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Framedragger: asciilifeform: re openpgp format: wait a sec, doesn'tt the 'packet' (as they are called there it seems) containing user info have to be signed or sth?
Twix: i think my bouncer remembered i joined a while ago
trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-strike-idUSKCN0Z306L << and lately USG helps Al Qaeda / ISIS to what end? presumably to light a fire all along the southern border of Russia.
trinque: doesn't really count as a plan, but it's sanity
mircea_popescu: o wait, we have a breaking ethereum update :
asciilifeform: it's a gag
trinque: we're gonna build a wall.. a great wall... so great
asciilifeform: trinque: the last time they elected a fella who actually thought the buttons were connected, they had to shoot him later
mircea_popescu: trinque ~nothing he's said makes any sense in any actual perspective. the man's a walking soundbite.
trinque: I don't think he's a puppet; I think he's the spray-tanned caricature of something better cultures produce
trinque: I see him more like the guy who, guts hanging out after a grenade, tries as he might to stuff them back in.
mircea_popescu: guy is ~a bankrupt tv star, "all his money" stuff is bs. he's poor as a church mouse, all his capital is imagologic.
mircea_popescu: there's a very simple choice, "push buttons connected to nothing in particular in the hopes that time machine activates and it's 1992 all over again" vs "push buttons connected to nothing in particular in the hopes that something burns down".
mircea_popescu: this election's gonna be a total bloodbath.
asciilifeform: 'I'd like to ask specifically about Fare's criticism of large jets. Since it's highly unlikely that the Hoon implementation is bug-for-bug compatible with the native markdown parser, is including that parser in a jet an "unprincipled exception" to Urbit's vision of deterministic functional purity? An even better example is the possible future inclusion of a native JS or Lua interpreter... V8 in particular is a massive project that ro
asciilifeform: 'For example, I would love to offer my own children a filtered Internet experience where I owned and controlled the filter. Ideally, that would mean an MITM proxy running on my own cloud server. I would not trust anyone else to MITM me or my children, but I feel quite comfortable MITMing my 8-year-old daughter. So that's another long-term use case.' << also mr mold
asciilifeform: 'Urbit has a strict membership code. No pedos and no Nazis. And especially no pedonazis.'
asciilifeform: a washington metro pass in moscow ? etc
mircea_popescu: except there's no 2% here, i would be much surprised if a fiat dollar is worth a turkey cent.
asciilifeform: sorta like that famous (in certain circles) case where u.s. mint 'sold' crates of coins, at face value, and folks bought'em, putting it on a cc with 2% cashback, and loop
mircea_popescu: and which, as an end game, i'm perfectly fine with. who the fuck cares the soviets don't like living in the best countryt in the world. a) i told them to leave and b) if they deserved any better they'd shoot the gestapo.
mircea_popescu: the ~only solution is, obviously, a withdrawal of the usg inside its borders. which has been happening and is accelerating.
mircea_popescu: the "convertibility" of 1:1 turkey dollars to fiat dollars is a very expensive proposition.
asciilifeform: my understanding is that turner is living in a mental 1950s when he thinks he can pick up red phone, united fruit style, and call us marine corps.
mircea_popescu: this allows mp to turkey-ize the fake dollars, by denying a market to the usg agentura.
asciilifeform: ^ not that it was ever a secret, was announced quite clearly on day1
mircea_popescu: ere BOTH turner and popescu have 100 : in the second situation, turner doesn't stand a chance.
mircea_popescu: and to best understand HOW the turkeyization works, consider the case of argentina, wherein exist both an old cuckold by the name turner as well as a young rapist by the name popescu. now, for whatever imponderable cargo cult reasons (see http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/ for discussion), the local cunts want "dollars". there's a huge difference between situation 1, where turner has 100, and situation 2, wh
asciilifeform: 'We'll announce specifics of a crowdsale soon, so I'm gonna dodge just a little. (Honestly, we're still deciding exactly how to do it). I can say, the idea is to sell a small number of stars and to cap the total number anyone can buy.' << finally the altcoin sc4mz0r motive.
asciilifeform: in urbit's case, usg (in its andreessen horowitz face) is paying to keep a dozen bois fed ('press the clown face for a food pellet') and housed (subsidies to silicon valley land racket.) so about 1/1000th of a google.
mircea_popescu: this is currently, and for as long as it'll last, a black hole in the usg budget to parallel the f-35 airplane-coffeemaker-submarine combo.
asciilifeform: that's the key here, fiatola is ~= a superconductor.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform usg.mit a further 20mn in the hole. an' the volume keeps on growing lolz.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: last i heard (but this was years ago) he had some sweatshop with a buncha college dudes.
asciilifeform: 'Urbit has a very good profiler (language integration makes up for a lot of elbow grease), and our attempts to squeeze out performance are usually successful. In extremis, anything can be jetted and probably will.' << yarvin
mircea_popescu: wait, urbit has a core team ?
phf: took me a while to figure out why my pgp key doesn't decrypt
asciilifeform: (laziness in resource-impoverished environment is adaptive. i could've sworn we did a thread re this...)
mircea_popescu: which is exactly like "unjust enrichment" case in common law. "i gave youy a broken woman turns out she wasn't broken you owe me"
asciilifeform: if everybody knows the fella just wanted a bride, why would father pay ransom
mircea_popescu: these resulted in 1) 0 police interventions ; 2) 0 victims ; 3) a few dozen marriages
mircea_popescu: (for a very good reason : you need someone to get the money together)
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 17:23 mircea_popescu: and the fucking examples are from colombia and whatnot. tell you what, newspapers here were full of some woman who ran a parillada (cheaapo restaurant) who had her kid kidnapped which the newspapers related to her "flashing lots of money" and "publicly declaring she's making asd much as 10-15k pesos a month" (about $800)
mircea_popescu: kidnapping is intrinsically a marriage arrangement / property settlement / revenue allocation device all in one.
asciilifeform: so what's a toyota kidnapping look like.
mircea_popescu: (fwiw, aston martin sells about half a bil a year, but w/e)
asciilifeform: unless i catastrophically misunderstand, proper kidnapping is intrinsically 'luxury vehicle', like a submarine or dirigible.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you read an article about "vehicles" that strictly discussed am i would say the AUTHOR is a pissant not worth the mention. which is what i;m saying here also.
asciilifeform: yeah it looks somewhat like the 'nsa codename generator' from a few yrs back
asciilifeform: "100 of instances worth 30mn a year" << is also, iirc, about same as the market of aston-martin. will say that a-m is also insignificant pissant unworthy of mention ?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 17:19 fromphuctor: So pasting in a bare modulus would be the easiest, and GPG and SSH would just be fancyness to make the website easy to use
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-17#1484076 << see the logs, this is covered, we even made a new tmsr standard for rsa. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's gunk from end to end, i'd rather "read" the excrement found in a bona fide chicken coop.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: alludes to a largely undocumented insurance chumpatron of unknown size, hence link.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it's a fundamental behaviour at the intersextion of sexuality, property and generational change. so... whatevs.
mircea_popescu: now then : it's a major anthropological tradition, with millions of instances yearly and no dollar value, because the dollar is a meaningless measure of value.
mircea_popescu: traditionally marriage started with kidnapping a woman, much like rome started with borrowed sabines and all flocks of sheep ever started from the neighbour's sheep.
mircea_popescu: and the fucking examples are from colombia and whatnot. tell you what, newspapers here were full of some woman who ran a parillada (cheaapo restaurant) who had her kid kidnapped which the newspapers related to her "flashing lots of money" and "publicly declaring she's making asd much as 10-15k pesos a month" (about $800) ☟︎
fromphuctor: Looks like it's going to take me a while to get up to speed on pgp. Is there even a way to minimally wrap an RSA public key without entering name and info fields?
mircea_popescu: the other piece is fucking ridicuouls, "100 of instances worth 30mn a year" is ~the global market of nose hair salons.
fromphuctor: So pasting in a bare modulus would be the easiest, and GPG and SSH would just be fancyness to make the website easy to use ☟︎
asciilifeform: fromphuctor: this is in the works. (it will take a while, because it makes the thing roughly 2x more complicated)
fromphuctor: I'd rather know what the format is and assemble the bits in linqpad, if anyone has a reference lying around. Can't seem to find it quickly via google.
asciilifeform: fromphuctor: contact jurov, he has a tool for this
fromphuctor: I have a bunch of RSA moduli I'd like to test. The phuctor entry page says it requires GPG public keys. How do I format them as GPG keys?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you got a ~57% chance of eating crow come december you know.
mircea_popescu: with any luck after he does that he could maybe get a job consulting for the clinton she-slug
mircea_popescu: mno, it was ripple v2.0, "usg must have a horse in the race".
asciilifeform: i read eth as a standard altcoin scam. 'i'll take your btc, and you can have this magical thing'
mircea_popescu: anyway. hopefully they don't get spooked and do as you say. end up paying the market cap out of pocket a dozen times over the next coupla years, one for each consecutive hole.
asciilifeform: thing was a scheme for snarfing up btc.
asciilifeform: i doubt they'll pay a cent.
mircea_popescu: in the sense ubuntu is linux and systemd a demon
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: it is a kind of poor man's irc. has centralized logs, bots, etc. for money.
thestringpuller: Slack is IRC when you slap a bunch fo Javascript and CSS on it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, /me loves how teh usg is spending its crap fiat to try and prop up a crap altcoin.
asciilifeform: the slack in question might be a proprietary chat proggy
thestringpuller: anyone making a killing on shorting eth/dao today?
thestringpuller: 2/2 - I'd be VERY interested to know the identify of anyone coordinating an effort to oppose a hardfork. PM me stephan@slock.it ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "Stephan Tual is the Founder and COO of Slock.it. Previously CCO for the Ethereum project, Stephan has three startups under his belt and brings 20 years of enterprise IT experience to the Slock.it project. Before discovering the Blockchain, Stephan held CTO positions at leading data analytics companies in London with clients including VISA Europe and BP." <<< schmuck who wrote a blogpost so fucking dumb, it took me 10 minute
asciilifeform: for a headless horseman, he gallops pretty well.
BingoBoingo: To be fair Trey has a long way to go before fully Cartman
mircea_popescu: no idea how this constitutes a defense, but each his own
mircea_popescu: apparently they went to a different kindergarten than yours.
mircea_popescu: they have a slide deck for how they wanted ethershitium to work, also.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform slide deck doth not a client make.
asciilifeform: slide deck leaked a few months ago.
mircea_popescu: "let us apply the experience of mit-genius rockheadboy. mongoloids have things to say about theatre! they learned a lot of valuable insights in the sanitarium!"
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: recall (this is in the logs) mit has a remote-updated-blacklist gavinatronic client ready to roll
asciilifeform: literally a bladder in which to temporarily store printolade while it cools down ?
asciilifeform: so they built a 'fed' ?!
asciilifeform: 'So there is a recursive payout 'problem'? No there isn't. It was all in the specification. When the DAO was fund raising, it was explicit that the only thing that mattered was the DAO's contract code. Nothing else should be taken as being reliable. Well, the contract code is still operating exactly as it was specified. A 'hacker' is merely using the code in ways that were there to see, should anyone have looked. How can they be stea
thestringpuller: its slightly terrifying the amount of people willing to sign a contract before reading it.
asciilifeform: but it's a hindbrain thing, like seeing car labeled 'polizei' in germany
asciilifeform: the nazi one, naturally, that i was regaled with tales of as a boy
asciilifeform: btw asciilifeform has a sort of hindbrain reaction to 'seguranca', hearing it woke me up with a sweat on the airplane that one time...
mircea_popescu: maybe worth a qntra. kinda tenuous, but w/e.
shinohai: Today is a good day.
shinohai: "Vitalik tries to switch ethereum to PoV (proof-of-vitalik) in an attempt to save a sinking DAO"
Valfor: I just found myself looking through a list of goetic demons via wiki-page jumping at the time I happened tob e looking for a new nick