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Bugpowder: "MtGox’s estimated gross monthly revenue of 3-4`000 BTC stands up some months
to S.MPOE’s."
jurov: smickles,
that was Q for me? i was only half-serious, don't intend such loans atm. but we'll see
Bugpowder: hence if current -> 0, puts go
to infinity
Bugpowder: arent
the puts valued at (strike-current)/current
smickles: wouldn't it make sense for lenders
to build upon it somehow?
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder
the needed capital is equal
to
the bot's maximal exposure during
the month
mircea_popescu: but anyway, more in general about mpbor : it's kinda intended as
this hook for people
to build stuff on. i dunno exactly what
they'd build,
Bugpowder: and as
the bids fill on
the bot, more capital is accepted?
mircea_popescu: each month all bonds are sorted by
their interest rate like in a normal auction
smickles: jurov: you should do
the rate based on what mpbor returns less
the principal return
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder all deposits over 100 btc are accepted.
they only count
towards a month's capital needs if
they make
the cut
jurov: but if it's really going
to get 25%..
that will be
tough
mircea_popescu: smickles
they can for
their own account funding, but not for bonds
mircea_popescu: and yes, all bond deposits go
to
the bond address so people can see what's being deposited during each month.
jurov: in fact, last
time i requested such loan, usagi accused me
that i do it only cause i want some movement
to show on
the graphs
Bugpowder: Req 4800 BTC
to buy
thru
the annoying wall
jurov: argh,
these steady
trades against
the wall unnerve me
jurov: haha yes blockchain.info readily identifies you
there
smickles: clearly, i'm not a high roller, as shown by
the
tags sending
to
that addy
smickles: jurov: I dunno, also, i
think 'high rollers' can request a unique addy
jurov: btw, one can have a peek
to 1JPvucRfu3ZzEvfBUQTJwsxMrZjeTqD6zR as
to how much capital was provided by bondholders. but requested rates are between
them and mircea.
smickles: I would venture
to guess
that it does influence
the margin cost somehow
too
jurov: yes, but it is computed every month in
the end when options expire and
then not used for anything else?
smickles: I know it's at least used
to determin how much of
the mpoebot profits go
to
the bondholders, and how much of
their principal is returned
to
them if
they bid
too high
Bugpowder: MPBOR valid 30 November
through 28 December: 9.9%.
jurov: neither
their requested rates
Bugpowder: I just didn't look hard for
the info
Bugpowder: I was
talking about for
the current month
jurov: Bugpowder, you are deducting
that from MPBOR announced
there? but on december 29
there will be different rate announced
Bugpowder: I bet bondholders get
the full 9.9%
Bugpowder: Price has been pretty stable, so I
think MPOE is going
to do very well
smickles: jurov: dividends will be returned
to me, payment can be at
the end if you want, or in daily installments
jurov: and do you want interest every day or in
the end?
jurov: should i return
them
to you?
jurov: btw, what about
the dividends?
smickles: kk, I'm usually on at several points in
the day any way, I'll make my presence known :)
jurov: i'll be most of
the day, best evening UTC
jurov: okay. we'll see
tomorrow
smickles: I
think I could do
that, my
terms are 0.2% per day, one interest payment minimum
jurov: smickles, i seriously consider lending some s.mpoe
tomorrow, will you be
there?
smickles: do you
think
there has been an increase in
the amount of btc from
the bondholders
this month?
Bugpowder: well 110,000 contracts
traded
this month
jurov: and
that will be in 14hours
smickles: it's not released until settlement of
the options
smickles: thestringpuller: suppose people are buying it now expecting a large dividend,
then receive next
to nothing b/c
the bondholders
took it all
smickles: also, anyone whant
to short s.mpoe?
smickles: well, unless
the capital requirement is low
this month
Bugpowder: what do you really
think
the bond rate will be?
kakobrekla: oh and if anyone else is interested, kv1 is open for deposits
till
the 31st, 100btc min
jurov: i remember you making some mpbor-related
threats
to mircea
jurov: so you did pull
these 25%
this month?
Bugpowder: Do we know
the yield on
the MPOE bonds
this month?
Bugpowder: So who wants
to bet on
the S.MPOE dividend
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pigeons: i meant
the aryans
that control
the greys
smickles: < pigeons> jews/aliens/gays <
they're all reptoids anyway :|
plate: but
that's just
the real formula
plate: Kosher Coke is good
tho
plate: The jews always have
their hands in everything
pigeons: and
that is what we eat
today
pigeons: A&P supermarket had a contest and
the winner geneticly modified
the hen
to not have bloody meat so
the jewish customers would eat it
pigeons: actually
the native species of pigeon
to north america went extinct cause it was overhunted overeaten,
then when it was gone people settled for chicken
bonafide: I saw something on American Greed where some guy conned multi-millions from people by pitching
the ideas
that pigeons would soon replace chicken
Bugpowder: actually send
to 1TBZjmXho6mdGhoESaMV2svtqJXYtWfEp
smickles: also, dev on v2 of
the protocol
smickles: it helps pay for
the costs of running
the wot
smickles: send btc
there, it will help
the wot
bonafide: Obama does nothing for
the dollar
smickles: bad idea, obama is jesus, so nothing bad will happen
to usd
Bugpowder: I
think
the verdict will be reduced
bonafide: I could stay long, but I like
taking nice gains and reposition on
the pullback
Bugpowder: thestringpuller what is
the evidence?
bonafide: but
they don't get into office
to actually set policy