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mircea_popescu: it's anotehr thing to "shit, this train's going the wrong way"
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to "wouldn't it be nice..."/
asciilifeform: he's not the 1st, nor last, to admit to wishing for a pre-1993 net
mircea_popescu: the fact that he wants, i find intrinsically retarded.
asciilifeform: what , in the abstract, does he want, that mircea_popescu finds intrinsically retarded ?
mircea_popescu: and therein is the problem entire : he wants, and thereby he can never escape the inca. let him want somewhere else, he's soiling my floors.
asciilifeform: well he wants , roughly, the effect ( 'get my 1972 academy of sciences again' or the like) but has no possibly correct priors on which to work. hence shaman's radio.
mircea_popescu: i'll tell you where : bitch only "learned" it to protect something else thereby.
mircea_popescu: but as it is, the moment the idiocy he is protecting goes away, so goes away his perceived need for whatever "he got right" and there you sit, wondering, "hey, i taught you this a year ago, where did it go ?!?!"
mircea_popescu: and so this is the deep root of what i mean when i say "he didn't get anything right" : the ~only reason~ he included $republican-item in his soup is to support some other batshit insanity ; it's not a root but a frill for him -- as proven by the fact that were it root, it'd have rid him of the batshit he aims to hang on it.
mircea_popescu: the more they spend "thinking", the more they'll have to spend thinking to get rid of the elaborate elucubrations they came up with ; and not even linearly "the more", i'm affraid it's exponential.
mircea_popescu: these processes both directly mimic the evolution of software in empire and republic ; and directly illustrate the problem : aging is a net negative for they outside the republic. it ~decreases~ their value, monotonically, irrespective of any other considerations.
mircea_popescu: aging in the republic, contrarywise, is the process whereby the cardinal of L and the length of some Ts shrinks, so as to remove as many Ts and T elements as possible.
mircea_popescu: aging in the wild, in this model, is the process whereby the cardinal of L and the length of individual Ts in that L grows, so as to avoid removing any of the initial Ts.
mircea_popescu: idiot (I) consists of ordered list (L) of statement trees (Ti). each individual statement in each tree is either true or false ; relatedly to this, every tree is either solid or nonsense.
mircea_popescu: but let's model this properly, for the sake of record :
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, that matter is extremely hard to discern.
mircea_popescu: grudgingly including bits that he doesn't want to exist.
mircea_popescu: he's just fuzzing the field, is all.
mircea_popescu: because this is how they age -- they become ever more elaborate in their idiocy. THIS is the deep meaning of "Interesting to see the bits he gets 'right' , such as no anonymity, but then to see him see him turn around and" : he didn't get anything right.
asciilifeform: however asciilifeform's measured suspicion is that the hypothetical clueful reverser is moar likely to resemble trinque's d00d than a 20 y.o. douchebag .
mircea_popescu: entirely conceivable. who's to know the alternative futures. but the point stands -- the only thing i see when i see one of these old nothings is, "here's a hole you can pour sweat into forever"
asciilifeform: quite likely that he did.
mircea_popescu: to put it another way : how about you prove to me that trinque didn't SAVE US a large pile of value by getting us rid of "reverse engineer" ?
asciilifeform: potentially it's a 1950s 17 y.o., those can possibly work with.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck am i to do with a "us academic", ie, a 12 yo captive in a 60yo's body ?
mircea_popescu: in my (admittedly, extremely extensive) experience, the only predictor of success is age. 20yo "domme" or "brat" or whatever can make perfectly fine slavegirl and thereby exist and matter. 30yo "submissive", can't.
mircea_popescu: i've yet to see this.
asciilifeform: granted it aint trivial
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've found that some septagenarian u.s. academics are moar shaman than smith, do have some measure of native intellect that can be knocked out , potentially, of its inca track
mircea_popescu: this "ima write poems in chuchka because russian too hard to learn" sorta bs really gets my goat.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, was talking re dutch/locklin/whatever horde of these literate imbeciles.
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to shaman on deserted island / 5k years ago. it's another thing to moron (literally, the john smith followers, the original morons) in 1910.
asciilifeform: who knows, maybe guestop is a master burglar , can go and pinch for us that privkey
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, lobbes you're more patient than me. the only way i can interpret the sort of behaviour is in the bdsm terminology, as brats. and i can't fucking stand brats, not to mention they're the essential pinnacle of idiocy, "i know it dun work but it's more important that it's my dumb idea than that it works".
asciilifeform: lol i mean d00d was able to log in, knows how to set nick!11 must know ~something~..
asciilifeform: ( and i suspect that there won't be much said re cr50 for a while, currently it is in dead waters )
asciilifeform: 'just lurking' isn't likely to do much for you, threads have beginnings, and measure in months, years.
asciilifeform: guestop: you will probably want to read the chan log, http://btcbase.org/log/ , and make use of the search box, chances are that your q has been answered in the past week
asciilifeform: guestop: who are you , and what brings you to #trilema ?
asciilifeform: 'homo picketfenceicus' or how did mircea_popescu describe these.
asciilifeform: dutch had not 1 but 2 successful, by internal measures, careers in the belly of the inca ( prof. of geology in 20th c usa , and sgt in army ) , manages to combine cult of centrally-administered 'ordnung' and lip service to 'private property' without any apparent mental friction
asciilifeform: e.g. the alchemists, also got quite a few points 'right'.
lobbes: Interesting to see the bits he gets 'right' , such as no anonymity, but then to see him see him turn around and say essentially "horde of sybils are okay, as long as each sybil pays subscription fee of $100"
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform is an entomological connoisseur of 'clever fella tries to invent tmsr but fails on account of defective priors' artifacts. it's sorta like watching intelligent shaman try to build radio using voodoo doll action-at-a-distance, what to expect, fella never heard of electric fields , 'work with what i have!' )
asciilifeform: ( tldr -- d00d tries, naturally fails, to invent the republic )
Mocky: trinque, this is the original post, correct? http://trinque.org/2017/12/30/wip-cuntoo-installer/
trinque: I will update my original post with the former soon as I'm able, maybe tonight. that won't be "cuntoo", but it'll be enough to get assistance from other folks such as yourself to bring it to completion
trinque: Mocky: the item from my original post builds again. I've yet to finish gathering everything required by the base system into a genesis vpatch, but that's next in the process. among them, I need to bring in ave1's gcc.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-07 02:21 trinque: Mocky: I'll have something for you to try out in a few days, if you like.
Mocky: trinque, how goes this? I'm quite eager >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-07#1821099 ☝︎
mod6: my biz cards are the same way; 0x00ff00 & 0x000000 with courier new
mod6: mircea_popescu: haha, yeah, i've been using it for quite a long time.
mod6: lobbes: heey! thanks. ya, looks pretty good on there.
lobbes: As for signature banners, seems like they have odd rules re: those; I think images aren't even allowed in sigs for $reasons
mircea_popescu: mod6, totally got a green on black fetish, it's clear by now
lobbes: mod6: ah perfect! Worx and looks great (the green-on-black catches the eye well imo) >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4453723.0
BingoBoingo: mod6: Picked one up this morning. Going to get it set up today.
BingoBoingo: Battery did not swell, but microusb charger melted to phone's microusb port
BingoBoingo: Apparently orc communication device tried to kill me in my sleep last night
BingoBoingo: Alive, pictures coming to the blog today
asciilifeform: supposedly they have schools over there, and teach'em
asciilifeform: unassednick: so let's see them come here.
unassednick: outside of chinese great firewall, delusionally, yet i somehow feel they are capable in general
unassednick: no but i read a group of chinese people who know where the real internet is
asciilifeform: ( i dun have high hopes for 'word spreadings' but it is conceivable that somebody, somewhere, is 1) qualified to participate 2) will pull head out of arse for long enuff to actually do it )
mircea_popescu: also, register a key already, i'll rate you, then you can self voice.
mircea_popescu: |\n, could you get a nick that's not an absolute pain in the ass to type ?
|\n: asciilifeform, i feel guilty for getting voiced manually without bringing 0days lol but should i attempt to spread the word across chinese people as well?
mod6: if so, throw me a sample and maybe I can make one of those too.
mod6: hey lobbes, does tardstalk still let you put a banner or skinny banner in your footer part or whatever (I feel like that used to be a thing?)
mircea_popescu: lol mod6 finds a new life as a gfx designer for the web
lobbes: Word. No rush at all. Im in the $saltmines anyways atm
lobbes: I like how yours communicate all the selling points in a small space
mod6: I can probably come up with something here today, sure.
lobbes: Yes plox. If yer too busy I can probably do it, but consistency in branding etc.
mod6: you want something that looks like the others in that size?
mod6: ok that beachdick image is 120 x 70 px
mircea_popescu: beachdick ?! oh i gotta see this thing
mod6: i'll figure something out that works better.
lobbes: Hey mod6, not urgent, but could you create a pizarro banner in an avatar ratio? As much as I like the beachdick avatar I made, it doesn't communicate 'ISP' very well. Here's the size it'd need to be >> https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_138230.png
mod6: oh yeah, that's not the thing. I need to maybe tweek the setup here when I get a few minutes.
mod6: sometimes i lose track of where I'm at.
asciilifeform: sorta why folx get separate keyboard, cabling, etc for the missile control console. so not to fughet.
douchebag: dissociative thinking? Where's the ketamine at
mircea_popescu: "nobody would hold this ode to stalin against me, it's fashionable!"
mircea_popescu: magic of disassociative thinking.
asciilifeform: but if this werent sad enuff : guess what :
lobbesbot: mod6: Sent 47 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> http://pizarroisp.net/pizarro-hosting-rate-sheet/ << plox to make FUCKGOATS text link to subj
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell mod6 http://pizarroisp.net/pizarro-hosting-rate-sheet/ << plox to make FUCKGOATS text link to subj
asciilifeform: evidently the hell errybody's dead 1999 hdd , went to.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 15:53 asciilifeform: heads, leucrota, manticores, vultures, paranders, weasels, dragons, hoopoes, owls, basilisks, hypnales, presters, spectafici, scorpions, saurians, whales, scitales, amphisbenae, iaculi, dipsases, green lizards, pilot fish, octopi, morays, and sea turtles.' -- eco's 'name of the rose'
asciilifeform: 'community' link goes to some heathen chat thing, dunwork here
asciilifeform: 0 idea where the thing was born or why.
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine why anyone thinks this belongs in a website. it's evidently a tarball.
asciilifeform: ( i can't think of much use for most of the artifacts, or would mirror )
mircea_popescu: http://the-eye.eu/public/Images/Russian%20Propaganda/Le_002.jpg >> beautiful xreferencing, too. five letter numeric filenames ftw!
asciilifeform: evidently they like mirrors.
asciilifeform: the 'wget -m -np -c --no-check-certificate -R "index.html*" "https://the-eye.eu/public/"' listed at the bottom of all pgs, is classy touch imho.