asciilifeform: i just said above: you put it in the .patches dir. and its seal, in your .seals

asciilifeform: afterwards you can add wires or whichever other experimental knobs, to the vtree, and rebuild.

asciilifeform: if you haven't yet tried mod6's buildtron, run it per the recipe literally first, it will not rebuild the deps every time, is reasonably clever

asciilifeform: the vpatch will go in your .patches, where everything from genesis onwards lives

asciilifeform: nope, the .asc thing is just for the tarballs for deps (bdb and other horrors)

asciilifeform: ( i introduced it on feb. 23 )

asciilifeform: and at any rate happened after mod6's 'makefiles' release.

asciilifeform: nope, wires are currently filed under 'experimental'

asciilifeform: and i whined about it here

asciilifeform: nope, that part is current

asciilifeform: to which can apply the wires patch.

asciilifeform: btw it gets you the 'makefiles' vtree

asciilifeform: http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html <<

asciilifeform: mod6's fully automatic build system ☟︎

asciilifeform: about a year iirc.

asciilifeform: indeed

asciilifeform: (it vflows directly from mod6's 'makefiles' milestone)

asciilifeform: it is on the ml, and also visible in phf's thing, http://btcbase.org/patches/asciilifeform_wires_rev1

asciilifeform: or you mean the vpatch

asciilifeform: linked just above

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: are you making a slave, or slave+master, or which

asciilifeform: if not, gotta do that 1st.

asciilifeform: this presupposes that you have a trb+wires built

asciilifeform: and say if any of the steps dun make sense

asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-February/000252.html << start with this recipe

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and yes, they are shipping as soon as crate of rng lids (due in today) is here.

asciilifeform: i'm familiar with the usage, but it was a cache miss, been eons since i saw someone referred to as 'tourist'

asciilifeform: meanwhile in the test room, 'Serial correlation coefficient is 0.000000 (totally uncorrelated = 0.0).' << i had nfi this was possible

asciilifeform: so now i cannot say 'eh nobody emailed'

asciilifeform: at one time i found a reply from al 'uncle al' schwartz that sat in a spam queue for (yes) several years

asciilifeform: incidentally i finally agree with mircea_popescu : email dunwork

asciilifeform: tourist?

asciilifeform: !!up adlai

asciilifeform: !$ ssh 109.242.75.252

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: got it

asciilifeform: ( if the cards look somewhat familiar to readers, it is because they are physically standard 'vme', as also seen on certain sun and other large machines of the period )

asciilifeform: https://www.okqubit.net/symbolics << other photos from same, he has same memory, i/o, etc. as my unit.

asciilifeform: https://www.okqubit.net/symbolics/dsc05367.jpg << not my photo, but i have this type

asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform also has a ~working~ 3620 but it is useless for phf's purpose , it was implemented as massive pile of ttl and a few ~dozen~ gate arrays )

asciilifeform: asciilifeform bought a massive pile of dead sbmx iron many years ago. thought that somewhere in it is $part. turns out 0.

asciilifeform: 'hissy fit' was about something entirely else ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu never thought he had $object in treasure chest and then discovered that not ?

asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/UXoWH/?raw=true

asciilifeform: !!up euloraplayer

asciilifeform: !~later tell phf i dug out my crate of dead bolix boards, turns out i'm a chump, the pcb in question was a dead xl1200 ~i/o~ board. the only cpu on it is what looks like a z80! 0 smbx silicon. ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: updated again.

asciilifeform: and distinguishes it from literally every other rng in existence .

asciilifeform: Framedragger: the auditability is the entire point of FUCKGOATS.

asciilifeform: where you actually determine that the cpld follows the claimed logic.

asciilifeform: Framedragger: these are just basic tests. and distinct from the proper audit described in earlier text

asciilifeform: it shat orc glyphs into the ascii.

asciilifeform: i made the mistake of editing the text on a crapple shitintosh

asciilifeform: fixed.

asciilifeform boils with hatred

asciilifeform: ow fuck, html mutilation of the commands

asciilifeform: (scroll to end)

asciilifeform: http://nosuchlabs.com UPDATED!

asciilifeform: they're going out this week.

asciilifeform currently occupied with printing FUCKGOATS manuals, colour laser

asciilifeform: lolk

asciilifeform: Framedragger: you have a probe nao ?

asciilifeform: Framedragger: ah lol

asciilifeform: lol!!

asciilifeform: fake_space_whale: http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic

asciilifeform: !!up fake_space_whale

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-12#1626220 << that thing requires prb to work ☝︎

asciilifeform: tell me o wise men.

asciilifeform: or 278 !!!

asciilifeform: why never 239

asciilifeform: whywhywhy.

asciilifeform: 240 244 245 246 248 249 250 251 252 255 256 257 258 260 264 265 268 272 273 276

asciilifeform: sed -n -e 's/^.*Ping timeout: //p' trilema.log | sort | uniq | cut -c1-3 | tr '\n' ' '

asciilifeform: http://lurkmore.so/images/b/b9/Kim_chen_zavod.jpg << in other lelz

asciilifeform: ^ is this funny only to asciilifeform

asciilifeform: http://lurkmore.so/images/7/78/Matchast%27.JPG << see also!

asciilifeform: literally, 'material part', that is, of the immutable physical pieces of a problem.

asciilifeform: we have a w0rd for it

asciilifeform: ^ what mircea_popescu referred to as 'tanks part'

asciilifeform: !#s матчасть

asciilifeform: aaaah we had this thread!!

asciilifeform: how does aiming the rifle differ, other than timewise, from designing a house that you then build with own hands

asciilifeform: aite, i'm all ears

asciilifeform: butno srsly i have nfi what mircea_popescu meant here.

asciilifeform: can i use 'i didn't imagine that's what you mean' in the phrase table, or has mircea_popescu trademarked !

asciilifeform: y'know, i could write an eliza that 'wins' arguments this way

asciilifeform: presumably you could just as readily be involved in the felling of trees, mixing of cement, whatever else goes into building house.

asciilifeform: or so i read from 'im involved in the aiming'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu does not picture building the house with own hands

asciilifeform: i suspect that we've unearthed the point of disagreement here

asciilifeform: how does aiming the rifle differ from drawing up a house, other than time parameter ?

asciilifeform: but not 'i draw up a house and expect that the floor will hold my 48 pianos' ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu would not structure phrase, e.g., 'when i aim the rifle and pull trigger i expect to hit the target' ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu seems to think that 'expect' means 'unfoundedly expect'

asciilifeform: and of the gadget, to shit forth rngolade , rather than malodorously combusting

asciilifeform: you expect the floor to stay put when the piano is brought into the house.

asciilifeform: and you could smell it.

asciilifeform: well in the particular example given, failure would have become apparent within a millisecond or so

asciilifeform: the expectation is that the capacity of the reg is > the current drain. of the floor in a house > the pianos. etc

asciilifeform: but not 'an expectation.' ? why the word substitution .