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Anduck: what makes you
trustful?
mircea_popescu: as
to smickles i never met him irl but he's been my broker for a while and upstanding.
mircea_popescu: none of
these actually ever did what
they were supposed
to.
the bmf
thing never had actual mining gear, for isntance.
mircea_popescu: Anduck he had a miningthing (bmf), an insurance
thing (cpa) and a braindamaged cdo
thing (nyan series)
mircea_popescu: you're probably looking at more drama
than it's worth.
Ukto: i cant find a detailed
thread
Ukto: rather
than all exchanges
turning him down
Ukto: If he's listng just
to liquidate, (he is already offered
to pay
the listing fee
to use
the service so meh), but.. even if its liquidation, at least it will help
the community get something back
Ukto: as soon as I find
the
thread ill
tell you :P
Anduck: where
the asset invested?
Ukto: why bother relisting
then?
Ukto: and wrote he is
trying
to make good on BMF
Ukto: he doesnt even have a scammer
tag (yet)
Ukto: does he have plans
to pay back?
Ukto: he hasasked
to list BMF on BF
mircea_popescu: apparently
they've
taken egold and added some ponzi
to
the mix.
mircea_popescu: "eNumbered is
the choice of Occupy, Anonymous and Silk Road users." << ahaha people are seriously retarded enough
to
think
this is a selling point ?
jurov: so you'll change last name
to mircea
too?
mircea_popescu: and we could have babies and name
them all mircea mircea
markedathome: though i am getting annoyed with electrum - what is it with "developers" using glorified
text files as a database?
gribble: rg was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 14 hours, 9 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <rg> good
times
EskimoBob: it's actually getting better, slowly, but still better
than July/August
mircea_popescu: and
then
took
that leverage and did a 5:1 on
top of it at bitcoinica
mircea_popescu: basically, he was
trading 20k of OPM on
the strenght of 180 of his own
markedathome: um... "there are 20161 19980 BTC missing (edit: I subtracted my funds
that also were deposited on Bitmarket), and Bitcoinica claims
total for around 50K USD"
Graet: um yeah, i misunderstood
too, was looking in forum for your announce mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: but you know... i was here before pirate. some people preferred bitcoinica
to mpoe.
those people got screwed. it was a choice
tho wasn't it.
mircea_popescu: what is with
this expectation! it's getting ridiculous
sgnb: mircea_popescu: you lost BTC because of bitmarket.eu? is
there any public announcement of issues on
their side?
mircea_popescu: the exchange market is going out of
the "we can do anything" phase,
there's no room left for one man and his hopes operations. which means pretty much all
the extant ones will close down, and likely miost of
them will close down ugly.
mircea_popescu: and
tbh i
think keeping money in anything other
than mtgox and
those frenchypoofs with
the eu partnership is at
this point cruising for a bruising.
mircea_popescu: Unfortunately, I have very bad news. I cannot currently proccess your withdrawals.
The situation is very complicated and it's all my fault,
that's why I feel
terrible about it. I
tried
to make
this up,
to keep
the site afloat and somehow recover
the funds, but it's not possible anymore. Right now
there are 1786 BTC pending withdrawal, which I can't honor...
mod6: check
that out later when your velocity is lower.
mod6: there is a bitcoin price widget
too for android.
smickles: thestringpuller: ya know, rather
than doing multiple ;;tickers, if all you want is up
to date exchange rates, /j #bitcoin-market
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 13.58001, Best ask: 13.59900, Bid-ask spread: 0.01899, Last
trade: 13.59890, 24 hour volume: 37146.18653791, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.54030
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 13.57214, Best ask: 13.59090, Bid-ask spread: 0.01876, Last
trade: 13.57214, 24 hour volume: 37126.85270592, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.53985
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 13.58001, Best ask: 13.63999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05998, Last
trade: 13.56001, 24 hour volume: 36180.25779632, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.52947
jurov: yeah, i'd be rather be fucking with something else, but
that will be,
too.
jurov: so you meant it
the other way around? me going
to
the bank, offering interface
to
that mpex
thing?
mircea_popescu: they have no way of knowing you exist, not like socgen
trolls irc
jurov: really, if a bank approached me for
that..
that would blow me off
jurov: nobody wants
teh codez. cheapskates.
jurov: yes, just
that code
that can "reasonably assume" it is far from
trivial.
smickles: it seems, i'll stat, order, stat for diff untill i can reasonably assume
that it was fully filled
mod6: mircea_popescu: i agree. If I was
there in
the pits and my client called me
to place a market order immediately and i was being front run by an algo, i'd go banananas.
mircea_popescu: the
twitter
to assbot latency is larger
than
the mpex.co
to order queue latency by a degree of magnitude
mircea_popescu: <mod6> it may possibly be
the only real market in
the world, even guys in nyc or chicago
trading pits have
to combat
these HFTs <<< i know. atm i actually do have an edge over nyse/etc.
jurov: yes! it shows in statjson in only 2
to 20 seconds !
mircea_popescu: <jurov> no,
the slow order placing/cancellation << order placing isn't slow ?
jurov: ah,
then okay. but you still have
to filter
txs from previous orders.
smickles: jurov: I know, but I'll be putting only one order up at a
time, so if anything shows up with
that mpsic,
that's it
jurov: cause if half
the order gets executed, only other half get an ID
jurov: smickles, what i'm
trying
to explain, you have
to account for
transactions
smickles: mircea_popescu: would you not like it if I had a ~500 iteration loop which called statjson until it saw
the order pop up, if at
the end of
the 500 iteration it haddn't, it would just assume it got executed?
jurov: cue
that boromir meme "you don't simply fetch order number in mpex"
smickles: well, damn, i don't
think I can put off order number fetching any longer
mod6: it may possibly be
the only real market in
the world, even guys in nyc or chicago
trading pits have
to combat
these HFTs
mod6: everything
that can be done
to preserve
the organic market of mpex should be
mod6: that article on ZH really blew my mind. i'd be like fuck it. market
tis brok3d.
mod6: because i don't want
to fight a fucking bot
to place an order
jurov: no,
the slow order placing/cancellation
smickles: isn't
that how hft makes most of its money?
jurov: incidentally, i just met a friend who want
to do hft bot
smickles: bah, i would be satisfied with buying mpbor, but I suspect
the
thing i'm writing will be more profitabled
mircea_popescu: i mean... it'd be in any case more effiicent
to place limited
time orders given
that
the bot knows how often it runs
mod6: or is
that different?
smickles: mircea_popescu:
this is why mpoebot places orders for limited
time, isn't it
jurov: and *then* matche
the order with
the list
smickles: I wonder if i can get away with a 'cancel
the order
that looks sorta-kinda like <this>' function
jurov: mod6, you have
to gather
transactions, subtract
them from
the order you placed if
they match
mod6: My original plan here was just
to display
the order id's
through
the JSONSTAT
mircea_popescu: and as
the entire
thing is stateless
the only
thing you can do is examine
the state later