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mod6: Not a bad idea.
mircea_popescu: so pick one and go do a poetry reading
mod6: There's maybe a few congregating spots dedicated to art, et. al. here where I'm at. Probably in most places.
Framedragger: (oh, and 1. will sign a checksum at some point (soon); and 2. the tarball contains three compressed files which expand into three dirs, with ~600k files per dir; one file = one openpgp key, same as last time)
Framedragger: this concludes the ipv4 ssh key scan (the new keys are due to re-scan + the previously-excluded hetzner hosting ip ranges). i may rescan in a couple of weeks or a month to see how many new etc (and in general it would be a good and interesting exercise, etc.) some kind of writeup will follow...eventually
jurov: iirc it was in first deedbot incarnation and i had to pester the deeds.b-a second deedbot incarnation to reupload it
a111: Logged on 2016-07-13 16:12 mircea_popescu: 90% of it goes into "getting a guy there to do it" and 1% or so into "cartridge price tag"
asciilifeform: but http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-13#1502551 is a point, and it is why folks can't resist the desire to build gigantic cannons - expands the circle of 'there to do it' ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes. they are insanely expensive. you're thinking "oh, it's like a gun, hence railgun". no, it's not. your gun fires a magazine, then needs cleaning, then fires another and will do 10k cycles or more. the rail gun fires one thing, needs servicing, and will do maybe 3 ? 5 ? 12 ?
mircea_popescu: 90% of it goes into "getting a guy there to do it" and 1% or so into "cartridge price tag" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but, in all war, the cost of ammo is mostly a cost of opportunity.
mircea_popescu: if it's not worth hitting with a ~$1k rocket, it's sure as fuck not worth hitting with a ~200k railgun shot.
asciilifeform: most targets (e.g., sampans) weren't worth a torpedo.
mircea_popescu: that's the only projectile of unlimited energy : a rocket. because it slides under the door of air friction.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-13#1502520 << eh, in "theory", which is to say "in the peculiar fictitious narrative some people jack off to". the limiting factor for both is drag, and it ain't going away. "oh but what if we're shooting spherical chickens in a vacuum" "you're still better off with a rocket stfu". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-13 15:34 Framedragger: watching linux kernel dev be managed with v may, i imagine, be a sight of entertainment, but then something tells me alf et al. are against such monolithic codebases in the first place
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-13#1502353 << efficiency has 0 to do with it! calculate, for lulz, the efficiency of making gunpowder and then launching a projectile with it. (it is in single-digit %, at best.) big fat whoop that the gunpowder-making happens on land. the real reason for railgun is illustrated by the failure of the german Hochdruckpumpe cannon. ☝︎
asciilifeform: which is to say, i can overwrite any byte in physical ram from within a driver.
Framedragger: i guess the fact that you need to arrive at a single kernel executable file does not hinder this (cf. all those exokernel projects, not that exokernel architecture is the right approach)
asciilifeform: it is purely a product of sloth, vanity, and deliberate вредительство.
asciilifeform: there is no actual problem that warrants a system of that complexity.
asciilifeform: it is idiocy, just like the idea of a continent-sized office building is
Framedragger: watching linux kernel dev be managed with v may, i imagine, be a sight of entertainment, but then something tells me alf et al. are against such monolithic codebases in the first place ☟︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell Framedragger http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2016/02/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system.html << ben_vulpes wrote a spiffy intro to v.
asciilifeform: consider: you wouldn't sign a contract that has convenient blank pages for the counterparty to add whatever the fuck he wants into , later
asciilifeform: the 'let's use git without central repo, and pass around signed diffs' thing was suggested ages ago, and i wrote v specifically to shoot it in the head; because signed standard diffs, that can be applied 'fuzzily', are evil. v diffs contain hash-on-entry and hash-on-exit, and if either doesn't match, it is a no go.
asciilifeform: nor does the thing force a particular type of crypto signature - any program that functions similarly to pgp, generating a detached signature, can be used.
asciilifeform: Framedragger et al: consider, there is no concept of a 'repo' in v. nor of pulling, nor pushing, nor merging. in fact the thing (as properly implemented) doesn't make any use of network at all.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-13 11:48 Framedragger: this may sound like bait, but.... could you not just use signed commits in git, and enforce use of those commits, and use `git blame`? is the argument against this the usual "git is a shitload of code, best to start anew [and also without existing political associations re. github etc.]", or sth more than that?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-13 04:55 mircea_popescu: but otherwise - i have here this battery, contained in a thin PET cover, ready to do ~1,2 MJ at my command. go, construct battery, compressed coil, box of covenant or lavey's teeth assemblage that can do a mj and fit in a gallon.
Framedragger: heh. i listened to a weirdo almost-atonal musical piece yesterday by a friend who's doing sonology / electronic music (yeah such precise terms, i know). it was fkin great, lots of effort but worth it methinks. but then, the point is that this also counts as 'interpretation', possibly
mircea_popescu: in such a situation we sometimes decide to hammer a source into usability (such as, bitcoin, eulora, etc). but just as often decide to write de novo. how exactly this decision is made is not exactly specified.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger as to your words, the political association of git is at best with linus & the linux folk, i dun see what it has to do with github anymore than sunsets have to do with bad photography. but as to the actual issue : on one hand there's a ton of code there ; on the other there's absent functionality.
mircea_popescu: shinohai for srs, your wp eventually gets a v mode!
Framedragger: this may sound like bait, but.... could you not just use signed commits in git, and enforce use of those commits, and use `git blame`? is the argument against this the usual "git is a shitload of code, best to start anew [and also without existing political associations re. github etc.]", or sth more than that? ☟︎
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: not yet, and that's due to lack of time, and generally lazy vibes over the summer (a festival or two, reading books etc) i know i should take a careful look at v, and i dun want to botch it, hence terribly slow with it
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1502117 << myeah, maybe it's not even that much of a problem; just, lame.. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it's the comic equivalent of a fat ugly woman that doesn't wash or ever shut up.
mircea_popescu: you mean other than "i want to make a comic and don't perceive i should invest into drawing or writing skills, whoever loves me loves for me!" ?
mats: i'm not gonna volunteer, but i think humans wanna get off this rock and thats not a terrible idea
ben_vulpes: "another bucket?! what are you a princess?"
mircea_popescu: well, a one man bukkake's just called "i don't want kids" neh ?
mircea_popescu: i even have a 6 ounce, two-man bukkake bukket.
ben_vulpes: i witnesesd a feller at burning man receive the moniker of 'princess buckets' one time.
mircea_popescu: it's a puke bucket.
Joshua-I: Must be a big bucket
mircea_popescu: it's just a bucket of gasoline.
mircea_popescu: we'll discuss stability afterwards, as a sign of me not thinking i'll have to.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise - i have here this battery, contained in a thin PET cover, ready to do ~1,2 MJ at my command. go, construct battery, compressed coil, box of covenant or lavey's teeth assemblage that can do a mj and fit in a gallon. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: mats yeah, in a post-oil world all sorts of things might make more sense.
mircea_popescu: oh and the caper : obviously the coil is a lc oscillator. the remainder 95 to 99% energy doesn't simply disappear. it COMES BACK in the circuit. going... the other way.
mats: there is the benefit of a nuclear reactor driving the gun
a111: Logged on 2016-07-13 04:32 mircea_popescu: mats it's very hard to beat plain and simple fire-air bombs. you gotta put electricity through coils to make the projectile go magnetically, electricity which you got from a combustion generator in the first place.you're about five transforms away, might as well just put the same gasoline in a bottle and throw it at the enemy.
mircea_popescu: it's a fine theory, now show me the item.
ben_vulpes: keep it from doing that, you have cold, high pressure ambient gas you can dump into a steady state reaction chamber.
ben_vulpes: the only reason is because von braun was a savage.
ben_vulpes: mass in rocket exhaust is a /good thing/ ffs.
mircea_popescu: atmosphere contains water. this is a problem, because mass.
mircea_popescu: nor for that matter of a water-oxidizer mix
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it's a simple problem of mass conservation though. if your compression factor is 1:10, say, and you burn 1 ton of fuel, you then therefore get a cubic kilometer worth of air, which will contain a ton and a half of water, what do you do with it. it doesn't burn, it doesn't go away. nowwut.
mircea_popescu: mats it's very hard to beat plain and simple fire-air bombs. you gotta put electricity through coils to make the projectile go magnetically, electricity which you got from a combustion generator in the first place.you're about five transforms away, might as well just put the same gasoline in a bottle and throw it at the enemy. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: (less useful because a) drag losses and b) accuracy)
mats: i wonder how useful it is as a bunker buster
mats: its a solution to certain tactical problems, but none in the civilian arena
mircea_popescu: anyway, iirc us navy launched a breadbox sized item at about 10km/s or somesuch. cost a little more than a littoral com-sunkship.
mats: being able to hurl a rock at enormous speeds over the horizon seems like a useful capability
ben_vulpes: at that point, you may as well save on fab and engineering costs and submerge a hydrogen gun right under the water
mircea_popescu: it dun work worth a shit, electromagnetism is a self-limiting disease so to speak, but hey.
mircea_popescu: mats you're not the first. that thing's been a solution in search of a problem since ~1916.
mircea_popescu: i guess that's as good a reason as any
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Hic pietatis honos? - http://www.contravex.com/2016/07/12/hic-pietatis-honos/
mircea_popescu: a traitor hero. meh.
mircea_popescu: nah, you now got a hero
asciilifeform: i'd put in a fall:
mircea_popescu: i took it as far as actually having to make a decision, and is stuck now. do i introduce a hero ? do i make it what ?
asciilifeform: 'the epic war between bug and boot' is a short story, indeed
mircea_popescu: seems perfectly adequate an emblem for a calender.
mircea_popescu: "oh i know, we've created a sort of monarchy without a king, basically just the court and nobody there to behead us - we'll call it democracy. if anyone inquires into the matter we can always add modern in front and it'll be all good!" ☟︎
asciilifeform: a great many folks who are in a position to enthrone clitler, by whatever means, regardless of what winblowz CE buttons the sheeple click on in the voting booths, will be doing their thing.
mircea_popescu: lol @ginsburg. she's only there to be a president's whore, who's anyone kidding.
thestringpuller: for and Order Form to send with a
thestringpuller: ^- http://freedomforallseasons.org/AllodialLandPatentReports/DO%20YOU%20HAVE%20ALLODIAL%20TITLE%20ON%20YOUR%20PROPERTY_html.htm << hey he's selling a book for 40 bucks
asciilifeform: http://home.hiwaay.net/~becraft/deadissues.htm << overall very interesting site from a mircea_popescutronic perspective.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if usaschwitz were purchased, invaded, ceded to, occupied by, malevolent martians, very few people would notice a difference.
asciilifeform: 'The vehicle title that you may hold is not a full, paramount title unless you have the Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin (MCO) of the vehicle...and that is held by the State. You are not allowed to possess it. [In almost all cases, new car dealers automatically submit MCOs to the State...unless you insist that it be given to you.] As soon as you "register" your vehicle, if you have an MCO, you must submit it to the State. '
felipelalli: it's not so bad like that, I'm a little paranoid! But you mix the paranoia + some violence and...
mircea_popescu: obviously a few million people do manage to survive amirite :)
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: it's like a big slum, and it is too dangerous.
mircea_popescu: none of this is much helped in respectability by the fact that a common ro language insult for idiotic younger kids / small brothers etc is "ba, pokemonilor", ie, you pokemons.
phf: mircea_popescu: yah, it's not forgotten. i wrote a parser for it, but need to go make sure that negative ids work everywhere
a111: Logged on 2016-07-12 16:24 Framedragger: so husserl's bracketing technique in phenomenology is used for signaling online harassment targets in sociul meedia. world is truly a place of wonder
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: do you own a Nokia 6120?
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/squares-do-morals-a-porno/#footnote_9_49613 << apparently only survives in trilema record.
mircea_popescu: i don't even have a smartphone.
asciilifeform: iirc hofstadter had a very similar thought.
mircea_popescu: recursion is prolly the core of the pons ; tbh much more than "iq <100" vs "iq > 100" traditionally translated as "college man" vs "common man" or w/e ; "comprehends recursion" is much better a divide.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: I really hated the original gameboy transfer mechanism when wireless became a thing. Easier to battle and trade with your friends between classrooms.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-12 17:35 BingoBoingo: lobbes: Incidentally "classic" poke-a-mans would be useful for developing a rudimentary sneakernet.
thestringpuller: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1502086 << dunno. cables were annoying as fuck. and even with wi-fi not even cazalla got a chance to play X or Y with me. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ie, what happened was, rocket locked, launched, heli got "incoming" alert, fired a pair of flares, rocket actually missed it but got the tail anyway