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mircea_popescu: i don't recall exactly how it was done ; but all trilema was google indexed.
asciilifeform: hm was it ? will have to take a look, how this worked
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: could, but then also would lose the lulz where sad-rsa victims see their name in google outputs
mircea_popescu: how'd you get the 10gb figure ?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:16 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, "but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max" << on what basis ? deductive approach from lack of experience ?
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-18#358110 << 100 accounts at 10gb, leaves 35 gb for l1/2 shell users on a 1.7 tb machine
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you could of course put in ye olde mp-wp page limiter, and give all the boecks a very sad surprise.
asciilifeform: if other folx have thought re subj -- plox to write in. ☟︎
asciilifeform: thought in asciilifeform's mind was, it's a quite expensive item, and got to at least gedankenexperiment re offsetting some of its cost.
mircea_popescu: not everything has to be monetized. though of course considering how you'd do it is just about mandatory.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:50 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, phuctor is kinda deliberately designed to not be a "only us" item. so what can you do.
asciilifeform: upstack -- i'm inclined to agree with mircea_popescu , in re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815209 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i thought he was just done explaining how he didn't like surprises. wanna go for a round yourself ?
asciilifeform: picture, for instance, the poor mikrotik boxes , for which no fewer than 3 remote-root orifices were published in recent yrs (~on top~ of their phuctoring)
asciilifeform: i'd be surprised if there were any popsicles left to pinch
mircea_popescu: imo the former is a bad move. the 2nd is nb, but meh. someone will go steal someone's popsicle and random posturing dork will go "conspiracy!!!" and i won't care but you'll have to either shoot a "judge" or talk to him.
asciilifeform: but currently not clear to asciilifeform whether 'game is worth the candles'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for thread-completeness, my other notions in re 'for subscribers of phuctor' were , in no particular order : earlier access to new pops (after queue is ready, conceivably give subscribers day, week, etc head start ) ; ability to download generated ~privkeys~ for Fully Phuctored mods , in various formats ; full-text search ; built-in converters ( your item, but it is on the for-everybody conveyor for a while nao )
mod6: oh yeah, i gotta get some extra sleep tonight before i do something dumb. like type my root password in here.
mircea_popescu: if only artists weren't thoroughly illiterate, we could like, have one.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:36 mod6: BingoBoingo: bud, you need your own place to hang your hat, you're a Lord of the Republic, not a random street orc.
mircea_popescu: mod6, you gotta sleep enough. it's of the same ilk as http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815080 exactly. the hovel may seem livable ; but it is not. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, phuctor is kinda deliberately designed to not be a "only us" item. so what can you do. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:32 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815103 << understand though that the only reason they're surprising is because they weren't handled either properly or in time. there's a lot of leeway in how surprising the sort of predictable surprises are, by being what's called "proactive"
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815181 << it occurs to me that my statmens re surprises are unwarrented. i had only remembered the 1BTC in feb of 19, i somehow entirely forgot the other 7500 a part. so wasn't a surprise, just something that i somehow blocked out. ☝︎
mod6: i think so too.
asciilifeform: mod6: lel, iirc mircea_popescu was in his 6+-piece, but i suspect that his is refrigerated, like cosmonaut's
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:28 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815092 << you didn't even give him a workorder yet (as you don't evne have a sales plan yet) and you want to add incentives to it ? kinda ass-backwards!
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815174 << yeah, pretty much. just chuckin out possibilities as I hadn't contemplated the matter much. obv. ☝︎
mod6: sooo hot in there, omg. mod6 in a three-piece and a 40lb backpack.
asciilifeform: lol it was moar like a reasonable simulacrum of a crowded subway train, with 'club' lights and a few ceremonial fixtures largely for show..
mircea_popescu: mod6, we were talkign about the cocks being sucked in corners bdsm club thing.
asciilifeform: mod6: right, yes! for part of the time , there was
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mthreat was there too with some girlies neh ? << chetty too
asciilifeform: i was thinking that ideally it'd be something that cannot be supplied by anybody who isn't actually running whole thing (i.e. anyone not us)
mircea_popescu: but generally it's not "things you couldn't do at home" ; but "things you can't be arsed to do at home"
asciilifeform: rright but even nao people can add these, i posted converter ( and jurov earlier posted )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, the ssh key thing. "pay some dough, have the capacity to add ssh keys"
asciilifeform: while we're on subj : mircea_popescu can you think of anything that would conceivably make sense in a 'private api' for paid subscribers, in phuctor ?
asciilifeform: mod6, ben_vulpes : maybe odd q, but do we have a pizarro logotype ? i'd like something in the vein of http://nosuchlabs.com/fg/snsa.jpg to put below same on phuctor www
mircea_popescu: ie, don't discover that a guy who's there at your pleasure is sitting on arms all day long contemplating roaches climb the walls because ~i point it out~, don't be surprised by the attentand morale issues.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 22:46 mod6: So my willingness to keep putting money into this is contingent on whether or not we can even reach profitibility. Which we'll never get there if "raises" and other "surpises" keep coming ujp.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815103 << understand though that the only reason they're surprising is because they weren't handled either properly or in time. there's a lot of leeway in how surprising the sort of predictable surprises are, by being what's called "proactive" ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: well some are better at pickups than others!!!
mircea_popescu: mthreat was there too with some girlies neh ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, "but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max" << on what basis ? deductive approach from lack of experience ?
asciilifeform: iirc there were : mircea_popescu , hanbot , mike_c , davout, asciilifeform , mod6 , ben_vulpes
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:43 mod6: Yeah, maybe we could commit to some amount now, then build in a bouns structure for sales met or something.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815092 << you didn't even give him a workorder yet (as you don't evne have a sales plan yet) and you want to add incentives to it ? kinda ass-backwards! ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:39 mod6: there's a guy we know in BSAS who can hook you up with a cage and whipping post/cross thing too if you need 'em.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815086 << oh, mod6 was at the fabled conference when we went to the club, wasn't he! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 23:28 asciilifeform: achtung phuctor readers! about to remove 676 spurious factors ( they equal their moduli, and are factors of no others) from the db; these crept in in late 2016
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 23:33 asciilifeform: aaalso about to do a primality walk, where (ditto from corner case) a prime p is known where m/p is a prime q but q was not registered.
asciilifeform: meanwhile : achtung phuctor readers : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815117 is finished, transforming e.g. https://archive.li/s5G5m into https://archive.li/4kMpY , bringing us up to , funnily enuff, ~same count of factors as prior to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815114 operation. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: aaanyway, not to extend this cheese omlet too much : it's not the end of the world if shared webhosting remains a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-03#1808132 item strictly. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: well, so they'll fuck people's public_html for them, it's how "don;'t take over box plox" works.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: indeed they do, it's how the ddosproofing thing works.
mircea_popescu: same thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, they fuck your dns zones for you.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:37 BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: help me enumerate these costs? A substantial guarentee upfront (3-6 months rent) and then furnishing the apartment.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815082 << i was able to find (after A LOT of expert searching, it is true) furnished apts conveniently located for all the girls ; didn't end up paying much of anything upfrtont either (they wanted a month's rent, i was paying quarterly anyway, so it sorta went away). gotta talk to "the people" (=dueno) though, "agencies" aren't so useful. but there's a 5% of the population that makes ends m ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nfs ? they dun write html for you or anything of the kind, it's simply an ultraminimal hoster thing (somewhere between vps and plain unixhosting , hard to classify into 1 of the traditional categories)
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:36 mod6: BingoBoingo: bud, you need your own place to hang your hat, you're a Lord of the Republic, not a random street orc.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815080 << i'm very much of the same mind ; people get used to untenable situations and tend to extend them past due date. but this hostel thing has outlived its utility. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: consider how fiercely loyal alf is to that dumbass outfit, nfw or w/e it's called. it's over something like this.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, well, depends what they want. but basically.
ben_vulpes: are there other things besides wordpress that fit the bill for this kind of thing?
ben_vulpes: i can see it opening up the altcoinist scam market for least-effort websites
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-18 00:24 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814909 << one possible way out of the conundrum is to offer "website design" saas and not even allow box login to the customers.
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-18#358067 << this is something like "a wordpress and you're welcome"?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:33 mod6: Everyone wins: BB gets his raise, and 1 BTC end of feb 2019, and we get to hang on to a bit of cash for the summer to help ouselves out.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:16 ben_vulpes: sure, but i'm talking about quality of existence here. own place to shit, own food prep area, not having to constantly piss on preferred chairs. it buys security for effects, and calm of mind that i think BingoBoingo underestimates (unless he is a very different animal from what i imagine)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815045 << the make food area incidentally is easy to misjudge. it'll make a world of difference, both in qol and what that qol costs, once you get a proper kitchen going. ideally with womanly help as i dunno you're that competent. have bread going every other day, have a pot of soup always, the good old strictures of european ie civilised life. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i can see the point, too, "i am so many years old and not getting younger ; if i sit and twiddle my thumbs in this jungle rather than some other jungle it'd better not be just so i end up 40 something and asked "Кто..." and not have an answer"
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 20:56 BingoBoingo: mod6: Well pizarro got billed for the dentist. The doctor is out of my pocket. Part of the idea is getting these things off of Pizarro's line and into my own.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815021 << consider the http://trilema.com/2011/mami-trimite-urgent-de-mincare/#selection-25.584-25.736 classic ; this situation whereby one's paying x with the money for y and y with the ... etc etc is dubious in a 20something girl and unseemly in a 30something man. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 20:52 ben_vulpes: mod6: doesn't really make a difference to the books, a liability is a liability. it's going to show up on the balance sheet regardless.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815013 << check him out, he understands finance. yes mod6 , once a liability is entered the exact disbursal schedule is relatively a minor point. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i know a bunch of people tried this, some of which managed to bootstrap themselves into middle class existences (from humble orc nobodyhood) ; but plenty failing miserably.
mircea_popescu: sorta premium-shared, catering to what most "non-technical" people actually want from a website.
mircea_popescu: their only relation to their shared server is a box where they explain to you what they want done.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 19:21 ben_vulpes: the active filtering i'd like to put in is either a regular set of eyeballs (BingoBoingo's, or the mentioned-tangentially sales guy to hire) on the "design" corners of these hosting forums to pm our ads for shells on the shared server to folks who are building websites directly
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814909 << one possible way out of the conundrum is to offer "website design" saas and not even allow box login to the customers. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ie, you can have the sale-on-ocmission thing mechanized to some degree.
mircea_popescu: well since you're building lists : there's a thing the heeathens have, which intermediates action sales. "clickbank" or somesuch.
BingoBoingo: Well, yeah. The natural contents of the message would be "Hey, you have an interesting public key. Who is your daddy and what did he teach you?"
asciilifeform: the interesting bit is that he could not have used stock gpg ( which won't crank out anything bigger than 8kbit )
asciilifeform: ( why did asciilifeform even pull it out ? it came up in the 'candidates for wiener attack' probe )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Today is a day of cleaning where it was settled that whiteboard is practically an L1 (and aspiring L2) essential. Happy festivus.
asciilifeform: but ty BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: not so much 'congrats', this was a disgraceful eggog that sat for waay too long
asciilifeform: aaaand they're gone.
asciilifeform: this should make the displayed results 100% free of wtf.
asciilifeform: aaalso about to do a primality walk, where (ditto from corner case) a prime p is known where m/p is a prime q but q was not registered. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ^ from 2018 ! ( asciilifeform very recently fixed the corner case in bernstein which permitted this kind of thing )
asciilifeform: achtung phuctor readers! about to remove 676 spurious factors ( they equal their moduli, and are factors of no others) from the db; these crept in in late 2016 ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i disqualified some others for ~zero activity in the past two years, but haven't ruled out hostsearch or warriorforum yet
ben_vulpes: great, i mentioned hostingdiscussion.com , webhostingtalk.com, forums.hostsearch.com to you, also warriorforum.com from mircea_popescu's mentions once upon a time. i'll dig up some others as well.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I will start that, also inquire about setting up a corporation, and register accounts on the filter feeding forums so they can start getting some age.
ben_vulpes: true of everything in this world