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mod6: mircea_popescu: well, i think it's a better, cleaner practice.

mod6: one inflates the trb universe into bitcoin, the other into v. i guess it doesn't have to be that way.. v-genesis could be added later on down the line as a leaf node. but then it probably shouldn't be named "genesis" as that seems to break the convention.

mircea_popescu: mod6 the part where each press should end up collected in the /genesis-hash/ dir is settled, i thought ?

mod6: mircea_popescu: i mean, if i have genesis.vpatch (trb) and v-genesis.vpatch in http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/

mod6: so i kinda see this in two ways. either i place v/t/whatever into /v/ and we have many multiple roots, inwhich case when you pull from the mirror you end up with the following dirs: bitcoin, t, v, whatever, ... or we can break this up into multiple projects.

a111: Logged on 2016-02-08 20:09 ascii_butugychag: i will half-seriously suggest that we refer to the ~set of patches, seals, keys~ that a particular vtron is aware of at his particular point in spacetime, as... his lightcone

asciilifeform: 'Gov. Rick Scott of Florida said on Monday that he had asked Mr. Obama to issue a federal emergency declaration for his state. “Yesterday’s terror attack was an attack on our state and entire nation,” Mr. Scott said in a statement. “This morning, I have asked President Obama to declare an emergency so that the full resources of the federal government can be made available for all those impacted by this horrific massacre.” I

asciilifeform: 'When asked during the news conference if there was a chance that people might have been struck by friendly fire or in the crossfire, Chief Mina said: “I will say that is all part of the investigation. But I will say when our SWAT officers, about eight or nine officers, opened fire, their backdrop was a concrete wall. And they were being fired upon, so that is all part of the investigation.”'

mircea_popescu: uh. i dun think what you're thinking about is being discussed.

a111: Logged on 2016-06-13 23:43 mod6: Which also means, it almost makes no sense to even publish the v-genesis.vpatch that I currently have as it is no use to anyone if they can't grab a canonical version from the mirror. All they'd be able to do is get it from the mailing list, with the seal, and drop it into their local working directory as one would expect.

asciilifeform: if i want to use, e.g., shiva genesis, in some other tool, there is no reason to duplicate it

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 if i want trb i don't need to ask for '/trb/whateverthefuck-fixes-retardation.vpatch', asking for whateverthefuck-fixes-retardation.vpatch must suffice !

phf: i rarely have an inclination to bring rifle to burn like events, and the kind of events that allow rifles are a bit too beer&jesus for my taste. or whatever jesus substitute they do dawkins science.

phf: i think that's a pretty common transition

ben_vulpes: i just lost patience with other people's bullshit

ben_vulpes: phf: i dun really 'burn' anymore

phf: in any case portland to nevada looks like a great drive, i think i'm going to do a purely recreational drive from colorado or wyoming

phf: i take it with baby vulpes you're not coming this year?

ben_vulpes: but i do like my summer lake stop

phf: well, then i've no idea how you work on mvs unless you go to oakland for summer pre event or something

ben_vulpes: i think that's why i like working on the mvs

phf: but yeah i don't imagine any of that stuff is reusable after a burn

phf: i've been building with the same master carpenter so we usually start with a pile of wood, pile lag bolts and dodgy plans from various artist friends, so speed and malleability are prime considerations

ben_vulpes: i learned on the mutant vehicles before doing any pyreworks, so have a built-in preference for reusable steel stuffs

phf: well, since it sounds like we're both talking from burn build experience, some people get impact drills and some don't. if i overtorque i just put a second one next to it. it's not pretty, but it ensures that bunch of drugged out hippies can do somersaults on the thing

ben_vulpes: i swear i didn't invent this one!

ben_vulpes: i'm trying to dig up the original source of this design and completely failing

ben_vulpes: phf: naw i mean like overtorquing and wallowing out a destructive fastener hole.

ben_vulpes: or perhaps some do, i never got to party with the 3lite sillicon valley crowd

phf: BingoBoingo: i think there are cases where impact driver applies, like if your bit gets stuck in metal, and you want to power through it, but like others said, don't drill metal with general bits. i've used impact driver on large wood builds and it's a joy to use, the torgue makes for a very rapid but controlled coupling. i think i might've grabbed one to do drilling in a pinch, but i wouldn't say i noticed much difference one way or

mircea_popescu: i recall the word cleave being used but teh search is unhelpful

mod6: ah cool, my graph did turn out right. lol. "i can use my own thing!"

mod6: we'll see if i did that all backwards lol.

mod6: yeah, i'll have to work out something with that. i think on the server side, the hash value as dir name is a nice touch

mod6: yeah, i might need to alias as 7ad78d38... might get unwieldy for users.

mod6: ok. i kinda like that.

mircea_popescu: mod6 sounds ok. i'm just trying to figure out how to best employ your power wrench is all :)

mod6: Which would be fine, but seems like I should just wait until after 99994, then one can grab V, and use V to do V things. It's a mind bender. :]

mod6: Which also means, it almost makes no sense to even publish the v-genesis.vpatch that I currently have as it is no use to anyone if they can't grab a canonical version from the mirror. All they'd be able to do is get it from the mailing list, with the seal, and drop it into their local working directory as one would expect. ☟︎☟︎

mod6: What does this mean for us: It means that I need to implement the ability to grab named projects from the mirror. This will require a new version of V (99994), updating documentation et. al.

mod6: I haven't started work in that direction yet, just wanted to bring it up.

mod6: meanwhile, I've created a v-genesis.vpatch

mod6: and while I'm at it here... I have been considering schemes for doing longer notes. will keep working on that.

tb0t: Project: trb, ID: 30, Type: I, Subject: Investigate a new design for the Wallet, Antecedents: , Notes: An investigation must be conducted to create a specification for a reimplemented wallet. The outcome of this will drive ticket 29.

mod6: If I were to do it, i might just add a note in ther ethat says "wallet functionality and ``caching transactions'' need to be perm. separated."

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> oh and mod6 - suppose i want to add the observation that really, the wallet functionality and the "caching transactions" functionality should be separated in bitcoin - there's no conceivable reason to store the latter in the former for instance. how would i go about adding this to the bitcoin tickets ? ask you ? do something myslef ? << you certainly can feel free to help me round out the t

mod6: <+BingoBoingo> speaking of coolies mod6, asciilifeform et al: anyone ever use a hexbit drill chuck to make holes using an impact driver? << not sure if I've ever done that specifically. done a lot of impact/air-ratchet wrench work on cars. tons of misc shit with drills.

BingoBoingo: Or I guess solving plastic is the bigger threat

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I *had* a working drill. Can still have working drill If I want to gamble on sovent to beat this flavor of loctite without also disolving plastic.

mircea_popescu: “The Chinese coolie is the ideal industrial machine, the perfect human ox. He will transform less food into more work, with less administrative friction, than any other creature...Also, they cost nothing but money.” << from what i understand this is getting fixed these days.

mircea_popescu: anyway, the ww2 hostilities were a mutually ratcheting of various acts, i don't see the argument. if they sold to japan it would have been === selling to germany.

mircea_popescu: for some reason i was discussing more like 1900.

mircea_popescu: i dun see the historical backing for your reading.

asciilifeform: 'I give you Count Okuma of the Tokyo Hochi, “…a race of thieves with the hearts of rabbits. America to any warrior race, is not as a foe, but as an immense melon, ripe for the cutting…North America alone will support a billion people; that billion shall be Japanese with their slaves. Not arid Asia, not worn out Europe (which, with its peculiar and quaint relics and customs, should in the interest of history and culture, be in a

mircea_popescu: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=526 << this is actually a surprising cogent summary, esp considering the source. i wonder who he's stolen from.

asciilifeform: was spiffier than any office or living room i've ever personally stuck my snout into

asciilifeform: it had some (i forget who) 'godfather' type's prison cell, re-created

mircea_popescu: i thought nothing in particular tbh

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu moar circus clowns: https://github.com/joshua-m-david/jerichoencryption << there is a pestilential profusion of these 'i'ma STROOOONG CRYYYPTO!!1111 IN NODEJS !111' out there.

asciilifeform: i don't regard idiocies where you are expected to download binaries as 'linux.'

diana_coman: lol, I don't think they actually had any idea what they wanted (or meant for that matter)

mircea_popescu: diana_coman i'm pretty much convinced by now that what the ro crowds actually meant in 1989 by "wanting western democracy" was "we want italian tv"

phf: asciilifeform: i was just about to work a bit on my de-poettterrring-ed gentoo laptop. did they break everything?

Framedragger: this excludes most hetzner ip ranges because hetzner triggers a fuckload of abuse complaints. but i'll soon scan *only them* (which will anger them, and let the hate fiercely flow into /dev/null), which will a buncha hosts to that 21.1M i expect.

Framedragger: ..sooo, ~21.1M ssh hosts with port 22 open in ipv4 space. i expected more, but a time will come for a re-scan, and i finally got around to 'streamlining' the process, and vc's idontcareaboutscans policy helped here, so re-scan will be a piece of cake.

phf: it's the ml crowd, they still manage to dazzle me with their trinkets. and then i think about it for 5 minutes and go "waitaminute"

a111: Logged on 2016-02-18 16:46 asciilifeform has 2 lamps on his dial: 'oh noez, my coinz are worthless' and 'suxx, i'll never afford any moar'

asciilifeform: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=68b_1437283356 << moar lulz from same rag

phf: and this one is for BingoBoingo http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=58a_1464890232

phf: i'm not sure how different it is from lifetime analysis (i mean when done automatically), and i can imagine a bunch of ways in which objects will still leak into some kind of global reclamation area

phf: i heard of technique in a context of Abuse video game, where all the objects that were allocated during calculations for a single screen frame would be abandoned on next frame, which makes sense in this one particular case. i think maybe Seaside had support for that per-request. i guess people came up with formal ways of doing it

phf: asciilifeform: deallocates when you unroll frames, and i guess there are techniques to figure out how up the frame an object has moved from its allocation point

phf: and here i thought diametric was somehow a particularly astute connoisseur of italian cinema

diana_coman: hm, I don't think I know it

mircea_popescu: darn i keep highlighting poor diametric when i want to say diana_coman

mircea_popescu: i'd have gone the other way around. burn the italians.

Framedragger: i mean, i guess it's a system for catalysed darwinian selection?..

mircea_popescu: Framedragger yeah. the difference being that while i wouldn't try to drive in cairo without getting a degree in it first, at least THEY manage to move things reasonably. here, i wouldn't drive unless i had an open license to kill and plentiful ammo, AND they have more traffic, fewer driven miles and more roads than anywhere in the world.

Framedragger: hey i remember cairo; ok so it's worth than cairo; lolol.

phf: i'll just work it out from first principles :D as long as they don't kick me out in horror in the first few hours, i'd be fine

phf: mircea_popescu: i grew up working on cars with my grandfather, was the main dacha activity, i figured what quality of car mechanic would people advertising food&loding on craigslist really need?

trinque: PeterL: I've yet to implement $changekey so sign me a message proving ownership of both keys indicating which you want to use and I'll do it

trinque: asciilifeform: yeah yeah I'm moving it to a new box already

Framedragger: https://sange.fi/esoteric/brainfuck/impl/interp/i.html

Framedragger: i wanted to say the same, and then run from asciilifeform

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-12#1481179 << flagged, but i got a handful leads as far as various work for food and lodgings places last weekend at four quarters ☝︎

mircea_popescu: Framedragger i applaud her too, which is why her scrawny ineffectual efforts get a link. nevertheless, it can't be said she's effectual. she isn't.

Framedragger: i don't know, i applaud her even what she writes is shit and even if her mind is shit, good for her, i think it's easy to sublimate jealousy that shit people can still function as "justified anger" or whatnot </armchair-mode>

mircea_popescu: (and for the ego - back in 2004 when i published asylum editor was like "isn't this a little short ?". apparently i was merely being pioneeric, the notion of "book" dropped half the pages past two decades, from 300something to 150ish.)

mircea_popescu: the film is bad, as a film. but for people entirely unwarare of what curse women are upon themselves in isolation... a decent primer i guess.

mircea_popescu: living the dream, i guess.

mircea_popescu: in other "repository of all human knowledge" news, i give you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snakecharm

mircea_popescu: i think it's more a case of "the last person who knew how any of this worked left a decade ago, we're just idea guys"

Framedragger: PeterL: gpg client should reject subkeys not signed by master key or somesuch, was the argument i think

mircea_popescu: i couldn't give less of a shit about the disparate bits of reality he tried to fashion a disavowal out of.

Framedragger: re. hanno: oh yeah? i had thought he had had a point, re. those broken subkeys not being used anyway. but i guess the point is that phuctor found some *actually used* keys, etc.

Framedragger: someone also tried spidering ssh keys from .onion hosts, and then matching them with ssh keys of ipv4 space; i want to re-try that, too

a111: Logged on 2016-06-13 13:27 mircea_popescu: oh and mod6 - suppose i want to add the observation that really, the wallet functionality and the "caching transactions" functionality should be separated in bitcoin - there's no conceivable reason to store the latter in the former for instance. how would i go about adding this to the bitcoin tickets ? ask you ? do something myslef ?