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asciilifeform: when leech drinks, that is not a cost, that is 'business as usual.'
mircea_popescu: that's not going to "count" as a cost because... well, corruption, racism, etcetera.
asciilifeform: partly because it isn't even a price, but a cut of whatever net worth the family might have
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-07#1498984 << back in romania i had to spend ~2 hours each year signing the yearly reports of corps. i am not kidding, a literal two hours. thousands of signatures. ☝︎
Joshua-I: It's like a stimulating predicate logic twitter
asciilifeform: hidden in a closet.
asciilifeform: i worked in a corp where the doors were run by a winblows ME box.
Joshua-I: You can just as easily bust down a door
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski it can be many things. chet made some pretty epic gravy. you're right in that it's rendered fat as the fat base ; with a starch. this is how all sauces are made.
asciilifeform: there are other problems, but the logz seem to be missing the main thread, so i will summarize a few: it is physically impossible to fit a serious rng in the thing, regardless of how constructed; the pc knows that a dedicated crypto hardware item is connected, and if attacker controls it he can sign/decrypt whatever the hell he wants with your card; and a bunch more.
mircea_popescu: "o look, the cookie model is bullshit, so they fixed it by making a dongle. cuz we all know dongles work, atari proved it!"
asciilifeform: (unless you own an electron microscope and have a few year's worth of free time. in which case you can inspect YOUR PARTICULAR example.)
asciilifeform: Joshua-I: main problem is that it is a single-chip item that is not in any meaningful way inspectable.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "restrict mining market" thing, as experimented by crown jool debeers, is a major schtick because of its implications for oil, russia and in general. remember how just about when independent countries gathered enough technological mommentum to build exportable lightbulbs, the item "had to be upgraded" ?
asciilifeform: meanwhile someone is laughing all the way to the bank, selling raw materials for 2-3x their normal price by affixing 'fair trade' shiny sticker. previously this only worked for food, and only in a few locales, in usa, where folks temporarily have more money than sense
pete_dushenski: then we'll see who's a kulak!
pete_dushenski: then ima start selling 'back-up crypto generators' with no return policies for $2k a pop
pete_dushenski: "Today we're announcing an experiment in Chrome where a small fraction of connections between desktop Chrome and Google's servers will use a post-quantum key-exchange algorithm in addition to the elliptic-curve key-exchange algorithm that would typically be used. By adding a post-quantum algorithm on top of the existing one, we are able to experiment without affecting user security. The post-quantum algor
a111: Logged on 2016-07-07 22:14 pete_dushenski: "In 2012, the U.S. Department of Agriculture estimated that a middle-income American family is likely to spend $234,900 to raise a child born in 2011 to age 17. If the kid goes to college, that figure may double." << though half a mil on a sjw you couldn't bring yourself to kill would suck the life force out of a sultan.
mircea_popescu: a nation of liars, as it were.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-07 22:12 pete_dushenski: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/06/many-americans-will-tell-you-having-kids-made-them-happier-theyre-probably-lying/ << ben_vulpes might have a foxy actress cum houseperson and a panda to call his own, but that doesn't make him happy!!elevan
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-07#1498935 << more like a case of "ustards telling you something enmasse, they're DEFINITELY lying. much better odds they are saying it for some meta reason (such as, they read it in the latest cookbook, is the way to make friends out of plywood and influenza people) than for the direct. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (i imagine this was a network timeout mostly)
mircea_popescu: trinque :D just trolling you a little
BingoBoingo: Still faster than a fiat notary public
Joshua-I: Serious lag on deedbot for a min
shinohai: Yup thought I'd never catch up on those #b-a lawgz lately
pete_dushenski: and a log is not THE log
pete_dushenski: ahahahaha dude... why would i be reading b-a logs ?
ben_vulpes: *a* log, at least.
pete_dushenski: seems like a sane way to cook the inside of the tater so it's not mushy and gross but wdik
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: DC is a swamp so wet box could very well be in DC
pete_dushenski: i think a wet cardboard box would be paradise compared to dc
trinque: ignoring unused arguments; it's a feature!
BingoBoingo: $up Chicago Your city is a shithole
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> blame the septagenarian struggle to lead the lemmings off the cliff or mordor's highest peak. or just blame potato science 'experts' spouting off about whatever the fuck happiness is in the first place. << Or give in and get a set of potato nails
pete_dushenski: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2016/07/yuval_levin_on_1.html << not a bad episode for the armchair anthropologist log reader. the girl and i took away different key messages (her : pure individualism leads to ruin, i : pure mega-statalism leads to ruin), but it was full of reasonably well-articulated arguments from inside the american echo chamber
pete_dushenski: "In 2012, the U.S. Department of Agriculture estimated that a middle-income American family is likely to spend $234,900 to raise a child born in 2011 to age 17. If the kid goes to college, that figure may double." << though half a mil on a sjw you couldn't bring yourself to kill would suck the life force out of a sultan. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/06/many-americans-will-tell-you-having-kids-made-them-happier-theyre-probably-lying/ << ben_vulpes might have a foxy actress cum houseperson and a panda to call his own, but that doesn't make him happy!!elevan ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-07 18:42 thestringpuller: "Quite funny that a random altcoin exchange like poloniex is far more profitable than a company that has raised more than 100 million USD." << in coinbase "we need more money plz" news.
mircea_popescu: lol, they cautiously avoided noticing this while mpex was publicly traded, NOW it's a point of discussion ? color me flattered, what.
thestringpuller: "Quite funny that a random altcoin exchange like poloniex is far more profitable than a company that has raised more than 100 million USD." << in coinbase "we need more money plz" news. ☟︎
asciilifeform: dunno, made for a germany of capons
mircea_popescu: whereas all these shitty attempts - not a decade in greece, not a decade in argentina etc. bullcrap.
mircea_popescu: here's the thing : bronco riding is a time-dependent event. do it for too short intervals, the bronco gets the idea it's tough.
mircea_popescu: i'm a man of taste.
mircea_popescu: ironically - democratic greece is a fucking eyesore when compared to "tyrannyzed" greece.
asciilifeform: from same page: '"First," he said, "because it is not fit that I should sit as a judge and nobody to be hanged; secondly, you must be hanged because you have a damned hanging look; thirdly, you must be hanged because I am hungry. There's a law for ye, ye dog. Take him away.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno, really. it's a pot calling kettle black situation, neither side of this debate is in much position to claim cultural ancientitude.
mircea_popescu: not that a) i can even for a second imagine it wasn't entirely merited nor b) reached at any point the level of my disdain for argentinians.
mircea_popescu: ~ darker than the gypsies (slaves, at the time), you spent years begging around here, you, well received yet failed to profer as much as thanks. we fed you bread and salt (i dunno, it's a romanian thing) and wine from our ample cave, but when the morn came you took a shit in the flowerbed, laughing. then through thousand year old forests walked to no apparent benefit (literally, for love of the ho), and so there you see : no
mircea_popescu: apparently there's a lot of bad blood there. i had nfi.
asciilifeform: 'failed state' is about hillary not daring to land there and derp on a podium.
asciilifeform: 'the art of not being governed' had a lengthy and imho quite pointed discussion of this.
mircea_popescu: "buy enough land - get your own autonomous oblast" would be a decent deal.
asciilifeform: this is also a thing, unofficially, but you gotta be chinese to play.
asciilifeform: and not big enough, at any rate, to be too far from a place that does
asciilifeform: the most you can expect is something like a road, somewhere nearby.
asciilifeform: what, mircea_popescu thought there would be a million takers ?
asciilifeform: why would that make a difference ?
mircea_popescu: also, a hectare ? wtf is that. we're talking by the dc, 10kmsq.
mircea_popescu: in general "get free land" sorta deal is you know, a jew-targetted thing. also how china started its rise.
mircea_popescu: i want to be a ru citizen just about as much as i want to be an us citizen.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, the summa of the thing being that they (stupidly) decided to give the feds ten mile square ; the northerners wanted it in a big city, the slave interest down south. eventuyally hamilton managed to trade the south undertaking a share of the northern foreign debt in exchange for putting the capital down by virgina.
asciilifeform: washington owned a swamp.
mircea_popescu: ie, the original idea was much more a la tmsr than a la usg.
asciilifeform: would prolly go from musket to graser beam in a year.
mircea_popescu: lucky him he didn't live these days, what a fine hitler icon they could have cut out of his hide.
ben_vulpes: not actually a fence i pissed on myself.
ben_vulpes: to the mechanical engineer, an insulator is just a resistor with a high ohmic value.
ben_vulpes: but the core element was "cf is a resistor it turns out!"
ben_vulpes: sure. does imply a closed circuit. eg someone else doing the same thing elsewhere
mircea_popescu: but for this you'd need a closed circuit...
mircea_popescu: but no, how'd ground to frame short it ? carbon fibre's a dielectric
mircea_popescu: the 60s are a long way away.
mircea_popescu: maybe next they build a cherry bomb shaped aircraft carrier. complete with the fuse.
mircea_popescu: iercer trimaran hull from, constructed exclusively of infused vinylester carbon fibre cored sandwich materials for all structural elements, with external "stealth" geometry and features intended to reduce detection. The KRI Klewang (625) caught fire because of an electrical short-circuit in the engine room during a maintenance period on September 28, 2012 and was a total loss."
mircea_popescu: "First launched on 31 August 2012 at Bali Strait, 63M Carbon Fibre Composite Trimaran Fast Missile Boat (Indonesian: Kapal Cepat Rudal [KCR]) named KRI Klewang (625) - a traditional Indonesian single edge sword, was the first stealth trimaran of the Indonesian Navy built by North Sea Boats at Banyuwangi, East Java, Indonesia. This ship combined a number of existing advance technologies into a single, unique platform; a wave-p
mats: covertress: you should direct your efforts to something more productive than trying to jam your hands in a money printer not meant for you
mircea_popescu: well, all i know on the topic is that "krypton" is a superman thing
shinohai: You say that like it's a bad thing.
mircea_popescu: i dunno. if a bunch of blondies decide to inspect the abandoned house in the middle of the night, what usually happens to them ?
mircea_popescu: for that matter, see http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/ ; fact is you're playing today in a novel written years ago, among others by yours truly. see the part that starts with "yet another one of them".
covertress: ok, now we're just getting into a semantic debate.
mircea_popescu: covertress a) it's not actual money and b) a dying empire bleeds money. they spent some on the taliban, too.
mircea_popescu: mats i recall the last time i was in a roomfull of engineers who decided they needed concrete but didn't know how to pour it. we were about seven, playing on riverside.
mats: thats a clue you're in a room full of dunces
thestringpuller: "blockchain" "internet of things" "easy money" "get rich quick" "work from home 2 hours a day"
covertress: if you all think ETH is a scam, then I think I found the right room :)
mircea_popescu: anyway, the situation here is that you're a restaurant manager doing ok, and one day a guy walks in and convinces you to go into business to open your own chain of restaurants built inside tessaract buildings.
mats: fun fact, ethereum is a scam
shinohai: You get hypercubes a lot?
covertress: mircea_popescu: I get that a lot. but, no one knows how determined I am. :)
mircea_popescu: you know what a hypercube is ?
mircea_popescu: covertress well, your attitude's lovely and all, but unfortunately a) you've bit on something you can't actually swallow and b) i see no direct way to explain this to you in such a way it'd make sense, owing to your complete lack of even vaguely related experience. what'd i build on ?
mircea_popescu: ok, so you've been out of it 15 years doing what, raising a coupla kids ? what were you doing before that ?
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: I really love the survival aspect of events like that, and just existing. Porcfest sounds like it takes it a step further with sessions and panels or what not...
covertress: think they like to watch me fall on my face a lot. lol
danielpbarron suspects this is a gag
asciilifeform: a coverer of tresses ?