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ben_vulpes: davout even i think was older than i for his
ben_vulpes: i am possibly the youngest hipster /deciding/ to have children. this means that none of the other hipsters want to be friends any more, because what sane person with hobbies etc hangs out with married and children.
ben_vulpes: i learned it from you!
mircea_popescu: incidentally danielpbarron mind showing the i'll pay for tits thing to https://twitter.com/aella_girl thx ☟︎
asciilifeform: what did i miss
ben_vulpes: /i/ am having a bad week.
ben_vulpes: and /i/ soaked the scale
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: no /i/ spilled the coffe
mircea_popescu: Framedragger was mostly confirming your assumption. yes, if the motherfucker goes to indochina i want a nigger there hiding in a bowl of rice ready to suck its pubkey down.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: well. i guess the spider could could include a ipv6 address crawler to populate a ipv6 address list. but beyond that?
ben_vulpes: oh and php is non-bullshit i c
mircea_popescu: i read it to mean he doesn't use django.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, you're pretty talented, or at least i liked your www output :D
asciilifeform: also, i presume, for a baker, so we can hand out phreee caeks?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-20#1469732 << because i am not a wwwtronicist. the thing does not intelligently generate the web crapolade from the db in any way, it manually and agonizingly 'if phuctored then display this-here colours' etc. ☝︎
Framedragger: i dunno you guys plans for future
Framedragger: i think so, yes
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: of course. :) btw can i assume that ecdsa keys are not of interest? only rsa?
mircea_popescu: honestly asciilifeform i'd much rather if phuctor held a table consisting of e,N,comment,pgp_crud1,pgp_crud2,etc. should be indexed by hash of first three fields. should not depend on the trailing fields existing
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: that was useful. so btw this fromphuctor__, i take it he hasn't much reappeared. was good idea, his
mircea_popescu: ah. and you were calling this later "convertor" ? whereas i was calling the former.
Framedragger: i suppose i should search logs for previous discussions? unless anyone wants to give a more particular summary? spider as many keys from as many hosts running ssh as possible?
Framedragger: "also, anyone want to run a ssh server key spider ?" << heh, k, i'm up for this, might as well be useful while i brood ☟︎
asciilifeform: prolly i am doomed to rewrite whole thing again...
mircea_popescu: so far i'm trying to understand what specifically the db is like.
jurov: yes, convertor. when i find out why it does barfalicious output
jurov: asciilifeform: i can convert if you insist
mircea_popescu: well... i guess you make a tmsr - to - rfc 448866221133massachussetts convertor.
Framedragger: hahah. oh i *bet* that wears you off after a while!
Framedragger: ahh, i see
mircea_popescu: did i ?
Framedragger: didn't you say something to the tune of "i'd like to die here" :)
Framedragger: it's nice to hear that argentina is a livable place, then. i enjoyed the pix on trilema fwiw
mircea_popescu: warwick castle was epic, but finding something you'd stick your penis into was ~impossible. i was stuck with imports the whole time.
Framedragger: ah i see!
Framedragger: yeah there are friendly people here, with brains etc. weather is shit obvs., and i admit it affects me. hence travels to morocco and suchlike
mircea_popescu: anyway - yeah i suppose locals are fugly, but then again glasgow gets a lot of foreign students/tourists.
Framedragger: ah yes that's what i saw in logs. lols
mircea_popescu: i only make fun of the london people. the scots are a sort of lithuania :D
mircea_popescu: i thought glasgow was in scotland
Framedragger: so i heard! and tbh i would indeed like that, at least for a time!
Framedragger: i'm too young to hold a decent convo, seemingly. owell. glasgow, uk. it's alright. you'll make fun of uk tho, and that's only fair. i'll move at some point
Framedragger: i don't know what to think of that country. i mean, it's shit, but this is sorta a priori
Framedragger: yes. unless you mean "the club" (not venue), then i'm not sure, but there are people's circles which seem to function well, yes. i've been out of the country for some time and am generally not in loop
Framedragger: no. *i should*
mircea_popescu: yeah, i know, i like lithuanian chix.
Framedragger: misinterpreted question. "what does it buy". yeah, the nice feeling inside, so, zero, i suppose
Framedragger: i suppose there's no true need, but have you considered moving to a new/different irc network? or can that wait till gossipd saves the internet?
mircea_popescu: i guess not.
Framedragger: i guess this shouldn't be totally surprising
Framedragger: shit i missed lots of interesting drama, it seems :D
Framedragger: i see
Framedragger: but e.g. i auth with gribble and apparently that's enough. deedbot sees this. i guess that's fine?
mircea_popescu: there was some discussion with nanotube re his rewriting gribble to act properly (ie, sessionless) and interchange data, but it never came to naught. i dun think gribble is still being much maintained. no idea really.
Framedragger: noob question but by god am i confused. is deedbot's WoT a different WoT from that which is serviced by gribble?
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-20#1469514 <<< toldja I couldn't forget that one, spent half the morning reading turdtalk again as I was editing. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ah yeah. i think we'll need to make a "min 4gb ram for new boxes" tmsr standard ; so people can run general purpose + trb on them
shinohai: I think I just got cursed at in hindi
ben_vulpes: in other rng news http://i.imgur.com/TxFLW5F.jpg
mircea_popescu: mmm, i think that's an old instance. a sec.
mircea_popescu: (i've not much followed libressl, chiefly because anyone purporting to do crypto anything that's not in my wot is an outright fraud)
Framedragger: two years, i think
Framedragger: hmm. i suppose it's massive, yeah
Framedragger: i mean it's a largish codebase, but in terms of general approach / effort. borne out of anger towards openssl, all that
Framedragger: asciilifeform do you have an opinion on libressl? sorry if i'm pestering ya
mircea_popescu: see above in log why i'm currently expecting to see some horrors.
Framedragger: oh i have some of those there.. but they're not important keys anyway. hey that sounds like a nice project
Framedragger: re. github, just fyi github is less.. hegemonic these days. gitlab is doing well, and that one's a bit less shit etc. this may sound like a partial solution to a fundamental problem, sure, but mh i dunno.
mircea_popescu: i don't credit this "network effect" criticality thing. yes, people came up with that particular rebranding of panglossism to sell inept investors on why they should throw money away. it worked. that the sale pitch worked does not make the theory true.
Framedragger: but i probably overestimate the powa of the folk.
Framedragger: yeah fair enough, regarding numbers, of course that makes sense. but social networks have this nagging thing of critical mass, sometimes. i know this is a naive viewpoint, but with e.g. networks which are for meets-and-greets, you know, location-based circles whatnot, it does require some amount of people for there to be more people. then again, maybe there are more smart folk around than i presume. though that's a dangerous assumption i
Framedragger: (heheh in the beginning of that article are you basically quick-tutorialing people about the analytic/synthetic distinction (in a way)? i mean it's about the (possible existence of) truth-conditions of propositions with no reference, but it has this vibe to it)
mircea_popescu: and as to the other thing : numbers per se are meaningless. if there's a million truck drivers in the world, and 999`990 use a truck that does 10 mpg and i have 10 people using a truck that does 12 mpg, guess who'll be selling and who'll be buying trucking companies in the not so distant future.
Framedragger: yeah i see
Framedragger: i've read quite a few articles but it's still, like, such a small amount
Framedragger: hm. i guess your notion of "adoption" is not like many others. i.e., it's not a matter of "whether majority of animals use it", but rather "whether majority of intelligent animals use it", or somesuch. because folks are also super lazy about switching from a broken thing to a more functional and better thing. case in point: much of enterprise software. (not that there may not be good gems there)
Framedragger: k, i see the.. angle. i suppose you belief in them having to adapt or die comes from most of your endeavours of the kind succeeding? which - don't get me wrong - is very admirable - but, like, it requires napoleonic levels of confidence. not that it's bad in and of itself
mircea_popescu: Framedragger read up on v, it's worth the read. more generally, you are ideologically naive, for which reason you're perhaps missing things. for instance, when i say "add a html parser" i do not mean "introduce support for THEIR definitioon of html". rather, i mean "create our own html, and by its presence passively force them to adapt or die".
Framedragger looks for reasons to hate git in logs. (spoiler, i don't hate git.. at least not yet)
Framedragger: no but i've heard of it in logs. some approach to patching and (presumably) general version control? or more than that, even?
Framedragger: i mean let's say one wouldn't depend on gnupg or anything like that. fine. use RSA. but with the (admirable) level of scrutiny employed herein, i'd be wary of even suggesting a single implementation of RSA which would not be shitty. i mean, there is libressl...
Framedragger: i hear you. i'm just thinking in more mundane/practical terms, "can i build X without waiting for the everything i'd need for X to also be rewritten"
mircea_popescu: and make no mistake, i said it and i'll say it again : this is one of those moments.
Framedragger: "apparently you can't EVEN DO MATH in js" << yes yes YES :/ i knowz... that's why people want a web crypto api (crypto itself implemented in browser).. but the answer to your snarky follow-up "that just adds salt to the wound" is yes.. it's doomed
asciilifeform: famously described by... guess who, https://www.jwz.org/blog/2010/10/every-day-i-learn-something-new-and-stupid
mircea_popescu: lmao. i dunno why they have a page about how php sucks, and nothing about javascript. apparently you can't EVEN DO MATH in js (9007199254740993/28059810762433 === 321 is false).
asciilifeform: next revision, i'ma pull it, it is silly
mircea_popescu: i thought you hated interruptions.
asciilifeform: i'ma remove it today.
mircea_popescu: right. i was just looking, 2 days ago it was 2151840
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: oh last night i cracked this enigma
asciilifeform: yeah and if they let me into the white house i could play in the bowling alley.
BingoBoingo: I think they just have a dumb statue there though.
asciilifeform: i dun have my usg thrall face card no moar (and it was only good for dod ministries anyway)
mircea_popescu: anabasis being the one true marathon. yes, good point, i shoulda said that.
Framedragger: i'm gonna read more logs
Framedragger: "i just want a secure social site right nao"
shinohai: r/btc "Our latest ad campaign got us 61 clicks, we're winning!!!!" https://i.imgur.com/i1kcOXt.png
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i will be passing through chicago soon, anything esp. interesting i ought to see ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I ended up going cordless because I wanted the battery.