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mircea_popescu: no. the original hypothesis was that the same exact item you alf could buy, ie, slightly worse than the best and slightly better than average deployment, will be inserted into eg ceramic tiles, and allow for applications where people don't so much give a fuck.
mircea_popescu: fucking move, if you don't like paying 5 cents for electro-watt and a further 10 cents so mammie mc nigger fatass can afford lube and happy meals every time you burn a watt.
mircea_popescu: yes, it's true most of those for-profit mining ops are located in places with cheaper electricity than yours. HOWEVER, this is not a discussion of ~the miner~ but of expensive government you ~opt to support~.
mircea_popescu: the bitcoin miner you alf could buy today is slightly, but not much, worse than the bitcoin miner the strategic mining op could buy today ; and it is slightly better (but not much) than the average miner the average strategic op has currently deployed and running.
mircea_popescu: what fucking chump bait are you the fuck on about in your own solipsist hell entirely lost to any reason ?
mircea_popescu: certainly stupid idea, it takes 3 watts of steam (the "low quality low temperature heat" from above) to make 1 watt of electricity. why the fuck would you turn around and make low temperature heat out of that ?!
mircea_popescu: so yes, bitcoin miners are strategic items, much like atari targetting systems. nevertheless -- perfectly available to consumer.
mircea_popescu: because wtf, you're not gonna put the better item in the mn-line, keep it for the 100s line ?
mircea_popescu: this is the fundamental point of ye above linked car article : if "luxury brands" come up with ~substantail improvements~, they're next year in the "mass market" cars.
mircea_popescu: yes ; and if they found out a way to do without the au, they'd have taken it out of... both.
mircea_popescu: because of how ic works, it's cheaper to let consumers have the professional product than to make another special one for them.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a whole selection of current-ish miners available to consumer.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but then again argentinas are usually the dumping grounds. most "old" phones ended up in africa.
mircea_popescu: it's certainly happening, to the degree electric heating is happening currently.
mircea_popescu: (the situation is actually better than that, seeing how most of those PWh are low quality energy in the shape of low temperature heat.)
mircea_popescu: ie, bitcoin is 0.02% complete. yet something tells me the next ten years are going to see a lot more completion than the first ten.
mircea_popescu: consequently bitcoin is merely using 0.02 to 0.01% of world energy generation, less than the 50%+1 it's supposed to use by a margin of say 5000.
mircea_popescu: at this same time, world energy consumption (instantaneous) is about 10-20 terajoules (on the basis of primary energy generation/consumption for 2015 standing at 170/110 PWh) ;
mircea_popescu: because there's no way in hell anyone can store 5mn procedure calls in 4mb ram.
mircea_popescu: but this can be factually insured in the model proggy for call testing, by making the DEPTH larger than the page size.
mircea_popescu: you are saying that the delta between the address of the jump instruction and the address of the instruction it jumps to must be at least arbitrary number = page size.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but if i don't adjust the linux max for eulora, why the fuck would i care to do so for this test ?
mircea_popescu: re the loops, i don't see the point in bothering with this there. we were checking loops, not the whole call mechanism, there.
mircea_popescu: if you use up 16mn stack frames, they'll be multi-page like it or not.
mircea_popescu: but the calls thing can be made any arbitrary size with a switch. you want it 16777216 rather than 65536 is the idea ?
mircea_popescu: are you talking about the loop thing or the calls thing ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why do you think all the serpenting happens in the same page ?
mircea_popescu: not like it's verboten, write in some handlers, why the hell not.
mircea_popescu: "random" doesn't need to be strong, just enough to fuck the optimiser. mt_rand or anything works really.
mircea_popescu: (honestly i never heard of a program that properly used 64k stack frames ; seems if truly one needs such depths, one's welcome to fucking rewrite something, recursion be damned.)
mircea_popescu: IF indeed there's a significant difference between call and loop re that cost, this'll bring it out.
mircea_popescu: set max value to say 65536 (this should result in <mb stack load, i am guessing ?) and let it run.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman : btw, here's my current model for the calling timing harness : write three procedures, A B C. have each of these 1. increment a global counter, X ; 2. check if X is over a max value ; 3. if it is not, have each call either one or the other of the other two randomly ; 4. if X is over max value, have them simply return.
☟︎ mircea_popescu is more than welcoming criticism / commentary from experts ; as far as my lights see, we have in fact checked that documented penalty and found it missing in practice.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman but nobody's ever adding MORE handlers. so if this is so, it still is moot.
mircea_popescu: i can't believe we manage to have crosstalk with just two people talking.
mircea_popescu: but there is no such thing as a TRULY unhandled exception. either it hoses the box or else it goes to the default handler.
mircea_popescu: but i mean, your code would have handled exceptions if they arose, yes ? if a for looped out of bounds, or whatever. isn't it so ?
mircea_popescu: this is specifically what we were checking, whether this is true or not.
mircea_popescu: but this is already checked, no ? all sorts of exceptions are in fact handled by your for loops code, that were not risen
mircea_popescu: and yes, i would say it's worth re-pressing to his node and seeing if that fixes it. if it does, we'll have some 'splainin' to do.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this trinque - mod6 exchange's gonna be a thing for the ages.
mircea_popescu: well at least this discussion's narrowing down the paths issue
mircea_popescu: shockingly similar to an autoimmune disease, all this.
mircea_popescu: kinda lulzy, considering they can't really stand up for five minutes without them. no cobain there to argue for alternative to mp worldview, what's left ?
mircea_popescu: im sure he fucked a bunch of seattle cokewhores without asking them.
mircea_popescu: socialist future has no room for individual creators of beloved mass-cultural icons!!!
mircea_popescu has been playing the same heroes 2 for 20 years now. if it were on chip it'd have hurt nothing.
mircea_popescu: in any case, on a sane system that's stable there's ~0 reason to have the CODE on disk.
mircea_popescu: initramfs seems the logical intermediate step to romware.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i see 0.971934] SCSI subsystem initialized ?
mircea_popescu: ie, from a cursory look at his published logs, my impression was that the kernel has sata just fine, but the disk's not plugged in the config-set hole or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: right ; but i expect the sata is like the raid, not like the soundblaster.
mircea_popescu: well it couldn't come from THEM, linux existed long before they.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-13#1895868 << we don't so much care, seeing how we don't intend to have exceptions but exceptionally. if the thing crashes ever, your problems will be in excess of 99, but none of them that "it took one half milisecond extra for burning relic to make it back to earth"
☝︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: my vague memories not fresh enough to pursue this line.
mircea_popescu: yes, but what i mean, if it manages to build with no sata/no ide it says ; similarily if no netcard ; and i dun recall what else.