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mircea_popescu: but this is what a soft fork is ?
mircea_popescu: (it went up by about 4x since last year. hardware's the most expensive part of a scamcoin.)
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 14:30 Framedragger: (e.g. i agree with chomsky's "There is a notion of success ... which I think is novel in the history of science. It interprets success as approximating unanalyzed data." which does indeed suck.)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1488111 << the guy's defense, notably, "yes it's collecting butterflies - there's nothing wrong with that" is actually tendentious. it's NOT collecting butterflies. yes, it COULD BE, but i don't see any of that happening. just a bunch of "we have butterflies in this black box, come hear about our weight loss ideas" typically ustarded marketing and "engineering" ☝︎
phf: well, tradeoffs that sbcl made are more in line with modern practices, so there was a transition from old and stodgy cmucl to new and shiny sbcl
phf: cmucl doesn't have threads not because it's a baby system. it doesn't have threads because sbcl both made adding functionality of that nature easier and canibalized developers from cmucl
phf: you only say that because you think sbcl is somehow "clean". chrodes managed a very neat hack, a build system improvement, that's where neat hacks have ended, and modernization began, but it's not like the legacy cmucl codebase somehow disappeared from sbcl
asciilifeform: naggum had a great piece on these:
phf: (a much harder task in hunchentoot)
asciilifeform: cl-http is the mega-classic (by the nsa bloke who bought symbolics !! iirc) but it had a very strange license which prohibited just about any practical use, and so did not catch on
phf: killing a couple of threads "fixed" the issues, but i'm not sure what the problem was :/
asciilifeform: http://bitcoinocracy.com/arguments/in-the-event-of-a-fork-i-will-sell-rbf-blockstream-core-coins-and-buy-classic-bitcoins << other examples of 'consensooooos washing'
asciilifeform: the peter todd turd is a true classic of its genre: 'we gotta commit an atrocity. but we first will get CONSENSOOOS!!1111 so then it won't be an atrocity, fuckyou. and btw we control the vertical and the horizontal and all the votez, so fuckyou.x2' ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'I’ve heard reports that the first part of Vitalik’s fork proposal has already happened: miners have frozen the funds taken from the DAO with a soft-fork, which means that miners are blacklisting any transaction that moves those funds, as well as refusing to mine on top of blocks containing transactions moving those funds. That’s not very hard to do as - like Bitcoin - Ethereum mining is sufficiently centralized that it only ta
trinque: or they just find loose cannons and groom them for a while
trinque: G4S has previously been accused of improperly vetting its employees. In 2009, Danny Fitzsimons, a former British paratrooper and employee of a G4S subsidiary, killed two colleagues in Iraq, claiming to be “the antichrist” and saying he “must satisfy” his “bloodlust.” << wouldn't blow my mind that $lizardhitler has a drug that induces this ☟︎
trinque: I'll have to do moar googling, but I'd expect a company that was running guantanamo would be closer to mercs than mall cops
asciilifeform: trinque: in usa private guards, typically, get - sometimes - a little pistol training.
trinque: oddly same company that spun off a subsidiary that was running guantanamo
asciilifeform: random fire dun hit much in a 3d world. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: well, bar's crowded, gun's alright, he's gotta have managed at least a few.
trinque: that'd be quite a lot of people being usg agents claiming to witness him shooting people
mircea_popescu: should they also get a govt uniform ? be in goose-step with the times ?
trinque: most music venues have a piss stained closet with a line a mile long
mircea_popescu: at A BAR.
trinque: yeah that's not super unlikely at a gay bar
asciilifeform: (the practice dates to at least turing's time, there is a monument near the toilet he used)
mircea_popescu: this is how it works yes. gotta have fuckroom or is not a bar, and if not a bar not a nighlife.
mircea_popescu: trinque looks like a shitth broom by the piping
trinque: thought it was a bathroom
asciilifeform: and Only A Terrorist Would Ask (TM) (R) how one can blow 5+ grenade holes in a cement wall, clean through, without fragging any of the hundreds of schmucks hiding behind it
asciilifeform: and this apparently is a MAGICAL wall that doesn't shower folks with frags behind it when you blow it up....
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: Officially (tm) a wall-breaching grenade, purpose-made
mircea_popescu: the mega dent up right of hole came from, likely, a howitzer.
mircea_popescu: i guess it could be that the bottom came in at a very wide angle, which in iutself is kinda stupid, but the marks are too round for that.
mircea_popescu: (why by bozo ? because he fired 7 in a row and has miserable enough control of the gun that he swings left-right etc)
mircea_popescu: that can't be 9mm. really it can't be 38 either, looks like a 22
asciilifeform: ideal weapon for bullying a crowd, guarding concentration camp, etc.
asciilifeform: when they decided that nailing whole crowd was a-ok
mircea_popescu: seems like a pretty shiutty choice. bad weapon all around : low caliber shitty ammo for hard targets, poor accuracy and overpenetration for soft targets
mircea_popescu: seems there's a peashooter and a .45 involved
asciilifeform: that is, there is not a weapon that will produce these if fired from inside.
asciilifeform: the one they blew a hole in the back of ?
mircea_popescu: why'd police shoot up a gay bar ?
asciilifeform: incidentally rumours of a good chunk of the gay bar corpses having 9mm police holes in'em continue to circulate.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the whole thing is a "gun control" ie, make the us as "immigrant"-friendly as rotterham, uk. bullshit.
mircea_popescu: a queermoeba lol
asciilifeform: 'easy going' like shit floating down a river.
mircea_popescu: (ftr, there's an entire subculture of these, on west coast. you can fill a 2 acre pool estate with them in bikinis, they'll swiggle around while the pot lasts.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a good bit of aptitude in, e.g., weight lifting, i suspect, is simply having a dull sense of the pain involved in effort
asciilifeform: or aiming not to be a slug
mircea_popescu: well in the sense i don't want to be a woman
diana_coman: I only had a very clear idea of what I do NOT want really; at least when presented with the thing
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu had a number of pretty clear not-wants-to-be.
mircea_popescu: i don't have a specific conception of wanting to be anything in particular.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1488354 << imho this is one of the things that distinguishes actual people from the cow folk - actual people have a concrete conception of ~wanting to be a specific thing~ ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 13:03 asciilifeform: the thermodynamic 'taboo against the coincidence' is described in, oddly enough, winnie pooh! '"Well," said Pooh, "what I like best," and then he had to stop and think. Because although Eating Honey was a very good thing to do, there was a moment just before you began to eat it which was better than when you were, but he didn't know what it was called.'
diana_coman: them: why make a fuss? you'll get used to it
diana_coman: well, my first experience as an employee, while still studying: something goes wrong and I'm the only one to make a fuss about it
asciilifeform: there was even a spiffy mircea_popescu article re same
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't think so; it's from being a chump maybe?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 14:28 Framedragger: there was a post about statistical/ML approach vs. (one of) rule-based approach(es) just recently, i haven't read it yet, http://norvig.com/chomsky.html (inb4 ad hominem alf's norvig iz usg pawn :P )
mircea_popescu: during those 50 years they raise a woman's children by another man.
thestringpuller: coincidentally i'm doing a puppet run right now.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 15:10 asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is what i was trying to get across with the 'bad flying only kills a busful, bad program - potentially everyone' example
mircea_popescu: it is easier to understand, which seems a major factor in code survival.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is what i was trying to get across with the 'bad flying only kills a busful, bad program - potentially everyone' example ☟︎
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you missed a spot, there's still some php garbage! i just run into some like yest
diana_coman: ahahah, the advantage of mircea_popescu's favourite approach: there will always be tons of garbage to clean off since a cake eaten is at least eaten, but crappy code is rarely totally obliterated
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform or a better question, "would mircea_popescu still be mircea_popescu if he were not mircea_popescu ???"
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: I used to do this for a leaving
asciilifeform: would mircea_popescu still be having a ball if he were spending his life cleaning up ruby garbage ?
mircea_popescu: i'm having a ball, are you kidding ?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-11 01:23 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1480685 << no, this is the problem. a bunch of idiots would have to earn bread different way ; and ben_vulpes would be allowed to do something less idiotic with his time. that's the problem whenever derps get the reins - they drive the ship ashore and someone's stuck fishing it back out.
asciilifeform: my point was that bad programming has just as permanent an effect as bad flying. more so, in fact, as badly flown machine can only kill a busfull of folks, while bad design of program (or machine) can enstupidate generations.
mircea_popescu: also, no cooking mistake is EVER reversible. cooking is the paragon of irreversible process with a thermodynamics-supplied seal of certitude.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where do we buy a new you, when you spent your whole life buying computers instead of $solving.
diana_coman: it's a bugbear/bare of mine, lol
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1488220 << this is a workable way to teach cooking, or perhaps music, but not, say, flying ☝︎
asciilifeform: phf: upcasing utf8 is a heavy op, so i suspect that it will be gnarly
mircea_popescu: diana_coman certainly not a cake. but it also has this passive "don't touch the instruments" educative value. womenz particularly vulnerable to this crap.
diana_coman: that was not about helplessness though, but about the fact that a cake which is a cake only when you look at it from a certain angle, in a certain light, is NOT A CAKE
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope. not the space. and the link is literally a repost
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: hmm; but you did supply her with some "aesthetics" feedback, maybe even a floating point value, as in, "better/worse than before", perhaps
mircea_popescu: but while i don't for a second suspect you of gender politics, nevertheless, there you go, you did it to them. what now.
mircea_popescu: no, it just floats around as a sea of ether
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 14:26 mircea_popescu: now, it is real easy to grant that "machine can't resolve because irl it takes more neurons than there's atoms in the cpu". but this is a total cop-out, i can string together an infinity of computers, as bitcoin has shown.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman this is a very good point.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i have yet to see him talk other than by himself in a room. were you hear for the discussion of brin the elder ?
mircea_popescu: if it's a fucking tool why the fuck are youtrying to build a 3mn loc item in it!
a111: Logged on 2016-06-22 04:02 mircea_popescu: yeah. but that doesn't change the fact the ~only intellectual in the entire north of the continent is that old jew talking to himself in a room.
mircea_popescu: anyway. currently computers seem to me a sort of AB - alpha.
Framedragger: (e.g. i agree with chomsky's "There is a notion of success ... which I think is novel in the history of science. It interprets success as approximating unanalyzed data." which does indeed suck.) ☟︎
Framedragger: there was a post about statistical/ML approach vs. (one of) rule-based approach(es) just recently, i haven't read it yet, http://norvig.com/chomsky.html (inb4 ad hominem alf's norvig iz usg pawn :P ) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and yes, the google "ai" rule based bs is giving a bad name to all this, but abstracting the usg.idiots for a second, before we throw out the bath
mircea_popescu: now, it is real easy to grant that "machine can't resolve because irl it takes more neurons than there's atoms in the cpu". but this is a total cop-out, i can string together an infinity of computers, as bitcoin has shown. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: as in the joke with the romanian police and the bear, "give me this djinn for a week"
Framedragger: ..prolly easier to wait for generic a.i. and then just have it mesh with brainz, heh.
mircea_popescu: we did. it probably explains a lot of my sufferances.
asciilifeform: didn't we ~just the other day~ have a 'hole hawg' thread ?