runs at 1995 speeds (7-15ns typically access)
asciilifeform: even if doesn't interrupt a burst, still leaks 'fact of'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it makes sense, if it can't correct in O(1) cuz it has to interrupt a burst (all dram since mid-90s runs in long bursts much of the time, typically fill 1 or moar cache lines) then leaks via time.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dug into this last yr, it is worse than uninitiated can picture, nobody's even making reasonably-sized sram (deliberately not counting here various 'pseudo-s' etc abominations)
asciilifeform still doesn't grasp why is it that no one sells mobos where can use redundant (majoritated, rather than failover, the latter is dime a dozen) banks of ram.
asciilifeform: on the surface, seems to use the ecc corrector delay as sidechan
asciilifeform: also claims to work on ecc boxen, but asciilifeform not read $item yet and has nfi how substantial is claim
asciilifeform: incidentally the 'troo penguin' would imho be the ideal logo bird for linux
asciilifeform: hey, spark of life left, e.g., ibm, 50y ago, still zombies on as 'hedge fund'. or for that matter, roman church, 1000y
asciilifeform: i never saw it other than as fragmented fossils.
asciilifeform: very briefly in late 'vhs' era there was such sea of usg money that a select few folx managed to embezzle a little and do something substantial. but all evaporated, or, worse, relabeled with 'correctly aryan' names
asciilifeform: ftr i associate mit et al with (not only the infamous lightbulb) but the freak show described upstack, rather than with 'great researchers'
asciilifeform: there's little enuff left that it takes serious archaeology to even show that it was there, aha
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, pretty much whole selling point by nao of the diploma, 'buy this here lottery ticket for cubanism'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect no later than '80s, and ~errybody involved prolly dead by nao of cirrhosis / joe stack / despair.
asciilifeform: afaik no great biznis stars graduated from this, but Any Day Nao lol
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: laff, but they opened a 'biznis cs' dept, for folx who ~can't count.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik there aint even a wet stain left, of these pretensions, today
asciilifeform: but may as well have been in time of atlantis, for all it matters nao
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at one pt thse people had pretentions, to being 'applied maffs'
asciilifeform: asciilifeform out of school was dumb, from chumpatronic pov, as a sack of rocks, got conned into designing for these people a certain iron part, ~in off hours~ from cleaning ducts. it was, as i understand, put into production, with a mit grad's name attached.
asciilifeform: was a sort of usg in-miniature (unsurprising, perhaps, for it was a quite typical '90% of revenue is from usg' software circus )
asciilifeform: owner of the co, had one, and thought it was what distinguished man from animal
asciilifeform: was funny place, they had an inner core of people who 'research', supported by the salt mine contracts worked by the plebes. but to be in the 'research' clique, was apparently (unofficially) necessary to have 'mit' diploma.
asciilifeform: ( eventually demoted to pulling cable an' cleaning ducts, then sacked. )
asciilifeform: ftr asciilifeform when graduated did not become gruppenfuhrer at microgoogle. instead did coupla yrs of hard time in a java saltmine.
asciilifeform: point is, most of the folx in the room were already there on acct of thinking uni was a somehow classier 'trade school' for programmer
asciilifeform: or what was it instead of chromism, i dun recall
asciilifeform: diana_coman: we had a (and 1 of the moar intelligent...) profs , who tried to 'drum up morale' by telling 'success stories', e.g. 'didja hear of bob, he's a gruppenfuhrer at microshit nao!' 'joe from last year is head of chromism at google' etc
asciilifeform: diana_coman: rright, simply must point out, asciilifeform's experience with 'troo 1333337' schools is quite limited, pretty much 100% from archaeology, rather than own skin
asciilifeform did, however, go to a 'by exam, 2 dozen bodies to 1 spot' high school, but it was in usa, and full of... i guess modern-day ameri-equiv. of komosomol. disgusting 'climber' types. 'young republicans'(tm) etc
asciilifeform never attended a 'for only royalty' school , and cannot comment re 'not for-everyone'
asciilifeform: the type of person who thrives in reich academia, is ye olde 'beetle man'.
asciilifeform: all the ones i recall from early 2000s, gone nao☟︎
asciilifeform: not only this, but they're as wanted by the brass as fox in chickenhouse.
asciilifeform: we had ~same type of profs here, with very few (~100% emigre) exceptions, i imagine much fewer exceptions than at diana_coman's uni. y'know the type, that reacts to 'made to think' same way as mcd clerk to being asked to make exact change
asciilifeform: diana_coman: lol, what didja do, submit exam answer in asm ?
asciilifeform: 'in learning the names of ptolemy's spheres'!1111
asciilifeform: inca fears p2p radio like the proverbial vampire -- crucifix. i'm actually surprised somewhat, that 'ricochet' was even permitted to be built as it were
asciilifeform: i dun know specifically why 'musted die', but in general usg favours the old telecom monopolies; plus prolly didn't help that 'ricochet' did not build gps into the modems and made it possible to pass packets directly over the mesh, i.e. 'potentially terrorist' net
asciilifeform: tbf not exactly new idea, various usgisms used as early as '80s
asciilifeform: ( previously had similar 'feature', but required net connection for victi^H^H^H^Hcustomer )
asciilifeform: being pushed as 'find my stolen irons' 'feature'
asciilifeform: on top of this (and, uncharacteristically, is hyped 'feature', rather than seekrit 'nobus') the boxen no longer 'off' if there are any joules left in battery; nao serve 24/7 to relay gps coords from neighbouring crappletrons (both running and 'off') on the off-chance that someone didn't plug in a nic etc
asciilifeform: thing actually does a deedbot-style rng turd decrypt/confirm when pressed
asciilifeform: to add to this already tall pile o'lulz, per crapple, epoxy aint enuff , power switch (deliberately flimsy) nao includes a cr50-style rsa ic, and not replaceable w/out Official Blessing from vendor (and for good measure, epoxied into the lump)
