asciilifeform: squirrels, apparently, have RIGHTS!!11!!! here.
asciilifeform: phun phakt: the folx i hired originally to do the pest control, not only insist on 'humane' trap, but lock them for weekend! i asked 'why?' answer 'it's the law'☟︎
asciilifeform: esp. as mine for some reason came without the safety latch ('made in korea!')
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: would it be correct to say that a 'solved' instance of this problem, could, e.g., host wikilix indefinitely ?
asciilifeform: Framedragger: isp who bans, e.g., purple www backgrounds, child fucking, and winblows-95 because HE WANTS TO -- is quite different animal from one who does exactly same, but because ~imposed~ upstream
asciilifeform: they have life cycles, 'fresh, unknown, bulletproof', then the sp4mz0rz, virus artists, flock to it, then it 'has problems', dies. then another elsewhere is born.
asciilifeform: the 'whack-a-mole' is a part of live for folx using 'spam hosting'. and i entirely believe that mircea_popescu knows one that has been in uninterrupted business since '07. but how long do you suppose it would live if you linked to it by name here ?
asciilifeform: decade or so ago i looked into this, and found that their www box lived in.. usa!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: might be interesting to find out where the (hilarious) northkr www is hosted.
asciilifeform: trinque: there is a fair bit of gradation between 'room 101' and harmless annoyance
asciilifeform at one time scouted far and wide for these, with a budget not far off from mircea_popescu's current
asciilifeform: trinque: nope. plenty of quite genuine 'spam isp'. problem is that they fold !
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's argument is not that mircea_popescu's idea is physically impossible, but that it is absent because it is -- afaik -- heavily -ev. and not because 'world is stupid'. take, say, the moving of cocaine. it involves every bit the same types of risks, but cocaine is readily available worldwide. i suspect : partly because it is a standalone physical object -- unlike net connectivity.
asciilifeform: fiatola exposure is an attack surface.
asciilifeform: (they were mentioned in the l0gz several times)
asciilifeform: relatedly, whatever happened to mircea_popescu's harness of N hdds that mysteriously burned in unison
asciilifeform: or lessay whole buncha disk faults, because a 'moderate rebel' 'accidentally' threw a molotov into the dc (where for some reason door was wide open)
asciilifeform: ( other than a pile of fiatola. which in a way is also 'hardware' )
asciilifeform: Framedragger: possibly i misunderstood, and idea is to be strictly a ~broker~, no handling of iron involved
asciilifeform: ( also requires keeping not only own skin, but money , in places reich can't easily get to ; getting hired help who aren't stoolies, also, somewhere; and similar )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's concept would work, but it has 1 serious cost -- it is a 'phd assembly line', in that it -- as i understand -- more or less requires ~being a copy of mircea_popescu~ -- a 'jet-setting' d00d, travelling to orclands, negotiating with local mafias, packing up boxes onto chartered boeings in the night, etc
asciilifeform: or lemme guess, ' asciilifeform imagined it, it never existed, shuddup fool '
asciilifeform: and what to do after the 1st, 2nd, 3rd time that having this relation with $service ends up getting upstream (hardware owner's) iron confiscated/stolen/mysteriously burned ? where do you get new hardware upstream after this ? or does mircea_popescu picture this problem going away when you close your eyes ?
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu sees this as utterly trivial, as suggested here, he could run this service himself (or with 'long hands'), corner the market, supply every spammer on planet3 .
asciilifeform: so imho it is not accurate to say that they have solved same problem.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the idiots handle the enemy in the simplest way -- by dying. 'human fat powered system.'
asciilifeform: they put in boxes, yes. but they do not give arbitrarily stiff finger to arbitrarily aggressive rogue states.
asciilifeform: so no, 'professionals eating' not yet.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu earlier observed that nobody -- anywhere -- is offering this service.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where would you suggest to put it ?
asciilifeform: 'i'ma fall on this grenade' doesn't grow naturally, no.
asciilifeform: iirc this was (at least nominally) his specialty.
asciilifeform: btw whatever happened to the sealand d00d
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: still 0 offers for this ?!
asciilifeform: Framedragger: ru hosting is pretty good save for (2).
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't know for a hard fact, but there was that ukr.
asciilifeform: how many operations can absorb this cost on demand ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as you're well aware, usg has 0 problem confiscating entire dc when it wants. on most of planet.
asciilifeform: if 'best korean' fuhrer had half a brain, this'd be a business model for him.
asciilifeform: it ain't quite like, e.g., buying steel pipe, you can buy from x today and from y tomorrow and meanwhile you have a warehouse of pipe, so no prob.
asciilifeform: eventually expense of repeatedly 'move to new dc' adds up.
asciilifeform: which accesses the net and did ????!???.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform & former assoc. had this problem, laid quite thickly, because they ran (industrially) malware samples.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: and if you read the linked item, 'On Linux, I tested GCC 4.9, 5.4, and 6.3, as well as Clang 3.6, 3.8, and 4.0. None were affected. ' << applies strictly to recent clang, seems.
