asciilifeform: humidifier + ac is disaster though, damp everywhere.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: many folx here have a 'humidifier', separate gadget

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what would that do ? if you cool the air, and lower the dew point, not even garden hose will make it hold any more water than remained in it after the cooling

asciilifeform: summer for asciilifeform is an alternating 10min of 'hot' and 'cold'

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i always wished there were such a thing as an ac with a throttle

asciilifeform: i do know that there are places where the air is hot and ~dry~, and ac has no drain pipe -- but never yet been there.

asciilifeform: asciilifeform once switched planes in panama and ( it had outdoor walk, instead of the customary human pipe ) thought 'just like home'

asciilifeform: it's one of the worst things in dc, it is

asciilifeform misread '90% humanity'

asciilifeform: cr must be near the peak of the equator's stupification field

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu described argentines as borderline tards but i don't recall hearing a story like this about them...

asciilifeform did, ftr, end up descending into the darkest depths of his chamber of pain and cracking a b00k, with the aim of determining -- which. this op has not yet returned.

asciilifeform is not and has not ever been employed as an astrologer, cannot comment usefully

asciilifeform: ( models of bad rngs, such as shitoshi's )

asciilifeform: actually pertinent to my current kick, even.

asciilifeform puts on conveyor

asciilifeform: attempts to model brownian motion.

asciilifeform: oh hah it turns out to actually have existed, somewhere

asciilifeform: was 'ito calculus' authored by same 'genius' as 'igonvalue' ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have it running instrumented presently, soon will see why zombies.

asciilifeform: reorg!111

asciilifeform: what's it called when trump hands them the delishious-syrian-chicken after all ?

asciilifeform: wtf is a 'consensus failure' ?

asciilifeform: i386-pc-sco3.2v5.0.5 << apparently someone, somewhere! (in a cave?!)

asciilifeform: Run Moar Slowaris

asciilifeform: https://archive.is/HDN6Y << seems to be the ~same thing, organized by orifice type

asciilifeform: ( or for anyone else with good logging on his boxes and a strong sense of lol )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al ^

asciilifeform: meanwhile, owned boxes list extracted from earlier: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/gO3io/?raw=true

asciilifeform: fwiw i still don't grasp what trinque was disagreeing with phf about.

asciilifeform: in other lulz - https://archive.is/us9d8 -- purportedly - 'Decrypted content of eqgrp-auction-file.tar.xz' , 'Passphrase: CrDj"(;Va.*NdlnzB9M?@K2)#>deB7mN'

asciilifeform: meanwhile, elsewhere in the glorious monkey empire, https://archive.is/meEGA : 'A doctor trying to return home to his patients was dragged by his hands from an overbooked United Airlines (UAL.N) flight... Video of the incident posted to Twitter account @Tyler_Bridges shows three security officers huddling over the seated passenger, who appears to be an older Asian man, before dragging him on the floor.'

asciilifeform: After calling police, two officers took away the bars and gave them a receipt. ... A Northamptonshire Police spokesman said they could not comment “for operational reasons”.'

asciilifeform: in other lulz : https://archive.is/orEsB : 'Nick Mead, 55, discovered the five gold bars in the Russian T54/69 while restoring it to add to his collection of 150 military vehicles. He and mechanic Todd Chamberlain were filming themselves prising open the diesel tank in case they found munitions and needed to show it to bomb disposal crews. ... Instead, they pulled out the bars, weighing up to 12lb — 5kg — apiece.' and, wtf, '...

asciilifeform: and my contention is that 'replacing sql' is guaranteed to fail, the problem it solves is intrinsically braindamaged.

asciilifeform: the things winblows does exceptionally well also ~never come up in discussions by sane folx.

asciilifeform also puzzled

asciilifeform: trinque: this seems tautologically true; it doesn't tell us much

asciilifeform: because the flexibility has a price.

asciilifeform: it won't look like sql.

asciilifeform: if your operation seriously relies on the db, it implements custom db, from scratch, like the hft trading folks do. ☟︎

asciilifeform: it is genuinely the worst possible argument in support of anything.

asciilifeform: but sure, sql is 'industry standard'. so is -- winblows.

asciilifeform: probably not.

asciilifeform: hey, trinque asked!111

asciilifeform: and the year before that -- somebody who used... hypercard

asciilifeform: trinque: i linked to an auto parts shop that does accounting on commodore64 last year...

asciilifeform: *brake

asciilifeform: imho life is too short to use it to study such a thing.

asciilifeform: sql is a car with a gas and break pedal for each wheel. ☟︎

asciilifeform: as it is, sql db is a very effectively opaque black box, full of liquishit, that reliably generates full employment for millions of 'perlists' who memorized the trivia.

asciilifeform: 'this is a small boat, friends, please refrain from going in more than 5 at a time' 'we'll ALL go in! you should have BIGGER boat, you dummy!111'

asciilifeform: Framedragger: yes, it is weak! but no, i don't have a five-second fix

asciilifeform: i have actual work to do, and do not have time to babysit the process all day, every day. ☟︎

asciilifeform: it will start loading again for other people when Framedragger stops autowgetting it.

asciilifeform: at any rate, thing loaded here.

asciilifeform: anything with auto-retries.

asciilifeform: all of it

asciilifeform: didn't i ask nicely to quit this ?

asciilifeform: what's the 'consecutive' mean if not hammering.

asciilifeform: didntcha just say 'consecutive 504s'

asciilifeform: Framedragger: you ~could~ stop hammering it

asciilifeform: re lisp state -- not sure this is doable on unix -- how do you dump and restore textual representation of posix threads ? fd's ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( afaik -- mccarthy's lisp -- ~could~ )

asciilifeform: trinque ^ this is both true and imho a serious problem ☟︎

asciilifeform: worx great.

asciilifeform: actually that part creates 0 load, it gets cache ~always

asciilifeform: until rewrite.

asciilifeform: and if folks insist on trying to bring it down, i will ban as much of ipv4 space as i have to. ☟︎

asciilifeform: the site is up trinque

asciilifeform: *fixes

asciilifeform: and of 'full rewrite, regardless of what else it features, will NOT feature sql'

asciilifeform: what part of 'the suggested fixed require full rewrite' is hard to understand ?

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: all of the constructive suggestions thus far ( from trinque et al ) require full rewrite.

asciilifeform: i'm quite certain that it ~could~, trinque . just not at acceptable cost.

asciilifeform: trinque: 'there is a right-also, and asciilifeform is a moron' is not a political statement ?

asciilifeform: as soon as i figure it out -- it's gone.

asciilifeform: phf: i've been searching for how to lose the db, for years now.

asciilifeform: submits, however, can.

asciilifeform: loads per se can't hose it, in theory; there is a cache

asciilifeform: nah that'd be trilema ☟︎

asciilifeform: requests with no serious hope of being serviced.

asciilifeform: Framedragger: they're zombies in the sense that there were a thousand+ of the liquishit processes whereas there never has any business being > 1 or 2.

asciilifeform: they're normal requests.

asciilifeform: i know what the stale queries are, already.

asciilifeform: well, phuctor is back up, until somebody else starts auto-massaging it.

asciilifeform: nope.

asciilifeform: i have 0 idea what this means.

asciilifeform: to the point where restarting the thing doesn't even do anything.

asciilifeform: there's a megatonne of zombie postgres liquishit hanging.

asciilifeform: nope, it isn't.

asciilifeform: also i'm getting 20+ (!) second disk latencies.

asciilifeform: it doesn't.

asciilifeform: Framedragger: 'In sessions connected via a Unix-domain socket, this parameter is ignored and always reads as zero.'

asciilifeform: i'ma ask everybody, nicely, to quit all automated querying of phuctor.

asciilifeform: lol, thousand 'postgres: phuctor phuctor [local] SELECT' processes zombieing ☟︎

asciilifeform: whatever 11isms are properly implemented (with 0 special cases) in 4.9 -- fair game

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: my contention was that it must compile with < 5 .

asciilifeform: e.g., http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1541250 ☝︎