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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "can't possibly mean" is totally
a thing.
Framedragger: 1. all turtles are green. 2. bob is
a turtle. 3. bob is red. => spit out contradiction / choice of rejecting one of these. if additional premises are made which connect to the former ones, then decide which to reject quantitatively, or something.
mircea_popescu: because the major trick here is - what i say isn't ACTUALLY ambiguous. it just requires very fine interpretation, which meshes well with
a machine. in any case meshes well with the epistemic process that makes people engineers,
Framedragger: ..some kind of generic knowledge tree processing thing / semantic systems. someone must have made
a small stab at this.. i mean there are natural language processing toolkits which build up context and work beyond straightforward syntax.. i don't know how well they are doing
Framedragger: yeah that's
a different point, sure, and
a good one it seems
mircea_popescu: when i teach my not-so-new-anymore slavegirls how to think,
a large chunk consists of "interpreting what is said" which all revolves around "build tree of all possible meanings, prune all meanings contradicted".
mircea_popescu: that's kind-of
a different level though. what does it even mean "to fail".
mircea_popescu: if
a software project did as much importing as the average trilema article does, it'd be openssh.
mircea_popescu: which allows me to say intelligent things in such
a way that pyramids many sayings deep can be effortlessly constructed, retain meaning and even nurture new meaning, and in general have all the attributes of art.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok, the "fucking hell who ever heard of
a program that wants you to specify what you don't know" essay. i recall it, and imo it is very much substantial to my complaint.
mircea_popescu: actually, ima have to translate this. will put on trilema in
a second. also gotta re-read this naggum... you folks have overwhelmed my real time processing, ima go bsod now and bbl.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i can't stand his conventional bullshit. he dared criticise (young) caraqiale for "poor morals" in plays ? the schmuck borrowed on his income months in advance to dress up and bullshit like that. he has
a massive vein of "never got over mom" that i loathe in writers.
mircea_popescu: you know, by the way, re my recent failed attempt to interact with the master, i found last week
a notation from romania's genius poet EXPLAINIG THE SAME THING ?
mircea_popescu: from my brief stint in publishing, i wouldn't swear the expert editor is less
a contributor in the average book than the average author.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman this is
a dubious assertion, in the same vein we could say "ian murdock did the work, rest did gui" or w/e.
diana_coman: in same vein,
a team is not able to maintain the body of work of respected past intellectual, sure
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> nothing actionable or useful that i can discern. just the simple observation that
a) code the size of the body of work of respected past intellectuals is not maintainable by teams or individuals, while the writings were maintainable by the author solo ; b) the correct solution to scale is not increase in rigidity, but flexibility. which is how skyscrapers work or japan defends from earthquakes. <- fwiw the diffe
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as an ideal output, i would like
a debian distro that says "you can't possibly mean to make these keys out of 32k sets ?!"
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 13:20 asciilifeform: the 'fuzzy logic' thing was in style in '80s for
a brief spell
Framedragger:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1487950 << for
a brief spell only? i think there now may exist some inference systems which work on floating point / probabilistic truth-values? weasel words, would need to check, but wouldn't have thought it to have been
a "brief spell" only?
☝︎ mircea_popescu: so it seems to me that perhaps we could say "obviously" the more strictly defined
a language gets, the more catastrophic the necessary collapse of its large scale systems.
mircea_popescu: nothing actionable or useful that i can discern. just the simple observation that
a) code the size of the body of work of respected past intellectuals is not maintainable by teams or individuals, while the writings were maintainable by the author solo ; b) the correct solution to scale is not increase in rigidity, but flexibility. which is how skyscrapers work or japan defends from earthquakes.
mircea_popescu: but i meant in the general, as
a theoretical possibility. how the fuck...
mircea_popescu: but WHY is it possible to have
a huffman table for human text in meat ?
mircea_popescu: go the other way : why does it have to be
a mechanism ? god knows people'v proven time and again they're perfectly happy with black boxen that do something vaguely related to what they expected 80% or so of the time.
mircea_popescu: basically, instead of trying to achieve the moon-height skyscraper by investing in material rigidity, invest instead in
a sort of... fault tolerance i guess you'd call it.
mircea_popescu: let three lines of
A code be ambiguously interpretable to mean 5 different things, so that
a million lines of
A code become
a very clearly useful, controllable item.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let me run by you
a crazy idea that came to me in my dazed state we'll approximate by "sleep"
thestringpuller: wow. maybe theymos has something with his r/bitcoin moderation: "Please, never ever turns Bitcoin into
a democracy sh** thing. Be strong."
mircea_popescu: re the submissions : we couldn't have had lots of submissions without
a rsa key in it, seeing how this is ssh set neh ?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 11:13 mircea_popescu: and b)
a RICO-worthy criminal conspiracy, replete with fraud etc, to marginalize, intimidate and if need be assassinate "opponents" as defined by
a group of nuts
mircea_popescu: i wanted to fail the whole philosophy 101 class. mihu didn't think it such
a good idea. short teaching career for me, thankfully.
Framedragger:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1487858 << this i agree with! however, be it as it may i've never seen mp graciously accept to being wrong on some point. now, that *may* be because mp isn't wrong
a whole lotta times, i contend, yes; but it's still hilarious to me (in
a stimulating kind of way, fwiw). e.g. the chinese konspiraci thing, it was posted on qntra by mircea_popescu, and then later mircea_popescu says the theory is legit becau
☝︎ diana_coman: in my book programmers are exactly those who write code as
a rational creation
diana_coman: asciilifeform> other reason is that most programmers don't write code in the sense that, e.g., mircea_popescu writes essays. instead, they take
a shit, and strip away elements of the shit until the compiler is happy and the 'tests' pass. <- fwiw I don't think that those are programmers
mircea_popescu: anyway, ima fish out "how #b-
a started" later, it's like two lines.
mircea_popescu: anyway, for argentine as well as any derps who have nfi what "night life" means : follow along the fucking pictures
http://www.clujlife.com with the knowledge that
a) the nudes aren't published, by convention, but girls go naked all the time ; b) it's
a tiny fucking town, half
a mil population if the school's in session.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger well yeah but this was
a specific lulzpocalypse.
mircea_popescu: and b)
a RICO-worthy criminal conspiracy, replete with fraud etc, to marginalize, intimidate and if need be assassinate "opponents" as defined by
a group of nuts
☟︎ mircea_popescu:
a)
a model that you could put anything in, such as the weighs or the ages of your past girflriends, to take out the same exact pattern
mircea_popescu: back in 2010ish, some derps from us academia came with "proof" of the (at the time still called) global warming nonsense, in the shape of
a much-loved-bymedia "golf cross pattern".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the notion that "navajo culture" is ridiculous on its face. it's entirely built on equivocation between the term of art (EVERYTHING noetic is "
a culture" in say anthropology) and the common term (no, the united states does not have
a culture ; even if it has
a civilisation. let alone fucking navajo - never had one, never could have had one.)
Framedragger: ""My own work differentiates the mere intersection of Native and queer representations from
a two-spirit gaze by noting
a two-spirit gaze’s greater focus on traditionalist, nationalist, and activist representations of community-identified two-spirit images.7 Given
a critical mass in two-spirit Navajo film and the strength of Navajo cultural, feminist, and gender activism, this article foregrounds Navajo LGBTQ2 gazes on two-spirit Navaj
mircea_popescu: incredible how much empty noise three people can make, especially should they be the sort of people who couldn't ever find
a job, once liberated from the need to look for one.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger are these the "fuck you, i'm
a dragon" nuts ?
Framedragger: would still be curious to write/find
a tool which detects low hanging fruit for EC ssh host keys / keys with shitty parameters
Framedragger: "After realising I have
a public key database of most users on GitHub, I remembered back to the May 2008 Debian OpenSSH bug, where the randomness source was compromised to the point where the system could only generate one of 32k keys in
a set. I used g0tmi1k’s set of keys to compare against what I had in my database, and found
a very large amount of users who are still using vulnerable keys, and even worse, have commit access to some
Framedragger: this also means that potentially
a large amount of vulnerable/shit keys have been removed from github since then
mircea_popescu: lol. and even better - he wanted to buy it, to show how easy it is. then it wasn't easy. but instead of publishing
a piece about how "i thought it was easy - turns out it's not", he has
a ...
mircea_popescu: i suppose that's how the whole soypizdi thing should go, too. "no ty, you're
a dude" "I AM NOT
A DUDE I AM
A STUDENT!!!"
mircea_popescu: but yeah, this is
a pretty good model. "natural language is just like
a computer language that had no // or quotations." "so how do i know magic strings, and comments, from code ?" "your mother."
BingoBoingo: alf failed to pars the "just want to" and made
a point of the statement not parsing. It's not made for parsing though because jwz just wants to. Nothing wrong with tossing around the "just wants to" as
a string like any other though.
BingoBoingo: alf tried to parse the jwz "just want to" as an instruction whereas you treated it as
a antifact of the broken jwz
mircea_popescu: head ordinarily holds billions' loc worth, shit, we can even climb
a stair
mircea_popescu: is this
a perception problem,
a language problem, what ?
mircea_popescu: maybe articles like that should include an "editor's pick" and then once
a year we could total how well qntra did.
Framedragger: BingoBoingo: that's
a great brexit writeup, well done :D
gribble: Error: "buttfunex" is not
a valid command.
gribble: Error: "goxlag" is not
a valid command.
gribble: Bitfinex | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would sell 294609.46 bitcoins for
a total of 6705440.3944 USD and take the price to 0. | Data vintage: 0.0047 seconds
BingoBoingo: Anyways, what else can be expected when Italians make
a United States further south
mircea_popescu: seriously, when you're trying to represent argentina, think of
a 1950s awkansaw that never heard of new york and seriously thinks itself "the jewel of the ozarks" or some such shit. in all seriousness, no self-deprecatory humour intended OR EVEN CONCEIVABLE.
mircea_popescu: i have like
a feeling that if i offered them to wear
a cock cage and watch quietly while i fuck the girls, more than half would gladly accept.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo here's
a hint at the greatness and grandeur of being
a young male in
a fucked up society : 90%+ of soypizdi correspondents are... male.
felipelalli: and
a "premined" coin (dev coins) is easy to inflate the final marketcap: I just create 1`000`000`000`000`000`000 coins and sell to my mum at $ 0.01
mircea_popescu: with any luck someone actually sends actual bitcoin to either "buy" the stuff to "mommentum trade" or else you know "short it". either way it's
a win - your 0 value scamcoin attracted some actual money!