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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'll have to disabuse you of the notion that "the content" ie "what it says" matters in that context.
asciilifeform: not even the one i posted, either
mircea_popescu: i had no idea!
shinohai: I kinda mangled that last sentence though.
Framedragger: i want to write something like this, but dread the fact that i would have to review a shitton of shitty attempts. one approach, i guess, is to just dismiss those attempts, come up with a sane and straightforward design, and implementing without too much fuss...
asciilifeform: (i fuhget which)
mircea_popescu: i'm not particularly interested in defending the us from imaginary attacks
asciilifeform: i can't speak for usa, but ru regularly test-fires.
mircea_popescu: i'd be surprised if they can usefully launch anything by this point.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i vaguely suspect delivery actually worked better in 49 than it does today.
asciilifeform: for all i know, the folks in the next room were doing bitcoin.
asciilifeform: well i already did the job. right here, for phreeeeee.... it isn't as if hitler doesn't read the l0gz
asciilifeform: i've wondered often who precisely they paid, and how much, to set up even a basic 'first 6mo of trb'-level framework for them of understanding how the shitsoup even worx
mircea_popescu: coming right next after the official usg libertard ideologue steps in here to prove to me how wrong i am about things and matters.
asciilifeform: i'd be curious, though, to meet a usg fauxtoshi who is willing to endure 5 minutes of my questions re trb src.
asciilifeform: hey it isn't as if i worked in hitler's bunker, my approach is necessarily indirect
mircea_popescu: ironically i fucking warned the idiots when they fired the hearn toothpick. but, too dumb to figure it out.
mod6: think i should get off her first
asciilifeform: and i don't see this 'quit and submit' thing ever being a thing
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-20#1469135 << explain this. i dun see how the cost of generating additional gavins is any higher now than in 2012 ☝︎
asciilifeform: i can picture black 'sectera' phone ringing on hitler's desk, 'ft meade, we need moar time, secp256k1 is still standing' 'lose the other division, or LOSE YERSELF!1211111'
shinohai: I'd ask BA for a quote for Qntra, but he blocked me on twatter
mircea_popescu: i guess so.
asciilifeform: i did pr3d1ct!111111
shinohai: I tried earlier today, was 404 for me :/
shinohai: testing a file upload script since I'm ditching imgur for good.
mircea_popescu: i suppose we don't agree on that score.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dun see how he needs any further spray for any purpose, the substance's self-discrediting enough.
asciilifeform: at any rate, with people being idiots, i fully expect 'bring back $1 burgerz, motherfuckers' graffiti after monsanto dies
asciilifeform: i will point out that we have 'go home obama' here.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'vox' article linked because it is a handy illustration of how usg 't-cells' attack whatever foreign object. mr mold is getting same treatment, for nth year in a row now, as phuctor for past yr. i.e. sprayed in coating of 'pre-discredited, move along' claptrap
mircea_popescu: either that or i don' tunderstand something.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, i mixed him up with birch
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-19#1468999 << not sure why you think acetonitrile is bizarre, I use it lots ☝︎
mircea_popescu: dude wtf am i reading.
asciilifeform: 'I find it very disturbing that there seems to be very little response from popular OS distributions to this issue. Most do not appear to have issued any package updates to close the shell exploit. Perhaps the opinion is that major new versions will be introduced as part of major distribution releases and it is ok for users to exposed to problems for two or three years.'
asciilifeform: there was robot, which i was reversing and writing soft for, but meanwhile actual work was done by gurlz
mircea_popescu: lol ty, i'll pass.
mircea_popescu: i guess.
asciilifeform: (aggressive solvent, a place where i used to wurk had massive tanks hooked to dna synthesizer, to clean the pipez)
mircea_popescu: i guess it must be.
asciilifeform: it was so that 'hey i have a tank column here and berlin is 50km away, i need moar neutrons and less thermal'
mircea_popescu: i guess the ustards imagines itself in the glorified position where all non-orcs are friendly.
mircea_popescu: well if i can steal one, also.
mircea_popescu: i put this chip on a breadboard, and feed all possible input combinations to it, note down all that comes out.
mircea_popescu: and i'll recover them through any of the numerous cryptanalysis tricks available.
mircea_popescu: it's a black box circuit, i measure all its outputs for known inputs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform problem is i take off that chip and fuzz it.
asciilifeform: i shit thee not, this is the actual law in usa since '50s
mircea_popescu: i wonder if the logs will end up classified now also.
asciilifeform: Errata, which I dubbed "exploding styrofoam," the corresponding phrase would be "a gas of electrons." The implosion of the secondary is driven by matter pressure, not radiation pressure. Incidentally, Dow Chemical complained that Styrofoam is a trademark, like Xerox, and that nuclear weapons do not contain Styrofoam. Point conceded; the foam is generic. ... I like the idea of a nuisance material, plastic foam, as the real secret of
asciilifeform: 'In the one-page Errata in the December 1979 issue, I explained that the turkey in the oven is a plastic "channel filler" which captures x-ray energy and explodes with enormous force, purely as the result of getting very hot very fast (ten million degrees in half a microsecond). In the original H-bomb article, I had described the conditions inside the radiation channel in terms of "a gas of photons." For my revised explanation in the
asciilifeform: but i dare say i have a handle on 'technology' vs 'magic'
asciilifeform: neh i get it
mircea_popescu: soon enough you're going to re-discover post-structuralism at this rate, and end up understanding what i meant by context above.
asciilifeform: i would have a bit of a tougher cookie on my hands
asciilifeform: well yes, if i were in the position of the hero of that one asimov story where he is trying to communicate what humans look like over radio, but he has no idea even which way their displays scan, or what the hell they use to decode signal in the first place,
asciilifeform: i said 'edge' not 'edges' neh ?
mircea_popescu: but you communicated axe and i ended up with a flanged mace. http://www.therionarms.com/reenact/therionarms_c1306b.jpg << is this your axe ?
mircea_popescu: ok but i said item.
asciilifeform: (whether real, or fictional in whole or part, i obviously do not know)
asciilifeform: i was specifically citing example of failed technologizing
asciilifeform: anyway i was not there, and cannot say how much the entire story was simply a cover for embezzling half a bil usd
mircea_popescu: i always thought it to be a sort of snipe pee.
mircea_popescu: anwyay, there's not so much difference between what we're saying. "make it repeatable" as you say is part of parcel of "economy of scale" as i say.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu does, plox report back, i will read.
asciilifeform: well the damascene pattern is there. but no, i did not personally buy these swords and go back in time to 14th c and fight with them for 20y
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, "shit an atom of gold and i'll pay you a dollar" is easy. "shit a brick of gold and i'll pay you a billion" is very fucking hard. etc.
mircea_popescu: to take a simple illustration : make this matchstick exactly 1 mn thick within 0.1% tolerance throughout it's length and i'll pay you a dollar is hard. make this rod of molybdenum 1 mm thick within 0.0000001% tolerance and i'll pay you a billion is easy.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-19 15:51 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-19#1468573 << i'ma bite this bait. tell me, what constructive thing have improvements in finance in past 30y enabled ?
asciilifeform: i assume mircea_popescu read, e.g., polya
mircea_popescu: then you can say like the butcher that moved into village and introduced hygiene, "i am a better surgeon than the guys in paris"
mircea_popescu: i use "technology" to describe my numeric head-mathing, though most gurlz can't do it.
mircea_popescu: point in fact, most of what you do is not communicable to "filthy white man". though from what you're saying i take it next you go renting you'll rouse them from their beds to teach lisp ?
asciilifeform: then unless the trick requires cunt muscles i can duplicate it.
asciilifeform: i meant, sitting when she is being taught for 1st time
asciilifeform: or does mircea_popescu propose that i could not possibly perform the match trick even if told all.
asciilifeform: and i won't find out what molybdenum is for another 2000 yrs.
asciilifeform: and yeah, i go home and it dun work 'cause my farts haven't enough molybdenum in'em.
mircea_popescu: so you're a little miffed, and suspect us of collusion. so then we capture a random inuit woman, and i spend some time with her,
mircea_popescu: and then i call a girl over, and she tries it, and there it is! a pretty one too.
mircea_popescu: you think i'm joking, but presently i demonstrate : i put a finger on my nose, and frown, and fart, and soon enough there it is, another one.
mircea_popescu: and i explain to you that i discovered a way to create them by farting.
mircea_popescu: let's do a thought experiment. suppose i invite you to spend a week at my north pole hunting lodge, where, contrary to what you might expect, we spend our time hunting large floating worms of delicious carnation. with me so far ?
mircea_popescu: fine then, let it be so. to me the difference is that i perceive the "you" to be universalizing in your statement.
mircea_popescu: so did i.
asciilifeform: laugh all you like, i had it in sch00l
mircea_popescu: ah, but no, i do not accept this requirement that the DESCRIPTION be universally accessible either.
asciilifeform: i can readily believe that mircea_popescu's magic got stronger, sure. but did he singlehandedly surplus all of the obsolete meatbags ? or did somebody else's magic also get stronger, and if so how..?
asciilifeform: or so i thought.
mircea_popescu: what i strictly care about is, doth it or doth it not make it easier for me to send fifty men out of their houses, behead their offspring and claim their women.
mircea_popescu: i don't give the first inkliong of a shit as to whether it could "rightfully" be called technical, inovation, or pornography. that's a concern for kids debating superman-vs-spiderman encounters.
mircea_popescu: ah but you see, this is thevery thing we're discussing. ~I~ benefit from it, and it empowers me. that'd be what i'd care about.
asciilifeform: but the reason i dun see the 'let's 3% tax' as a technical advance, is that it was not a deliberate act, but a concession to collapse of inca empire. it was done ~to~ the folks who did it, like an earthquake.
asciilifeform: not being timeless god on mt olympus, i generally don't do 'absolute firsts'
asciilifeform: and i can't fathom it being the first.
mircea_popescu: i also count all SORTS of things, including 3% corp tax in romania, for instance. wasn't there in 86
mircea_popescu: i also count sepa.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i count bitcoin, you know.
asciilifeform: all i see is complexity cancer, on which the usual scamvultures feast.