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mod6: but i was thinking that it would either be removed from the tree, OR, would simply just have something edited in the subject. like "DONE: Blah Blah ticket for something"
mod6: mircea_popescu: so during development, i decided not to allow assignment for tickets; i wanted to encourage all to look at tickets and possibly propose solutions or changes to even patches submitted (denoted in the notes section??)
mod6: im sortof overly paraniod about 80 col wraps. if i set a command in vim to do it for me, i feel like its not always consistant.
mod6: sorry, i must have overlooked that
mod6: also, i think it may read a bit better if "proposed" becomes "proposals"
mod6: oh, i typically wrap at 80 by hand.
mod6: oh, alright. i was just looking at some others that had paragraph tags in there. wasn't sure.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell jurov Sorry for the ambiguity. I mean you could help mod6 with the disposition of his shares.
asciilifeform: (because, i suppose, they were also retarded children??)
a111: Logged on 2016-06-11 02:30 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: if i was at that life stage (yes, it's coming!) then i will have one garage for five cars and another of ~equal size~ for back-up power
asciilifeform: i tread spinning rust as i once treated tape
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: np. i have several on speed dial.
asciilifeform: noisy == 'i can hear it'
asciilifeform: do i need moar reasons ?
mircea_popescu: i famously ~stole~ a 200hp excavator as a 6 yo.
ben_vulpes: "might be interesting to look at" as a legal problem cracked me up when i first learned of it
ben_vulpes: now i need a sophistry gas mask
ben_vulpes: point i was seeking to make is that as much as usians like to bitch about cost of health insurance and what it doesn't cover, they have no idea what pain is lurking in the near future
mircea_popescu: we both fuck the same sick girl. i don't care and you die of a brain abscess.
ben_vulpes: if it leaves me eating dust and my children picking pockets i will go to the street gladly having seen it
ben_vulpes: oh i am waiting for the great implosion of unwrangleable complexity
ben_vulpes: i'm a peripherial acquaintance with another cult that occasionally writes, say, templating languages in c. for use from c.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 21:10 davout: ben_vulpes: as much as rails is in many ways retarded i tend to think that if this were true, folks would write websites in straight c
a111: Logged on 2016-06-11 01:27 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1480691 << i never considered ruby/django/bullshit for trilema. neither did ANYONE who ever made a tmsr website, unless i'm missremembering. it's just not useful - if it were, i guess we'd be using it.
mircea_popescu: am i the only one that's very amused by this joke ? guess so huh.
asciilifeform: i can't speak for pete_dushenski , but i don't have a diddler staff hut at even one...
pete_dushenski: unless i'm mistaken, this is within alf's modest ability, and he is not statal superpower
pete_dushenski: maybe i'm thick but how is packet diddling 'heavy weapons' ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: if i was at that life stage (yes, it's coming!) then i will have one garage for five cars and another of ~equal size~ for back-up power ☟︎
pete_dushenski: mod6: last year too. i think i mighta had that card, which is why it rang that memory's bell
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: considering that the whole ministry hasn't been closed down and personnel - jailed as members of a criminal org - i'd say the pretense is maintained.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: but then why use superpower so inefficiently ? it's like 'i have x-ray vision, but only when i look at this angled mirror at you'
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1480374 << seems like a lot of busywork to circumvent own rule, which i suppose only goes to show that http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1480384 is the controlling point. head would never do this to self, ergo no head. ☝︎☝︎
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1480213 << i lolled ☝︎
shinohai: I remembered it being mentioned somewhere but have yet to find the ref
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 21:33 davout: if what i want is sell dildos online, and $framework runs on 15$/month box, wtf do i need a website that could run on a ti-89 for x10000 the price?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 21:31 davout: the point is that wtf do i need golden toilet for, i shit just as fine on a regular one!
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 21:10 davout: ben_vulpes: as much as rails is in many ways retarded i tend to think that if this were true, folks would write websites in straight c
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1480691 << i never considered ruby/django/bullshit for trilema. neither did ANYONE who ever made a tmsr website, unless i'm missremembering. it's just not useful - if it were, i guess we'd be using it. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 20:46 ben_vulpes: i went to upgrade a docker installation and they pulled this gorgeous trick where they actually deny access to repos based on docker client version
shinohai: I have a draft of a Wendy's CC hack coverup going on.
davout: "have larger club, kill more enemies, rape moar of their daughters", pretty clear to me. "intentionnally shit in my own soup, so i can remain employed as a maker of fresh soup, as a general thing" is something i have a bit more trouble seeing though
davout: while i don't care much for docker specifically, i don't think it's a good approach to blame people's stupidity and lazyness on *tools*. sure it makes it easier to be retarded. and if your point is that it makes every sane's person job harder, why not, i can agree with that
davout: i'm not sure i agree with the generalization
davout: i can see your parallel with the fiat world through the mere existence of the "technical debt" expression
asciilifeform: currently these folx are living in a golden age of 'i'll take a shit as big as i like and somebody ~else~ will clean up'
davout: if what i want is sell dildos online, and $framework runs on 15$/month box, wtf do i need a website that could run on a ti-89 for x10000 the price? ☟︎
davout: the point is that wtf do i need golden toilet for, i shit just as fine on a regular one! ☟︎
asciilifeform: how many 'i wanna web site!111' folks are ready to pay for a year of 'there are 100 of me' time.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 21:10 davout: ben_vulpes: as much as rails is in many ways retarded i tend to think that if this were true, folks would write websites in straight c
asciilifeform: (nor, i suspect, could he do this even if he wanted to - would have to also fix 1,001 turdware libs that the sufferers use, each of which will never be fixed because some 3-man shop somewhere also needs to eat... etc)
davout: i blame 16gb of ram being seen as a small-sized server as the main cause of lazyness
davout: well, i think that this is a result of people being stupid and lazy, not really much more
davout: ben_vulpes: as much as rails is in many ways retarded i tend to think that if this were true, folks would write websites in straight c ☟︎☟︎☟︎
davout: you could fix the cessna i fly with a toothpick and some wire, doesn't mean that the existence of the A380 is justified by the creation of labor for the cattle
davout: now i see
davout: asciilifeform: i don't see much of a link between "dependency mess" and "lack of automation"
davout: i definitely agree that this applies to rails the phramework, but i am and will openly remain a rubyrast
davout: i found a lot of peace and pleasure in learning, and coding a bit, in straight c
ben_vulpes: i actually had to walk django-compressor backwards through its released versions, something like 3 whole major releases just to get it to work with the django 1.3.5 that this site needed
ben_vulpes: i wanted that old ubuntu for a motherfucking reason
ben_vulpes: i went to upgrade a docker installation and they pulled this gorgeous trick where they actually deny access to repos based on docker client version ☟︎
ben_vulpes: no, but do you know what i'm going to do? buy a fucking laptop engrave your company's name on it charge you for it install your shit on it and keep it.
davout: ben_vulpes: i guess that sucks...
ben_vulpes: meanwhile i need to boot rails app X running ruby version Y with subtly different deps from rails app Z running ruby version Q in about five minutes.
ben_vulpes: "oh well i usually just work on one thing for 9-18 months at a stretch, jump to a new job and then wipe the entire install after a week of tearing my hair out"
davout: i probably have much less experience than you juggling between X turds from Y different clients
davout: i usually beat those into submission so they work with the ruby i use
davout: either install ruby package or build ruby from source, at least that's how *i* do it
davout: ben_vulpes: i never understood the appeal of these turds...
ben_vulpes: i'm talking chruby rbenv and friends
mircea_popescu: in other dubious news, this country is fucking incomprehensible. so i made mayo out of the greatest fucking eggs. clearly corn fed, happy chickens. same shop, tomatoes... the mealiest most retardedly disgusting ship-grown tomatoes. wtf! it's like they only shave half their face.
asciilifeform: i predict that before long, folks will do this.
asciilifeform: it was the other end of a cpp thing i was doing for money. tried to reconstruct its natural habitat, to test...
asciilifeform: 'I'm going to close and lock this conversation, because I don't see any meaningful progress on reproducing the issue in the last month or so, and because of the unproductive conversations and noise.
asciilifeform: '@zenspider Mocking me? Honestly?!? And the "it works on my machine" response? I really appreciate the work people put into sharing their software with others, but you need to learn to treat people with respect who are trying to help improve your product. I need this for a new system I have inheirited. The first thing I am going to do is get rid of the dependency on your project.'
asciilifeform: eh all vermin say, 'that shit i just shat, it isn't shit, see, my arse emits only flowers and sunshine'
asciilifeform: i can't even wholly figure out what happened there.
asciilifeform: i am wearing 3 gas masks.
mircea_popescu: "mpapis commented Dec 22, 2014 it is standard and harmless thing, but ruby could allow filtering out this flags, this could be done as part of the filtration process that already happens in preprocessing in miniruby - but I do not think it would be considered as a ticket without pull request / patch to address this problem."
mircea_popescu: "behrangsa commented Dec 22, 2014 @mpapis, I didn't know that. If this is something common to gems with native extensions, etc. and how MRI works and it is harmless, then I have no complaints. "
mircea_popescu: myeah. i'm sure floating randomly is not sailing.
mircea_popescu: or wait, im confusing him with rms again aren't i.
Framedragger: god i should stop regurgitating my firm's propaganda
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: IP is not just source code but shit like brand etc, and goodwill behind it. i'm not defending the foundation of IP, just sayin
asciilifeform: (it is possible to use amp with higher slew rate and get moar bitz. but i deliberately used conservative design, with common parts)
mircea_popescu: i was discussing capital goods reliability ; as an economic consideration.
mircea_popescu: should be obvious that, eg, this scheme doesn't work for a phone. what, i keep plugging extensions function of who's calling ?
mircea_popescu: now, i can mentally construct a case for using this system ; with physically plugged units etc. you refer to it but don't actually discuss it.
trinque: and perhaps I'm alright with that for certain things, not okay with that on others
trinque: and I also move data bigger than 1tb in a given week
trinque: yeah I do understand
asciilifeform: i can't be the only one who ever did this bit of arithmetic.
shinohai: I wonder if that applies equally to qr codes
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 14:21 mod6: speaking of which, i think I'm going to need to rework this whole antecedent thing. while building it, it seemed to make sense to me, but now, looking at it through a different set of eyes, it seems unintuitive at best, out right backwards at worst.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 17:10 ben_vulpes: then "omg tensions were so high yesterday i don't want to come in"
mircea_popescu: as in "i'm not making contracts with you get lost"
mircea_popescu: somehow i doubt it comes to anything, but whadda i know.
ben_vulpes: i can't be arsed to shuck either of their inedible exteriors.
ben_vulpes: why would i give a shit about the bitterness of a cure for a made up ailment i ask you