tmsr - Search: i

91900+ entries in 0.636s

asciilifeform: i tried many times, these games, and the lack of keyboard and mouse ruins it all

asciilifeform: i'm not exactly outside the demo, but still dun see..

asciilifeform: i dun see the fun there.

asciilifeform: at any rate, i expect 'must evaluate expression with unknowns to learn how much shitcoin you really have' will one day appear.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally, when digging into eth etc in light of 'turing-complete!111 programmable!1111' scamatronics, i was somewhat surprised that they did not add the flourish of 'algebraic coin'

a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 06:48 mats: i expect coalition forces to succeed

BingoBoingo: I'm not sure they *need* the Levant if they have France ☟︎

BingoBoingo: Framedragger: When I find one that seems to have this it draws the not unimportant criticism that it requires the whole Plan 9 userspace

jurov: one step at a time, i guess

Framedragger: i guess the only way to convince people would be to present a working PoC with working spam mitigation, hm.

Framedragger: i'm amused that it's hard to find something like this, i.e. static generator _and_ a comment handler component

Framedragger: (maybe i just described a spec that i should one day implement, heh)

a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 18:53 phf: trinque: i suggested one, ascii couldn't get past first line

shinohai: here i thought i was the only person with insomnia in trilema

mats: i expect coalition forces to succeed ☟︎

mats: i look forward to reading about the ensuing power struggle after IS gets squashed

mircea_popescu: i actually lived there!

BingoBoingo: Also related church bsns https://i.imgur.com/YIl9HWk.jpg

BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/ftEoWvp.jpg

mircea_popescu: soviets fell because ran out of cars. i was there when they did. i will be there when these re-soviets will.

BingoBoingo: Well, https://i.imgur.com/jI5ccLN.jpg for example

trinque: I see a european ass in the air and a brown guy having the time of his life

BingoBoingo: So even though the weather has been objectively worse here this week than last, I have observed a sharp increase in the number of transmayos walking and biking outside while glued to their smartphones.

a111: Logged on 2016-07-14 02:37 mod6: As far as the "V Mirror" thing, that I know alf hates, I move forward on the basis that one doesn't have to use it, even though it is there. This may not be ideal, but it's bridge between both "easy" and "manual"

mod6: <shinohai> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-14#1502771 <<< remember i told you i did a test rum where i replaced V's mirror w/ mlocalhost deps and it still builds as expected. << oh yeah, forgot about that! ☝︎

asciilifeform: but i was speaking of the disorganization/aimlessness/anomie

asciilifeform: precisely, i wouldn't expect.

mircea_popescu: and yes, i readily agree with you and in effigy with "sensible people" of a generation that died with chet - that all this is barbaric nonsense, and wtf is wrong with people!

mircea_popescu: i can't even say i don't sympathise with the hipsters.

a111: Logged on 2016-07-14 19:24 asciilifeform: jurov: i am failing to discern what the protest was against

Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu: I'm not pleading ignorance

mircea_popescu: now stfu before i feel the need to also silence your dumb ass.

mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic you can plead ignorance all you want. lalala check me out, i'm going to pretend like this doesn't exist and here's tardstalk, seriously. then if you get whacked for it play the victim ? get fucked already, this isn't how it's played.

Apocalyptic: I haven't been there in ages, most posts are pure non-sense to increase post counts for signature campaigns

Apocalyptic: but hey it was been educational, at least I know I won't ever be going there to get work done

Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu: hey, indeed I tremendously overestimated tardstalk

a111: Logged on 2016-07-14 17:53 Apocalyptic: asciilifeform: well ok I may have underestimated the time

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-14#1502931 << if in the future you manage to not overestimate tardstalk.org i'll be ever so grateful to you. ☝︎

asciilifeform: jurov: i am failing to discern what the protest was against ☟︎

Apocalyptic: asciilifeform: I figured

Apocalyptic: for the lulz, the Angell guy that signed up sent me, I kid you not, a copy/pasted code of a public github repo which consisted of a SAT-solver that doesn't even build

Apocalyptic: as for try it yourself, I believe my time is better spent elsewhere

Apocalyptic: asciilifeform: actually reading the satcoin link you provided I don't think it's a worthy endeavour to explore anymore

Apocalyptic: and i'm comparing to a single iteration of sha256()... so less moving parts

trinque: ben_vulpes: yeh I want to make it tidy enough to share

ben_vulpes: trinque: no rush, i've got other irons in the fire that still need pounding.

trinque: ben_vulpes: yeah, I'll get you bot source soon

Apocalyptic: from the satcoin pape: "The implementation of the above program generates a large CNF formula with about 250'000 variables and 850'000 clauses." I wonder how much lower these numbers would be for a single iteration of sha256

Apocalyptic: I should maybe mention that I actually mailed these scientists, and they replied!

Apocalyptic: so I guess they had something running and didn't pull them out of their ass

Apocalyptic: see the paragraph I'm referring to, and they even posted benchmark results as graph for collision resistance and preimage problems

jurov: which is exactly the task what you want to be doen for $100, I understand?

Apocalyptic: jurov: the one I linked in that post ? yes

Apocalyptic: asciilifeform: I assure you I don't plan to apply this to bitcoin mining, even though It did cross my mind to just try how it would fare in comparison

Apocalyptic: jurov: well i'm all ears as to why it isn't

asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: i assume you read the original 'satcoin' paper ?

Apocalyptic: I just want the problem as a CNF file

Apocalyptic: asciilifeform: I don't want a solver

Apocalyptic: asciilifeform: well ok I may have underestimated the time ☟︎

jurov: i'm wondering how this is ever a $100 project, too

ben_vulpes: i probably have it on disk somewhere

asciilifeform: but i have nfi how many bugs ago it was.

trinque: old anyway, I'll let ya know when, and it'll be in the form of a signed vpatch

trinque: er actually I posted an older version at some point didn't I?

trinque: lemme work on cleaving the commands from the botstuff and then I can give ya the sauce if you want it

trilema-webchat: my client #17 says : "i am the real dao attacker"

mircea_popescu: not that i've seen.

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I've never used it, but ok

Framedragger: ah, actually freenode blocks connection eventually anyway since tor node in dnsbl and whatnot, so that's not a good argument anyway i guess

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: there's no captcha for the kiwiirc webchat thing only if your ip request is quite unique etc. if you e.g. go from tor (*ducks*) then you get presented with the lovely cloudflare captcha where you have to solve shit for multiple times until you pass. but at least no default captcha i guess

shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-14#1502771 <<< remember i told you i did a test rum where i replaced V's mirror w/ my localhost deps and it still builds as expected. ☝︎

shinohai: ;;later tell http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-14#1502771 <<< remember i told you i did a test rum where i replaced V's mirror w/ my localhost deps and it still builds as expected. ☝︎

trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-14#1502702 << only as imposed by resource constraints. If the deps don't make it through the process I'll be at the keyboard tomorrow and will help make it happen. ☝︎

mod6: weird. i'll have to look into that.

mod6: Anyway, this is great! I aught to write this up and put this into the ticket notes.

mod6: oh thats right, it just expected you to do this manually. which i automated.

asciilifeform: i never had auto-loader of anything iirc.

mod6: or rotor? i'd have to look.

mod6: asciilifeform: i believe that perhaps your stator script did something of the like.

asciilifeform: also i have this notion that we already had this, in some draft version, and i lost it.

mod6: So i feel like it's one or the other. People need a way to press one button and build -- not everyone is clued.

mod6: I tend to agree with you -- but i believe that the entire thing reduces to a "downloader script" outside of V if I remove the mirrors part.

asciilifeform: there is a reason i dun like it

mod6: As far as the "V Mirror" thing, that I know alf hates, I move forward on the basis that one doesn't have to use it, even though it is there. This may not be ideal, but it's bridge between both "easy" and "manual" ☟︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: possibly even deedbotted - though i have not been able to turn up the link

asciilifeform: pretty sure i signed a set of rotor dep hashes a while back.

mod6: I do tend to favor that, as opposed to signing my own death warrant.

mircea_popescu: that's why i want them stored in deedbot and sealed up.

mod6: mechanically checked and verified, but something i wrestle with none the less.

mod6: i can see this both ways too. i still wrestle with the whole "V Mirror" thing too.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-14#1502694 << i'd make the downloader, if there must be one, a separate script. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i was making a point omaigerd.

mod6: I tend to agree, overall though. It should belong with trb.

a111: Logged on 2016-07-14 02:06 mircea_popescu: (i'm not saying you're making a mess, i'm just saying - we're stuck with all this grandfathered in bullshit, such as boost, openssh, who the fuck knows what else even. qt ffs.)

mod6: I started there for sure. Once I actually did this, it works, no problem with that. Was just trying to think, "what will the tree look like in 10 years, 20 years?"

mod6: this really leaves one last question that has to be thought through before we move on; Do we place the makefiles into trb's tree, or do we place them in their own tree? I've thought about this quite a bit. And there are tradeoffs to both.

mod6: building up tons of technical debt that I (or someone) has to fix eventually anyway.

mod6: which isn't a bad thing; i'd rather do it slow & careful, than fast and reckless.