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mircea_popescu: great to not live in the us.
mircea_popescu: they're not telling the truth about telling the lie!
kakobrekla: so they really are lying more than bfl?
kakobrekla: are you saying they are lying about lying
pigeons: "we lie much less than bfl!"
pigeons: except for all the lying
Bowjob: theres the april one, then theres a july one
mircea_popescu: don't tell me they;ve moved to july ?
Bowjob: We seem to have stabilized
mircea_popescu: Original article today at 12:10: Hackers attacked this morning website of Czech banks reported Novinky.cz server.
jurov: (should translate)
ThickAsThieves: i blame the russians
jurov: ofc, they did not reveal parameters
jurov: btw in roughly the same timeframe, sites of several czech banks got ddosed
jurov: or dunno, maybe they attacked the server to stole all the pics from /dtng ?
jurov: but there was no major movement on mpex during the attack iirc
jurov: lol double paranoia: "look who retained access to the sites under attack"
ThickAsThieves: asicminer hasnt really been giving any detailed financials have they?
ThickAsThieves: pass the foil hat plz
jborkl: Asicminer quick back of the napkin - 4400 approx blocks per month * 25.2 = 110880 BTC month / percentage of network asicminer has 15.3% = 16964 BTC
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i think it's just doing the ddos part.
ThickAsThieves: to manipulate things
ThickAsThieves: maybe they are identifyng all weaknesses in btc world
ThickAsThieves: all this probing, surely theyd have explored some holes
ThickAsThieves: way more likely than nvc-haters
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i just added everything that came to mind there to see what people say
ThickAsThieves: doing the ddos
ThickAsThieves: i didnt really think about how BTC-e was probably the same crew
ThickAsThieves: mp ^ typo
ThickAsThieves: (and once before in January but that didn’t much at all),
mircea_popescu: i'd appreciate if anyone puts that up on reddit/wherever, distributes it
jborkl: good timing
burnside: it works by taking the share count you currently have, and working backwards in your trade history figures out the weighted average purchase price for the shares you're currently holding
burnside: <ThickAsThieves> not sure if this is a silly question, but in BTCT's Analysis area, when i sell a share, which value does it use to determine the value of that one share if I paid various prices and own many?
ThickAsThieves: but there are clear ways to profit
ThickAsThieves: tiberiusv thats an overstatement
tiberiusiv: daytrading is no different then playing satoshi dice
ThickAsThieves: i do think you have to be at least a little bit of a day trader and btc enuthusiast to have a chance of keeping up
tiberiusiv: without taxes + reg burdens most stock market dividends would be 30-80% higher then they are today
jurov: As long as whole thing remains unregulated, there will be new HYIPs, some even legit.
ThickAsThieves: or should i say, compared to wall st
ThickAsThieves: but thats so high in the scheme of things
ThickAsThieves: today i can be picky and say and choose from stuff that pays 1%, 2%, 5% per month
jurov: yes, dramatic price increase then... and that's bad thing?
jurov: ThickAsThieves: how they will get squeezed?
ThickAsThieves: and which assets will be most resilient to that
ThickAsThieves: which will get squeezed to be smaller over time
ThickAsThieves: i think there are some other factors to consider re stock values that people aret considering,
jborkl: 6th from am- 10 from avalon and the 24 we had before
ThickAsThieves: asic is at 6th i think
jborkl: how many th
jborkl: how much is asicminer supposed to be?
jborkl: network is at 39 th
tiberiusiv: unknows are like 55-60% of the pool now
jborkl: 300 units by 68- should be about 20 th from avalon- depending on what is delivered
ThickAsThieves: do they mostly use ozcoin?
ThickAsThieves: are they i havent been keeping up i guess
mircea_popescu: judging by how unknowns have shrunk the asicminer pools
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so far avalons seem to be dominating hashing
ThickAsThieves: but obv Luke Jr will save the day for BFL, he's our HeeRo right?
ThickAsThieves: if the asic release climate remains unchanged, other than asicminer getting 60TH online
Namworld: Some think it's undervalued... idk
Anduck: i think it's way high...
Anduck: what do you guys think of ASICMINER share value?
jcpham: you don't need a terahash
Namworld: They'd probably all switch to solo
Namworld: oddly enough, A good idea it would appear, but you'd need people to stick to those pools for like a whole difficulty to bring it down.
jcpham: well back when things were simpler...
mircea_popescu: jcpham how does that work ? spend a week on a block ?
mircea_popescu: lol ya that didn't work too well huh.
jcpham: seems like no one is trying that anymore
jcpham: taking the pools offline at the same time and solomining is probably the most profitable thing you can do
Namworld: I could have had 2k if mircea hadn't borrowed them to short long ago xD
Anduck: (those were my shares that got sold btw=
Namworld: I refresh but it loads in like 0.25 seconds here each time.
Namworld: I'll assume someone manipulated the price, sold a bunch near 30-50 and his now trying to impact Bitcoin negatively. But only because I don't like the idea someone would do it for entertainment purposes/spite.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves if you look there, it loaded for like 2% of the browsers. typical ddos sympthom
mircea_popescu: you prolly rode the storm
Namworld: oh. I only tried once but it loaded
mircea_popescu: i think they're getting da ddos.
jborkl: he thought he would invest in less than 1
Namworld: Would be funny that BFL never delivers...
jurov: oh, why nobody told him to buy s.dice stock? must fix.
jurov: saw that thead... guy wanted to invest, lost all to sdice
mircea_popescu: The computers that run www.bitinstant.com are having some trouble. Usually this is just a temporary problem, so you might want to try again in a few minutes.
jurov: so, bitcoins end up being considered gateway drug and banned thus? funny
Namworld: I hope it's not too lonely out there.
mircea_popescu: Could not connect to remote server
skytrader_: I can go to www.btc-e.com but I can't load any other page
mircea_popescu: im wrapped up too tight.
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding midnightmagic's copacetic delusions, the majority of the population lives confined to a vinyl siding box with a lcd screen in it. that's all, all day long, weeks after weeks after weeks.
mircea_popescu: i think you underestimate just how empty the average life is.
jcpham: what causes people to share that much info with strangers
jcpham: ya me too
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i have no idea tbh
mircea_popescu: i want trader joe;'s specifically
ThickAsThieves: mp, doesnt bitmit have those?
ChubbyBeavers: i normally convert to amazon these days
jurov: moment, he has to redo it... unpacked it, the win directory was full with .so files and ELF binaries :D
jborkl: smicklies, i can give it a try also