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bowjob: guys anyone recognized the s/s
Doffx: I dont think most miner even know what GBT is.
Luke-Jr: apparently they're now centralizing their pool and going stratum-only :/
Luke-Jr: that was the problem all along
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: bitcoind and p2pool can feed you a forked template too
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: could; miners are expected to be smart and detect such things
kakobrekla: Luke-Jr: so the pool can still feed you template from a forked chain?
ThickAsThieves: Luke-Jr, which asic companies are hashing on the side?
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 9612397.38912 based on data since last change | 10025677.4438 based on data for last three days
kakobrekla: so the pool can still feed you template from a forked chain
Doffx: eligius too
mircea_popescu: so basically other than eclipse who exactly even uses gbt ?
Doffx: I thought I remember seeing it way back I am probably wrong mainly because this is the first time I understood what it even meant.
Luke-Jr: not that long lol
Doffx: GBT has been around a long time, even when I started 2 years ago
Doffx: I see that after reading the wiki
Doffx: Because of how fast they getwork I think
Doffx: No Gh, mainly because I know they only really work with Stratum pools
ThickAsThieves: doffx, i assume you eant TH
Doffx: What happens if someone decided to plop 200+ GH worth of Asic on Deepbit
mircea_popescu: ya but there's somesort of conflict or something
Luke-Jr: but rollntime isn't done at bitcoind, it's done at the poolserver
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: they don't have to upgrade to use rollntime
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: BTCGuild *did* lose a bit when they upgraded to 0.8 because the admin wasn't paying attention to what he was doing
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr deepbit doesn't want to upgrade because generally speaking updates are also shit.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: tell Tycho/Deepbit
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: they lost nothing from the split, Gavin gave them what they would have mined
kakobrekla: ah that was split + hack or something
Luke-Jr: no clue why they're all going onto BTCGuild
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: most of the smaller pools support GBT
mircea_popescu: gbt didn't manage to get much traction iirc.
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: not really, just by the big centralized pools
mircea_popescu: anyway, stratum seems pretty much the standard.
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: they apparently WANT centralization
kakobrekla: its newer than getwork
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: BTCGuild/slush made their own protocol which un-solved the problem
kakobrekla: im sure the reason btcguild is trying to get rid of miners is because its all safe and good
Doffx: I haven’t seen anything about this new protocol, is there a post about it someplace?
Luke-Jr: putting it back with the miners
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: by taking the blind control away from pools
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: I intentionally designed the new protocol so that it SOLVED the pooled mining centralization problem
mircea_popescu: what's luke to do with that ?!
Doffx: p2pool seemed to be disliked by a lot of the developer types for some reason
kakobrekla: now they are pooling too
kakobrekla: asic would have to run solos
kakobrekla: basically the new protocol from Luke-Jr fucked it all up
Doffx: err slightly more, my reason was well.. I am greedy to a point?
Doffx: I used it but it felt like I was losing BTC doing so, there were so many other options that made me slight more
mircea_popescu: Doffx i wonder why that is.
kakobrekla: you need to spread the points
kakobrekla: cause a ton of people wouldnt mine under solo conditions
mircea_popescu: that said obviously they're unavoidable.
mircea_popescu: i don't like pools because basically they fuck up the entire point of mining
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu why the hate
Doffx: I dont care what it looks like, I just want TH speed
ThickAsThieves: kako, if you make an ltc pool i'd move there :)
kakobrekla: miners are becoming the apple idiots
mircea_popescu: i hope all pools go bankrupt tbh
Doffx: They would also need to offer something new and exciting to get people to move
Doffx: That would be tough to do kakobrekla, this community trusts no one and rightfully so not to mention all the pools seem to go bankrupt
kakobrekla: i cant belive im saying this but theres space for new pools
mod6: oh i guess this graph in thumbnail form looked like a lot closer to 50%: http://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=24hrs
mod6: i'm looking at a near ~35% jump in difficulty in around the 23rd of March (if im looking at it correctly): http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-10k.png
mod6: this one makes me really think hard: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-ever.png
mod6: oh hai! well looks like there was this: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
MJR_: do you know the largest diff jump that has happened so far this year?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 126.30002, Best ask: 126.49000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18998, Last trade: 126.30001, 24 hour volume: 65465.64089159, 24 hour low: 115.20000, 24 hour high: 127.00000, 24 hour vwap: 122.30066
mod6: haha jeeze. it makes my eyes bleed some of the stuff i read on there on a daily basis.
mircea_popescu: punkman the average scam pays between 1/3 and 1/2 of all net revenuye for advertising
punkman: wonder how much BFL is payinf for all their ads, just saw this on adwords: http://www.butterflylabs.com/landing/landing-aw.php
TheMonarchTx: so once the bubble popped it's not surprising that the new accounts don't result in increased volume
TheMonarchTx: all the new accounts were for speculation
kakobrekla: the line is getting longer but the news are calming, are they de-amling users?
pgp: true, but with so many new accounts at gox, seems very light to me...
kakobrekla: vol is inline with what it was before the pop or poop, whatever you wanna call it
pgp: yep... so I would be hesitate to call "all clear" on price stability...
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.00003, Best ask: 125.09999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09996, Last trade: 125.00003, 24 hour volume: 64124.31164192, 24 hour low: 115.20000, 24 hour high: 126.60000, 24 hour vwap: 122.08643
kakobrekla: is more stable than gold
Namworld: Well as much as being at that price for about 2 days can be called stability
mircea_popescu: heh this stability.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.31057, Best ask: 125.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.68942, Last trade: 126.00001, 24 hour volume: 66759.35870641, 24 hour low: 115.20000, 24 hour high: 126.60000, 24 hour vwap: 122.13301
joecool: truffles: nah it's more like a box truck backing up repeatedly into you
orkaa: in slovenia we elected the first black mayor ever
mircea_popescu: ;;rate dooglus 2 Does useful things.
joecool: but this is the US, black people in canada are pretty rare and i've never seen a giant one there
joecool: yeah never did that, its bad enough being at a bar and having a giant black ass jackhammer you in the crotch
mircea_popescu: i imagine they get a pretty sweet self confidence boost by visiting lol
mircea_popescu: in general actually black people are rare enough that banging a black chick is a sort of personal trophy for any male
mircea_popescu: joecool there's a bunch of peeps from africa come to study, there's also a strong gypsy minority.
MJR_: i think they play basketball for the local team...that is not a joke
joecool: kakobrekla: go hardcore, do lines of different colored toner
joecool: better to smoke than work in office
joecool: you think that's a fresh smell? that's the toner permeating your lung tissue
orkaa: mircea_popescu, at least he'd be fair, everyone gets the same deal
kakobrekla: just print a new lung whats the big deal
orkaa: or we live in the right country
orkaa: so we either get insanely rich by then
orkaa: internet won't be able to cure our cancer when we're 70
mircea_popescu: orkaa americans are racist in their own peculiar ways.
MJR_: we aren't all american citizens here...(i am, not that it matters)